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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#27401: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:17:22 PM

I suspect they're both real. No doppelganger, no clone, no fake.

Because it's much funnier if they make that mistake.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27402: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:19:51 PM

My bet is on alternate reality or time shenanigans.

DatLonerGirl Get heckin crabbed from a top secret place Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#27403: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:29:03 PM

And I'm going to guess that Forest!Annie is the fake, not because I believe it, but just to make sure it's on the books.

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#27404: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:29:39 PM

I suspect this as well.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
DatLonerGirl Get heckin crabbed from a top secret place Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#27405: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:36:45 PM

Oh and can't forget that she might somehow be Loup/Coyote.

You know what, let's make a list:

Alternate reality

Time shenanigans

Garden variety clone (evil or no)

Fairy in clone body/changeling

Forest Annie is the fake

Both are real

Both are fake

Robot

Loup/Coyote in disguise

A mix of the above

Did I miss anything?

Edited by DatLonerGirl on Nov 9th 2018 at 5:37:15 AM

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Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#27406: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:50:45 PM

I don't think the Annie we have been following is fake because she is the one Loup asked to stay with him. I don't think he would settle for a fake, so I assume she is real (note that this doesn't rule out both being real). Also, this is a trick that have been done before, so I don't think Tom would repeat himself.

I will also vote against alternate reality shenanigans, time travel and robot, because this is Loup's doing and so I expect something more myth-like. These are more the realm of science fiction or modern fantasy, I believe, so I think it wouldn't fit very well.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#27407: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:51:46 PM

I think he would. He might be one of those creeps that makes a mannequin of the object of their affections. This may be his version of a stalker shrine.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#27408: Nov 9th 2018 at 5:24:54 PM

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27409: Nov 9th 2018 at 6:29:29 PM

[up][up]It depends on when the clone was created. She could have been made months later. For all we know everything from Annie exiting the Ether onwards could be a different Annie. The real one would have left and gone back to report what happened.

Whatever happens I hope it's not just a case where Forest Annie is the real one and the other is a copy. That's a bit too straightforward.

Edited by Kostya on Nov 9th 2018 at 9:32:16 AM

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#27410: Nov 10th 2018 at 1:11:10 AM

Whatever happens I hope it's not just a case where Forest Annie is the real one and the other is a copy. That's a bit too straightforward.

Even if that is exactly the case, it doesn't need to be straightforward. For starter, if the other doesn't know she isn't real herself, it already brings interesting ethical complications. Furthermore, if she have been living in the Court for months with all Annie's friend then there is a whole lot of new experiences and attachments. Even if Forest Annie is the 'real' Annie, does it make a difference if the other Annie have all her memories plus have been living in the Court for longer? It is not a simple question.

Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#27411: Nov 10th 2018 at 3:52:21 AM

Dat Loner Girl, yes, a couple of wild ones:

wild mass guessOne of them is Surmawild mass guess

wild mass guessOne of them is Antimony Stibnitewild mass guess

wild mass guessAll Just a Dreamwild mass guess

wild mass guessAnnie is a Time Lordwild mass guess

wild mass guessSurma actually had twinswild mass guess

wild mass guessLoup is actually a Nice Jewish Boywild mass guess

wild mass guessOne of them is thirty-five rabbits in drag standing on each other's shoulderswild mass guess

wild mass guessEveryone is Anniewild mass guess

Edited by Millership on Nov 10th 2018 at 5:59:33 PM

Spiral out, keep going.
stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#27412: Nov 10th 2018 at 3:07:53 PM

If they're both real, what does that mean for the whole fire elemental life drain thing? Unless that has a doppleganger as well, one of them is going to start dying.

ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#27413: Nov 10th 2018 at 4:19:54 PM

It’s actually 3 little Annies in a trench coat ^^

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Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#27415: Nov 11th 2018 at 8:54:09 AM

I'm disappointed he didn't mention the 'exploded diagram' bomb more specifically.

Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.
EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#27416: Nov 11th 2018 at 8:59:53 AM

I think both Annies are real but just different in specific ways. We have Tony!Annie and Loup!Annie now.

Pachylad (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#27417: Nov 12th 2018 at 12:04:12 AM

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Edited by Pachylad on Nov 13th 2018 at 4:04:37 AM

Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
Adannor Since: May, 2010
#27419: Nov 12th 2018 at 12:11:14 AM

Looks like they both have flamey etheric projection.

Edited by Adannor on Nov 12th 2018 at 11:11:33 PM

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#27420: Nov 12th 2018 at 2:17:24 AM

Knew it.

Loup knows how to let the flame spread to another wick: same fire, two candles.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#27421: Nov 12th 2018 at 3:50:46 AM

Hey, Court Annie is wearing makeup again.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#27422: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:22:22 AM

[up]We don't know how many months have passed for sure. But, it's clearly enough for differences to start mounting up.

What bugs me about this is that this more than hints that Coyote always knew how to help the fire elemental with the flame-splitting, limited "fuel"-issue. But. Didn't.

Surma could have had herself and Annie; Tony didn't have to lock himself away... all that jazz. And, for however many times a similar story has played out for the flame. But, noooooooooooooooooooooooooo: not even a hint.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Nov 12th 2018 at 12:29:46 PM

Millership from Kazakhstan Since: Jan, 2014
#27423: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:26:27 AM

That got me thinking... Is Annie (and her family line) the only fire elemental in the whole world? If not, do they all look the same?

It's a shame we don't know what Surma's mother looked like.

Edited by Millership on Nov 12th 2018 at 6:55:19 PM

Spiral out, keep going.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27424: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:50:36 AM

The impression is that there are others. Surma's ancestor is "some manner of fire elemental" which implies a species of some kind. It does seem strange that there's no way to grow the species though. maybe they're slowly dying out for this reason.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#27425: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:04:28 AM

So... my theory might be the right one? They're both as equally real as each other?

Man this really is John Chricton from Farscape all over!


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