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KilgoreTrout2013-06-24 10:37:11

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Waiting to go to Omega

This isn't going to be a full account of my playthrough of the game. I've already gone through it once as a mostly-Paragon Shepard, so I'm seeing a lot of stuff for the second time. The time to post about my initial reactions to things I didn't know were coming would have been then.

One thing I have not seen in its entirety, though, is how taking Morinth into your party makes things different. Different conversations, obviously, different dialogue on some missions, one different power...I get that as far as gameplay goes, she is mostly a Samara clone.

I'll mostly be focused on the story here. I'll be making a new post whenever Morinth does or says something noteworthy and I'll write down by reactions and thoughts about it.

But for now, let's talk about her mother. What did I think of Samara? Where to begin?

Okay, if you played ME1 then you may remember that a number of NPCs in that game had a negative view of Spectres. This was because Spectres could do whatever the fuck they wanted, they were above the law. The only way a Spectre could ever answer for what s/he did would be if the Council decided to rein them in, and the Council apparently did not do so very often.

Justicars are basically like that, only they seemingly have nobody to rein them in, not even an equivalent of the Council. There is a lot I don't know and perhaps I will learn that there is more accoutability than I think when I get to the third game. But my impression of justicars are that they are loose cannons who believe in summarily executing criminals. Their code, what I know of it, demands that they run around acting like Frank Castle. And I frickin' hate The Punisher.

The first time I saw Samara, she killed a helpless victim. That's damn cold. I'm not going to argue that Samara causes more suffering than her daughter does, because I'm sure that is not the case. But Samara does cause her fair share of suffering. Let's consider lethal force by itself and, for the moment, forget about the various reasons and justifications for it. Every time Samara or Morinth or anybody kills another person, regardless of what sort of person that was, that person had a family. That person had friends. That person had a number of people who are going to be heartbroken by their passing.

If Samara were to try to take people into custody without killing them, she would be sparing their families and friends a lot of grief. But—whether because of personal inclination or because she decided to follow her order's Code or some combination of the two—she doesn't even try.

I don't like that. On a number of occasions in ME1 and ME2, the Paragon decision involves sparing the life of a criminal instead of just gunning the criminal down in cold blood. That is what the good guys are supposed to do, in my opinion. They are supposed to avoid doing the same things as the bad guys. If a good guy kills, say, five people when there are other options and goes on to say "I am NOT as bad as the bad guys, because I kill fewer people than they do,"...fine, okay, that's true good guy, but you still murder people. People who, perhaps, might have turned over a new leaf if they'd been left alive. People who might have done what they did more due to being mentally fucked up than out of a decision to be evil just for the hell of it, and might have benefited from therapy that cured their mental problems.

Jack, for example, starts out as a dangerous killer, undoubtedly somebody who—were Samara to cross paths with her prior to both of them meeting Shepard—Samara would have attempted to execute in cold blood. Turns out that's the wrong thing to do, because guess what? Jack can be redeemed. Jack can become a better person, with Shepard's help. Jack can cease to be a threat to innocent people if somebody takes the time to try and rehabilitate her.

I'm getting off-topic here. TL;DR is I'm not fond of Samara because her go-to answer for dealing with criminals is to kill them. She usually doesn't look for other options. She never gives a satisfactory explanation (at least not in this game) why she doesn't look for other options. Even if Morinth is utterly and absolutely irredeemable and beyond saving, not everybody Samara kills is as bad as Morinth.

I've gotten Samara's side of the story via conversations with her and observation of her actions. Now I'm going to get Morinth's side of things.

Maybe I'll be surprised, maybe not.

For now, as the title says, I'm just waiting for the turning point in the story where I go to Omega and have to choose between one or the other.

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Korval Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 16th 2013 at 2:29:30 AM
You seem to have a misunderstanding of the whole "Complete Monster" thing.

A "Complete Monster" can have a personality. A "Complete Monster" can want things and sometimes even do things for others. A "Complete Monster" can even be kinda tragic in some way.

A "Complete Monster" is simply what you get when you cross the Moral Event Horizon: when a character does something so terrible that you can no longer feel any sympathy for them. And Morinth did that for me the moment I watched Fel's vlogs and saw how Morinth slowly pulled her into her orbit and crushed her life like a black hole. All done solely for her own pleasure.

What Morinth does is monstrous. You can play games about what she might have been if her AY wasn't as bad or if Samara had been a better mother or that it's really her AY that's forcing her to do it or that maybe if you said the right things in the right order, she might try to stop some day. What matters is that she's willingly doing these horrible things, and she never exhibits the slightest hint of remorse. No, her desire to experience real love does not count as remorse for her actions.

This is not the tale of a tortured vampire who does evil things because it is their nature, yet ultimately desires to be good. This is the tale of a vampire who reviles in her evil ways, who enjoys slowly reeling in her prey, the naked exertion of power and control over another in the most intimate way. As she said, she enjoys letting her opponents think that they have the upper hand, then reversing it at a critical moment before making the kill.

My point is this: none of the small positive elements she may exhibit can make up for the fact that she does cruel things to people solely for her own pleasure. That she uses and abuses people as a matter not just of course, but as a way to turn herself on.

So yes, she's still a Complete Monster. Nothing she says or does makes up for that. Just because she exhibits self-control around someone who can resist her doesn't mean that she's not the cold soul of evil.

Maybe Shepard could have helped her stop being a threat to innocent people if the two of them had remained in one another's lives, as teammates, the way Shepard did with Jack.

Could she have been steered off the path she was on, if people like my Shepard had tried to help her instead of just trying to kill her? If they'd seen her as a person instead of as a disease that needed to be purged and nothing more?

No. The fundamental foundation of her problem is that she is constitutionally incapable of seeing a person as anything other than a resource to be consumed. For her, people are a collection of assets and liabilities.

There's no "helping" Morinth that wouldn't involve rewriting her brain to make her not an AY anymore. And she's made it perfectly clear that she would prefer death to that.

The difference between Morinth and Jack is best illustrated in the Firefly film Serenity:

Hell, I'll kill a man in a fair fight... or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight, or if he bothers me, or if there's a woman, or if I'm gettin' paid - mostly only when I'm gettin' paid. But these Reavers... last ten years they show up like the bogeyman from stories. Eating people alive? Where's that get fun?

Jack is Jayne here. Morinth is the Reavers. Jack kills people for logical reasons, even if those reasons can seem capricious to a more balanced psyche. The same goes for Samara.

Morinth does it for kicks.

And if Morinth were as bad as her detractors believe, she wouldn't have given Shepard a choice, not when she clearly wanted to be with Shepard so badly. She would have just tried to take what she wanted.

Alternatively, she has enough of a self-preservation instinct to realize the first rule of survival in the Mass Effect universe:

  • Do not fuck with Shepard!

That's why Aria was as nice and helpful to Shepard as she was. And that's why Aria's still alive at the end of ME2.

Trying to rape Shepard would almost certainly be the last thing she would ever do. Morinth may be evil and crazy, but she's not stupid.
KilgoreTrout Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 2nd 2013 at 7:30:55 PM
I'm not really eager to respond to everything since I just found it and there's a lot of it and I'd rather do other stuff right now, but you seem to be contradicting something you said earlier, and I do want to respond to that.

Earlier, you said that Shepard was not capable of stopping Samara from killing Morinth, because Samara was too powerful for Shepard.

Here, you're saying that Morinth could never force herself on Shepard, because Shepard is too strong.

Which is it? Is Shepard helpless against a powerful biotic like that, or can Shepard kick that biotic's ass?
Korval Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 19th 2013 at 11:21:30 PM
Earlier, you said that Shepard was not capable of stopping Samara from killing Morinth, because Samara was too powerful for Shepard.

No I did not. Perhaps a refresher in what I actually said is in order:

Do you honestly think that [Samara] would allow some human to stop her when her quarry is right there and incapacitated?

Shepard doesn't have the option because Samara will not be talked down. The only thing that's going to stop her is applying sufficient physical force to incapacitate her. And considering her fighting prowess, that's going to mean lethal force.

I never said that Shepard couldn't kill Samara. I said that Shepard couldn't stop Samara without killing her.

You asked, "Why can't I incapacitate Morinth and then talk Samara out of it?" And that's why. Samara is going to kill Morinth, and the only thing that's going to stop this is killing Samara first. You might be able to knock her out, but that's only temporary. Once she wakes up, she'll go right back on her "kill Morinth" quest.
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