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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#30951: Nov 26th 2018 at 3:40:58 AM

I imagine that Rowboat Growlyman may be somewhat mollified by the fact that he knows 100% that Calgar was created with his gene-seed. At least part of his opposition to Cawl's experiments came from the fact that Cawl suggested using the gene-seed of the Traitor Legions as well, much to Guilliman's opposition.

...Of course, Cawl probably went ahead and did it anyway just to see what would happen. At least with Calgar he can be sure there isn't some traitor soup involved in the process.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#30952: Nov 26th 2018 at 7:12:23 AM

Sons of the Phoenix, anyone?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30953: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:05:25 AM

Quick question. The current quote for the Black Legion as a whole on the character page is actually a quote about Abaddon. Should this be changed to something about the legion itself? I was thinking the following:

Who pledged his Loyalty? The Warmaster
Whom dd we serve in Faith? The Warmaster
From whom did we take our name? The Warmaster
Who was denied us? The Warmaster
But whom shall we remake? The Warmaster
And who shall lead us to victory? The Warmaster
— Catechism of the Black Legion

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#30954: Nov 26th 2018 at 11:38:33 AM

[up] I'm good with that if there's not something that's more concise and just as fitting.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30955: Nov 27th 2018 at 12:32:29 AM

[up]It is a bit wordy but it is the best I can find. I will go ahead and make the change.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30956: Dec 3rd 2018 at 1:44:12 AM

I've changed the pic of Deathleaper on the 'Nid page from the artwork to the model if that is okay. On a similar note Ghazghkull got a new colour scheme for the new Codex so do people think his pic should be changed to the new one?

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#30957: Dec 3rd 2018 at 9:57:03 AM

[up] I’d be down for that, if only because the new paint job is a bit more clean than the old one.

The new Titan should probably be mentioned on the Mechanicus page in some capacity.

Edited by Willbyr on Dec 3rd 2018 at 12:12:13 PM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30958: Dec 3rd 2018 at 11:09:46 AM

[up]Changed the pic. I'll have a look at the background material for the new Titan and see how it could be fitted in.

In other news this weekend's pre-orders

Vigilus Defiant campaign book

Primaris Calgar & Honour Guard

Haarken Worldclaimer, Herald of the Apocalypse and Proclamator of Abaddon’s Reign

Chapter Approved 2018 with rules for Ork Looted Wagons, the Eight of the Farsight Enclaves, and the beta version of Codex: Adepta Sororitas

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30959: Dec 4th 2018 at 2:04:56 AM

[up][up]I've added a couple of bits for the Warbringer Nemesis to the Adeptus Mechanicus page.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30960: Dec 4th 2018 at 7:46:48 AM

Sorry for the triple post but I have another question. Today I edited the Space Marine entry on their character page to remove the reference to GW attempting to copyright the term and to actually put some in-universe context to the trope. The troper marcoasalazarm has since put the reference back. I have PMed the troper in question to say that such information should be put on the main Games Workshop page, not the Astartes character page as it is not pertinent to the Astartes themselves and was wondering if others agreed with me.

bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#30961: Dec 4th 2018 at 7:56:25 AM

Discussions of copyright renaming are pertinent to GW, not the marines themselves.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#30962: Dec 4th 2018 at 8:34:20 AM

Yeah, that's probably better suited for GW's page, and it may already be there.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30963: Dec 4th 2018 at 9:51:16 AM

Cool. As I said, I did PM the troper in question but haven't heard back yet (its only been a couple of hours though) so I will see if they get back to me on the issue (in addition I don't know if me deleting that section would count as an edit war).

In other news rules previews for Haarken Worldclaimer & Calgar.

Haarken: M 12" WS 2+ BS 2+ S 4 T 4 W 5 A 5 Ld 9 Sv 3+/4+ Special Rules - Lord of the Raptors: Raptors within 6" re-roll hit rolls with melee weapons; Head-claimer: +1 A for every Character he kills. Weapons - Lightning Claw & Helspear (Range 12"; Type Assault 1; S +1; AP -3; D D3)

Calgar: M 6" WS 2+ BS 2+ S 4 T 5 W 8 A 6 Ld 9 Sv 2+/4+ Special Rules - Chapter Master: Ultramarines within 6" re-roll failed to hit rolls. Warlord Trait - Adept of the Codex: Refund CP on a 5+ whenever one is used. Weapons - Gauntlets of Ultramar (Shooting - Range 24"; Type Rapid Fire 2; S 4; AP -1; D 2. Melee - S +2; AP -3; D D3)

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 4th 2018 at 5:54:49 PM

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#30964: Dec 5th 2018 at 9:59:39 AM

I was wondering, do the current rules have an equivalent for 5E BS6 and above?

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#30965: Dec 5th 2018 at 10:55:44 AM

Other than flat rerolls, not as far as I know.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#30966: Dec 5th 2018 at 3:42:06 PM

What effect did that have outside of hitting on 2s?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#30967: Dec 5th 2018 at 4:22:06 PM

[up] Basically, if you missed, you got to roll again and on a 6+ at BS 6 (getting better as your BS climbed towards 10) you'd hit anyway.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#30968: Dec 5th 2018 at 4:29:35 PM

[up]That. Was also very amusing with the assassins, since a Vindicare hit on a 2+ and got a 50% reroll on a 1, raising accuracy on their awesome rifle from 83.3% to about 91.6% or so. Not as good as a master crafted weapon with an ROF of 1, but very nice all the same.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30969: Dec 6th 2018 at 12:59:34 AM

I was wondering, do the current rules have an equivalent for 5E BS 6 and above?

As others have said, that isn't a thing any more but all characters with aura abilities are affected by their own ability so Calgar's Chapter Master ability gives himself a reroll on to hit rolls for example.

Going back to the Space Marine entry I mentioned previously. The troper who re-added the GW copyright attempt hasn't replied to my PM but, judging from their edits history, has been around making other edits. As a couple of other people here have said this was an inappropriate place to put this information I am guessing it should be moved from the Astartes character page but I don't know if it would count as an edit war if I removed it myself as I already removed it before marcoasalazarm put it back.

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 6th 2018 at 9:00:01 AM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#30970: Dec 6th 2018 at 9:20:01 AM

Adepta Sororitas Chapter Approved Beta preview

Acts of Faith: Players pay a Faith Point to manifest an Act of Faith and then must roll over the Act's Devotion Value to use it, for example: The Passion - Devotion Value 5 (so a roll of 5+) The unit can fight twice in the Fight phase.

Order Convictions: Order of the Valorous Heart - Stoic Endurance - 6+ to ignore any wound; Daughters of the Ebon Chalice - Daughters of the Emperor - +1 when attempting to use Acts of Faith.

Stratagems: Suffer Not The Witch - 1 CP - Re-roll to wound rolls against Psykers; Blessed Bolts - 1 CP - storm bolters are AP -2, D 2; Vessel of the Emperor's Will - 3 CP - When an Act of Faith is successfully used on a Character, it also counts as being used on all friendly Sororitas units within 6".

Relic: Book of St. Lucius - Aura abilities have +3" range.

Warlord Trait: Indomitable Belief - Aura of Faith increased to 5+ for all units within 6"

Penitent Engines: Desperate for Redemption - Always fight twice in the Fight phase; Zealot - Re-roll to hit when charging or was charged; Berserk Killing Machines - Ignore Wounds on 5+

Edited by SebastianGray on Dec 6th 2018 at 5:20:59 PM

SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#30971: Dec 6th 2018 at 9:44:05 AM

I feel that the background and look of the Scintillan Fusiliers is perfect for a story about some sort of Picaresque Swashbuckler who tricks people into thinking he's a noble, joins the Imperial Guard and has all sorts of (mis)adventures across the galaxy.

Edited by SantosLHalper on Dec 6th 2018 at 12:46:10 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#30972: Dec 6th 2018 at 7:25:59 PM

You know, after seeing the battlefleet 2 trailer with trazin speaking....it come to me that he is pretty much a funnier version of brainiac, specially with the idea of colecting stuff.

What do yiu think?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#30973: Dec 6th 2018 at 7:35:31 PM

DCAU Brainiac was far more malevolent since he not only collected stuff, he wiped out the planets the stuff came from just to make his collection more valuable.

As far as we know Trazyn only "collects" things and people. He doesn't destroy entire worlds to enhance the value of his collection.

Edited by M84 on Dec 6th 2018 at 11:36:04 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#30974: Dec 6th 2018 at 8:11:51 PM

And DC comics Braniac has turned out to be more like the C'Tan.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#30975: Dec 6th 2018 at 11:06:26 PM

[up][up]Granted, That is because Trazin is sure those planet are going to die anyway so he didnt mind.

In fact, what faction and chararter of warhammer seing familiar to chararters in comicss?.

In general if you remove the powers, the kryptonian have a very eldar thing to me with their tech.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

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