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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#14201: Sep 11th 2019 at 1:44:57 PM

Video game AI lock on means that proper guns are OP against a stabby assassin.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#14202: Sep 11th 2019 at 1:52:00 PM

That should be incentive enough to not get caught.

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#14203: Sep 11th 2019 at 1:53:20 PM

What, like Assassin's Creed is a stealth game or something?evil grin

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14204: Sep 11th 2019 at 3:06:08 PM

You know, seeing Medusa just standing around in the forest takes away a little of the magic, but she's still pretty scary.

But then you notice, hey, those snakes don't really move on their own. They just sort of move along with Medusa's movements, like hair or clothing. The heads are also frozen in place. It looks like she is wearing fake rubber snakes on her head and body...

Optimism is a duty.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#14205: Sep 11th 2019 at 3:08:49 PM

I can't fathom how hard it would be to animate dozens of snakes in ways that dont make them clip or break their skeletons.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14206: Sep 11th 2019 at 3:22:48 PM

Pretty hard, I'm sure. Of course you wouldn't really notice when she's jumping about and fighting you.

By the way, yeah, you can find all the mythical creatures, both animals and monsters, walking around their respective areas. The monsters appear outside their arenas, usually just outside the entrance to it. They generally just stand around. I wanted to watch the Kretan Bull wander for a bit, but it just decided it wanted a nap. grin

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#14207: Sep 11th 2019 at 3:27:57 PM

I’d say it’s about as hard you’re getting paid for though I admit, I’m talking out of my ass.

Come on, is this how you earn your paycheck?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 11th 2019 at 3:31:15 AM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#14208: Sep 11th 2019 at 3:56:21 PM

Regarding the legality of blades, in most cases they are just as restricted as guns are. You don't see too many security details with knives, let alone swords, outside of formal dress uniforms. If you are carrying a bladed weapon (and you aren't a soldier), you are either hunting or otherwise doing outdoorsey stuff, concealing it for a criminal purpose/self defense, or getting the cops called on you for carrying it openly

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Sep 11th 2019 at 8:12:57 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14209: Sep 11th 2019 at 3:59:12 PM

A blade made out of hardened glass is definitely possible, especially if you are satisfied with one time use. You could also get a stone knife, like obsidian.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#14210: Sep 11th 2019 at 8:55:19 PM

I mean, we're talking about swords here. Combat weapons presumably, not weapons for assassinations.

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JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#14211: Sep 12th 2019 at 1:41:07 AM

And as we know, the Templars are a world spanning organisation with fingers in many pies. Real world PM Cs can move weaponry legitimately from port to port with very few restrictions; floating armouries exist IRL which is where ship-board security tore their weapons if moving into a weapon-free water zone.

Also, international mega-corp... should not have issues with weapons. We know they're involved in weapons development as well!

But yeah it's likely gameplay restrictions as they couldn't code guns in for just a single scene.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14212: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:39:04 AM

I think you guys are forgetting that one mission in AC III where the baddies DID have guns, but it still didn't do them any good.

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JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#14213: Sep 12th 2019 at 3:26:13 AM

[up] They were also cocking semi-automatic pistols like they were flintlocks...

Again, engine constraints.

But it goes to show there are options for real gameplay switches in these games - you could have the "real world" be a modern setting where you have to infiltrate or move around a modern setting; then animus into a historic area to see how it used to look, maybe take note of passages and things you can then re-find In the Real.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14214: Sep 12th 2019 at 3:38:46 AM

Of course, the real problem is that guns sort of break the gameplay, which revolves around close quarter combat most of the time. Unity was a great demonstration of what it would be like to be an assassin when the enemies have accurate guns, and it sucked. It was realistic, sure, but it wasn't much fun as an AC game.

I think this is part of the reason why the series has moved back to before the gunpowder age.

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Lost in Space
#14215: Sep 12th 2019 at 3:52:44 AM

It's almost like guns beat swords in a realistic setting. Who could have imagined?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#14216: Sep 12th 2019 at 4:00:13 AM

This is also probably why we'll never get a full-fledged "modern day" setting. Heck, there was a bit in Assassin's Creed III where Daniel Cross mocked Desmond for still relying on the Hidden Blade.

"Let's not draw this out. You've got nowhere to go and I've got a gun. Speaking of which... it's the 21st century and you're still running around with only a tiny knife for protection? It's stupid. Alright, Desmond. Game's over."

Edited by M84 on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:02:58 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14217: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:33:37 PM

I'm a little disappointed by the depiction of the Battle of Marathon, which uses battle standards to represent troops from both sides. It renders the account rather sterile visually.

Also, it is silly to represent alleged heroes joining the battle by identical Athenian flags.

Not quite as silly as talking about the rich and varied musical culture of Greece while playing the same five sea shanties over and over, everywhere, though.

Edited by Redmess on Sep 14th 2019 at 12:43:35 PM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14218: Sep 17th 2019 at 6:41:17 AM

Aspasia may try to paint Athenian women as strong and resourceful, but that sounds a bit hollow next to the description of how Athenian women actually lived. Though, of course, Aspasia may be somewhat biased in that regard.

Spartan women, on the other hand, were apparently pretty powerful, at least physically. Clearly, you did not want to get in a fistfight with a Spartan woman. This also makes clear why Kassandra being a Spartan is the most logical, and credible choice.

I don't know what the tour mode is on about about exploring underwater. You don't have your ship, so you only have those dinky little fishing boats (at least they are indestructible here), and there are no markers for interesting underwater locations, not even the shipwreck sites from the main game. Did the developers really expect us to just aimlessly swim about underwater to see what's there?

I wish the discovery sites were organized in some menu somewhere. There are hundreds of them, and some sort of organisation would have been handy. Good luck finding the ones on the twelve works of Herakles!

I also wish they had added an overview tour of the entire Peloponnesian war. As it is, we get three battles, and some comments here and there, but one tour to put it all together would have been nice, especially since it is the games' central background conflict.

The tour is pretty good, though it can turn into a bit of a slog at times, as there is a LOT to explore. You probably need at least four or five long sessions to complete it all.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#14219: Sep 26th 2019 at 6:05:24 PM

Goes into some of the artistic choices when it came to differentiating Jerusalem, Acre, and Damascus.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14220: Sep 27th 2019 at 3:30:35 AM

Still looks pretty decent for such an old game.

And just look at all the freerunning architecture everywhere. Things really have changed a lot.

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JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#14221: Sep 27th 2019 at 3:43:20 AM

In a weird way, the "Free climb anywhere" makes things easier but almost LESS fun - no longer are you plotting your route through the city or trying to find that "just right" way up a particularly interesting building.

Free climb means you now get frustrated when a random bit of geometry WON'T let you climb.

But it does make controlling your character a bit easier...

And AC 1 still looks amazing. I did love the stark lighting choices, how Acre is a grey, watered down palette, Jerusalem is more yellow and vibrant.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#14222: Sep 27th 2019 at 5:17:47 AM

I was just thinking recently that it’s surprising they never remastered the original. It’s the only game until he series outside of the handheld/mobile/Facebook spinoffs that can’t be played on PS 4/Xbox One.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14223: Sep 27th 2019 at 6:36:27 AM

Maybe they are waiting for the PS 5. And then they'll remaster all the other games for the PS 5, too.

On some level, it's kind of frustrating that all these games have finally been remastered, only to have the console quickly become obsolete again.

Optimism is a duty.
BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#14224: Sep 27th 2019 at 6:51:10 AM

PS 5 is supposedly backwards compatible this time.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#14225: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:41:35 AM

I vaguely remember similar claims being made about the PS 4. I won't hold my breath on that one.

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