The General US Politics Thread

NVM.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 10th 2018 at 2:18:47 AM

Um... what?

It wasn't mockery at all. They are a literal existential threat and we're bringing knives in a gun fight, when we should be bringing bombs.

I guess he thought it was an insult to him.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 10th 2018 at 4:53:48 AM

And you are acting like there is nothing we can do about them or Climate Change.

While they are dangerous I think you're underestimating the ability of the majority to fight them, if Democrats can take power (they can) then paranoid conspiracy theorists aren't going to be able to do anything other than go back on Reddit or where-ever else they congregate and whine about the government.

While I don't agree with them you are being far too aggressive, there are far better ways to handle this kind of disagreement then insulting or swearing at them.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 10th 2018 at 4:52:37 AM

I'd really consider editing that insult before a mod might take more...stringent means. This kind of language is not tolerated.

With a president who can launch a nuclear warhead at any time whenever he's pissed, we really can't do much it unless we go the extreme route.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 10th 2018 at 4:56:51 AM

This is false on a number of levels, we can vote out Republicans in 2018 and 2020 so there is quite a large amount of things we can do. Furthermore Trump while awful is not exactly that level of awful, he hasn't started any new wars (though it's hardly impossible) and I am highly skeptical of the idea that he would launch a nuclear strike.

If you say so....ignoring the Russian interference and gerrymandering stuff.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 10th 2018 at 4:55:51 AM

And this is why I hate pessimists. Sorry about the aggression, but consider that conspiracy theorist threatened my life and they are apparently causing Climate Change intentionally...

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 10th 2018 at 2:21:33 AM

Do you have any idea how the nuclear chain of command works? Or how politics work?

Like seriously, you're just being ridiculous.

Do you think there's some little red button on Trump's desk in the Oval Office that he can push to fire a nuke or something?

I'm not saying he should be viewed as normal or reasonable but the kind of mass damage he is realistically going to cause is through his trade wars escalating causing mass worldwide economy damage, that's a real risk that should be focused on instead of more fanciful things like nuclear strikes.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 10th 2018 at 4:56:37 AM

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Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 10th 2018 at 4:56:40 AM

I honestly think conspiracy theorists should be shut down whenever possible this point since they are intentionally causing Climate Change.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 10th 2018 at 2:11:02 AM

Thank you for an article from fucking China that's incorrect within the first three sentences.

The President does not have the ability to actually fire a nuclear weapon. There is no physical means for him to do so and the idea that the JCOS would let him is ridiculous. Especially given the amount of pushback the Pentagon is already giving him.

Anyway I think this is getting a little out of hand so let's move on....

Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings are set to begin on September 4, so barring something spectacular, it's very likely he'll be in the SCOTUS before the midterms.

Their influence is cancerous and should be suppressed but lets be careful about the rhetoric, violating the law would simply give them and their allies ammunition and thus only lawful means should be used against them.

(just felt the need to point this out, "by any means necessary" can cover quite a bit)

Fair enough, that's unfortunate but not exactly surprising. I suppose we'll see what a Supreme Court with him on it decides to do...

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 10th 2018 at 5:01:15 AM

Sorry, but when you threaten my and my family's life and intentionally cause Climate Change, that's going too far.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 10th 2018 at 2:03:15 AM

Yeah, you're right. Guess I didn't consider that when making that comment. My apologies.

Anyway, I don't see how sustained opposition towards Kavanaugh will be able to keep Republicans from quickly installing him as judge. Even if Democrats win the House in the midterms, it's unlikely they'll retake the Senate even in a Democratic wave (the House has no say on confirming judges), and if Ginsburg goes in the next two years, how can we stop Republicans from installing more GOP judges?

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 10th 2018 at 5:06:14 AM

They don't "cause climate change", more or less every technologically developed country is responsible for that to one degree or another.

Frankly this is a discussion that has no productive directions it can go in and I'm going to back away from it.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 10th 2018 at 5:07:14 AM

Apology accepted.

Yeah, I think it would be a really good idea to change the subject.

Edited by CookingCat on Aug 10th 2018 at 2:07:26 AM

It won't be able to stop them from installing him as a judge but it will send a useful political message to the base if no-one else, by publicly opposing him the Democratic Party is making a stand and that's often useful.

And I wouldn't discount taking the Senate, sure it's not something we should expect but with the election of Doug Jones the Senate became far more viable then it was before.

They don't even need Doug Jones-esque miracles- if every Democratic incumbent wins, and they take Nevada and Arizona, that'll be 51 Senate seats.

(Though, I mean, that's a tall order; there are six vulnerable democrats and them gaining anything other than Nevada or Arizona would take a Doug Jones-esque miracle.)

It wouldn’t take a miracle to take Tennessee, the Dems have a good chance there. However it would take a miracle to hold all current seats, North Dakota is looking especially had Florida isn’t looking much better.

There are predictions out there seeing a zero swing result with a six seat change, the Democrats are hugely at risk in Nortg Dakota, Florida and Indiana, while they have a chance at picking up Nevada, Arizona and Tennessee.

High five, fellow Holy Fire witness! I saw the flames crest the peak of the hills in Riverside County just a few miles from what I work. We got evacuation notices and everything here is still covered in ash.