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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
Disasturbator
I suspect there're ok with the high death count because they'll undo the snap eventually,perma death would be a little different
Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 5th 2018 at 6:37:15 AM
New theme music also a box
I'm wondering...originally it sounded as of the Russo Brothers are on their way out from Marvel, wanting to tackle different projects for a while. But now they kind of sound like they want to stay involved.
It can't be that they had a different opinion than yours?
Like i found the film entertained, but i could totally see how some didn't like it, especially from a technical point of view.
So people aren't wrong if they didn't like it.
Not really a lord of anything
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I'm betting there's a chance they still don't reveal the title.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Critically, Venom suffered from the stigma of being a "Spider-Man Villain". The film had its ups and downs, but there was a portion of the viewership who were never willing to give it a fair shot in the first place because it's not Spider-Man 7. Indeed, so prevalent is the whining about Spider-Man that it even made it into the Rotten Tomatoes aggregate consensus:
"Venom's first standalone movie turns out to be like the comics character in all the wrong ways - chaotic, noisy, and in desperate need of a stronger attachment to Spider-Man."
But despite that stigma, the film was still successful enough to make $846m at the box office, presumably because casual filmgoers never got the memo that they were supposed to hate the movie if it isn't about Spider-Man.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 5th 2018 at 11:40:27 AM
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Yeah, BS. It is not really unusual that the audience is gravitating towards a movie which just isn't really all that good critically speaking - see Transformers or the strange success of the Ice Age movies - and sometimes it likes a movie exactly because they don't want something great in the first place - see Sharknado or The Meg.
Venom had just good timing paired with something everyone can snicker over. I mean, who WOULDN'T want to see a movie in which Tom Hardy has a steamy romance with himself?
Regarding the trailer: At this rate, one can only hope that nothing will happen which will delay the trailer yet again but maybe it is for the better. Gives the Captain Marvel trailer a little bit more time to breath.
Speaking of which, you know what would be cool? If there were an explanation in the movie how the Kree corpse ended up in a secret shield base.
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
We needed to do our job as comic nerds better.
One Strip! One Strip!
The dragon archnerd
OR people just dont want all the good spiderman villians wasted in sonys desperate attempt to make more money.
Edited by Drakon69 on Dec 5th 2018 at 8:53:03 PM
DRAGON DRAGON
Not really a lord of anything
Venom was always going to make money. He is like, one of the top five most well-known comic villains.
The real test will be Morbius.
This song needs more love.
When I found out how Venom was marketed in China, I stopped being surprised at its success.
How was it marketed in China? As a romance?
The Head of the Hydra
There were adds showcasing how great a boyfriend Venom is in China.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Disasturbator
Great I'm now imagining the symbiote buying him chocolates while this plays
The dragon archnerd
Hahahahaha it fits perfectly.
An article about the other other Marvel movie that premiered in 2008, Punisher: War Zone, and its evolution into a cult classic that even ended up influencing the MCU. Featuring its director Lexi Alexander and Doctor Strange director Scott Derrickson.
Apparently it's "Obscure Pre-MCU Marvel Movie Day" because it turns out not only does Lea Thompson have no hard feelings about the old Howard the Duck movie, she actually wants to direct a new version for the MCU.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 5th 2018 at 6:03:04 AM
...I would actually be down for that. Especially if it was based on the more recent Chip Zdarsky run, which was super meta.
Huh. Apparently, Lea Thompson directed a bunch of episodes of The Goldbergs and Switched at Birth. The more you know.
Kelly Sue DeConnick consulted in the Captain Marvel film. Which makes sense, since it takes so much from her run — even the tagline ("Higher. Further. Faster.") comes from her run.
Oh, bother.
Was that the run with Spidey breaking down and crying about Uncle Ben?
The Head of the Hydra
Huh yeah that was Carols first run as Captain Marvel. Heard it was pretty good too.
Sad they shat the bed afterwards by relaunching it every other Sunday.
Awwwww. 
And huh that’s what she looks like.
Oh damn that sounds sad. 
Edited by slimcoder on Dec 5th 2018 at 7:11:54 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
(I assume you are referring to Chip Zdarsky's Howard the Duck run.) Yep.
(starting with "In Pursuit of Flight") also by KSD. The "Higher, Further, Faster, More" volume was volume 8. KSD wrote both volumes and co-wrote the Secret Wars mini Captain Marvel and the Carol Corps.
And, to be fair to all the relaunches, Genis-Vell also had, like, four relaunches of his own book. Hence why we are currently at volume...10. (That's not even counting the Mighty Captain Marvel and Life of Captain Marvel books.)
Edited by alliterator on Dec 5th 2018 at 7:16:36 AM
The Russo brothers talk about a lot of things like the Disney-Fox deal, Daredevil, and...other things.
Other things being that Disney was okay with offing half of everyone in Infinity War.
...Yeah.