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Recent political stuff:
- The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
- Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
- The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.
A link to the BBC politics page containing relevant information.
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Why do you assume that one will remain? They could end up permanently splintered. And if they damage each other, it could put off voters from voting for either of them.
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permanently splintered is wishful thinking,no someone will remain unfortunely. Hoping they wipe each other out is farfetched thus unrealistic
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“I’m so aware of it is because Hitler was elected in Germany in 1933, the day I was born, and so I’ve always known of this very unfortunate coincidence.
“But the important point is he was elected, and he was elected by all the sort of techniques of thuggery in the democratic process, which we’d seen growing in Germany in the 1930s.
“And what terrifies me above all is the language I hear from people saying, ‘Oh, well, if we, if we don’t get Brexit, they’ll be violence on the streets.’
“The extremes of the ’30s were born of economic stress. And the thing that is driving the extremes of today is the fact that we’ve had, since 2008, frozen living standards, and people are looking for alibis.
“If you put together the bureaucrats of Brussels, the immigrants and the foreigners and the elite, all that sort of stuff – it’s got a sort of basic, chilling appeal for people who are desperately looking for an alternative. If you have a stagnant economy, you have to work your way to improve that economy.”
He took his own potshot at Mr Rees-Mogg, saying voters, “should be appalled at wreckers who suggest we should be there to disrupt Europe, a statement, I have to say, by Jacob Rees-Mogg, which has probably done more to undermine British influence in Europe than any recent statement I can remember”.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Apr 15th 2019 at 9:12:25 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
It's nice to see Life of Brian reversed, though. Most of Labour is holding together, while the right has gone all Judean National Front/National Front of Judea/Judean-Roman National Front.
An election under those circumstances might actually bring out a strong enough Labour government that Brexit can be put to rest for good.
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Unless Labour winning inspires the right to pull an Enemy Mine, win the next elections and bring up the idea again.
Oh, bother.
One can't underestimate just how much the UK rightwing hates Corbyn.
They are fucking terrified of the idea of PM Corbyn.
Disgusted, but not surprised
I thought nothing regarding the leave campaign would surprise me anymore but somehow this did:
And I really don't know why it didn't even occur to me that they would not just use misleading pictures, but also actively fake footage.
Pelosi warns US will not strike Brexit trade deal with UK if Good Friday Agreement is undermined
Speaking at the London School of Economics, the speaker of the US House of Representatives warned a future trading arrangement between the two countries is not guaranteed, and said it would not happen if the UK’s exit from the European Union violates the terms of the 1998 peace accord.
Ms Pelosi said: “First of all it is very hard to pass a trade bill in the Congress of the United States, so there’s no given anyway. But if there were any weakening of the Good Friday accords there would be no chance whatsoever, a non-starter for a US-UK trade agreement.
“The Good Friday accords ended 700 years of conflict. This is not a treaty only, it’s an ideal, it’s a value, it’s something that’s a model to the world, something that we all take pride in.
“It was a model and other people have used it as a model and we don’t want that model to be something that can be bargained away in another agreement.”
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The title is cut off to me. That said, it's on the person posting the video up provide details, wherever the video itself might show.
Edited by sgamer82 on Apr 16th 2019 at 3:00:46 AM
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Well, the video thumbnail is "Leave.EU faked migrant footage", so... the link is pretty self-explaining.
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It was on Channel 4 tonight. Here:
Revealed: How Leave.EU faked migrant footage
An investigation by Channel 4 News found that images purporting to show “migrants” attacking young women in London seem to have been staged.
The group – backed by businessman Arron Banks – was also behind a fake video, claiming to show how easy it is for migrants to sneak into Britain. In reality, satellite data shows the men on board had not left UK waters.
The photographs and video both involved a former SAS soldier, Jonathan Pollen, who works for Banks’ corporate intelligence agency.
Although the photos were never used, the fake video went viral, garnering hundreds of thousands of views on Facebook.
Responding to the investigation Arron Banks accused Channel 4 News journalists of creating “fake news” themselves.
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Amusing fact about the Labour membership cards: they're a single piece of laminated card that you need to fold in half so the back is actually the back and card-shaped. Fortunately, the backs are actually sticky, but it's amusing.
Revisiting an old point: yes, it does state that Labour is a democratic socialist party.
In non-Brexit news, Labour is now pledging to remove primary school tests if elected. Naturally, despite actual teachers widely agreeing with this, the schools minister is insisting this would undo all progress on literacy and numeracy.
Edited by RainehDaze on Apr 16th 2019 at 12:57:37 PM
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A procrastination in of itself
Membership cards only turned into that recently, my originally card was a much more solid thing and I only got it ten years ago. The foldable cards are also reissued every year because of how easily they break apart. I think they first issued them 3-4 years ago, I remember getting my first foldable one not that long ago.
Sadly I can’t use my original anymore, I actually cut it in two in protest of Labour voting for article 50 (at the time I’d have quit the party but that’s a much more complicated than you’d think).
Edited by Silasw on Apr 16th 2019 at 12:17:57 PM
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
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Since they print contact information on the newer ones, I suppose it's pretty helpful to reissue them anyway.
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A procrastination in of itself
Like they update it, the party has had my last three new addresses and on my card I’m still tied to the CLP at my parents. I need to figure out how to move CLP at some point, but that probably involves tracking down my new CLP office and that sounds like more work than I care to do for what’s on my card.
The card reissue does lend itself to some jokes though, I always tell people I’m such a socialist that I carry two labour membership cards with me at all times.
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
I am not sure what about "Vote leave faked footage" is unclear but to elaborate: the Channel 4 reporters used the GPS of the boat on which the footage was shot and it shows that the boat FIRST went to various places at the coast (where footage of "people who have crossed the channel leaving the boat" was shot) and THEN it made the travel to Calais - most likely without any of the people shown leaving the boat ever crossing the channel at all. The video was released in the week of the referendum and made it look as if you can easily cross the channel on any random boat without risking getting controlled.
Edited by Swanpride on Apr 16th 2019 at 10:46:52 AM
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Ah, the porn age verification system that will only serve to create a server cataloguing the technically inept is coming into effect in July.
It's even more inept than the original proposal. Damn useless moralising...
Edited by RainehDaze on Apr 17th 2019 at 2:03:50 PM
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So, what is going on with channel 4 suddenly having all those reports about the shady dealings of vote leave?
It was supposed to only come out after Britain was safely out of the EU, but given what a shitshow the whole thing has been, the thieves are falling out early.
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Sure, but if Channel 4 is now reporting about the BBC being compromised...how does that even work?
Oh, bother.
Airport boss raises Brexit and tax concern
Basically, the uncertainty around Brexit is making airlines in Scotland uncertain about investment in the future.
Disgusted, but not surprised
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The "Corbyn has no good choice" parade continues.
As usual, between this and everyone the other day insisting that Labour must 100% go for a custom's union... isn't it nice not being a party leader?
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Oh, bother.
Shit like this is one of the reasons I never considered a political career myself.
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I correct my previous wording: people's vote, not custom's union.
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> Pelosi says no trade deal if Good Friday Agreement is violated
Polite language for "The Irish Diaspora of the United States is heavily pro-Ireland and anti-Loyalist, and they'll flay us alive if you try to negotiate a deal after reneging on the peace process, so we wont do it."
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