Marvel Cinematic Universe

Oh that is fucked up.

While Will Friedle, Rider Strong and Joanna Kerns expressed regret over having written their letters of support, James Marsden and the others so far are in No Comment mode.

Wow. Okay, never mind what I posted before about Marsden. I mistakenly thought what was going on was some sort of scheduling conflict with some new show he was being in or something.

Edited by TrashJack on Mar 26th 2024 at 10:20:54 AM

Oof.

He really should say something. Otherwise, people are gonna talk.

Unless he's got something he doesn't want to admit.

A large number of people on his Instagram are basically saying they will not see Sonic 3, or any other project he's involved with, many even calling for him to be recast in Sonic 3.

It's like Darkseid, over in DC. Most series don't do it more than once. But every continuity feels the need to do it at least once, even make a big point of having it take over the story, and it's so ubiquitous that I'd agree we don't need it another time.

Spidey's got tons - TONS - of amazing villains, arc villains, big bads, etc. We can give someone who isn't Venom time to shine. Espeically given the MCU's propensity for improving stories and characters who had potential but didn't quite land int he comics. I'd love to see an MCU take on the Jackal.

That said, anyone except Morlun. No.

So what you're saying is this is the perfect time for the Hypno-Hustler to finally be the Big Bad of a Spider-Man movie.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Mar 26th 2024 at 12:00:31 PM

I think Sony already beat Marvel Studios to it.

TBF, most if not all of the more famous Spidey rogues have had their time to shine in non comics media. Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Vulture, the Lizard, Mysterio, Sandman, Electro, Kraven, Venom...they've all been featured at least once in the various movies, videogames, tv shows, etc.

We haven't had Kraven in a film yet. We were going to, but then they replaced him with several villains we'd already seen.

I've always thought if you were going to modify Spider-Island into something as short as an hour and a half or so, Kraven might be a good villain for that sort of thing.

Kraven did at least show up in Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

...Now that I think about it I don't think we've seen the original Mac Gargan Scorpion in most non-comics media yet.

Edited by M84 on Mar 27th 2024 at 12:13:06 AM

I guess you're Kraving, the Kraven movie?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the most interesting thing they could do with the Black Suit storyline is have it go in a different direction. With this Peter Parker specifically, I could see a scenario where Peter makes peace with the symbiote the same way Ghost Spider does in the comics. Itd be a new take on the premise that could have sudden consequences in any given sequel.

Besides, the main reason the Black Suit doesn't stick around in the comics — besides Spidey's original look being too iconic — is that it's pretty much a Storybreaker Power that breaks the Status Quo Is God in comics. It's noted at least once that the Venom!Spidey is much stronger than normal Venom!Eddie Brock since Eddie's just a regular guy empowered by the symbiote. Venom!Spidey otoh is someone who is already superhuman getting another power boost.

This isn't the kind of thing that's a problem for a movie.

Edited by M84 on Mar 28th 2024 at 3:53:26 AM

Why are people saying that Peltz wants to fire Feige is said this: "Peltz, asked during the FT interview if Feige should be removed as president of Marvel Studios, replied, “I’m not ready to say that, but I question his record.”"

Peltz also isn't going to fire Iger. Peltz's goal right now is three seats on the board. I don't know how many seats on the table. Iger has also been signalling that he wants less messaging. So that shows an attempt to appease Peltz or shareholders open to Peltz's argument.

Iger seems to be promoting the idea that a lack of executive oversight and quality control is the problem.

What do you think he meant by "I question his record"? It's easy to read between the lines.

Also, if that's not what he meant, he would just have said no.

I think he is putting pressure on Feige to do a better job.

As a shareholder Peltz is in a way Feige's boss, but also stands to gain a lot of money if Disney does better. He is a activist investor. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/activist-investor.asp Not a political activist.

I don't think it is fair to interpret his words in the worst possible way.

There is a question of whether or not he gets a board seat at all, that he unseats Iger or becomes CEO himself is even more unlikely.

I don't think he will succeed, because his arguments seem to be rehashing the same arguments Perlmutter had about Black Panther and Captain Marvel. The first two films were successful. Since Endgame the MCU has more focused on female representation than racial representation. Really the problems have more to do with writing.

There was a time when everyone thought that Feige was a genius, and now that is in question.

Edited by ry4n on Mar 27th 2024 at 2:37:17 AM

It is totally fair to think his words mean he wants Feige gone.

I know he's already been set up as Scorpian, but Michael Mando would make a fantastic Kraven, if he really channelled that Vaas energy. It would feel very Kraven, while also being a bit different.

They really gotta bring Mando back for a full villain role.

Scorpion would be an interesting choice, especially considering he’s specifically designed to kill Spider Man.

And this Spider is low on resources.

A sort of superhero thriller (sort of like Madame Web but better, though I haven't actually seen that so it's not fair for me to judge) where Spidey, forgotten by the rest of the world and low on resources, has to survive against villains pursuing him would be great. The scorpion especially would create good tension as his tail could appear from nowhere to attack Parker.

In general, now that we're in a time where Jameson is slandering Spider-Man and nobody knows anymore that he's just a regular kid which would've given people some restraint in their hate, this would be a great time for Scorpion or Smythe and the Spider-Slayers or any of the other villains who were made to hunt down Spidey specifically.

I could totally buy this Jameson bankrolling Scorpion to attack Spidey in a way I couldn't see most other modern depictions of the character doing it. Heck, I could see this Jameson not even regretting it. MCU Jameson's among the more evil versions of the character.

Plus, he's also allied with Perlmutter, who explicitly wants Feige fired.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 27th 2024 at 9:05:13 AM

And the only reason Perlmutter wants Feige fired is because he wants revenge for losing his job. There's nothing being said in good faith here.

Peltz' main focal point in his comments is that Feige made films about women and African Americans. If his goal was to put pressure on Feige to do a better job, he would have focused on the oversaturation happening with the Disney Plus shows, the massive reshoots happening constantly, or the poor marketing. Not the diverse casts. He is very much a political statement. Like I can't look at that plus his relationship with Perlmutter and not think that his goal is to get Feige fired.

Moving on. For a Spider-Man villain I would love to see make it to the big screen, it has to be the Beetle and Tombstone.

Edited by Bullman on Mar 27th 2024 at 11:13:10 AM