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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#3551: Oct 12th 2014 at 2:07:50 PM

...The Saiyans wiped them out, and Frieza wiped them out, so fairly low on the totem pole.

We only saw the Tuffles firing beam weapons in on the OV As I think. But they were all murdered during one of the Saiyans' onslaughts, and I don't think it was said if they were easy prey or not.

Regardless, Raichi's technology enabled him to create a warrior able to match multiple SSJ's in combat. Tuffles are in that gray area where due to their advanced technology, if you gave them X number of years to live, you can write them to be as Strong as They Need to Be.

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#3552: Oct 12th 2014 at 6:48:01 PM

The tuffles were also the ones who made Baby. But Multiverse doesn't seem to be using most of GT stuff.

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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#3553: Oct 13th 2014 at 3:11:23 AM

Well, that was more or less expected. I still hope this is the last we get to see of Raichi, though. I simply don't enjoy watching him, and now we've basically seen his entire bag of tricks.

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#3554: Oct 13th 2014 at 6:57:33 AM

He did provide one hell of a show - I'd enjoy it more, if we got see others' reactions to seeing the dead fighters again.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3555: Oct 13th 2014 at 11:31:09 AM

What?

Videl being forced to watch her daughter die again (after riding on the shoulder of the man who killed her) wasn't enough for you?

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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#3556: Oct 13th 2014 at 1:23:57 PM

[up][up]I'd say it was Prince Vegeta giving the show this time, but I suppose it takes two to tango.

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#3557: Oct 13th 2014 at 3:30:28 PM

Raichi might've been a bit OP with his ability to make you have to fight your friends and family unless he went up against a total psychopath like Vegeta.

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#3558: Oct 13th 2014 at 9:04:05 PM

[up][up][up][up]

And now a piece of me dies on the inside.

Well, Bido and Cell and U19 at least.

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#3559: Oct 15th 2014 at 11:33:53 AM

They're both in trouble!

Oh now this is just delicious.

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#3560: Oct 15th 2014 at 11:35:24 AM

Wait, is that universe 3 Vegeta?

Also, I really can't get over how much better Ghost Saiyan armor looks. Like, Holy balls.

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siriel Since: Dec, 2009
#3561: Oct 15th 2014 at 12:51:09 PM

Well, that explains why he wasn't around earlier; Raichi was keeping him for the finisher. That's fairly neat.

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#3562: Oct 15th 2014 at 2:44:34 PM

I really hope Vegeta bullshits some way out of this. It would be kind of stupid if he did all that just to lose.

Handsomerob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3563: Oct 15th 2014 at 3:11:03 PM

Guess he did have something in reserve. Smart on Raichi's part.

[up] Well have to wait and see, but I think Vegeta is done for.

Actually, I kinda want Raichi to go on. There may be a chance for him to fight Universe 18 Goku or Vegeta, and in the case of the latter, I'd want to see how he'd react if he fought a different version of the same man, and saw how different Saiyans in one universe were from others.

edited 15th Oct '14 3:16:46 PM by Handsomerob

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morenohijazo Forofgold power! from Zaragoza, Spain Since: Nov, 2009
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#3564: Oct 15th 2014 at 6:03:07 PM

From what we've seen, that Vegeta ghost seems the only thing Raichi could throw at Bardock (before the tournament, that is). All of his other ghosts seem inferior to U3 Bardock (unless that Cold ghost could transform, but it didn't show that, and even then, Bardock seems clever enough to do exactly what U13 Vegeta did).

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#3565: Oct 15th 2014 at 6:44:46 PM

[up][up]He'd have to get through Bra and XXI/Zen Buu first though, since the only way for him to fight a Goku or Vegeta again will be the finals.

Siriel Since: Dec, 2009
#3566: Oct 15th 2014 at 9:04:52 PM

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He had Broly too. And a whole bunch of Oozarus; they weren't much use against a SSJ 2, but against Bardock the stronger ones might be able to cause trouble.

edited 15th Oct '14 9:05:54 PM by Siriel

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#3567: Oct 16th 2014 at 12:29:49 AM

Bojack and the Cell Jnr would also be out of Bardock's league.

Siriel Since: Dec, 2009
#3568: Oct 16th 2014 at 9:15:42 AM

He was talking about before the tournament. Obviously Raichi at this point should destroy Bardock with ease.

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#3570: Oct 17th 2014 at 11:03:24 AM

Well, Kakarot was awesome, and all of King Piccolo's dialog is awful. Got it.

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#3571: Oct 17th 2014 at 11:39:22 AM

Actually, I think he just kidney-punched the fourth wall there...

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Handsomerob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3572: Oct 17th 2014 at 12:35:22 PM

And Raichi is still in.

Curious to see what's in store for him considering his hatred for Saiyans and all that.

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#3573: Oct 18th 2014 at 7:03:04 AM

Probably won't make it past next round. He's going to face the winner of this match, which is probably going to be Gast.

Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#3574: Oct 18th 2014 at 7:32:33 AM

I was actually thinking a bit about this next match. I'm about to engage in some wild mass guess

The most obvious answer to the match is that Gast is going to crush Piccolo easily. It's such an obvious answer that it almost seems too simple of an end for Piccolo when he's the one on the cover (along with all the time he spent hidden). That goes double for an villain that's had access to the dragon balls for years (maybe without Goku around, the humans weren't rallied the same way they were in the normal story, reducing their overall threat and lessening Piccolo's motivation to kill the dragon).

Some have guessed that Piccolo might have forcibly absorbed Kami at some point, in order to make him a credible threat for this tournament (where he'd have a need to do that in his universe is another question). Where would he get such a method without losing his evil? If he did learn something like that, could he do it again? How dangerous would Piccolo be if he had strength of all the Namekians?

Gast has spent most of the story being built up as one of the single strongest competitors, and he's been established as one of the few able to keep Buu in check. He almost comes off as Too Powerful to Live, as if he were being set up to be a Sacrificial Lion for when the story needs to get more serious/dramatic. I feel like he's going to die at some point to create tension.

wild mass guess/

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#3575: Oct 18th 2014 at 7:33:12 AM

I wonder what Demon King Piccolo can even do in this particular match-up. Except for getting humiliated, of course.

I do hope they come up with something interesting, or people might be left wondering why this fight is the one that got top billing for the chapter.


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