Index?: That Guy With The Glasses Index

The That Guy With The Glasses Index, since it's classified as an index, appears on the bottom of every work page of every work that has ever been reviewed by That Guy With The Glasses.

Is this the intended behavior? I assumed that it wasn't — listing every reviewer (even only every big-name reviewer) at the bottom of every work they reviewed would rapidly make the bottom-of-the-page listings too long to read. A while back, I changed the page type of That Guy With The Glasses Index to 'just for fun' to prevent it from appearing on the bottom of the pages it lists, but someone changed it back, so I thought I'd ask here to see what people think. Should we create a Zero Punctuation Index and a Roger Ebert Index and a New York Times Review Section index and so on, all of them set up as indexes to appear at the bottom of every page that those things covered?

Basically, I think that the indexes at the bottom of pages are more useful when they only cover the categories that directly describe the page's topic itself. Having a page for a That Guy With The Glasses Index is fine, but having a note on every single work that That Guy With The Glasses reviewed saying that he reviewed it seems like it's generally going to be empty noise to me, making the pages longer without really conveying anything meaningful to most readers.

edited 17th Apr '11 4:03:28 PM by Aquillion

God, this is stupid on levels I never knew possible.

This shouldn't exist. At all.

But, if it must stay (and I doubt it must), we need to put it under Just For Fun or Useful Notes and keep it there. This is not helping our case. First anime Tropes and now TGWTG fellators.

I agree, this should not be an official index, just a list. I think it was made into an index partly because of Fan Myopia and the site's popularity here.

That's exactly why and I agree while a list is all fun and good, official index is a mite too far.

I think this was made beacuse we have Mystery Science Index 3000. The thing is, Mystery Science Theater 3000 is much more popular off the internet. But its not full of pot holes and other stuff that screws it up as an index.

While I'd be fine with changing the Mystery Science Theater index to a just for fun page, too, it has a redeeming feature over this one — chances are, most of the items in that list are long-forgotten B-movies that are only remembered because they were featured on Mystery Science Theater 3000. I mean, I think it's reasonably valid to say that MST 3 K is a valid thing to link to from Manos: The Hands of Fate, say. Basically, because it lampoons things that are 'small', a MST3King tends to have a large impact on the stuff it covers — it can come to define them, in a way that most of the other stuff that gets listed in the index section on the bottom defines stuff.

That's not true for most other things, though (and not true for That Guy With The Glasses, who often covers popular things, stuff that is very 'big' — where, therefore, the fact that it appeared on That Guy With The Glasses isn't a particularly defining thing for the work itself.) Chances are movies like Manos: The Hands of Fate (and most other things in the MST 3 K index) are only well-known enough for someone to think to create a T Vtropes page for them because they appeared on MS 3 K.

Basically, it makes sense to list MS 3 K as a defining index on the bottom of Manos: The Hands Of Fate; it doesn't make sense to list That Guy With The Glasses as a defining index for the Transformers movie.

But again, I'd be fine just changing the MST 3 K index, too. There are probably some works where having the MST 3 K index link at the bottom looks weird.

edited 17th Apr '11 6:36:19 PM by Aquillion

If the article needs it (as the show made it popular), it can just mention MST3K in its own description.

I'm not sure it wouldn't work to mention that TGWTG reviewed a work, either, just that it doesn't make sense as an actual index. It's just useful information, ala Fanfic Recommendations.

edited 19th Apr '11 6:03:13 AM by BigT

What the hell?

The MST3000 index is okay, although it really should just be mentioned in the description. They at least reviewed stuff not many other people did, and many of the old movies are only known through MST 3 K.

This? It's just dumb. I'm all for cutting. And as for putting it in the description... Why? Transformers 2 was reviewed by That Guy With The Glasses, does that mean we should mention them in the Transformers 2 description? As said before, Mystery Science Theater at least is the only way many people even know of some of the old films. TGWTG can review pretty much anything.

Somebody thought of my example before me. Weird.

edited 19th Apr '11 6:49:16 AM by Scardoll

I am in for cutting or moving to Just for Fun.

With that said, I don't think it's fair that MST 3 K gets to be excused from this either. Yes it is true that a lot of their shows are obscure and wouldn't have been known had it not been for MST 3 K, but the same could be said for some entries in That Guy With The Glasses, especially some like The Cinema Snob.

Well MST 3 K doesn't really review movies it plays them as well as makes fun of them which is different. Many you could probably only find on MST 3 K. I think it's fine.

But yes get rid of this index please we don't need indexed for reviewers or we might as well do an index for every movie reviewer and what movie they reviewed which would be stupid.

Its also screwed up an an index to to he large amount of pot holes.

Yeah, those movies were shown, not reviewed.

I say the page under discussion should just be for the shows on That Guy With The Glasses.

]Hm... I guess. Fair point about MST 3 K then.

Yeah, that'd be much better. Just simply list the works they have reviewed on their appropriate pages but not index them, and simply index the reviewers/shows in this one.

edited 20th Apr '11 2:00:45 AM by Ookamikun

We already list most of the reviewers/shows (and all the ones that have pages) on the That Guy With The Glasses page itself; this would just be redundant.

Is it an index for them?

So maybe change That Guy With The Glasses as an index?

I support that.

I'd say keep the current index as a Just for Fun page, I could see why people don't want it as an official index, but I'm personally against cutting, since the only real problem it causes would be solved by making it JFF.

How about splitting off lists of works onto TGWTG shows that have their own pages.

Actually, all we have to do is change it from being an index page. We can keep it the way it is otherwise.

Second'd