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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#123001: Nov 24th 2020 at 7:59:20 AM

I'm now picturing the whole thing being done with with puppets like Thunderbirds

New theme music also a box
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#123002: Nov 24th 2020 at 9:22:43 AM

Huh. For some reason, until now I always thought the Hawkeye series was going to be animated.

TBH, it should be. I would gladly pay to see a Spider-Verse style Hawkeye series translating the unique quirks of David Aja and Annie Wu’s art.

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#123003: Nov 24th 2020 at 9:47:33 AM

Into the Spider-Verse really has spoiled us on most other superhero media, hasn't it.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#123004: Nov 24th 2020 at 9:48:44 AM

At the very least, there is a high bar to clear in animated movies.

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#123006: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:09:55 AM

Indeed, Into the Spiderverse not only brought imho the best Miles Morales and the best Peter (B.) Parker on all media, with PS 4 Spiderman having the second best.

And is no coincidence that both best Spidermans turn to be adults with a long track in heroing.

Wonder when Marvel will learn and let Morales be the kid hero instead of rebooting Peter again in high school.

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#123007: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:14:16 AM

I got to admit while I think Spiderverse is a better movie, I prefer the MCU Peter to Spiderverse's Peter B. But that's more do to personal preference. I prefer High School Peter, and seeing him grow over time, to already established. Again that's mostly just a personal preference.

Edited by Bullman on Nov 24th 2020 at 12:20:46 PM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#123008: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:21:20 AM

If only they'd ever finally cast an actual high-schooler grin

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#123009: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:24:05 AM

At the very least I’d like for them to stop forcing Peter into teams in his cartoons.

I think the current cartoon has probably the worst Miles because there’s effectively no difference between him and Peter.

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#123010: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:25:10 AM

I was maybe speaking in hyperbole; I know that lots of other comic book adaptations and stuff are each doing their own thing with their own settings and casts of characters and all that so there's a limit to how much I pit one against another. Also like what you like and all that.

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#123011: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:48:37 AM

[up][up] He also has the worst alias: "Spy-D."

I mean... just...

I get that people don't want him to just be "the second Spider-Man," but... you could actually put some effort into it.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#123012: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:52:13 AM

Over thousands of different types of spiders & they couldn’t find a decent name.

I mean for Gods sake just call him Tarantula. It’s right there.

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#123013: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:55:03 AM

The best I've heard came from, surprisingly, Ultimate Spider-Man. "Kid Arachnid," I think it was. Granted, that's still not great, but I will take literally almost anything over that other one.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123014: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:57:12 AM

Whenever you take over an established IP, there’s a feeling out process. Back in the day they would probably do a contest asking people to send in names and then a poll at the end. You couldn’t do that nowadays.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#123015: Nov 24th 2020 at 11:06:02 AM

Or go with a similar theme as Gwen with Ghost Spider.

Like I know is obvious and maybe has some unfortunate implications?, but Black Spider sound good to me. Then again english is not my first lenguage so it doesn't sound that bad to me.

Ironically, with his invisibility powers, Ghost Spider would be a good name to him. Maybe Shadow Spider? Nah, doesn't roll as good in the tongue and sounds to edgy and tryhard.

Edited by eligram on Nov 24th 2020 at 3:31:41 PM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#123016: Nov 24th 2020 at 11:13:26 AM

Miles' string of bad names reminds me of Tim Drake and how he couldn't get a good superhero name once he stopped being a Robin.

As for Peter, the ideal thing is for him to grow from being a high schooler, but that tends not to happen in media, so people are fine with him just starting as an adult. He was supposed to graduate and leave for college at some point on Spectacular Spider-Man, but that got cancelled before he could.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#123017: Nov 24th 2020 at 12:27:10 PM

And with the arrival of the Honest Trailers for New Mutants.

That is officially it for the Foxmen.

What started out as the premiere superhero franchise that help start it all, dies with a fucking whimper and considered a joke.

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#123018: Nov 24th 2020 at 12:41:01 PM

Like I know is obvious and maybe has some unfortunate implications?, but Black Spider sound good to me. Then again english is not my first lenguage so it doesn't sound that bad to me.

Think DC already have a Black Spider which probably puts the kibosh to that. Kid Arachnid is not bad, but I always just think of him as Miles which says a lot about his codenames...

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#123019: Nov 24th 2020 at 12:52:50 PM

There's a gazillion different spiders to name oneself after.

Blue Fang. Huntsman. Wolf Spider. Harvestman (technically not a spider but still an arachnid).

If you really wanted to go all-in on racially awkward superhero names you could go with Brown Recluse.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#123020: Nov 24th 2020 at 12:54:03 PM

[up][up][up] Speaking of The New Mutants has an audio commentary that's less about the movie and more about Josh Boone gushing about New Mutants artist Bill Sienkiewicz.

Apparently, Sienkiewicz helped make an animated opening for the movie that didn't show up for some dumb reason...

Stupid subpar movie robbing us of ATJ becoming MCU!Magik.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 24th 2020 at 12:55:26 PM

AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#123021: Nov 24th 2020 at 1:06:25 PM

Is anyone using the Scarlet Spider identity nowadays? That's a kickass name, just put Miles in a solid red costume and call him that, even though his standard suit is nifty too.

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#123022: Nov 24th 2020 at 1:07:45 PM

Kaine, but dunno what he is up to these days.

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#123023: Nov 24th 2020 at 1:08:05 PM

Being very disgruntled if I know him

Although Ben was using the identity for a while after Clone Conspiracy so dunno

Edited by Bocaj on Nov 24th 2020 at 4:08:31 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#123024: Nov 24th 2020 at 1:12:59 PM

Man Kaine's SS series was dope. One of the first comics I collected actually.

What the fuck happened to Aracelly? There was a big thing building up with her but the series got cancelled before anything could be done with it.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 24th 2020 at 1:13:15 AM

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#123025: Nov 24th 2020 at 1:24:56 PM

[up][up][up][up] Both Ben Reilly and Kaine are using Scarlet Spider.

[up] Yeah, she has pretty much fell into limbo. I think her last appearance was a small appearance in Champions, like one or two pages where she has a small interaction with Viv. I recall Peter David said she was going to show up in Ben Reilly -where Kaine was a supporting character- but she never showed up.


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