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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#91851: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:09:42 PM

I find it amusing how the Black Order looks completely comic accurate.

Look Supergiant is there.

It kinda clashes with the MCU looks like with Star Lord.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 6th 2018 at 10:10:18 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#91852: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:11:24 PM

Oh wow it's been so long, so long.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91853: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:12:44 PM

So, if this is a sequel, are we going to explain how Nick Fury turned black between games?

I mean, he was taken over by nanites in the last one, and everyone knows they can basically do everything, but...

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#91856: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:24:44 PM

[up][up][up]I honestly doubt it'll be addressed at all. Sorta like how the Ant-Man in the first Lego Marvel game was a classic comic-style Hank Pym and then in the sequel he's unceremoniously replaced by MCU Scott Lang because the movie came out between the two games.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#91857: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:28:09 PM

So, if this is a sequel, are we going to explain how Nick Fury turned black between games?

He could just say he was really sick for a while and it affected his skin color. It worked for Birdie in Street Fighter.

Drakon69 The dragon archnerd from greece Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The dragon archnerd
#91858: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:34:53 PM

slimcoder@

he is not the only one look at cap.

they seem to be going for a mix of mcu and comics designs.

DRAGON DRAGON
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#91859: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:41:07 PM

Marvel wasting no time getting those X-Men back.

The Marvel Strike Force game has designs mostly taken from the MCU, and as such its Wolverine wears what is essentially an MCUized take on his costume.

I don't dig it, but I could see something similar being his movie look.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#91860: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:50:42 PM

[up][up] True but it’s like the Guardians had some really bitchin uniforms during the Dn A run.

Seriously the whole blue & red color coordination rocks, & Star Lord rocked a bombing helmet.

I’m rather sad we may never see those designs again because the MCU look has totally dominated the Guardians.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#91861: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:51:43 PM

[up][up]The MCU version would probably streamline it a lot more. That version looks like he's about to go rollerblading.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91862: Dec 6th 2018 at 10:58:57 PM

Rewatching Ant-Man and the Wasp. Still and extremely fun movie.

Also, no offense to Groot, but Cassie Lang is the most adorable character in the entire MCU. Hands down.

[up][up][up]Call me crazy but... I don't hate that. The bright colors actually make the militaristic design really pop.

I think the MCU could use like a mercenary or something with what would be a grounded movie-style design, if not for the fact that it's really colorful. Like, Taskmaster with his comics color scheme.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 6th 2018 at 11:06:04 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#91863: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:04:04 PM

[up]I have to admit I love ant and the wasp because for once Marvel actually see the issue and used to devopt Scott, granted it was hard to see Hank to be mad at him considering how Pym nearly ruin everything...that jerk....

So, scott is trap....AGAIN....is this going to be a thing for now on?, scott being a diferent sort of prision each time?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#91864: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:05:44 PM

[up][up]Oh, I don't mind the colors. The time to rag on Wolverine for wearing bright blue and yellow has been and gone. I just think it's kind of busy and plasticky. Wolverine's not completely invulnerable so armor could make sense, but this just seems like a lot of pads. And vinyl piping. Piping is something you can get away with, but it's, well. A fine line. Literally.

[up]I can think of worse running gags than Scott getting trapped a different way in every movie he's in. Sign me up.

Edited by Unsung on Dec 6th 2018 at 12:06:35 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91865: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:09:34 PM

I do really like love the responsibility flip in this film: that Hope and Hank are "competent people eyerolling at the silly lead" characters on the surface (like they were in the first movie), but are ultimately more assholes condescendingly self-righteous than responsible or practical, whereas Scott is the off-color manchild on the surface but is actually the one busting his butt trying to be responsible for everyone throughout the whole movie.

They really sell Scott being the necessary emotional core of the film - as the unexpected element these people need to grow - a lot better than the first did. I wish that the writers had drawn attention to it more directly - it almost comes off as an accident at times, until the story really gets rolling.

So, scott is trap....AGAIN....is this going to be a thing for now on?, scott being a diferent sort of prision each time?

wild mass guessIn Ant-Man 3, Hank Pym creates The Big House. Scott, naturally, gets trapped in it with like a billion supervillains. Hilarity ensues.wild mass guess

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 6th 2018 at 11:14:14 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#91866: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:12:23 PM

Scott really is a wonderful man.

Makes it all the more amusing just how terrible the Pyms are in comparison to him.

Its a hilarious dynamic, the former convicted felon is the more moral and righteous person.

Ah if only the Pyms are called out more. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#91867: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:15:50 PM

And about Ghost....I dont feel she is sympathic, to quote Linkara about ransik: is one thing to have sympathic backstory and another is to be sympathic.

Also....another stuff from shield? does fury know about it? how many thing escape is graps?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#91868: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:17:46 PM

I would love it if they did the Big House. And Taskmaster, and Thunderbolts. Preferably all at once.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#91869: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:19:25 PM

[up][up]How is she not sympathetic?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91870: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:20:06 PM

I'd love to see Taskmaster in a Thunderbolts plot.

Like, if they have the members of the group who stick with being supervillains, the members who decide to really become heroes, and Taskmaster, who's just kind of meh on everything.

They one thing I don't want to happen is for him to become "lol the guy who loses to Deadpool."

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 6th 2018 at 11:22:47 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#91871: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:21:33 PM

[up][up] Well her backstory and motivations are sympathetic but she is pretty violent.

Sure desperation and all that but still.

Though my main issue with her is that she doesn't show much aside from the sympathetic backstory. In a way she's kind of a flat antagonist.

[up] Taskmaster is indeed a dream character.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 6th 2018 at 11:22:16 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91872: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:24:33 PM

One of my first reactions to the movie back when it first came out was that Ghost isn't really evil, but doesn't do much but do evil things that aren't over the top, and does have much personality outside of that. She's basically defined by what she's not without a firm showing of what she is: not too evil. Not nice either. Etc.

It feels like there was more personality building to her, but it was just cut out beyond backstory.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 6th 2018 at 11:32:15 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#91873: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:30:58 PM

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to Hannah John-Kamen in the role. She's great in Killjoys.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#91874: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:34:19 PM

I'm hoping should Ghost ever appear again she gets more opportunity to show more of her character.

Maybe in a Thunderbolts movie, she could do good work there.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 6th 2018 at 11:34:45 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#91875: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:35:59 PM

I expect she'll be in the next one. The character has a lot of potential as the heroes' amusing Heroic Comedic Sociopath ally, a la Nebula.

I still think it'd be a really cool (and amusing) twist if in a Bad Future shown by Avengers 4, thanks to everyone in her life being snapped, in the intervening five years Cassie was raised (in part) by Ghost and ended up with a skewed moral compass until Scott goes back in time and helps Carol fix everything.

As for SHIELD being oblivious to the innocent kid / miracle of science being turned into a psycho stealth assassin, I assume that was just another thing that HYDRA was up to.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 7th 2018 at 12:09:59 PM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

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