DEATH BATTLE

Considering how over the top the fights in ROR are, there is absolutely nothing you could pull from actual history that would remotely make any difference.

Even the strongest fighters in real history are pretty damn weak when compared to most of fiction.

You clearly haven’t heard about that one time when Simo Hayha shot a bullet at twenty times the speed of light to destroy a country, that was protected by several layers of infinity.

I know that this is one of those "Just throw the suggestion in" thing, but I actually thing better opponent for Ragnarok's Kojiro would be Miyamoto Iori. Old swordsman with a horrible losing streak versus a young prodigy born in the wrong generation. Kojiro can analyze the opponent to think of any possible outcomes of the duel, while Iori tries to understand his opponent to defeat them. Kojiro secretly hates how all he did was lose, while Iori creates a facade of normalcy to hide his bloodlust. Kojiro copied Musashi's Niten-Ichiryu to create his ultimate swordstyle, while Iori himself was trained by his world's Kojirou, culminating with him learning his Tsubame Gaeshi. Will it be the rematch that Kojiro would hope for, or Iori having the chance to face his tutor?

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

About Shulk vs. Netflix!She-Ra, I feel like the precognition that the Monado gives him would be what gives him the edge.

It's been 3000 years…

So, would the protagonist of Rise of the Ronin be the best match for Jin Sakai of Ghost of Tsushima? I think the Ronin wins because in a game where Team Ninja said was suppose to be "realistic", they gave the MC fucking Judgement Cut with the Iai Stance.

Rise of Ronin or Phantom Blade Zero.

The connection between them is that one has a losing streak and the other one is bloodthirsty and was trained by his own Kojiro, and both have a method of reading opponents?

To be fair I don't know much about Fate's Kojiro beyond that one fight scene from Unlimited Blade Works. Just seemed appropriate.

I kind of don't want to use any Fate character from the spin-off/games after all that lunacy we saw from the G1 blog's "summation" of Saber, particularly the stuff she got from Fate Grand Order. If Iori has any hax meta "gatcha game mechanic" powers that have to be factored into the battle, I'll have to cast my vote against them.

Edited by FOFD on Mar 26th 2024 at 11:06:46 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

It’s easy enough to ignore things like that if you just say “We’re focusing on X incarnation/summoning of the character here today”, if you really wanted to. Iori appears in Grand Order, but that’s considerably disconnected from his story in Samurai Remnant (the event he’s in is only in Japanese at the moment, but iirc he doesn’t even remember the events of SR), which is fairly low level comparative to some other Fate stories.

I admit, Ragnarok Kojiro versus Fate Kojirou could work on the base level. Even if Kojirou cannot analyze his opponent like Kojiro can, his Knowledge of the Sowa skill would possibly negate Kojiro's own analytic abilities since it prevents his swordsmanship to be analyzed.

The problem with the match-up is that the scaling for Fate Kojirou would be hard to determent. With Ragnarok Kojiro, he finally broke his losing streak by killing Poseidon. Okay, that is pretty clear. If you look at Fate Kojirou, however, then things get muddy. The only fight he gets on-screen is against Saber, which is hard to truly measure since A) Saber is being nerfed by her contract with Shirou and B) Saber doesn't even use her full powerset against Kojirou. It is noted that off-screen, he has been able to defend the Ryuudou Temple against the other five Servants, even against Heracles, but only because he has the environmental advantage. It is very likely he would lose against any of them if they fought in more of an even ground.

Now Kojirou does appear in FGO... but here things are sort of the same. If we just take in-story feats, things are either vague (Kojirou forming the "Three-man Dragon-slaying Team" with Saint George and Saint Martha) to one where I don't even want it to be analyzed (the "Nameless Saber" versus Miyamoto Musashi).

This is why I am suggestion Iori over Kojirou because Iori's feats are much clearer than Kojirou's. There are some caveats to some of the fights, but they are much better explained than what Kojirou had to go through. And before you ask, you can probably assume that he has some of the gameplay mechanisms tied into him though they aren't really as bad as what the G1 blog were trying to make with Artoria (for example, Iori probably could just use onigiri to heal himself).

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!

Is the Hulk ever going to score a win?

Well with DB's fate up in the air probably not. But honestly more than anything, I want his Joe Fixit personality to be the one to break his losing streak. It'd be hilarious for the "weakest" Hulk to be the one to pull a win.

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Best chance of him getting a W is with Hulk vs Godzilla

But, also if Avengers vs Justice League ever happens, he's almost certainly going 0-4

0-4? Hasn’t he only been in two battles, against Doomsday and Broly, or am I forgetting one?

Was that main Superman? They’re also pretty cautious when it comes to crossovers and scaling, especially with characters like this that vary so much (aka, Superman ISN’T always at his ultimate strength and has been significantly harmed by a lot of characters who shouldn’t scale to the infinite arguments, and when doing scaling chains like this I think it’s important to see how strong Superman is “meant” to be in this particular run, series, etc.)

Edited by ToadTV on Mar 26th 2024 at 11:41:42 AM

Yeah except the current DC/Godzilla crossover event just had Big G kill Superman.

Hulk is toast.

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Is they use the movie versions, Marvel might stand a chance

Does movie Superman stand up to Carol or Thor’s Star feats?

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The crossover is with the Monsterverse versions.

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And it should be noted that per Toho's contracts, Godzilla isn't allowed to lose in crossovers. Which...probably gives him a lot more feats than he reasonably should have.

Godzilla vs Hulk Hogan.

The onscreen fight won't be as intense as the behind the scenes one.

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Okay, NGL, that just makes Godzilla seem rather pathetic.

I just want to say that crossover sotry was an Elseworld tale and that Superman probably doesn't scale to hid main counterpart, AND crossovers usually aren't included anyway unless they're non canon.

Also, Hulk has been getting hella powerful lately. He has a shot to win.

Powercreep in my Marvel? Nawww, who could have seen it coming?

Granted the last time Toho gave free reign over the license we got the 98 Godzilla.

Almost 30 years later Toho is still traumatized by what that did to their biggest property.

Edited by Spirit on Mar 26th 2024 at 5:32:57 AM

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They are fearsome. They are deadly. They are many. Do not let their cute appearances deceive you, as they can be surprisingly deadly if you give them the chance to attack…

Jack Frost VS Slime

I think the idea of pitting two basic enemies against each other is surprisingly fun, and this one would be neat to see. Not much to the connections besides classic JRPG, low-level enemies (even if technically things like Slime and Pixie may fit better there on the SMT side) with many variations, but I think that’s enough here. A lot of stuff could be done on the different forms they have, could easily see a section of the fight between King Slime and King Frost for one.

As for who wins, I imagine it’s gotta be Jack Frost. SMT has some funky stuff going on with its power throughout all its entries, and I’m sure in at least ONE of the titles there’s an impressive enough Jack Frost that canonically fights on that level. I’m not sure I can say the same for Slime, though I could be surprised.

Yes, there is... but only as a background character.

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And speaking of Fate...

They get a few of the details re. Fate wrong on account of Luke (who knows nothing of the series) repping her, disregard Fate/Grand Order and the Extella series' multiversal scaling, and spend a significant chunk debating whether Saber needs a Master or not.

Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 26th 2024 at 7:01:42 AM

Credit to the G1 blog for beimg through I guess

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

You're welcome, by the way! We put a lot of effort there, lmao.

Edited by ultimate_life_form on Mar 26th 2024 at 10:46:40 AM

You edit the blog? I never realized it.

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