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Saya1 Werefox from Multiverse Since: Oct, 2011
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#4576: Mar 24th 2014 at 2:48:12 PM

Given that it's a sequel. That means 100% that Starscream lived at the end of the last series. As there is no way he won't be in this show.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#4577: Mar 24th 2014 at 5:35:37 PM

[up]Season three of the original series likes to point out that Starscream was only in two eps of that series after his death in the Movie.

One Strip! One Strip!
Saya1 Werefox from Multiverse Since: Oct, 2011
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#4578: Mar 24th 2014 at 5:40:54 PM

[up]But he still showed up and unlike Prime he was shown to have died back in the first series. As he di not die on screen he is likely still alive and I am betting he will be a villain in the new show.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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CobraPrime Sharknado Warning from Canada Since: Dec, 1969 Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#4580: Mar 25th 2014 at 8:10:30 AM

I hope he's not. The show needs a decent villain. Not Starscream's "Captain Failure"

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#4581: Mar 25th 2014 at 8:44:59 AM

have they ever explaiend what happened to Airachnid?

Handsomerob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#4583: Mar 25th 2014 at 9:07:36 AM

I would put money on her showing up in the new show.

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Coheed The Crowing... caw, caw from Canada Since: Jul, 2013
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#4584: Mar 25th 2014 at 9:27:14 AM

I think it was said in the DVD commentary that Predaking did in fact kill Starscream as scripted.

In a way I hope Starscream doesn't appear in the new series, not because I think he's overused, hell I love the guy. It's just because of what he became halfway through season 2 and into 3.

First Season Starscream was great, he could be funny when he wanted to, he could be threatening when he wanted to, his bold statement of "I am Starscream, servant to no one." was also a great piece of development for the character.

Unfortunately, his role in season two was botched when he failed time and time again. It made him appear less of a protagonist for us to follow and more of a pitiful villain we were supposed to point and laugh at. It was worse when he bought his allegiance to Megatron back with the keys as it completely squanders his bold statement back in season 1. He was purely comedy relief in Season 3 and ultimately received a death suitable for the pitiful underling rather than the threatening and significant antagonist that we followed through season 1.

I don't Hasbro necessarily NEEDS Starscream either as we already know he won't be present in the new movie. Chances are -and this is what I'm hoping- we'll be getting a brand new cast of villains. Possibly Lockdown or Galvatron as a ways to mirror the movie.

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#4586: Mar 25th 2014 at 10:54:09 AM

Still on the moon.

Provided she didn't die of starvation.

Saya1 Werefox from Multiverse Since: Oct, 2011
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#4587: Mar 25th 2014 at 1:28:43 PM

Starscream was perfectly competent whenever he was not trying to compete with someone. Anyway I am sure he will show up as his fate was open ended.

edited 25th Mar '14 1:30:29 PM by Saya1

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#4588: Mar 25th 2014 at 7:27:16 PM

Indeed.

When he wasn't focused on being the big man on the Nemesis and kept his ego out of the equation, he was a forced to be reckoned with.

The problem was that HE'S STARSCREAM. Even when he's not being his traitorous self, his ego is always part of the equation.

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#4589: Mar 27th 2014 at 6:43:52 PM

[up] The problem is that even when he did that, the writers often still conspired to have him fail.

His plan to use Wheeljack to track the autobots in season 3 was brilliant. But Wheeljack's the one autobot who actually would think of checking for a tracker in himself. Which Starscream had no way to know. He could've pulled this on any other member of Team Prime and he'd have succeeded. One can point to several moments like this where he's brilliant, but foiled by circumstances outside his control.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#4590: Mar 27th 2014 at 7:31:37 PM

[up]

And of course, since Megatron only likes and trusts Soundwave (and probably Shockwave), Starscream looks like a complete idiot despite numerous instances of competence on his part.

Though to be frank, Starscream probably needs something to keep him nerfed, otherwise he'd be killing Autobots left and right with nothing to stop him.

This is likely why he's both the least physically capable Starscream in the whole franchise, and also the unluckiest. It's likely meant to be a counter to his greater competence overall.

It ain't exactly fair, but that's how it goes sometimes.

edited 28th Mar '14 8:38:52 AM by HandsomeRob

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Saya1 Werefox from Multiverse Since: Oct, 2011
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#4591: Mar 27th 2014 at 7:58:06 PM

[up][up]But he did that to try and outshine Shockwave which is why he failed.

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#4592: Mar 28th 2014 at 5:51:32 AM

[up]How is that a justification for the plan failing due to circumstances out his control?

"You did that for reason X. Therefore clearly the powers that be demand it must fail. Your reasons were not pure!"

Honestly I hope as hell Starscream's not in the new series. He was the least interesting of the Decepticon by the end of the show.

edited 28th Mar '14 5:52:08 AM by CobraPrime

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#4593: Apr 13th 2014 at 12:16:21 PM

Promo image.

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KingKix Typing the internet since '90 from Dante City Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#4594: Apr 13th 2014 at 12:37:00 PM

So it'll be in 2D now? Transformers Animated has a spiritual successor after all.

Only one year away? Crap, that's long.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#4595: Apr 13th 2014 at 12:44:04 PM

[up]

You know what I think would be awesome for this show? Having Titmouse animate it.

edited 13th Apr '14 12:48:10 PM by TargetmasterJoe

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Typing the internet since '90
#4596: Apr 13th 2014 at 4:40:50 PM

You say that about every 2D series, I bet. Also, I think they already have found their animation crew judging by that poster.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#4597: Apr 13th 2014 at 4:59:31 PM

You say that about every 2D series, I bet.

Is that a bad thing?

I just figured that because it looks like it'll be animated with Flash or something and IIRC, Titmouse is one of the best users of Flash animation. I mean, have you seen their stuff?

Speaking of Titmouse, exactly how do they animate with Flash? I remember reading or watching somewhere that they animate the heads of the characters separately from the body, but what else do they do?

KingKix Typing the internet since '90 from Dante City Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Typing the internet since '90
#4598: Apr 13th 2014 at 6:40:28 PM

Not bad, but you refere to it often.

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Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
What?
#4599: Apr 13th 2014 at 6:57:12 PM

I hope this series doesn't waste the opportunity for (super)human vs Transformers fights.

Particularly, slowly hacking off limbs or shredding their innards. By hand.

CobraPrime Sharknado Warning from Canada Since: Dec, 1969 Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#4600: Apr 14th 2014 at 7:44:19 AM

Oh look, an Optimus. Called it.

Begin Optimus Resurrection Countdown!

(Also Amazed Optimus got a new body while dead)

I hope this series doesn't waste the opportunity for (super)human vs Transformers fights.

Is the show even based on earth? Coz that poster looks like Cybertron.

Also as it was mentioned on Twitter by one of the Animators, Bumblebee's design seen here is different from the one with the press release.

edited 14th Apr '14 7:48:02 AM by CobraPrime


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