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Oboeplum Antiheroic antivillain from somewhere really boring Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Antiheroic antivillain
#72551: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:36:01 AM

Doesn't caan say 'no more' in that episode and accidentally foreshadow day? Oh I love it when things acciddentally foreshadow later things.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#72552: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:40:59 AM

[up][up] Good job, Rose. Clearly you gave them the idea, somehow.

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imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#72553: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:44:02 AM

Hariet Jones (former Prime Minister) goes out like a boss, though.

YES-WE-KNOW-WHO-YOU-ARE

edited 14th Jan '14 8:44:29 AM by imadinosaur

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#72554: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:45:32 AM

I'd say the run from The Unicorn and the Wasp through The Stolen Earth is one of the strongest in Nu Who.

The Doctor's Daughter and Journey's End just had to ruin everything for everyone.

Partners In Crime, The Fires of Pompeii and Planet Of the Ood were pretty good too. The Sontaran Strategem and The Poison Sky though. Awful. Just awful.

...I'd say the pattern is that Martha's in the bad ones, but she's in The Stolen Earth, and that's great. So dammit, pattern doesn't fit.

I could watch Ten being shot on repeat.

edited 14th Jan '14 8:46:07 AM by unnoun

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#72555: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:47:56 AM

Well, everyone was in Stolen Earth so that probably cancels out Martha being in it.

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PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#72556: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:50:40 AM

Dalek Fred was the bravest Dalek of them all.

imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#72557: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:52:28 AM

Ah, taste's a funny thing. I hated The Unicorn and the Wasp and quite liked The Doctor's Daughter.

Donna is definitely the best nuWho companion, though. Maybe even the best ever (but then again, Ace did chin a Dalek with a baseball bat and K=9 was a fricken robot, so, hrrm...).

edited 14th Jan '14 8:54:47 AM by imadinosaur

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MusikMaestro from Ireland Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Heisenberg unreliable
#72558: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:54:38 AM

What would you guys say is the best Nu Who run?

I'd say The Eleventh Hour -> Day of The Moon. The only episode between them that I don't like is Vincent and the Doctor, and I can still see why it's good.

imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#72559: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:55:40 AM

Rose through to Parting of the Ways. 'Coward, any time.'

edited 14th Jan '14 8:56:04 AM by imadinosaur

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#72560: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:56:23 AM

I like The Doctor's Wife through Let's Kill Hitler.

GATISS!

THOMPSON!

-shakes fist-

edited 14th Jan '14 8:57:12 AM by unnoun

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#72561: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:56:38 AM

All of series 5 was very strong. The Silurian two-parter is the only real weak story.

Oh God, don't make my choose between Ace or Donna for best companion.

edited 14th Jan '14 8:56:57 AM by PurpleDalek

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#72562: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:57:06 AM

The Doctor's friends with Silence now, he can have one as a companion and Donna as a second with no repercussions!

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#72563: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:58:03 AM

The Adventures of Donna Noble and Silent Steve. And also the Doctor.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72564: Jan 14th 2014 at 8:58:52 AM

Implant a post-hypnotic suggestion in Donna's mind: "Your brain won't burn up if you remember Time Lord stuff and space travel."

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Oboeplum Antiheroic antivillain from somewhere really boring Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#72565: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:01:56 AM

I'd say series 3 was a solid run, but 42 ruins it. I think the eleventh hour to day of the moon was also good. Shame most of series 6 was a bit floppy, apart from the plot relevant ones.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#72566: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:02:32 AM

Overacting villains are a very enjoyable part of the series, I must say. Soldeed, for instance, is the best thing ever, and the Wire is the only tolerable part of The Idiot's Lantern.

Song of the Sirens
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#72568: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:04:17 AM

I dislike most of The Beast Below. I only rewatch it for everything that happens after they're taken to the Tower.

The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood I hate because the humans are awful (I like to imagine the woman in the war zone from the beginning of The Terminator explaining to her fellow humans that all of this is her fault), but that's what the story was trying to do.

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PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#72569: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:06:24 AM

The fact that the Doctor becomes chummy with the scientist Silurian who vivisected conscious humans is what really makes me hate it.

That and it screws up series 5's run of quality.

imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#72570: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:07:08 AM

I thought the humans in the Silurian two-parter acted very restrained when confronted with a bunch of genocidal fuckwits stealing their children and vivisecting them.

The main issue with that episode was the Doctor holding the humans to an impossible standard.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#72571: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:12:12 AM

You can't forget omega, a ham among hams and being a great villain in a great story. And a multi doctor one that doesn't suck, at that.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#72572: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:25:22 AM

[up][up] I think its because he kept losing the chance to save the Silurians so he really wanted this time to work out. It was a far bigger Silurian colony than he had ever encountered, I think.

Also, the rest of the episode maybe but "don't drop a giant drill on someone's head" isn't that impossible of a standard.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#72573: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:32:39 AM

The Beast Below has actually become one of my sleeper hits, hated it when it originally came out, but now I love going back to it. It's got some brilliant concepts and some great deconstruction of the Doctor, but on first viewing it wasn't clear what the threat was, because well, there wasn't one; it was a political mystery.

Hungry Earth/Cold Blood suffers from the same problem as The Almost People, it's grey and grey morality written by writers who can't show multiple sides to all these new characters. Toby Whithouse could have made those episodes a master class though. Series Five is an incredibly strong series though.

I am greatly fond of Series Three as a whole though; it just has a very concise and well explored central theme. The Doctor is lonely.

Oboeplum Antiheroic antivillain from somewhere really boring Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Antiheroic antivillain
#72574: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:40:50 AM

I dunno, I liked the later tenth doctor central theme of how his arrogance and desire to be the one who saves people leads to a lot of pain and dying. D'you think ten is a Tragic Hero?

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imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#72575: Jan 14th 2014 at 9:54:42 AM

I think that was the intention, but the execution was flawed.

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