Harry Potter with mecha

In that way she's the opposite of Snape who would rather make the children fight and give them the weapons to survive, unless forced to take action himself. Minerva would rather fight and only send out the children at the last resort. But desperate times call for desperate measures and she can do nothing but prepare them for the troubles ahead.

While she does have a mecha a Wildrauptier (Which Hermione steals and gets destroyed) she never actually goes out to pilot due lacking in aptitude. However when the children are threatened she can pull amazing feats of magic that she needs no mech to use.

When Snape pulls an Ingram on them she's put in charge of the Battle portion of the ship and finds herself struggling to balance her morality with the situation at hand.

His machine is the Ialdabaoth which was one of the original Magitek designs it is often joked about by the pilots that Dumbledore could probably end the whole world in a week if he really wanted to. The headmaster often joked back that it wouldn't take him nearly that long

You are now seeing Dumbledore saying "you are already dead." after punching Voldemort through a mountain. I would have preferred him to have a Gespenst-S though.

Book 1 Plot: When the Dark Lord was killed attempting to murder Harry Potter a brilliant light triggered across the world named (Again since I am creatively bankrupt) the 'Summer of Love' which robbed the wizarding world of its magic and forced it to modernize. When the magic returned after a period of 3 years the Magical community decided to adapt the technology they had begun using to work in a magical environment and thus the birth of Magitek. When Harry neared his 11th birthday he was given an invitation to Hogwarts school of Witchcraft and Wizardry but grew cautious when walking around Magical London, he did however manage to forge a sort of friendship with Draco Malfoy who was also beginning and talked at end about mecha. Sort of Friendship because the two didn't exactly part exchanging letters or handshakes. It was then Harry was informed of the other half of Hogwarts. The school doubled as a pilot’s academy for the gifted training. Thinking of the mecha Draco had talked about he agreed to an aptitude test.

Yadda Yadda skip character introductions, Dumbledore ordering the ship to fly shocking the hell out of whoever’s onboard, announcement that they are most likely be going to be under attack from the Death Army (because Death Eaters sounds STUPID)

The secondary reason of course is hunting for the rare artifacts of the magical world such as the Philosophers Stone. While the more adult crew members speculate on eternal life and riches the first years simply discuss how it would make a potent energy source for a mecha.

This quest leads them against the Death Army's command ship Stormbiter and against its ace Pilot the Black Hurricane.

So it's a school populated by Ryuseis  ^*

Well at least it has the elements of Harry Potter Still a school, still learning magic, still hunting after the Philosphers stone (though this time it's actually a hunt)

I'm guessing the upgrades are something like

Harry: Lightning Frame Ron: King Gespenst w/ Queen, Rook, Bishop and Knight Bits as well as Pawn-Trash Bits Hermione: I don't really like the Aile for her I know she's a hard one to place I actually didn't like her character all around as it felt like a mix between Ron (who's genuinely interesting this time) and Harry. She needs a whole rewrite in my opinion. Neville: Duro duh. Draco: Gespensts Mk I,II,III and then Dy Gen Guar? He's the big Super Attacker after all.

Actually you know what for Hermione why don't we give her the Altairlion?

edited 2nd Feb '11 2:04:51 AM by Izaak

Hermione: Given a Lion to preform Scouting duty and outscores the other first years (and some of the second and third years) on the pilot simulators which earns her the scorn of her peers (just like how her being a hotshot a school lead to people disliking her) When the school is infiltrated by the Death Army she finds herself stringed along and holds out for as long as she can and is saved by the other main characters. When Ron is sick and not down in the Stockades she's told to take the Gespenst Mk. Axe out instead (since she's got the best natural scores to replace him). After that she requests to go out on the frontlines more instead of just hanging back, which leads to her getting the Altairlion over... who's another first year that makes a good character for the Vegalion? Could probably name one. Lavender might make sense since as a Gryffindor she's supposed to be more suited for active frontline duty and instead it was given to someone who would be better suited on the Bridge (the other position Ravenclaws get)

She stops being high and mighty about the scores, actually fights on the front lines which helps others accept her.

If that's her character, give Hermione the Vegalion and Lavender the Altairion.

And for much laughs and wicked game-breakerness, have Luna be the daughter of a Fury knight, and give her the Vorlent.

oh god LUNA insane Luna with a Raftclans. Loopily quoting Al-Van and Sanger.

Harry's made the captain of the Skull Squadron but goes AWOL in the 4th book and Ron, Hermione and Draco are the three candidates to take over (permanently even when Harry returns).

So Hermione gets the Aestelion but when it comes time to decide the Vegalion/Altairlion pilot selection she's chosen for the Vega.

Though she's grown out of the Sleigh perosnality by the end of the first book, so it stops fitting then.

Also Fred and George for the Wildwurger and Wildfalken?

If she's not a good fit for the Astelion line then how about the Sieguarlion line?

Lion, Guarlion, Sieguarlion

The other Aces could help her with the customization as well, which would be a good bonding moment, Ron shows up with parts in a truck, they seal off the hanger, put on music and Spec 2 on the Guarlion.

edited 2nd Feb '11 2:09:03 AM by Izaak

Slytherine Squad: The Slytherine Squad pilots MA style Giganspada units based around long range bombardment and Dog Fighting with enemy high-speed units, the Spada's aren't likely to be shot down but have a high magic and energy consumption.

Ravenclaw Squad: The Ravenclaws aren't supposed to be out on the front lines fighting, piloting Lion units they scout the battlefield constantly sending data to the main battleship for the Ravenclaws on the bridge to analyze and send to the combat squads. Without the Ravenclaws the entire battlefield would be restricted to what each individual unit could see. While the majority of Lion pilots load light armaments such as a small knife and inbuilt weapons, there are some who equip Assault blades to better combat the enemy

Hufflepuff Squad: The defenders of the other 3 squads, the Hufflepuffs pilot Barrelions allowing them to participate in bombardments with the Slytherines and provide cover fire for retreating or advancing units, their high defense allows them to take shots the Lions wouldn't be able to take.

Mass-produced Armorlions for both defense and maneuverability. Huff House isn't exactly big on offense, and you need to be fast on your toes to catch shots meant for your teammates.

Right forgot the Armorlion for a moment it's too bad there wasn't a mass produced Giganscudo.

Any other problems you can see or suggestions to make?

Crabbe and Goyle would be those two Giganspada pilots who don't really say much or do anything besides hang around Malfoy, don't have custom units or even a custom paint scheme but they really are quite good in a fight and have exceptional aim.

Colin Creevy and his little brother Denis (when he comes in) run the News Paper for the whole City-Side reporting on the battles, interviewing the pilots and getting an introspect on the civilian side of Hogwarts.

The House Cup and Quidditch Cup are meshed together into a big old Kill Board, each pilot is asked to record each kill, assisted kill, etc. and they are all tallied up declaring an overall hardest working Squad. There's also a feast of mourning for pilots who lost their lives in combat. A celebration of their lives and a time to cry it out with those around you.

Book 2 Character Updates.

Harry Potter: Ever since he defeated Bellatrix Lestrange in the final battle for the Philosophers Stone Harry's been on Shore Leave and has grown a lot more friendly to those around him (Especially since he has no reason to be cold to those around him) He's given direct command of the new squadron being created on the ship and is told to pick any pilot he wants from any of the squads to join him. As the year goes on and Pilots are being found petrified all around the school the Squads are accusing one another of the deed leaving Harry to solve the mystery. He's a lot more curious this time around, since before he was trying to keep to himself but now that he's got some confidence and friends he wants to see the world.

The Excellence starts getting new frames now since Harry is currently one of the only earthbound pilots (and Ron has his Chess Bits to help him fly) and he's gotten much better with the system.

Ron Weasly: In the final battle against Bellatrix Lestrange Ron had to self destruct the Gespenst Mk. Axe leading to a large portion of it being destroyed. Rather than upgrading to one of the new mecha he cannibalized one of the new Flight Capable Gespensts to make the Gespensts Mk. Armory. Despite being informed that Mk. Armory isn't actually a number Ron ignored them and began upgrading the Chess Bits as well, soon he had rebuilt the Gespenst and its remote army into a new being.

Hermione Granger: The Guarlion actually survived the final battle intact but Hermione suffered from a bit of Shell Shock from a near death experience (only near death because Nevile took the bullet) recovering slowly in the Civilian wing she tries to keep her mind off the combat and off the war, focusing instead on studying and wishing for her friends to return from leave or whatever work they were doing because she missed them.

Soon she was working the bridge crew helping the new first years learn the ropes of the mecha and having a blast doing it. When Neville was released from hospital she felt she could finally return to the Guarlion.

Hermione has grown a lot since the first book, like Harry and Nevile she was introverted though for her it was because smarts alienated her from those around her, rather than a fear or being hurt or general timidness. Now however she feels comfortable being around the pilots of any squad knowing they respect her as a colleague and as someone who understands what it means to risk their lives.

edited 2nd Feb '11 2:19:48 AM by Izaak

Neville Longbottom: The Shuroga had near totaled the Giganscudo in a mad rush and Neville was critically injured in the battle, only surviving due to luck. Neville was upset at himself for being shot down and failing to avenge his parents but Draco had confided in him that he was probably the bravest of them out there. Neville implored Snape to help him fix the Giganscudo and he was given the Duro parts, told to be both sword and shield for his comrades if he wished to survive on the battlefield and earn his revenge.

However Neville had left a legend in that battle, people told stories of the Giganscudo being there holy shield and defending them from annihilation, the Armorlion pilots painted a Yellow coat of arms on their machines out of respect.

Neville however isn't convinced that Bellatrix is dead and that she is most likely hiding out somewhere until her magic returns to her.

Draco Malfoy: Draco was shaken up from the final battle, besides finding out in the harshest of ways that Bellatrix who had been trying to kill those he considered friends was his relative, he also learned that his father had joined the Death Army as one of their top captains. Realizing that he was going to either have to fight his friends or fight his father Draco took Shore Leave and went on his own journey. Since his own Grungust had been destroyed beyond use by the end of the battle (though he had not been shot down) he had to borrow a Giganspada and shrink it to carry when he landed.

In his travels he discovered the Huckebein Mk. II under construction at a Muggle factory and after offering to help he added Magitek Technology from his Giganspada to the machine. With the help of the Engineers he was able to develop a Docking system between the Spada and the Huckebein which would give the latter the ability to fly and an increase in armaments. With the new Huckebein Mk. Spada he returned to Hogwarts with a new appreciation for Muggle Technology and a new resolve to fight.

Severus Snape: Snape exceeded his 10 minute limit in the final battle rather than retreat and let the students fight alone. The intense pain knocks him into a coma and gave the responsibilities of commanding the Millitary side to Minerva Mc Gonagall. When Snape finally awoke he discovered to his shock and horror that he simply couldn't move. He felt pain still but couldn't will his body to even twitch. He spends most of the Second year rehabilitating his body even returning to the bridge while his legs still didn't work just to reassure the crew.

Snape was the one who authorized Harry to command a new squad since he admitted that although he had wanted to help him, the Astranagant hadn't actually engaged the Shuroga in the final battle, so if another threat like it appeared he could expect Harry to be able to handle it. When discovering something is petrifying the Pilots he is caught trying to climb into the Astranagant and find the cause.

He's still cold and ruthless to the soldiers and the bridge staff but the now second year students reassure the new first years that it's just his way of looking out for them.

Minerva Mc Gonagall: With Snape out of comission Mc Gonagall finds herself having to take control over the military aspects of the ship, however since they aren't hunting down a philosophers stone or anything like they were in there first year she instead decides to begin investigating ruins, While Magitk technology was new to her Dumbledore assured her that there was ALWAYS something deep and buried that qualified as ancient technology, though she was still very doubtful of the truth.

When the pilots are petrified Mc Gonagall refuses to leave the current ruins they are at, deciding that if she did leave the cure may lie within, and that she was risking permanent harm to students if she simply left. Overall she's still not as good as Snape in a combat situation, he's overall much more ruthless and probably would have had the ruins nuked to be on the safe side. However Mc Gonagall still leads with smarts, and a kind heart isn't a detriment.

NEW PILOTS

Ginny Weasly: Ginny joins the school now that she's of age and immediately goes for the aptitude test despite her entire family (and 60% of the population of Hogwarts) protesting against it. Unsurprisingly she scores much higher on the aptitude test than her brother and is integrated into the new Gespenst Kai squad once she's sorted into Gryffindor.

Over the course of the book Ginny becomes more distant and cold to the other pilots and her family, choosing to avoid meal times with them and even beginning to fight against old and new pilots, insulting anyone who chooses not to become a pilot and acting very abnormal.

At the end of the novel her Gespensts Kai mutates into the Gespensts Basilisk and nearly shatters the protective dome on the Civilian city, however when the machine is destroyed she's left in a coma much like the petrified victims before her

Ginny is technically a better pilot than her Brother and Harry but they both have the actual experience on the battlefield, however she dreams of joining there squad one day.

Luna Lovegood: Sorted into Ravenclaw Squad but does terrible on the pilot aptitude tests instead relegated to the Bridge Crew, Luna sort of serves as the pilots’ therapist as she talks with them whenever they take flight, she doesn't judge and they don't judge back. When it comes time to focus however and danger is on the line Luna can transfer data like no other.

She's still kinda loopy and deranged which intrigues the pilots who have a number of positive and negative nicknames for her. When asked if she wanted to fly in a mecha one day she simply stated that she was waiting for her own to finally return to her.

Luna: CHEESSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I came.

I would've liked an Alt Eisen/Weissritter combo between Ron and Hermione but I like your unit picks.

I just don't see Hermione in the Weissritter. And as for Ron in the Alteisen it COULD work, but I wanted him to be the normal one (the normal one out of a bunch of magicians, I know how stupid that sounds) In the books he never did shit, Besides the Hand-Me-Down Gespanst (even though he sorta just stole the remains) seems to fit that he's not the newest, most luxurious, he can't change frames like the Exellence, hell for a good long while he couldn't fly like the Lions, and he didn't have Draco's big 'Fuck Off' Sword.

What he did have was a Gespenst, a lot of spare parts, and a lot of time on his hand. It's a grunt that's constantly upgraded every year, to the King of all Grunts.

As for the Gespenest - S. if it were to exist it would only appear once. That isn't to say of course that it would be the end of the Gespenst Kick. After all there needs to be a 'Checkmate' if Ron's going to have the King Gespenst.

Snape is... Well I wasn't necessarily thinking Natarle when I was writing a hardass, I was thinking "Snapes a dick in the books" But then it's not like this is potions class or that Slytherin is the EVILLLLLLL group anymore. He's got a responsibility for a lot of lives and if he was just being a dick for the hell of it there's a good chance that he wouldn't have the position.

I added the time limit because I wanted him to be awesome, but I didn't want him to take anything away from the students who are the main cast. I wasn't actually thinking D-Boy I was thinking SAKURA WARS as you get older your spirit energy starts to fade and it gets harder to pilot the Kobou or STAR or whatever Trashcan pigmy for the game.

I actually thought he was more Holland + Ingram + Ratchet. He's got Hollands dick side but he would still risk his life for the pilots. Ingram because he's prepping these kids to be stronger and stronger. He's given them two mecha (Excellence and Giganscudo) he's let two of them upgrade and or customize their units and he even let Draco keep Enemy and Muggle technology rather than using the Castles own mechs. And the Ratchet comes from the fact that he's facing his own weakness, it’s not age but he's losing more and more of his connection with any mecha and he's kinda afraid that eventually he won’t be able to go out at all and help anyone if they were in danger. After all, their first bad guy was Beatrix Lestrange and she wanted to murder them all, and would have succeeded without his intervention. It's only going to get WORSE from there. There's only so much you can do with a battleship.

edited 2nd Feb '11 2:23:48 AM by Izaak

• Harry = Shinji
• Ron = Tonji
• Neville = Kensuke
• Hermione = Ibuki
• Luna = Rei
• Ginny = Asuka
• James = Gendo
• Lily = Yui/Eva-1
• Draco = Kaworu
• Lupin = Kaji
• Twins = bridge bunnies (those two guys)
• Tonks = Misato
• Dudley = Jet Alone pilot (for the lolz)
• Dumbledore = whoever that runs Seele

Post 2nd impact, James sent his son Harry to his sister-in-law's home, where the boy grew up. He was summoned at age 11 to London-3 and told that he'd be a mecha pilot against Death Eaters, once the followers of the cult of Voldemort who had mutated themselves into inhuman creatures of immerse power. Only those with magical powers could use the technomagical mecha that were created through jointed Magical-muggle operation.

Death Eaters:

• Quirrell/Troll form (3rd Angel)
• ????/Basilisk form (4th Angel)
• etc.

Hermione being in an Altairlion and Vegalion combo with anyone doesn't feel right to me, since she never got any significant friendships with other girls in the books and movies, so any partnership she has with anyone outside of the trio will look awkward. There was Krum, but he's probably busy piloting a custom Wildscwein MP or something (that's just what I see him piloting), so the Siegerlion or Astelion is probably the best bet. At least until the last book upgrade.

The one problem I have with this is that: The mecha setting guarantees a military that would simply dismiss him. And the magic world will pull off some memory wipe if he decides to share his Giganspada with the Muggles. Also, even if he did somehow get impressed by the Hucky Mk.2, he'll have to get its plans somehow, and understand how to incorporate it into his Giganspada, which would be REALLY HARD seeing as, at this point, he's twelve. It would be more believable if the characters started Hogwarts at high school age and finished at age 23.

All valid points, I just didn't want to shovel him off to the next Grungust over and over again, I was actually thinking the Chokijin series and getting an upgrade to the Ryujinki.

So maybe Giganspada-> Grungust Type-0 -> Giganspada again (while the Grungust is getting repaired?) -> Grungust Type-1-> Ryujinki.

But then if KoOuki is introduced who gets that? Someone from Slytherin? He just pilots the combined machine alone? Never gets the combined machine? I'm not shooting anything down I'm honestly asking for brainstorming Ideas I hardly remember most of the characters.

So Muggles created the Huckebein series, Death Army created the Grungust (or at least the Type-0) and Hogwarts created the Gespensts.

Going back to the Giganspada is bad, though I can see him just flying it around on leave...

His Father works with the Death Army right? Maybe he goes back to him, finds the project data for the Grungust series (and files on the Choukijin) and gets out. It makes sense since it's his own home so he probably knows how to sneak into it. No one expects him to go back though getting the project files would prove difficult (unless he can read his dad like an open book and could guess the password)

Hogwarts develops the Grungust series and gives them the edge in robot technology. and since it's a big thing for the formerly ground based mecha like the Type-0, Excellence and Gespensts to start flying having the Bird mode gives him his upgrade.

So:

• Harry: Excellence, gets new frames each book (The Lightning frame in like the 5th or 6th). Or is the Excellence destroyed and he takes another mecha? I quite like the Excellence
• Ron: Gespenst Mk. II Mass Production Type, Customized every book, with Chess Themed G-Bit style weapons
• Hermione: Lion Series Mecha up to the Sieguarlion so far. Maybe swapping to the Huckebein series at Mk. III? I can see her with the Aussenseiter oddly enough.
• Neville: Giganscudo -> Duro, he REALLY doesn't need anything beyond that, though maybe a Gestalt system with the Spada units since they are practically the same frame.
• Draco: The Grungust/Chokijin series, Grungusts Type-0, Type-1 and then mutual destruction and rebirth with the Ryujinki. Skips the Type-2 (say that's a MP Death Army Unit) and gets the Type-3, RyuKoOh? (If someone can be found to pilot the KoOuKi side)

• Ginny: Grungust Kai that's destroyed, Possible KoOuKi pilot, Vysaga? Angleg? Soulgain?

• Luna: Vorlent-> Raftclans Mysterious as to where the mecha came from (they just showed up on the battlefield one day) or how she's the only one who can pilot them, maybe tied to her insanity. Quotes Al-Van and Sanger a lot.

Any other Major pilots?

Feels kinda shitty that Draco's literally the only Slytherin and Neville's the only Hufflepuff, there are 3 Gryffindor (Harry, Ron, Ginny) 2 Ravenclaw (Hermione and Luna) but those two are alone to represent.

I get why but maybe have someone like Pansy Parkinson or whoever that chick he's supposed to marry that was only revealed in a press release pilot the KoRyuOh side.

edited 2nd Feb '11 2:37:05 AM by Izaak

Book 1 Final Battle:

After warding off an attack by Bellatrix, Snape is downed, and a subspace is unlocked by Quirrel in the Hogwarts ship. The trio follow him and have to get pass several challenges like in the book; in the end, only Harry gets to find Quirrel, who is about to steal the Philosopher's Stone, which turns out to be some sort of big Black Box Magitek thing. The battle has Quirrel be possessed by Voldemort and has Harry losing until he discovers the power of love and hot blood and guts. He then casts off the excellence frames like V Gundam into Quirrel's mech, which is still left standing. Harry then WAVERIDER CRASHES Quirrel into the stone and wins, destroying the stone along with Quirrel's mech, just like in the first book.

Just to expand. The idea is that they don't force Bellatrix to retreat (They've done that before) they actually shoot her down, without Snape's help (although he does limit over trying to reach her) thus the reason they form the Ace Squadron in the second book. At this point the Striker Frame is heavily damaged, the Gespenst is a wreck, the Grungust is missing both it's arms, and the beam sink on it's chest is melted due to constant fire. the Giganscudo was actually shot down and Neville was taken into the sickbay. The only unit that can still properly fight is the Guarlion piloted by Hermione.

Quirrel is supposed to survive and remain an enemy ace, because otherwise the Death Army just loses so many named Ace's and it's already scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for them. Keep the scenes including the Excellence being trashed even further, but have him survive by having a megillot squad drop in and pick him up taking him from the battlefield and far from pursuit (Since nobody is up to the task)

Voldemort awakens from his comatose state howling in pain and rage at Quirrel that with the stone gone he will not be able to take his revenge. Lucius and Narcissa who are on the bridge bring good news, that the Grungust designs are completed and with them 'The Death Army can fight for another Ten Years!'

edited 2nd Feb '11 2:35:39 AM by Izaak

Let's get this over with.

You can introduce the Muggles Huckebein Models in book 2 (and alude to them in book 1, like a news report about the next generation of mecha combat) have them actually fight in battles in the 4th book (which is Harry's Renton around the world supposedly) just stuff like the Excellence crashing, Muggles come to investigate come under attack by the MP Grungust Type-2's Harry supports them and says it's a unit in development by some sort of weapon agency, doesn't tell the wizards (and doesn't use magic so no one can detect it).

Then in book 5 they suffer from heavy losses and a quarantine of most of the onboard military by the Ministry, they debate how to bolster their forces and Harry or Hermione suggest getting the Military’s help. Can't keep up the masquerade forever. They wind up getting help and are gifted with Mk.II Ms and a Mk.III with AM Gunner and Boxer components (Hermione's upgrade?) so they can develop their own mecha. Along with sending along pilots to teach the Hogwarts pilots the control scheme.

Better than going "Oh those Silly Muggles could never understand our magical situation, let’s ignore any help they could give".

So who would be prominent enemy aces?

I mean obviously there's Bellatrix discussed at length, Lucius discussed all of none, Voldemort who I assume is still coming back to life to eat a mecha knuckle sandwhich.

And since there's talk of the Ministry interfering before its reform in Book 7 can we assume that the Hogwarts crew will be battling Aurors or the wizarding army. What about Gung-Ho Muggles? Obviously there should be good muggles like the ones who supply them the Huckebeins and keep magic a secret?

Bella: The Shuroga, very blood thirsty and insane but can in very rare circumstances act rather normal. Debates rage on in universe whether she's naturally like this or whether she was tortured into it.

Lucius: The Grungust Mk.II and then later the Zweizergain, continuously trying to convince his son to turn his back on Hogwarts and join the Death Army. Used to be a ruling power over Hogwarts when it was still grounded but since it took to the skies and it's hard to argue with "Giant robot army to the face" he threw his lot in with the Death Army.

Voldemort: Not dead but in a constant flux of comatose and screaming terrible pain he still maintains many loyal supporters (some who pity him) the Death Armies main goals are to find ways to revitalize him and kill those who stand against him. When he finally does come back his backwards ways force him to deny piloting a mecha until he sees the full power of Hogwarts main force.

Pilots the Valefor (which he latter gives to Bellatrix once he reclaims her) and the Extim.

Vernon Dursley: a Military contractor behind the designs of the Randgrith, which while powerful did not maintain the same speed as the Huckebeins did and was thus looked over. Vernon is very abusive to his family but to his credit he does have some impressive designs that he later sells to the Death Army (in disguises of course)

Dudley Dursley: Vernon's son and sent straight to military academy which he is definitely unsuited for. Spoiled and pampered by stupid instructors he hasn't so much as left the simulators much less piloted a Huckebein. The one time he does take off in one of the Military’s Camions he crashes within a few minutes and is court marshaled.

Wandering around doing who knows what, maybe he'll sharpen up and become an ace pilot after watching the Gespensts in action, or maybe there's a Randgrith lying around he can use.

Quirrel: one of the Death Armies infiltrators and supposed to teach combat training to the pilots and students, however he acts rather inept hoping the high fatality rate will put Hogwarts out of commission.

He is also there to learn of the location of the Philosophers Stone and seems unaware that Snape is also an infiltrator.

He often swarms the battle field with Megilots and the few times in the first year he takes to battle it's in a Zechariah disguised as a Gespenst. Thought to be killed at the end of the first year, was instead recovered and served as an enemy ace for years to come.

Gildroy Lockheart: An incompetent who often likes to think of himself as an ace pilot, winds up letting the Death Army inside the dome on an occasion and ceremoniously thrown off the ship.

Dolores Umbridge: a pilot for the Ministry decks out her machine in gaudy ridiculous pink and believes herself god’s gift to the battle field. Make no mistake she's not bad a piloting just incredibly vain. While Snape would struggle to take to the skies to fight alongside his students if it looked like they were in danger Umbridge woud launch and hang back, swooping in when victory was already assured.

The Hogwarts rebels against the Ministry she blows up one of the ships engines forcing it to crash and making it a target for the Death Army, once weakened from an assault she leads Ministry troops against the ship and seizes it.

She pilots an Eliphas which earns her the disgust of the Hogwarts pilots.

>Dolores Umbridge

>Pilots THIS

>Does actual damage to the ship

>Acts like a cowardly bitch

Cue fans screaming for her death

>Dolores Umbridge >Pilots THIS >Does actual damage to the ship >Acts like a cowardly bitch Cue fans screaming for her death

Well, it seems more fitting if the upgrades follow a line, so instead of getting a Giganspada again, you could just give Draco an Grungust type 2 MP or a Grungust type 1, then in book 6 when he betrays you again because Voldemort scares him shitless, he gets a type 3 from the Death Army, which then becomes Thrudgelmir in book 7. The bad guys will no doubt have Machine Cells, Voldemort is ALLLL about immortality after all. While he did end up with a girl in the epilogue of book 7, it was an asspull on Rowling's part and Draco had no actual partner to speak of in the books; everyone was either above or below him. I think being a lone rebel death army pilot suits him better than being in a Chokijin.

If Ron's using bits...does that mean the Weaslys are Psychodrivers? That would be awesome in itself. Although it wouldn't make sense in context, I would like to see a Weasly-piloted SRX. If Hermione is in Dai Trombe...who`d be riding her? The yuri is strong in this one. I know the Luna in a Raftclans is supposed to be a joke idea, but it's totally awesome. Ginny would probably get a Gespenst Mk.II-R in a later book, since she's a badass. If I remember correctly, she's pretty much a background character until book 5, so maybe she'll get it then.

Hmmm that is a good question, I guess if Draco's got the Grungust line then he should ride her but that's unfortunate implications. Maybe if no one gets the DGG then Luna will ride her hard.

It would make a more EPIC END if the muggles do team up with Hogwarts, so keep that idea. Maybe the wizards can buff up the Huckys, giving them stronger Magical weapons, making prototypes of Exbein and Guarbein for aces from other countries. The wizards would also get Muggle weapons like the Graviton Cannon out of it. I don't see this happening until book 6, which is probably when things get bad enough that wizards will finally admit they need the help of Muggles.

Joke Idea: Umbridge in a Valsione.

edited 4th Feb '11 5:03:05 AM by Izaak

I really don't like the idea of Draco defecting back again, maybe in battle he's shot down and taken prisoner then tortured, when that doesn't work (6 years fighting for justice with people you consider friends will do that) he's imperiused. Leads to his father having doubts about his position and the reader looks at characters like Bella and Quirell and go "How much of their actions are theirs?" Given the Type-3 and serves as an enemy ace, when it looks like the main characters are going to bring him back Voldemort has Snape stab them in the back. Then he fires his own flag ships cannon at the whole group and seemingly kills them all (Causing Lucius to plot against him for killing his son)

Yes I meant the Gespenst and no he's not a Psychodriver he just has an innate understanding of tactics (he's the best chess player on the whole ship) remember the bridge crew sends live tactical updates to each mecha and he still has magic, he can control them via magic and over the years develops more control over that power, at first there small ramming bots (Pawn Bits) Then he can make them do specific maneuvers (Rook and Bishop Bits) then he can make them move more complex (Knight Bits) and then finally he can have them act near independent (though it requires a substantial drain) (The Queen Bit, singular)

Also no Joke I'm entirely serious about Raftclans Luna. I even got the scene in my head, the 4th year she steps off the bridge and walks towards one of the airlocks saying "Its come" "What!" "My chariot has arrived" and the Vorlent descends from on high right outside the airlock as she opens it and steps into its palm. Otherworldly, Mystical, Can't be explained which seems to suit her well.

And for the Type R... yeah that works, might want to upgrade further still since we don't want to take her brothers Gespenst monopoly away. How about the Valsione? The school is populated by Ryuseis.

I was thinking the same thing with the Muggles, the Hogwarts crew can't turn to the ministry who've made it clear they will oppose, they can't fight the Death Army alone, Muggles have a very mass produced very powerful mecha that can bolster their ranks. Sharing technology like flight and gravity weapons would help foster a deeper relationship between the magical and muggle communities.

Besides the Death Armies greatest insult would be being defeated by those who have no magic.

>Rons getting smashed around, his Queen, Knight, Bishop and Rook bits have all been destroyed and an enemy has his Gespenst by the throat

"Your pathetic pieces won’t save you this time"

>Suddenly an ARMY of Pawn Bits rush the enemy latching on and holding it in position

"You forgot one of the most important rules of chess, your pawns have infinite potential"

>Snaps his fingers and all the Pawn Bits detonate killing the enemy ace

>"Your pathetic pieces won’t save you this time"

Oh c’mon really? He's piloting the KING Gespenst, no "and here falls the king" or "Check" or something punny like that? I would even settle for "Your kingdom for a horse".

How about the Weasly twins getting the Huckebein Mk. III-L and R?

Only other twin mecha available are the Fairlions...

If Ron's gonna have the whole chess motif going, the Gespenst King has got to be a dead ringer for the Shinkiro, with the Queen Bit as a Guren lookalike.

Also, someone's gotta have the Ash Saber / Weiss Saber / Rapiecage.

Someone suggested the Wurger and Falken for the twins, but that might cause fangirls to look WAY to into it (as if fangirls like that actually know what the Wurger and Falken are)

I still don't know what the King Gespensts will look like, same basic frame as the Mk.II MP but it's got the upgraded weaponry and Tesla Drive of a Kai, and of course his Bitchin Axe.

And yes those 3 need pilots. Just on the side of the Death Army or the side of Hogwarts?

So it's basically a generic anime plot using the terms and character names from another universe?

Does Ron stick with his Gespy Mk IIM as a base for his mech, or does it get destroyed, ever? Right now I can only see him as a younger, ginger, Kai Kitamura. I just want to see this scene: He does destroy a Horcrux in the 7th book, so I can actually see him STAKING it with the G-Impact Stake of Griffindor, or he could incorporate the Revolving Stake into its right arm later on. Or just Jet Magnum it. Whatever, Ron is in a Gespenst, Gespensts stake things.

Remember how the Sorting Hat has the Sword of Griffindor? I don't remember very well, but did the other house founders put things in them too? If that's the case, they can just compress the items, which the Sorting Hat will let out once a pilot from that squad fulfills a certain requirement.

• Griffindor: Colossal Blade or G-Impact Stake, when the pilot shows enough HOT BLOOD.
• Ravenclaw: Oxtongue Rifle, when the pilot is in serene state of mind (like G Gundam's clarity of water).
• Hufflepuff: a giant shield. When the pilot's desire to protect others is at his/her max. Neville uses this to ram into things with Ganduro.
• Slytherin: Boosted Hammer. When the pilot is feeling smug as hell.

Ginny in a Valsione sounds good...maybe she would lead the Quidditch team, who would use the MP Valsiones. Of course, hers will be red and gold.

I don't like the idea of Hogwarts getting any Shadow Mirror mechs because so far, their whole technology series has nothing from them, and the death army has Lucius' Zweizergain. Any SM mechs on the Hogwarts side would feel out of place.

I wasn't thinking of any SM mechs for Hogwarts, only Balmar mechs used by agents like Snape and Quirrel and the Unclassified like Eliphas (who works for the Ministry proper anyway). Unless you mean the early idea of Ginny having a Vysaga or Angleg or Soulgain. In which case yeah probably a bad idea.

Since the Fairlions belong to Ravenclaw, maybe Cho Chang and some other girl will get them.

Joke Episode:

That prom dinner in book 4 has a mecha beauty peageant, which was caused by the Ryuseis persuading Mc Gonagall to hold one. Hermione and Cho team up to impress their respective dates, and get put into Fairlions. They run into Death Army P Ts during the ceremony and the two are forced to fight in them, with the blades on their arms, fireworks, and confetti as their only weapons...and win. Hermione is too embarrassed at the end of the episode to keep using it, but Cho likes the Fairlion and gets Luna to pilot the other Fairlion with her until Luna gets Raftclans. Hermione would go back to her Astelion or Siegerlion, whichever she would have at this point, but at the end we see a close up shot of the goth loli headband she was forced to wear while piloting the Fairlion in her cockpit.

The Ash Saver would probably be a commander unit for Death Army, just under the aces. Weisssaver could belong to Lucius' wife. I can see that since Lemon was always with Vindel, who has Zweizergain, which Lucius will have.

I'd like to see SOMEONE getting the SRX + R-Gun though, as well as the Alt Eisen and Weissritter.

SRX: developed by the ministry using Muggle plans, stolen and constructed by the Death army and 'liberated' by Draco. Going through the hands of every faction at one point or another.

Can be used when the Gespenst, Sieguarlion/Astelion and Excellence are all out of comission/

JOKE EPISODE: The trio hold 'Gun Idol' to find out who shall pilot the R-Gun, everyone in the school from the Patil Twins, Cho Chang, Crabbe but not Goyle, Hagrid and even a DISGUISED BELLATRIX LESTRANGE try out for the position of Gunner. Eventually the job falls to Ginny but in their first practice Sortie (Against Draco and Neville) they fail at combining, Hermione controlling the R-3 has never attempted to control Remote weapons and winds up smacking the R-2 and R-1 around. Harry meanwhile has discovered the transformation lever on his R-1 and is screaming bloody murder while he flies uncontrollably around at supersonic speeds. Ron meanwhile has been exclusively using the Gespensts control system for the past 5+ years and has no idea what any of these buttons do.

At the end of the episode Ginny takes out both Draco and Neville by launching the Valsione out pilotless causing both boys inner Ryusei's to butt heads attempting to save it.

Featuring various scenes where the three try to figure out exactly how to combine into the SRX (Including one where the R-1 stands on the R-2's shoulders while giving the R-3 a piggy back ride) all while Snape screams "TRY AGAIN!"

Dean Thomas, Sean, and the Patil Twins end up piloting the SRX and their first sortie and combination goes off without any hitch despite having only piloted Gespensts and Lions.

As for the Alt Eisen and Weissritter, I'm thinking Ginny who still doesn't have a definitive mecha for the Alt and Oliver Wood (Remember that guy?) for the Weissritter. When Wood was supposed to graduate at the end of his 7th year he decides to hang around as the Roy Fokker to the Hogwarts pilots, thus when the Gespenst Mk.III is announced he eagerly signs on for Project White Knight.

Ginny with the Alteisen: With her Gespenst Mk.II Kai destroyed after being upgraded into the Basilisk and her II R slowly but surely falling behind her comrades Ginny took desperate measures and looked to the Mk.III program signing up under Steel Beowulf. Before testing however the project was deemed a failure as the machine was to overweight, couldn't fly under its own power, and was simply not viable for mass production. None the less Ginny would not be deterred forcing the people in charge to let her test it. The result was an astounding success as she not only moved but skillfully manouvered the machine. Despite the Steel Beowulf project being considered a failure Ginny was allowed to keep the Alteisen as she was the only pilot who could properly use it

(2) Then maybe we can have one death Army girl in a Soulgain going BEOWUUUUULF. Ginny actually kind of fits in the Alt since she's got a pretty calm personality and is basically ginger Kyosuke already.

Pansy Parkinson, felt like she was being overlooked by Draco because of his focus in the Ace Squad, overlooked in combat, and decided no one would even notice if she went missing (Contrasted by them sending several squads inside to look for her)

Eventually she finds her way to the Death Army and partially out of despair, anger, and a desire for revenge she's accepted into their ranks and told that to prove her worth she'll have to kill an enemy soldier.

She feels herself freaking out on the battlefield and winds up striking down Wood's Gespesnt MK.II Kai, believing she's killed him (Someone who was never exactly mean to her and had saved her life before) when she had been aiming for Ginny's Mk.II R made her despise the red head for forcing her hand.

For her success they gift her with the Soulgain, and at the same time Ginny and Wood/Bones/Brown debut in the Weissritter, in a bloody clash she discovers Ginny is piloting the Alteisen and remembers that she had once offered to work in a program much like it, but like the Alteisen it was scrapped before testing and no amount of begging changed that.

Hence she screams Beowulf and seeks her out wanting to kill someone who has received everything she wanted, respect, honor, friendship.

Oiver Wood was the Gryffindor Captain for the first 3 books, he was kinda a cool older brother figure also I didn't post that as shipping I posted it as "Oh god I killed someone who I didn't mean to kill" even though she (maybe) didn't actually kill him.

Hagrid: Keeper of the grounds of the Hogwarts Civilian side he made sure that the surrounding village of Hogsmead and the castle were all in tip top condition. He did undergo mecha training and was actually quite good but he never felt a real need to go out, deciding that the civilian side was much more important to maintain so that even after battle the pilots had somewhere to call home.

During the 5th book and the seizing of Hogwarts by the Ministry Hagrid disappeared talking about finding his own way to take the ship back. To that end he snuck into a Death Army production facility deep in the mountains and found his new weapon

So: Rivalries:

• Harry (Excellence ->Lightning frame? or he gets a different unit?) VS Voldemort (Kaiser Ephes)
• Ron (Gespenst Mk 2 M Weasly Custom) VS ?
• Hermione VS Lavender (Ibis vs Sleigh?)
• Neville (Ganduro) VS Bellatrix (Shuroga) (tortured his parents)
• Ginny (Alt-> Riese) + Wood/Bones (Weiss) VS Pansy (Soulgain)
• Draco (Grungust line) VS Parents?

In the past: James (Gespenst R?) VS Snape (Wildschwein, going with the Ingram thing)

While Shuroga is fitting for Bellatrix, that kind of means Sirius gets Cybuster then. I sort of see Shuroga as an Elemental Lord, and in this universe, only those of the Black family would be able to have access to them.

Here's what I was thinking:

• Harry (Excellence ->Lightning frame? or he gets a different unit?) VS Voldemort (Kaiser Ephes)
• Ron (Gespenst Mk 2 M King Weasly Custom) VS Deaths Hand (The 5 top Death Army aces think of the Death Squad from Layzner)

• Hermione VS Lavender (Ibis vs Sleigh?): I dunno about this one, this implies another defect over to the Death Army which I guess makes sense. Leave this as a placeholder for now.
• Neville (Ganduro) VS Bellatrix (Shuroga/Valefor (Remember Voldemort gave her Dumbledore’s brother unit after she got back in his good graces for her first few disgraces))
• Ginny (Alt-> Riese) + Wood/Bones (Weiss) VS Pansy (Soulgain)
• Draco (Grungust line) VS Parents

edited 4th Feb '11 5:47:52 AM by Izaak

Can't you just post a link to thread you're copy/pasting all this from?

@Acritdy: The threads of 4chan are limited to only 250 posts and are deleted once they reach page 15 unless bumped. Its been a week since these were posted. The thread is long gone. I'm lucky to even have saved this. I'll try to upload the files to something, but turboupload refuses to act fore me at the moment.

edited 4th Feb '11 5:48:02 AM by Izaak

Now my idea for Hermione's upgrade from the Siegerlion would be near the end of book 5, AKA a huge ass influx of the Death Armies agents and mecha with things like Ash Sabers as you said, so she has to practice Ra MV's in the Sieguarlion which has been quite sluggish compared to literally everyone else in the unit, even Neville's picked up the pace in the huge tank unit. When attempting the maneuver she crashes and is seriously injured, turning in her resignation and crying as she feels she's letting everyone down and dragging the entire team down. Note that the pressure is on and the Sieguarlion is total scrap now which isn't helping with the Ministry confiscated half their armed forces and the Death Army is constantly fighting them. On top of that her first test with the Huckebein was a total flop and she couldn't even reach the standards she had when piloting a Lion.

Mc Gonagall slaps her one right across the face Jamil style and tells her to get a hold of herself. the Sieguarlion was outdated by a good 2 years and she had managed to keep pace for that long when the Excellence got new frames or the Gespenst was upgraded, She was still an incredible pilot.

Like with the Alt Eisen there were always projects for new weaponry and this one was Ravenclaw designed, the Astelion. Faster than the Sieguarlion, better outfitted, it just needed a pilot who could handle it. The only other choice for pilots would be Lavender who was a Gryffindor but had passed all the tests needed to pilot the machine.

Seems kinda emo I know but I think it's good to show that it's not all hunky doory. She eventually pulls of Ra M Vs and pilots the Astelion full time but not only was there the fear of falling behind, attempting the maneouver hurt her pretty badly.

Anyway that was my idea since I wasn't thinking of the Vegalion and Altairlion.

Hermione IS the type to be hard on herself though, so that Minervaslap was probably necessary. I like the idea of her getting the Astelion, but the 5th book's end seems kind of late for an upgrade. Harry and Ron are getting new frames and weapons in each book. Maybe you could put it at the end of the 3rd book, when they had to escort the hyppogrif in one of those ships you had to protect in OG 2; the mission where Arado gets the Boosted Hammer. I'm suggesting the Hyperlion combo for the 6th book, where even the Astelion couldn't handle things like the Weissaver and Zweizergain. Hermione will have to team up with her love rival to save Ron in the final battle.

Draco needs some love in this discussion. While he's constantly getting new Grungusts, I would personally like him to end up with a Thrudgelmir after getting out of his Imperius curse in book 7. In the final battle where he and his parents defect against Voldemort, he rejoins Hogwarts.

edited 4th Feb '11 5:53:30 AM by Izaak

Elemental Lords of the Most Noble house of Black? Rivalry between cousins because Bellatrix always expected Sirius to get the Shiroga and he turned it down, making her feel like she never earned the unit. Sirius taking the Cybuster despite the fact the family keeps it locked away and says it isn't for them to use.

James Potter chosen as the first pilot of the Gespenst S alongside Lily Evans in her Gespenst R under Snape’s Wildschwein.

Could see stuff like that in Snape’s pensive.

Machine Cells in his Grungust Type-3, given a new collosal blade by Turn-Coat Severus and strapped in armor like Wodan Ymir.

I could actually see Draco killing his father, mostly Narcissa pulls a Lemon and free's Draco from the curse and armor because she can already tell he's trying to break it and go back to his friends. Lucius pursues them however and 'shoots down' the Weiss Saber. The Thudgelmir escapes and Lucius pledges to serve Voldemort until the end, knowing that if he just ran with them they would most likely be caught.

Father vs Son with Draco thinking his Father has killed his mother, hits him with the sword that smites evil and "Thank you..." Draco commits patricide and screams in anguish after all the shit he's been through in the past two books. The next time he faces down the Death Army

"If you know who I am simply by gazing upon this sword, then there is no need to say my name. If you do not know who I am simply by gazing upon this sword then YOU DON'T DESERVE TO KNOW MY NAME" and upon meeting Bellatrix in battle (not the final battle obviously) "I am Draco! Draco Malfoy! I am the Sword of Lucius Malfoy! THE SWORD THAT SMITES EVIL!"

Don't forget THERE IS NOTHING MY COLOSSAL BLADE CANNOT CUT. I love this idea; it gives a much better ending since Lucius kind of got off scotch free in the books; this makes us more sympathetic to him and shows us that he actually loves Draco.

I wonder if anyone would want to draw any parts of the ideas that have been put out. Seriously, this might be one of the best project ideas I've ever seen on /m/, much less the Internet.

A couple questions, however:

• Piloting: Now, reinforcing the fact that the models are all Magitek, how should the Aces pilot them? Would it be like G Gundam, with the full body movement, or something different? Somehow, I can't imagine them sitting down in a standard Gundam cockpit, with helmets and suits.

• Pilot is in a spherical capsule, a little bigger than the pilot
• Depending on the views from each model, the front half of the sphere can see a bigger picture than just the standard windows of the cockpits.
• Lots of either holograms or something similar, controlling the model [how? Sentai-style, using an implement? Holding onto an orb? Holographic pilot controls?]
• Pilot Suits would probably be more decorated than standard suits, with medals/ribbons from previous battles. I would think that the Hogwarts suit wouldn't be black anymore, probably would be colored according to which squad each pilot was in.

I was thinking some like the obvious MA style Lions and Giganspada units would be piloted with an actual control scheme, probably the Excellence as well. But the Gespenst, Guarlions and Armorlions with a much larger range of movement would be controlled with a mobile trace type system.

There are of course unique control schemes, the Astranagent is controlled by suspending the pilot in a Zero-G enviroment which reads their thoughts and projects the battle around them. Later on like the 4th book Snape has the machine fitted with a special helmet that injects morphine into his system so he can ignore the pain ravaging his body past the 10 minute limit. The downside is even with morphine he's near screaming for his life when he exceeds the limit and his body is being pushed far beyond what it should be capable of.

I dunno about pilot suits but I do see uniform, I can't see the robes on anyone but Dumbledore though.

I suppose that would work. For special abilities, though, like Ron's Chess System and others, perhaps that's when they use their "wands" (or whatever the equivalent is)? I dunno. :l Still would like to see art of just the M Cs.

I say for stuff like that they put their wands into a special slot and chant an incantation, let’s use the Chess system as an example, the inside of the Gespenst becomes checkered with his drones occupying spaces and enemy targets constantly on the move which allows him to direct them better.

Also thinking GR Armageddon style hand controls in the cockpit, for some tactile feedback

edited 4th Feb '11 6:22:54 AM by Izaak

Snape upgrades the Astranagant to the Dis Astranagant mid-fight changing his allegiance back to Hogwarts he strikes at the Kaiser Ephase but is nearly killed for his efforts.

Losing his sight he takes Harry’s hand and starts talking to James, Lily and Sirius, sorry that he's the last one arriving but he had some things to take care of on earth. James (or his hallucinations of his former comrades) chasticises him for being late as usual despite being the squad commander, asking if he sorted everything before showing up. Snape admits there is a lot he wants to teach the people he's leaving behind but at some point they have to learn for themselves saying 7 years is entirely too short. The friends pass on their words of encouragement to Harry telling him that most likely the entire ship will be looking at him for support, to always stand strong a firm, to make sure he makes time for those around him and to not be in such a rush to join them. He has all the time in the world after all.

As Snape dies the last of the first PT Squadron has passed on a Lupin onboard Hogwarts and acting as captain admits that he didn't actually make the passing grade, that Sirius, Lily, Snape and James often brought him along because they felt like it. That with this the last of his friends has gone leaving him all alone to clean up the mess they caused with their wild antics the same as always.

“The Marauders”: The first PT Squadron developed at Hogwarts with the base Wildschweisen, Gespenst R and Gespenst S units being developed from the provided Lord of Elemental Wind Cybuster.

At first Snape and James don't really care much about joining the squad until they see Lily sign up for the R and both rush to sign up for the S. James wins but Severus is given the Wildschwein. They are introduced to Sirius Black who is the only one who can pilot the Cybuster and the forming of Hogwarts’ first PT Squadron happened in a dingy little hanger with a drunk, a bookworm, a jerk and a ditz. Lupin tells that Snape was a jerk back then too, often being nastier then he was to the pilots in the 3rd year since this would take place in book 3. However Lily, James and Sirius chipped away at that until he was another one of their group. Lupin describes himself as a background support type of guy who was never really good enough to cut it on the front lines.

For the whole book Lupin leaves it a mystery as to why Snape regressed back into a jackass until Harry overhears the teachers discuss it at Hogsmeade. Snape blamed himself for Sirius 'going crazy' and the Potters dying; at the time shouting they could have lived if he had been there or if he could see the future. It was at the same time he began to fail to connect with his mecha and cause him great pain just by booting up the systems. Snape never wanted to fail the new kids like he had 'failed' his old friends.

In the 6th book Snape asks Harry if he's willing to kill Draco who they have no reason to believe isn't working for the Death Army of his own free will. Harry vehemently stands by his defense that Draco is being controlled and would never turn on them and Snape asks if that means he's unwilling to kill any Death Army soldier pointing out that many of them, including Bellatrix Lestrange had been normal at one point in their life, after all the torture, memory alterations and curses how much was left of each person that Harry killed every time he fought. If Draco was under control does that mean there was anything LEFT of Draco to save and wouldn't killing him be merciful?

Snape is setting this up so Harry would not hesitate to attempt to kill him at the end of the book, convincing Voldemort he was truly on his side.

I realize me kind of harp on the Snape character as some sort of chessmaster, but I just found it off that he's this unknown brave hero... but his motivations were all personal and not the greater good or anything like that. There's no excuse for his dickery basically.

Since he's a dick to all the squads he treats them all fairly and he never purposely hounds and mistreats one of his pilots, nor would he probably be able to bring himself to.

Speaking of Draco's capture, this should be a big "We're boned" moment in universe, the Excellence is testing a new frame, has the cockpit torn from is Mazinger Z style and the frame is turned into a new weapon for the Death Army (Excellence Eternal) Draco and the Grungust Type 3 are captured. The Astelion, Vorlent and Alteisen are wrecked beyond a simple fix job, and the King Gespenst has its cockpit crushed leaving the question if Ron will even is able to walk or move anymore if he ever recovers. The only standing pilot after the dust settles is NEVILLE who feels he failed the most because he's the HUFFLEPUFF who's supposed to be defending them from danger. To be left standing while his comrades are broken and helpless means he failed his duty and failed his friends.

In short: the entire ace squad is defeated, one of their most powerful pilots is captured and physical and morale blow has been dealt.

So this would be the end of book 6? This would be a good time for UPGRADES everywhere. Have Lavender agree that she lost to Hermione in pursuing Ron and they both will work together in the Hyperlion. Ron, while out of commission, would be able to think up plans to upgrade his Gespenst. Ginny will do the same thing as Kyosuke and get the Riese, but instead of a Tesla Drive she'll get a magic powered engine that lets the Riese stand, probably developed with the help of the Quidditch team. Neville's Ganduro will need some sort of new upgrade, maybe something that isn't in the series, like a pair of shields in place of its anchors, and generally more armor overall, as well as having one of those magic engines that was strapped onto Ginny's Riese. This would be the time for Harry's Lightning frame too, right?

Ah my idea for Hermione was much different

My idea was when she left to seek help from the muggles she returned in disguise (including Sunglasses and straightened, coloured hair) in an Exbein leading Huckbein Mk. II M Ps going under a codename (like Aurora Borelias, because you just know they wouldn't get that she was just naming a Phenomenom) being a general dick to Harry and antagonistic to the remaining Aces.

When she finally is revealed she tells them that she hid her identity so the Death Army would still think she was seeking Muggle help, that way they would attack Muggle Bases and make them more likely to agree to aid her.

She even admits it was a rather cruel thing to do since many pilots probably died defending against the Death Army and it eats her up inside, but she had to get their help. She's stuffing the rules to save her friends in short; even if that means doing something evil (Though you could argue that she never gave reason for the Death Army to target any specific base, so while she was absent she never gave them reason to attack).

>Disguise Hermione

>Give her Sunglasses

>Give Exbein

>Have her act under a fake name

>Watch audience call her Mary Sue OC

Seriously though an Exbein and Sunglasses pretty much screams to any mecha savvy person "Quattro!"

I like the idea of the Philosophers stone being kept at Hogwarts still, if you need a reason why the entire area has become the Macross 7 consider that they took off for the first time because the Death Army attacked them. Staying in one position certainly wasn't helping defend the stone so the best course of action was to force the Death Army to lose resources chasing them.

Book 1: Hogwarts flies, introduction to our main five aces, world building, defending the Philosophers Stone inside Hogwarts

Book 2: Something is petrifying the pilots, investigating the ruins of the world, discovery of the Chokijin. Basilisk merges with Ginny's Gespenst, introduction of the final 2 'Main' Characters

Book 3: Delving into the past a bit, introduction of Lupin who will be remaining part of the cast as the XO, introducing the Elemental Lords concept and comparing it to the Chokijin, first bits of tension between the Ministry and Hogwarts.

Book 4: Ships Durmstrang and Beauxbatons (I have no fucking clue if this is spelled right) join with Hogwarts to go on a massive sting against the Death Army. Introduction of the Ashsavers, Voldemort is finally cured of his cycle and kills Cedric Diggory (Established in Book 1 so people actually give a fuck) as well as swaying Pansy Parkinson over to his side and recovering Bellatrix (who had been without her memory on board Hogwarts) as well as bolstering his numbers with defectors from the ministry.

While there is a war going on, it wouldn't be out of place to hold a morale booster in having the Tri-Wizard tournament, I hope. It was the main point of the book, and it would be like an overall school festival arc, or more like the Gekiganger day in Nadesico. The challenges would be mecha-related; everyone will be using standardized mecha such as Lions or Gespenst Mk 2 Ms. Here we start to get into LOVE DRAMA as well with the appearance of the Patil twins as Harry and Ron's dates, Cho and Cedric, and Hermione and Krum. Maybe introduce the Fairlions here as the standardized mecha for the girl participants.

Book 5: The Ministry in full paranoia mode starts an Inquisition on Hogwarts (separated from the other two ships) and places a high ranking official within the officers. The introduction of the Vorlent. Sirus and Bellatrix duel with their Elemental Lords and the Shuroga is Destroyed, the Cybuster blows up with Sirius still inside. Hermione suggests aligning with the Muggle Military. Umbridge grounds Hogwarts and leaves it open to constant Death Army attack Book 6: A race to get Hogwarts back in the air, the ace's are all defeated, Draco is captured, an Excellence frame is stolen, Hermione abandons the ship to seek military aid. Dumbledore is killed, Snape defects to Voldemort leaving Lupin the captain. Kaiser Ephes is revealed Book 7: The big final battle, other ships join Hogwarts forming the Last Battalion, Draco is freed by Narcissa and Lucius, Bella's old personality is resurfacing and she's given the Excellence Eternal. Voldemort magical nukes London killing the main headquarters of the Ministry of Magic. Lupin makes an alliance with the muggles. Love is Confessed, celebrations are had, forgiveness, hatred, emotions across the spectrum.

Umbridge will probably limit the training of the students so they'll still have Dumbledore's Army in the Hangar of Requirement. That seemed like an important part of the book for me, and lets us see more of Umbridge's massive bitchiness that we all love to hate. The aces can learn new techniques and team attacks here, like REAL (WO?)MEN RIDE EACH OTHER, Rampage Ghost, Weasly Formation, Trio formation, Draco & Co, etc, etc.

edited 4th Feb '11 6:52:10 AM by Izaak