General Star Wars Animated Series

Whether or not we'll see more of Snoke in Resistance is anyone's guess. You know who we will for sure be seeing?

Hondo.

We know that crusty old pirate is still alive and kicking at the time the show is taking place, as he is part of the story of Galaxy's Edge in the Disney parks, which is set during the Sequel Era.

Gosh he'll be ancient.

Hondo meeting Luke would be interesting, given that he and Ahsoka are probably the only people alive who knew Anakin as Anakin.

It’s gonna be a sad day when that old bastard finally dies.

That would be interesting. You're right.

Its surprising how few characters have apprences spaning all three eras of the setting. (not counting force ghosts)

Threepio, Artoo, Chewie, Asoka (I think?) and Hondo.

Edited by Whowho on Jul 4th 2018 at 4:42:16 PM

I would not consider 6-ish years after Endor to be Sequel Era yet. If I had to put a date on it, I'd say no earlier than Rey's birth in 15 ABY. So Ahsoka doesn't count yet.

Also, Ackbar is in all three eras.

Also, depending on how you view Solo, you could consider Han as being in all three as well.

Known: Rex is still around post-Endor too, although almost definitely not by the time of the Sequels.

Actually, of the three, he's the one most likely to have spoken to Luke about Anakin.

Edited by BadWolf21 on Jul 4th 2018 at 11:42:54 AM

The sad thing is that Rex probably only discovered that Anakin was Vader when he talked to Luke. Depending on when exactly they spoke, but I'd guess after Bespin for maximum feels (plus there's the most time unaccounted for there).

Apparently, this is our first look at Star Wars Resistance.

Yyyeahhh I wouldn't count Solo as prequel era or Rebels' flash forward as sequal era.

I'd probably have prequel era be begining of phantom to end of Revenge (though I'd be happy to give it an earlier start point). Original. Era be end of revenge to battle of Jakku. I guess the TV show set 6 years after Endor will be its own era. And the sequal era would be the start of Resistance onwards.

So, what, that's 13 years, 24 years, 23 years and then 6 years (ongoing) which is fine by me.

I'm liking the art style.

If I'm not wrong, Cardinal from the Phasma novel is in this picture. That's interesting.

What do we know about Cardinal?

So far, he has only shown up in the novel Phasma, where he is the Token Good Teammate to the First Order-acting as a counterpart to Phasma and handling the earlier portions of stormtrooper training, rather than the later, specialized portions she handles. He is emblematic of the failures of the New Republic-a decent person who was one of the countless billions left behind in the chaotic regions of the galaxy, after the Rebels slapped out an immediate peace treaty and focused on rebuilding the Core Worlds; rather than actually going out and stabilizing the rest of the Galaxy that was left to its own devices. Like most of the First Order, he was taken as a child raised among the chaos and indoctrinated, with his only contact with the New Republic reinforcing his perceptions of a weak, corrupt government that needed replacing. Not to give too much away, but the novel is framed as an interrogation with him questioning and torturing a captured Resistance fighter/mercenary for information on Phasma, on his own initiative; he thinks she is rotten and a threat to the First Order. He is right, but not for the reason he thinks.

Whowho: Personally, I think it needs to be split in five:

• Prequel Era: encompassing the current earliest point on the timeline (two comic stories set shortly before Episode I) through Episode III; around 13 years
• Dark Times: encompassing the Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith comics to the start of Rebels; around 14 years
• Original Era: encompassing Rebels through Shattered Empire; around 9 years
• Post-Original; encompassing the Aftermath Trilogy through Bloodline; around 24 years
• Sequel Era: encompassing all works post-Bloodline; around 6 years so far (this will probably shift earlier as we learn more about the time between Episodes VI and VII; I would name Phasma as the current start of the Sequel Era if we knew exactly when it took place)

Edited by BadWolf21 on Jul 6th 2018 at 2:13:33 PM

I have no issue with that. Splitting the dark times and the original era makes sense I guess as the tone of the universe is different with a large rebel presence.

But the start of Rebels feels like an arbitrary point, as the rebel alliance didn't even exist at that point. (I think?)

The Rebellion was put together almost immediately: Saw Gererra and Cham Syndulla never really stopped fighting, they just switched targets with off the grid support from Bail Organa. Bail spent the time after the Declaration of a New Order handpicking the first generation of Rebel Alliance members from his personal staff and the Alderaanian government. By the time we jump to a year after Episode 3 in Ahsoka, he has vetted most of his staff and has begun sending out his first operatives to conduct Rebel business, instead of handling everything himself.

As for dividing a timeline: the Rebel cells were somewhat organized from the start, but they did not begin openly working together until the end of the first season of Rebels. Combined with the call to arms broadcast by Ezra, that seems as good as a point as any for formally declaring the Rebellion era.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Jul 6th 2018 at 5:18:43 AM

It existed although it wasn't public yet. The Rebel Cells didn't start to unite until the season 1 finale. Hera was the only Ghost Crewmember that even knew about the larger rebellion.

I chose the start of Rebels not for any in-universe event, but for the identifiability of the aesthetic, and how stories set in the period feel. It is unmistakably the same visual language as the Original Trilogy. The next closest events to it are pretty much Solo and the early parts of Lost Stars, which are too early.

It’s the same reason I didn’t name the Original Era as the Imperial or Rebellion Era. Because it doesn’t nearly fit as either. The Empire exists for the entirety of the Dark Times, and the Rebellion doesn’t officially end until the Battle of Jakku.

One other thing I'd like the series to answer: When Coruscant was the Old Republic capital for thousands of years and the Empire also used it as their seat of power, why did the New Republic decide its capital would be a planet no on has ever heard of before?

We actually know this. The New Republic had a moving capital. Based on who was chancellor I believe.

If they kept moving the capital then why did the Republic stop existing the day that one planet got destroyed?

Presumably because a lot of important upper brass were on the planet when it blew up.

Did it stop existing? We have basically no information about what's happening in the rest of the galaxy, only that the First Order is spreading it's armies out in an attempt to conquer it and nobody gives a crap about the Resistance (the latter of which, at least, is kind of business as usual).

It's an issue with the more rigidly compact scope of the Sequel Trilogy, combined with not taking a lot of its own background information seriously, that the characters' actions supposedly affect the entire galaxy but are never given any context as to how.

Imo, Star Wars really ought to take advantage of it and expand on that by having big things and plot thickening events be happening offscreen that we get to see with the characters later, rather than doing the simple thing and just overlaying the small scale conflict over the large scale.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 9th 2018 at 4:30:21 AM

The opening crawl for The Last Jedi says:

So the crawl sees to think the Rebublic has fallen and the First Order is in control of the galaxy. I just wish the movies would explain the basics of the setting. At least with the prequel trilogy we knew what was going on.

Edited by WillKeaton on Jul 9th 2018 at 5:34:37 AM

"Decimated" is vague, is my point, and doesn't actually tell us anything more than we knew from the TFA, which is that the Republic took a big loss. Neither the crawl nor the movie mentions how the Republic is responded to that loss, or to First Order's subsequent assault, and the movie never explores what the state of the galaxy is beyond a couple planets that are removed from the conflict.

The status quo for TLJ takes Broad Strokes in regards to the situation in what little other continuity we have, just as TFA itself took Broad Strokes from the surrounding lore, doesn't help. The situation has little information about it and is desperately in need of context.

As I said, the only solid piece of information there that's solidly established, and then further corroborated by the movie, is that the First Order has come out of the shadows and is on the attack. How that's actually affecting the galaxy and what's being done in response to it by anyone but Leia isn't considered important by the film and is thus completely unaddressed, leaving a very open area for writers to fill in whoever they so choose.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 9th 2018 at 4:53:28 AM

TLJ only takes place a few days—maybe even a few hours—after TFA. The New Republic is definitely reeling from the attack, and the First Order is capitalizing on their confusion by taking some of the most important systems, but I highly doubt that they are completely defeated. Presumably they are some of the people who responded to the message at the very end; maybe they were planning to surrender because things looked hopeless, but but Luke's display showed that the First Order is pathetic and can be defeated.

But the sequel trilogy is pretty Libertarian and insists on the government being basically useless, so who knows.