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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#148976: Feb 18th 2020 at 8:05:06 PM

So it's a Sarada cover for the upcoming chapter 43

Maybe it's going to be Sarada's new timeskip outfit although I doubt it.

At least, she's wearing leggings here though.

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#148977: Feb 18th 2020 at 11:00:10 PM

That colour really doesn't fit an Uchiha/ Haruno tongue

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#148978: Feb 18th 2020 at 11:01:15 PM

I don’t know why but I keep zoning in on the detail that she is as flat as a board there.

Like she has no visible breasts.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 18th 2020 at 11:04:23 AM

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#148979: Feb 18th 2020 at 11:03:29 PM

The yellow/red looks really ugly.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#148980: Feb 19th 2020 at 12:06:39 PM

The artist frequently pulls a Jojo though and does frequent color swaps for his characters.

Last chapter cover had Boruto in pink, red and brown.

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#148981: Feb 19th 2020 at 12:10:04 PM

Ukyo really likes sexualizing her. Don't know why, but but its getting weird.

Though in regards to that stupid argument about whether or not Sasuke should've had a son on twitter, nah, Sarada's a great character, the 3 man squads are already a girl squished in a dick measuring contents barring the anime exclusive teams and team Sumire/Tsubaki. No wonder there's so much h-mangas with Sakura banging Naruto, Sasuke, and Kakashi

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#148982: Feb 19th 2020 at 11:28:52 PM

[up][up] Most of the time the colors fit each other though. Like, Boruto in blue, Kawaki in blue, Kawaki in red. Sarada's usually had a primary red with a subtle yellow. Half/half just looks like an eyesore.

Although i do have to say, i do like that the illustrations do a Jojo and experiment with colors and designs. I enjoy the various takes (Boruto in blue / Kawaki in red is very nice) that we would not otherwise have. It's just that while i like the art, i don't like the coloring.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#148983: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:08:39 AM

I do have to wonder when the power levels ballooned out of control. Was it the War Arc? I think it came up in the Anime MHA thread, we were talking about where Naruto went wrong and where MHA was going wrong and the topic of how Naruto just had insane power creep was mentioned.

It came back to my mind when I was listening to Shippuden music and reflecting on the things I like from it. One of those things is Sasori. Sasori was awesome. He's also supposed to be one of the stronger Akatsuki. All the Akatsuki were supposed to be super impressive.

Not a single one of them save Itachi and Pain and Obito are anything to talk about by the end. They couldn't so much as scratch any notable fighters by then.

Remember when Four-Tailed Naruto fought Orochimaru? It was a battle of monsters. Yamato had never seen anything like this. This was a great fight and it showed us what the beasts of this setting could accomplish. But of course Oro and 4-Tailed Naruto ended up being quite low on the totem pole.

It must be the War Arc because Danzo vs. MS Sasuke was the last fight before the war that I can recall and Danzo could still hang with the best fighters we had seen up to that point. Not so once we get into the war.

It's like the Freeza situation in DBZ where Freeza is literally 1,000x stronger than his strongest subordinate so the mains have to take these insane leaps in power to get close to him and everyone else is left in the dust.

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#148984: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:44:22 AM

There is something about that yellow thing Sarada is wearing that just looks bad. The coloring, shading, lack of pop...

It would be better if it was black with a white belt. But as is, it just looks... cheap?

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Feb 20th 2020 at 1:45:27 PM

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#148985: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:45:06 AM

It's very 70's...

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#148986: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:53:30 AM

That, yeah.

It's like... didn't Bulma wear something similar for a little bit? And of course Faye from Cowboy Bebop. But it's just not as good. It's a nice outfit, except for that one color.

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#148987: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:54:54 AM

Ooop Momoshiki possessed Boruto, but at least Naruto was saved.

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#148988: Feb 20th 2020 at 11:57:17 AM

Ah wonder where he went.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#148989: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:10:55 PM

The new Boruto chapter is out.

So Boruto is literally Ichigo.

I'm cool with that.

Edited by MadSkillz on Feb 20th 2020 at 12:11:06 PM

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#148990: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:12:25 PM

Oh yeah and one of the more interesting things that I've noticed between anime and manga but Boruto's Jougan looks like a regular Byakugan in the manga.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that Boruto was supposed to have a one eyed Byakugan before the anime co-opted it, changed its design a little and called it the Jougan.

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#148991: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:14:46 PM

No veins though, even Momoshiki had them when he used it.

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#148992: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:15:22 PM

[up][up]The anime doesn't check with the manga for a lot of stuff i.e. Naruto having the wrong color chakra literally the entire anime.

Edited by Krory21 on Feb 20th 2020 at 12:15:30 PM

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#148993: Feb 20th 2020 at 12:20:59 PM

Design-wise, this is probably closer to what it was supposed to be over this

[up][up]True.

Edited by MadSkillz on Feb 20th 2020 at 12:24:02 PM

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#148994: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:20:44 PM

"I do have to wonder when the power levels ballooned out of control. "

It came with the advent of Biju as metaphors for nukes, rather than merely being powerful nature spirits. The first signs of this can be seen when Gaara defends his home against Deidara, where he uses the abilities on a far grander scale than anything in Part 1, continues with Naruto nuking a considerable portion of a forest with just 3 tails, before we get an 8-tail manifestation devastating a massive area and finally just plain nuke lobbing in the 4th war.

Part 1 has much fewer out-there powers as well, such as actual immortality or god-like powers such as Nagato's.

It's not really that there's a "point". It's more that the flaws that plague late Naruto were always there, and Kishimoto never fixed them, and so the symptoms just got worse.

Edited by devak on Feb 20th 2020 at 11:20:56 AM

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#148995: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:25:52 PM

Franchise Original Sin?

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#148996: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:38:59 PM

Essentially, yes. Naruto operates heavily on the idea that basically all forms of gaining power works. Genius? You're powerful. Innate talent? powerful. Powerful genes? Powerful. Powerful teacher? powerful. But the issue comes when characters start combining them. Lee is someone who trained to be strong, but Gaara isn't just strong, he's also skilled. As the series goes on this got worse and worse, to the point that Madara ticks off literally every box.

Biju meanwhile largely dictate how powerful people have to be. Hashirama tamed biju, so if Biju are nukes, Hashirama beat nukes. Madara was his rival so he has to be able to fight nukes and tame nukes. Minato fought the Ninetails so he needs to be able to deal with nukes. Every high-level character has to be able to deal with nukes.

Combine the two and you get a form of serial escalation that is incredibly hard to get out of. Yet it's something that you can see very early on, since every Kekkei Genkai user is incredibly powerful, members of famous clans are very powerful, people who combine the two are even more so, and geniuses of such clans are utterly unstoppable.

Edited by devak on Feb 20th 2020 at 11:40:18 AM

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#148997: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:39:11 PM

I don't think that fits. Gaara was defeated and so was Bee, kinda. Well not really but he wasn't galaxies ahead of everyone else. Never forget frickin' Hidan and Kakuzu defeated at least one Jinchuriki. So it's like...they weren't that overpowered.

The point I was making is everyone was competitive with each other to at least some degree until they weren't. Until the guys on top were so far ahead of everyone blow them that you could throw the entire Narutoverse at them and it wouldn't matter.

I don't see any reason why if Gaara can be defeated and Sasuke can fight Bee that the power levels have to go crazy where suddenly Gaara and Sasuke (pre-huge powerup) and Bee are total jokes.

Edited by Nikkolas on Feb 20th 2020 at 2:41:33 AM

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#148998: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:43:11 PM

[up] Gaara was defeated by a guy who could make a city-levelling explosion. Meanwhile the attack on Konoha during the chunin exams has no technique on such a level, despite this being two villages ganging up on one. The worst is some giant snakes. It was already there. it just wasn't really an issue until later. Even then, Naruto is the only one who can even touch Pain, so that's probably the earliest. Although Naruto solos Kakuzu despite it previously requiring at least a team, so you can also pick that as the start.

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#148999: Feb 20th 2020 at 2:48:58 PM

I'd say Susanoo might be the true turning point. The thing is blatantly made for fighting Tailed Beasts and Naruto getting a super special version where he doesn't turn into a giant fox himself like 200 chaps later just further enforces it.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#149000: Feb 20th 2020 at 3:06:12 PM

The point I was making is everyone was competitive with each other to at least some degree until they weren't. Until the guys on top were so far ahead of everyone blow them that you could throw the entire Narutoverse at them and it wouldn't matter.

Eh, that's par of the course for the final villain.

It's just that Naruto has 4 final villains between Juubito, Madara, Kaguya and Sasuke.

But Kakashi was keeping up with Obito sans Juubito in a 1 on 1 and 8 Gates Gai came close to killing even Madara.

[up][up] The Summons in Naruto were enormously powerful. Gamabunta was strong enough to fight evenly with Shukaku.

Even then, Naruto is the only one who can even touch Pain, so that's probably the earliest.

Not the actual 6 Paths of Pain. Remember that Naruto came in at an opportune time where Nagato couldn't utilize the Deva Path for a while since there was a handicap involved.

And even then Naruto lost and the 9 Tails had to bail him out again.

Naruto during the Pain Arc was still weaker than Jiraiya.

Although Naruto solos Kakuzu despite it previously requiring at least a team, so you can also pick that as the start.

Correction, he almost solo'd a tired Kakuzu. Kakashi had to take out the last heart.

Edited by MadSkillz on Feb 20th 2020 at 3:09:10 AM

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