Super Smash Bros.

Poor Hero, saves Link from evil clones but gets overshadowed by a bear and bird

Poor Bowser, just wanted to help out with the presentation but got kicked out by Doug

Poor Luigi, he fell for the fake building prize for the third freaking time.

Poor Ganondorf, he's a dessicated corpse.

Poor Link, gets stuck on an island again

Poor Travis, he just wanted to watch skeevy anime but the empire struck back on Independence Day.

You know, Banjo-Kazooie does fit the "All Ultimate Newcomers are misfits" narrative. (Isabelle, Ken, and Incineroar are the exceptions.)

For how this works:

• Daisy is mostly a spin-off character.
• Chrom is overshadowed by his daughter and friend.
• Ridley is from a dormant franchise, and there's the "too big" thing.
• Dark Samus is only in the Metroid Prime series, and died in the third.
• King K. Rool hadn't been in a game since 2008.
• Simon and Richter are ignored in favor of other Catlevania protagonists.
• Inklings' material represent the Wii U, a failed console.
• Plant is just a minion that nobody would expect
• Joker is part of a spinoff series that hasn't been on a Nintendo console before. And in Persona 5, his character is a misfit.
• Banjo-Kazooie also have been gone for a long time, and aren't even Nintendo characters! In fact they are the first playable characters in Smash from a franchise by a non-Japanese developer. (Diddy, King K. Rool, and Dark Samus were created by non-Japanese for an existing franchise.)

(Does DQ Hero fit?)

Edited by Smasher on Jun 11th 2019 at 7:41:59 AM

That's a stretch.

I'd say DQ Hero being a phenomenon in only one country while niche everywhere else does kind of make them a misfit.

Inklings and Splatoon represent the Wii U? Eh, a stretch. Splatoon 2 is on Switch and just as popular and successful as the original if not more.

Most of the Splatoon-based content in Ultimate is from the first game, for the Wii U.

That doesn’t mean the franchise represents the Wii U. The Wii U was the platform, but other than that it’s irrelevant. The franchise debuted on the console and then moved on.

Edited by ILikeRobots on Jun 11th 2019 at 4:40:12 AM

It's mostly a way to tie them to the narrative. Admittedly it's a stretch.

Edited by Smasher on Jun 11th 2019 at 7:42:27 AM

That "narrative" is actually dumb.

It’s shoehorning. Because they don’t fit that narrative. Splatoon is a hit in America and Japan, it’s hardly a “misfit,” and just using content from the first game means nothing.

By that logic you could call Link a misfit that represents the console because that particular Link debuted on the Wii U and there’s BOTW content in the game. But that makes no sense. The console is irrelevant in both cases.

Edited by ILikeRobots on Jun 11th 2019 at 4:45:51 AM

All patterns are stretches

Joker's game is so hot it has at least 3 spinoffs and a remake coming out. Dragon Quest is the one of the most popular and influential RPG's ever. And Chrom is the main character in the Fire Emblem game that put the series on the map.

Misfits my ass.

I highly doubt there's a theme for newcomers beyond Nintendo wanting them in the game. They probably don't even care if you want them in the game, just that they want them.

Well, they do care that the DL Cs sell, and sell Ultimate and Switch as well if possible. We're not likely to see something nobody wanted like Piranha Plant in DLC.

I bet the third time they do the "pretending to be a new character in the trailer" gag, there won't actually be a new character.

x4 Pretty much. I don't even care that much for DQ but people really are shitting on it way too much without understanding that IT IS noteworthy enough to be in smash. For fucks sake, this is a JAPANESE made series, of course they're going to put in a char that appeals to Japan as well.

And yes Banjo does also count with the DQ hero, because BK is liked in Japan as well. Hell, it was even trending over DQ Hero's announcement, which is what suprised me.

Edited by AlphaVII on Jun 11th 2019 at 8:03:23 AM

x5 Half the time...people just refusing to see what is there.

Half the time, just building something from nothing...or something.

Ya think Gruntilda will ask Bayo about how she is so good-looking?

There's honestly no misfits.

They're all unique and interesting games in their own right. Or have a massive influence in gaming as a series.

It's goddamn Dragon Quest. It's the rpg that was used to build tons of console ones later on. Sure, they didn't choose the original hero(from 1) as the base, but that doesn't matter. They chose a highly recognizable face worldwide, and that's great for all. With some very good alts.

I do wish the alts were a bit better, sure, but what you going to do.