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1	!YMMV tropes for the ''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'' series
2	!!Tropes with their own pages:
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4	* [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/InfinityTrain Alternative Character Interpretation]]
5	* [[EnsembleDarkhorse/InfinityTrain Ensemble Darkhorse]]
6	* [[FanficFuel/InfinityTrain Fanfic Fuel]]
7	* [[Fanon/InfinityTrain Fanon]]
8	* [[Memes/InfinityTrain Memetic Mutation]]
9	* [[Woobie/InfinityTrain Woobie]]
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15	* AbandonShipping: Grace and Simon were originally a popular pairing when they debuted in Book 2, as fans loved the dynamic they had. However, the ship started losing fans as Book 3 progressed, with Grace undergoing CharacterDevelopment contrasting with Simon becoming more unstable until the ending saw [[spoiler: Simon trying to murder Grace by throwing her to the train's wheels]]. By that point, pretty much everyone had jumped ship.
16	* AccidentalAesop:
17	** ''Book 2'': [[spoiler: "As long as you're clever and resourceful enough, it's acceptable to lie, cheat and steal to accomplish your goals even if they're entirely self-motivated." M.T. engages in very obviously selfish behavior and is willing to steal the number off a girl, potentially stranding her forever, but the narrative sympathy afforded as a result of their plight of being oppressed by the system of the Mirror World is prioritized over the ethical problems with their approach.]]
18	** ''Book 3'': [[spoiler: "Mentally Ill people, particularly those with BPD, Autism or PTSD, are beyond saving, and you should just severe yourself from them if you want to avoid being dragged down with them." Simon is depicted as a broken wreck of a human being, but by the train's rules is given a violent and horrific death for refusing to change, even though Grace openly fed into and was the cause of many of his worst character traits.]]
19	** Sometimes it's better to admit you don't know anything than continue to lie that you're an expert. [[spoiler: The Apex was only made because Grace lied to Simon about "knowing the Train", which spread into the cult that would hurt innocent denizens for their own selfish purposes. Even Grace had to admit to herself that she didn't know everything and lied to hide the fact that she's afraid of people looking down at her.]]
20	* {{Adorkable}}:
21	** Tulip, while initially TheStoic and abrasive, also [[BadassBookworm loves to code]] and is a GiverOfLameNames.
22	** One-One, particularly Glad-One, a small, British robot who [[ThePollyanna looks at the bright side of everything]].
23	** [[spoiler: Alrick]], another Brit who loves to tease his wife with a robotic voice and thinks pranks are the height of comedy.
24	** Jesse, yet another GiverOfLameNames, but also both a LovableJock and an ExtremeDoormat at the same time.
25	** Ryan, an enthusiastic rock-music lover and self-proclaimed cool guy who gives the dorkiest smiles.
26	* AluminumChristmasTrees: The season one episode "The Past Car" sees a character in a flashback use a whistle to make free calls on a pay phone, which is based on a real practice pioneered by the famous hacker John Draper. It only worked on American phones prior to the discontinuation of in-band signaling during the 1980s though, so don't bother trying it on the off-chance you do stumble upon a modern pay-phone.
27	* AngstWhatAngst:
28	** In "The Engine", Atticus [[spoiler:takes to the fact that he was ''shot in the face by the Conductor and turned into a Ghom'']] well, all things considered. He's more concerned that he was LockedOutOfTheLoop and that he's missing his crown.
29	** In "The Lucky Cat Car", Khaki Bottoms is seen with a big smile on his face, a jiggle-wiggle in his paws, and one of his ears lost, showing that he's not traumatized in the slightest [[spoiler: after Amelia destroyed the Ball Pit Car.]]
30	** Outside a scene of the Apex looking glum in "The New Apex", none of them are seemingly bothered by the fact that Grace basically screwed up their lives for years and prevented them from going home.
31	* AnimationAgeGhetto: The reason why the show was canceled. It was very mature and complex for a kids' cartoon, featuring graphic violence, disturbing content, and heavy themes such as divorce and mourning. Cartoon Network grew increasingly uncomfortable with what the writers wanted to explore in the show, deeming them too inappropriate for children. This is in spite of the show garnering a massive teen and adult following. The deal-breaker that ultimately led to its cancellation was the showrunners wanting the fifth season to feature an adult protagonist as opposed to the kid or teenage protagonists of the prior seasons ("child entry point").
32	* {{Applicability}}: [[spoiler: Simon's character arc is often seen as a broader fantastical depiction of real-life people that refuse to give up their abusive and self-destructive habits.]]
33	* AssPull: In "The New Apex", all it takes for the Apex to change their ways and open up is Grace immediately stating that Simon didn't tell who the real Conductor is. It comes off as too sudden, given how long Grace is known to be lying from her teeth and that she's indoctrinating these kids for years on end.
34	* AwardSnub: Despite its critical acclaim and developing a dedicated following, the ''only'' award the show was ever even nominated for during its entire run was "Best Special Production" at the 2020 Annie Awards, where "Book 1: The Perennial Child" lost to ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragonHomecoming''.
35	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
36	** All of Chrome Canyon's compositions for the series, but specifically the main themes for each season. Book 1's "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE92mDTzouI Running Away]]" crafts an enchanting, otherworldly atmosphere with an underlying feeling of horror. Book 2's "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgpamg9-r8g Cracked Reflection]]" is ethereal and dream-like, [[AccidentalPun reflecting]] the strange and fantastic cars awaiting the passengers. Book 3's "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReLW269y2xc Join the Apex]]" paints the image of a violent, righteous uprising.
37	** The train-related songs Creator/CartoonNetwork used to advertise their seasons of the show are seen as [[BootstrappedTheme secondary theme songs]] for their respective arcs: "Crazy Train" by Music/OzzyOsbourne for Book 1 and the Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees' cover of Music/IggyPop's "Passenger" for Book 2.
38	** [[spoiler:"[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o3E0xkoYRE Train To Nowhere]]" from the end of Book 4 (and the series) is an upbeat song about Ryan and Min-Gi’s time there and symbol of their renewed friendship.]]
39	* BaseBreakingCharacter:
40	** Tulip. While general opinion on her is somewhat positive, plenty of fans are split on how her character flaws are portrayed, with some thinking that she comes across as way too [[{{Jerkass}} abrasive and whiny]] to be sympathetic, especially in how she deals with her parents' divorce, to the point that it isn't uncommon to hear people cite her as the reason they never bothered with later seasons. Others absolutely adore her portrayal, praising her for being a genuinely well-written BadassBookworm and thinking that her abrasiveness and angst are [[AgeAppropriateAngst completely appropriate for a girl her age]].
41	** Grace and Simon have a splintered reaction. While it's accepted that both characters contributed to how things ended in Book 3, some fans debate that one character deserves more blame than the other; be it Grace for putting Simon on the path to becoming a sociopath and forming The Apex, to begin with, or Simon for refusing to change his ways at every possible opportunity. Then there's a third party who blames ''Amelia and Tulip'', since if their altercation didn't occur months prior, [[spoiler: One-One wouldn't have been reinstated as Conductor and ordered the quarantining of Amelia's cars]], which set off the events of Book 3, to begin with.
42	* BrokenBase:
43	** [[spoiler: Did Grace deserve to still lead the Apex after everything she did to them? On one hand, she arguably should take the responsibility of cleaning up the mess she made; but on the other hand, she was ''not'' considered parental material at all and they only got to where they were because of her lies and mistakes.]]
44	** [[spoiler: How much sympathy Simon deserves for being a backstabbing murderer who refuses every chance at redemption while also a very clearly sick and broken man with extreme PTSD and internal self-loathing. After the premiere of "The New Apex", many fans began making memes out of his shockingly violent death while offering him NoSympathy, though in the years since the episode has aired, some have expressed more sympathy for how clearly broken he was, and recognize that even if his actions were ultimately up to him in the end, they still wished there could have been some intervention to help him, and that his death can be read as insensitive towards mentally ill people. The topic still largely divides the community, with general consensus somewhere in the middle.]]
45	* CatharsisFactor:
46	** Jesse standing up to Grace and Simon in "The Mall Car", vowing that he's never going to be a pushover on ''or'' off the train. Bonus points, this is what gets his number to 0.
47	** [[spoiler: MT giving Mace his well-deserved death via grinding him on the train's wheels in "The Wasteland." [[https://twitter.com/lindsaykatai/status/1302564264540999682 Even the writers said you were supposed to feel relief at Mace's death.]]]].
48	** Those troubled by Grace's manipulations and apathetic behaviors in season 2 find it fulfilling to see her realize the damage of her actions unfold and bite her back throughout the course of season 3, leaving her remorseful and broken. This also serves one to those who adore Grace as season 3 gives her more depth and a HeelFaceTurn.
49	** For some, it is very satisfying seeing Simon get knocked down a peg when [[spoiler: Amelia spells it out to him what the train is really for, and that he is nothing but a child with a bad attitude throwing a temper tantrum. It is also satisfying how her DeflectorShield basically beats up Simon without her even needing to lift a finger against him]].
50	** [[spoiler: Simon dies a horrible death by his childhood trauma Ghom in the season 3 finale is this for some. Though word from the writers was his death [[https://twitter.com/lindsaykatai/status/1302564264540999682 is meant to be seen as a tragedy]] unlike with Mace and Sieve.]]
51	** Min-Gi being proven wrong in "The Astro Queue Car" is a very satisfying scene for some, seeing as he'd spent the entirety of the episode being an overly smug, condescending jerk toward Ryan.
52	* CreepyAwesome:
53	** The Steward is a strange uncanny monster with the face of a porcelain woman attached to a mass of robotic tentacles. It's a dangerous and persistent foe and always makes for a tense atmosphere when she appears.
54	** Though the Mirror Police are much more personable than the Steward and the Conductor, they're still distinctively otherworldly. Their true forms have no facial features other than a mouth, they wear artificial skin in order to transport between dimensions, and they devolve into half-melted malformed messes as the episode goes on.
55	** The Conductor really makes an impact on the final third of Book One. [[spoiler:A massive FauxAffablyEvil robot cobbled together with a callous disregard for life and ambitions beyond her own.]]
56	** The Docent from "The Art Gallery Car" is a FleshGolem made of arms and looks and acts like a monster that came from ''Silent Hill'' with everything that implies.
57	* CrossesTheLineTwice:
58	** When One-One suspects that the Steward is his "mum", Tulip points out that it was attacking him. Sad-One's response? "[[AbusiveParents The question stands.]]"
59	** MT sees a lunch lady viewing One-One's message and thinks nothing of it. When Jesse brings up a lunch lady who thought he was wasting food and wonders if she's also on this train two episodes later, MT pauses and states "Maybe?" And yes, WordOfGod confirms that is the same woman.
60	** In "The Lucky Cat Car", one of the games is one where someone rapidly presses a button so a horse figure goes to a finish line chasing a rabbit... but replace "rabbit" with a human and horse to "a Ghom".
61	* CrossoverShip:
62	** People were shipping Tulip with [[WesternAnimation/GravityFalls Dipper Pines]] before the show even premiered, likely due to the aspects shared with both Dipper and Wendy. [[labelnote: Such as... ]]the former for being both being {{Adorkable}} [[BadassBookworm Badass Bookworms]] trying to solve the mysteries of the place they find themselves in filled with [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] (also both have something involving a number on a hand, though in Dipper's case it's on [[TomeOfEldritchLore Journal 3]] and not on his hand), and the latter for being a RedheadInGreen.[[/labelnote]] Others have shipped Tulip with [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall Wirt]], also based on their similarities. [[labelnote: Similarities like...]] being a [[BadassBookworm brainy but tough]] teenager with something of an InsufferableGenius personality lost in a strange, desolate landscape that has a strong (albeit only metaphorical in Wirt's case) connection to trains, and [[AgentScully who refuse to accept the fantastical/impossible reality]] of what they're dealing with along with them running away from their problems but later learning to confront them. Both of them are also accompanied by two diminutive companions, one upbeat and one downbeat (Glad-One and Sad-One vs. Greg and Beatrice), and both spend their pilot episode fleeing a large monster.[[/labelnote]]
63	** Due to their similar roles, but [[OppositesAttract vastly]] [[BadassBookworm different]] [[GenkiGirl personalities]], it didn't take very long for people to ship Tulip with [[WesternAnimation/TwelveForever Reggie]]. Reggie canonically having a crush on a girl while Tulip's [[ChasteHero sexuality is a blank slate]] also helps.
64	*** Tulip being paired with [[WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse Luz]] also works because of the different personalities and the fact that Luz is confirmed bi. Funnily enough, both were heading off to camp before they got sent to the Infinity Train/Boiling Isles respectively.
65	** One-One and [[VideoGame/Portal2 Wheatley]] are usually portrayed as best friends, [[MoodWhiplash given]] [[GeniusDitz how]] [[RobotBuddy similar]] [[AliensOfLondon they]] are.
66	** Jesse/[[WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse Steven]], given how both are incredibly [[NiceGuy nice dudes]], [[ExtremeDoormat almost to a fault]], with both also wearing varsity jackets.
67	* CryForTheDevil:
68	** Some feel this way about The Cat after "[[Recap/InfinityTrainS1E5TheCatsCar The Cat's Car]]" since at the end she's understandably completely terrified for her life and seems devastated when the Steward destroys her home. It gets worse in "[[Recap/InfinityTrainS1E8TheBallPitCar The Ball Pit Car]]" when [[spoiler: it's clear she's little more than a terrified slave to the Conductor, desperately trying to get out of the situation she's found herself in... only for the Conductor to [[ILied go back on her deal and have the Steward attempt to kill her anyway]]. Luckily, the next episode shows that she survived]].
69	** [[spoiler: The Conductor]] themselves garnered sympathy from fans at the end of Book 1 when it's revealed that [[spoiler: she had a happy life until her fiancé died young. While a cruel and callous ControlFreak, everything she does stems from a desire to desperately re-create her old life, and she's spent half her life on the train unable to move on from her partner's death]].
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74	* DiagnosedByTheAudience:
75	** Tulip is viewed as autistic by some fans as a result of having several niche special interests in video game programming and onions, social awkwardness and obsession with comprehending rules and order.
76	** Simon has obsessive niche interests in military and fantasy novels, adherence to regimented order, poor social skills and difficulty understanding social cues and a general lack of emotional intelligence in a way that goes beyond LackOfEmpathy, leading many fans to believe he might be autistic.
77	* DracoInLeatherPants:
78	** [[spoiler: The Conductor/Amelia Hughes]], while certainly a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, also grew bitter and borderline sociopathic over the course of their stay on the train, [[spoiler: manipulating the train's functions to make a GildedCage where she can reunite with her dead fiancé, but also completely ignoring how many passengers were left without the guidance of the original Conductor, prolonging their stay]]. And then there's also the willingness to [[WouldHurtAChild harm Tulip]] [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals and Atticus]]. Many sympathize with them anyway, with many going as far as ignoring their heinous actions in favor of making them TheWoobie. [[spoiler: This only intensified in Book 3, where she's bettering herself, but still callous and aloof, even towards Hazel. [[ParentalAbandonment A being that she created]]. Many fans choose to believe she becomes a DefrostingIceQueen towards her ward despite taking her for the express purpose of research.]] Book 4 helps greatly with this kinder view of the character, as it shows that [[spoiler: passengers didn't receive anything in the way of guidance prior to her reign either. In fact, One was arguably ''more'' uncaring and aloof about their well-being, while Amelia attempted to make suggestions she thought would improve passenger conditions (such as giving them back their belongings)]], putting into question just how awful their influence actually was on the train.
79	** [[spoiler: Simon and Grace]] can fall into this, though which one gets the treatment is mutually exclusive depending on how a given person chooses to give "blame" to for the events of Book Three. If one supports [[spoiler: Simon]], then expect to hear cries of how [[spoiler: Grace]] was grooming them their entire life to explain away their actions. If one supports [[spoiler: Grace]], you'll have people saying that [[spoiler: Simon]]'s actions were them and wholly them from the very start. The show itself makes it clear that while [[spoiler: Simon willingly threw away his chances for redemption]], both were enabling and reinforcing the other's bad qualities and vices.
80	* EpilepticTrees:
81	** Multiple questions arose immediately after the pilot premiered concerning the train, and its denizens such as One-One, and how Tulip got on the train, to begin with, but the biggest one of all was "what does the number on her hand mean?" The most popular theories were that it designated her ranking in a bizarre game or kept track of the Steward's location. Only a handful of people correctly guessed prior to the show's premiere that the number [[spoiler: was basically a direct indicator of her character growth]], with some fans, still remaining uncertain about what the number meant until it was explicitly stated the following season.
82	** After the poster for Book 3 was revealed and the show's creator casually emphasized Hazel's lack of a glowing hand when commenting on a subsequent piece of fanart, many theories sprung up about what this could possibly mean for who (or what) Hazel is. Between being the offspring of a former passenger or a construct of the train, the oddest of these to gain traction was her being the biological child of Grace and Simon, hailing from some sort of [[KidFromTheFuture "future" car]]. It later turns out that [[spoiler: she's a denizen made as the hypothetical offspring of Amelia and Alrick, birthed from a failed attempt of the former at cloning the latter]].
83	** Given how the main characters of Books 2 and 3 were supporting characters in the seventh episode of the prior season, many fans theorized that [[spoiler: Amelia]] would be the main protagonist of Book 4. This wouldn't be the case, but they would still make an appearance during the season and be heard multiple times throughout.
84	* FandomEnragingMisconception: Assuming that Tulip is the main character can be this. As a result of how the show was initially advertised, in addition to how some services continue to list it, a fair amount of people assume Tulip is the show's protagonist. While she does hold the role of the main character in the first season, that's also the only season that she appears in; the show is an anthology that follows a different cast of characters in each story arc.
85	* FandomRivalry:
86	** With ''WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall'', another Cartoon Network show with dark elements starring protagonists finding themselves in another world and forced to find a way home. Unlike ''Infinity Train'', ''Over the Garden Wall'' stays confirmed as a miniseries, while the former is continued as an anthology.
87	** Also with ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'', at least on 4chan's /co/ board, due to their broad similarities in plot structure (teenage girls who star in Western {{isekai}}). Especially ''Amphibia'', which premiered around the same time. Those series being renewed for second seasons ahead of their premieres, while ''Infinity Train'' was just a "five-night special event" ([[ExactWords or so they let us believe]]) didn't help things. However, as mentioned below, there are people who watch and enjoy all three.
88	* FandomSpecificPlot: The majority of ''Infinity Train'' fanfics fall into three categories:
89	** {{Continuation}} fics about what happens to passengers after their time on the train, ranging from Jesse and Lake's budding friendship, to [[spoiler: Grace making amends with the Apex for all they've done and telling the Cat about Simon's death]], to Ryan and Min's lives as underground musicians, to [[spoiler: Amelia's life with Hazel and her potential redemption]].
90	** Crossover fics revolving around transplanting characters from other fictional works and having them traverse the train. After all, it's already from an alternate dimension, [[ObviousCrossoverMethod so why not jump through several different ones]]? Given the straightforward requirements for boarding, fans have taken to write crossovers with everything from ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'', to ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'', to even ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'' and ''WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall'', as characters from those series board the train to address their trauma and psychological issues.
91	*** It also isn't uncommon for longer crossover fics to slowly become ReferenceOverdosed, as such stories tend to have additional shout-outs and references to even more works outside the main crossover: ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainBlossomingTrail'', for example, has an entire story arc dedicated to what is essentially The ''Franchise/SilentHill'' Car.
92	** For those who felt pity for Simon, there are many fanfics in which [[spoiler:he doesn't get killed by the Ghom and instead is able to start getting his redemption and number down or SwappedRoles with Grace in a RoleSwapAU where Simon genuinely grows fond of Tuba and empathize with her, only for Grace to kill her in a misguided attempt to please Simon and bring her number back up]].
93	** Some fanfics indulge in the idea of passengers killed on the train being recycled into denizens, often using this as a potential element in Samantha's backstory, [[spoiler: and a way for Grace and Simon to interact again without changing the original ending of Book 3.]]
94	* FanNickname:
95	** Some started calling Tulip's reflection "Holly Van Helsing", due to "Holly" being also the name of a plant (one that [[StealthPun comes in silver]]) and "Van Helsing" as a MythologyGag. Owen later said she chose the name [[ComicBook/XMen Gambit]], but this ended up being another example of TrollingCreator; the character largely [[DoNotCallMePaul goes by the initials MT]] in Book 2 and renames herself [[spoiler:Lake]] in the final scene. He'd joke about the misdirect later on, posting the "original" animatic for the scene where the character actually turns into the ''X-Men'' character, theme song for the 90s animated series and all.
96	** Fans quickly took to calling the cat "[[PunnyName Kate Mulgrowl]]", despite her quite clearly identifying herself as "''The'' Cat". This briefly held AscendedFanon status, as Owen would approve of the name during a Reddit [=AmA=] held before Book 1's finale, but the character's real name would be [[GivenNameReveal casually revealed]] in Book 3 to be [[spoiler:Samantha]].
97	** Some have taken to calling the Apex [[spoiler:"Amelians", given how much they worship Amelia]].
98	** The train itself is called "The Therapy Train" due to how [[spoiler:the train is meant to help people confront their traumas.]]
99	* FansPreferTheNewHer: When MT gets dressed up for a fashion show in "The Parasite Car", she's clearly uncomfortable, since the combination of the blue wig and the frilly outfit makes her look ridiculous. Many fans stated that they actually like the way she looks in that outfit and said that she should've at least kept the wig.
100	* FashionVictimVillain: At the end of Book 3, [[spoiler:Simon dons a makeover that actually suits him quite well, his loose hair and muscular arms give him a good sense of authority and make him more intimidating. The cape though? Overkill; he looks like he's trying to cosplay [[Franchise/FinalFantasy Sephiroth]] with a budget of 20 bucks. Though, considering Simon's personality and overall character, it might have been intentional]].
101	* FirstInstallmentWins:
102	** Non-fans are more aware of Tulip's storyline and its elements. Not only were they the most recurring in advertising and promotional material during the show's run, but her season was also the only one other than Book 2 that was available on multiple streaming services for months after the series ended. Said streaming services, and a fair number of official videos on Cartoon Network and HBO Max's [=YouTube=] channels for that matter, also used the synopsis for the first season to apply to the show as a whole.
103	** Averted within the fandom itself, where most of the love is directed [[GrowingTheBeard towards Book 3]].
104	* FriendlyFandoms:
105	** With both ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' and ''WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall'', due to the similar story structure of kid protagonists finding themselves in a mysterious environment, which may or may not be otherworldly. It was even briefly billed as a ten episode mini-series like the latter.
106	** Tulip is also commonly seen alongside [[WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse Luz]] and [[WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}} Anne]], since all three are teenage girls TrappedInAnotherWorld. Some also like to throw [[WesternAnimation/TwelveForever Reggie/Twelve]] into the mix. Fans of ''Infinity Train'' and ''The Owl House'' became closer together when Book 3 of ''Infinity Train'' premiered on the same weeks as the last three episodes of Season 1 for ''The Owl House'' with the penultimate episode(s) of their series [[spoiler:ending on a huge revelation of one of the characters shapeshifting into a creature and a massive {{Cliffhanger}} DownerEnding and both having very strong feelings for someone committing terrible acts (Simon for ''Infinity Train'' and Lilith for ''The Owl House'')]]. Bonus points: both shows have Creator/MatthewRhys as important very characters: he plays both King Aloysius and [[spoiler:Alrick]] for ''Infinity Train'' and Emperor Belos for ''The Owl House''.
107	** There's a bit of fandom overlap with ''WesternAnimation/VictorAndValentino'', as some consider them "sister shows" due to their pilots being released at roughly the same time.
108	** Judging from the amount of crossover memes, a lot of ''Infinity Train'' fans really enjoy ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}''. Given that both have a relatively futuristic setting, and have a [[ArtificialStupidity bumbling]], British RobotBuddy as part of the main cast, this actually makes a lot of sense.
109	** Just like many other Cartoon Network shows, fans of ''Infinity Train'' get along with fans of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', especially after Book 2. Some have already thought of scenarios like [[ChromeChampion MT]] meeting [[GemTissue the Gems]] or Steven boarding the train. In a Reddit AMA for Book 3, Owen outright described MT EatingOptional as "[[ShoutOut Gem rules]]", implying that he himself is a fan.
110	** After its move to Creator/HBOMax, fans of ''Infinity Train'' began to meet up with fans of ''WesternAnimation/GlitchTechs'' as both shows are cartoons that {{Channel Hop}}ped from cable to streaming and have their fandoms petitioning for renewal. Helps that Creator/KirbyHowellBaptiste voices characters in both. A third fandom also comes from ''WesternAnimation/FinalSpace'', thanks to the creators of that show [[https://twitter.com/Finalspace/status/1296945909591232512 also calling for future seasons]].
111	** There has been a good overlap with the ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' fandom, due to the release of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerbTheMovieCandaceAgainstTheUniverse'' a day after the final episodes of book 3 with some ''Infinity Train'' fans needing a good pick-me-up.
112	* GeniusBonus:
113	** Tulip enjoys eating entire raw onions like other people would eat apples. Onions and tulips are both members of the lily family.
114	** [[spoiler:The way that the environments inside the train cars are constructed clearly draws inspiration from coding, with the blue spheres serving as the "data" to encode individual elements.]]
115	** [[spoiler:The train itself bears a strong resemblance to [[Creator/DanteAlighieri Dante's]] interpretation of Purgatory in ''Literature/TheDivineComedy''. People arrive at the train after near-death experiences[[note]]Tulip wandering alone in the woods at night in the dead of winter and Amelia's implied suicide attempt off the roof of her university[[/note]] and go through various trials to "purge" themselves of flaws in order to be released. Both even have physical markers placed on their bodies to show their progress.]]
116	** The Train is essentially a physical representation of Georg Cantor's diagonal argument, which proved that there were an infinite number of numbers between any two real numbers. The train has a beginning, and presumably an end, but is still infinite. Also, the Cat's ability to traverse the infinite train is a representation of the calculus concept of the converging series, which showed that an infinite series of steps can add up to a finite number.
117	** While the media on which the memories of passengers are copied and stored look like [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Tape-Open LTO data tape cartridges]], they're actually based on [[http://www.labguysworld.com/Tape-CartV_008.jpg Cartrivision]], an obscure and short-lived United States home video format from the early 1970s that predated both Betamax and VHS.
118	** Perry the Parasite is a reference to ''Cymothoa exigua'', a louse that consumes, and then becomes, the tongue of a fish. [[https://www.science-rumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/20-Facts-about-Tongue-Eating-Louse-to-Know-What-this-Creature-Is--752x440.jpg Nausea fuel warning; glimpse at your own peril]].
119	* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: If [[https://twitter.com/OweeeeenDennis/status/1389405508470116354 participation in fan campaigns]] to get the show {{uncancelled}} are of any indication, ''Infinity Train'' has a substantial Brazilian following. Particularly of note, since until June 2021, Books 3 and 4 weren't officially available in the region.
120	* HarsherInHindsight: "[[Recap/InfinityTrainS1E2TheBeachCar The Beach Car]]" becomes a lot harder to rewatch after [[spoiler:we get to meet [[BigBad the Conductor]]. If Tulip actually gave One-One away, it would've probably ''killed'' him, and Tulip would've been trapped in the claws of the Conductor, with no-one to assist her (Randall would've probably been turned into a Ghom if he tried to interfere). Even worse, One-One was the ''true'' Conductor so Tulip pretty much would have killed the only being capable of stopping the Conductor's machinations]].
121	** Prior to Book 3, someone made [[https://twitter.com/Wormspies/status/1293898027518889985 this fanart]]. That would eerily predict the end of "The Color Clock Car"...
122	** Remember the two times Tulip had her life force sucked by a Ghom? [[spoiler:"The New Apex" reveals what happens if a Ghom is successful. Tulip is very, '''''very''''' lucky to have escaped from this even ''once'' compared to what happened to [[DeaderThanDead Simon]].]]
123	*** In regards to this, one of the games in the "Lucky Cat Car" is where you have Ghoms chasing after a human figure. The Cat, once the partner to Simon, inadvertedly caused Simon to have a fear of Ghoms when one chased after them and she abandoned him in his time of need [[spoiler:and Simon dies to a Ghom at the end of Book 3]].
124	** In "The Mall Car", Grace introduces Simon by saying that she "trusts him with her life". She won't be saying that after what happened in "The New Apex" when he [[spoiler:tried to kill her after she saved him]].
125	* HeartwarmingInHindsight:
126	** [[spoiler:The passenger seemingly obliterated in the first episode was actually successful in his attempts to find redemption and return home. Particularly so since Amelia was actively halting the progress of other people.]]
127	** After hearing [[spoiler:her story of how [[TheLostLenore Alrick]] died]], Hazel doesn't hesitate and runs up to hug [[spoiler:Amelia]], who [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments pushes her away in a matter of seconds]]. [[spoiler:Later, it's revealed that Amelia ''created'' Hazel, so technically Hazel was hugging and empathizing with her mom.]]
128	* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Isabella Abiera really sells the [[spoiler:sorrow Hazel feels upon learning how Simon murdered Tuba. Even Kyle [=McCarthy=](Simon's VA) himself stated that this was a very difficult recording session to be in]]. And then she ups the ante in [[spoiler:Tuba's funeral]].
129	** Kyle [=McCarley=] wowed everyone at the climax of "The New Apex" [[spoiler:showing off Simon's LaughingMad[=/=]CryLaughing to how he attempted to murder Grace]].
130	* HilariousInHindsight:
131	** During Book 1, someone made an [[https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1534964-western-animation Infinity Train/Amphibia crossover comic]], where [[spoiler: [[FaceHeelTurn Anne]] turns out to be the Conductor. Only ''one episode later'', we learn that the Conductor ''really is'' a female human. Bonus points for Anne piloting from the head and both "Anne" and "Amelia" starting with an A]].
132	** Book 4's themes of strained friendship, communication problems, forgiveness, chasing dreams, running away from your problems and having a FleshGolem based monster (with it presumably based off a dead passenger) with an arm motif and numerous {{Alice Allusion}}s are very similar to those found in ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainBlossomingTrail'' which was first uploaded before Book 3 premiered. Hell, both the fanfic and Book even have a denizen named Morpho (albeit the fanfic depicts them as a fairy whereas the Book has them be a butterfly sheriff)!
133	** In Book 4's episodes "The Astro Queue Car" and "The Party Car" both featured denizens that only wore spacesuits, never taking them off. This led to several jokes off the memetic hit game ''VideoGame/AmongUs'', and these jokes would become even more hilarious once it was announced that ''Infinity Train'''s creator Owen Dennis would be working on an animated series for ''Among Us'' as the executive producer.
134	** The most remembered scene of Book 1 is the scene of [[spoiler:the Conductor shooting Atticus in the face]]. [[WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish Maybe that's where Jack Horner got that idea.]]
135	* HoYay:
136	** Between Special Agents Sieve and Mace. Sieve is always trying to be supportive and caring for Mace and ''only'' gets pissed off when [[spoiler:he wants to kill MT for killing Mace]].
137	** In "The Map Car" MT blushes when the mermaids complimented her hair (she's shaved most of it at this point, for those wondering).
138	** Ryan and Min-Gi blush a lot when around each other and Ryan tends to get pretty touchy-feely with Min. Their entire book also revolves around them fixing their relationship and in the final episode [[spoiler: Min states that he won't leave the train as long as Ryan is still on it]].
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140
141	[[folder:I-R]]
142	* IdiosyncraticShipNaming:
143	** "Travelfriends" for MT/Jesse, based on the improvised song Jesse was singing in Episode 2.
144	** “Mall Rats” for Grace/Simon, based on their introduction in The Mall Car.
145	* IKnewIt:
146	** After Book 1 ended with an announcement that "''Infinity Train'' will return", many people speculated that Tulip's story was over and the second season would have a different protagonist. Turns out that is exactly what happened, with the show undergoing an anthology format.
147	** Two major reveals that fans correctly guessed prior to Book 3's premiere were that Hazel [[spoiler:would turn out not to be human]] and that [[spoiler:Amelia would return]].
148	*** A certain camp of people correctly predicted that [[spoiler:Tuba would die]].
149	** Quite a number of people predicted that Book 4 would [[spoiler:chronologically take place before the previous three Books]], and would feature an appearance from [[spoiler:Amelia, prior to her attempting to take control of the Train.]]
150	* ItsShortSoItSucks:
151	** Each book/season being only ten, 11-minute episodes long. Some fans like the brevity of each story arc, feeling they allow the plots to be succinctly told without overstaying their welcome and that they make recommending the show much easier due to the smaller time commitment. Others believe that 110 minutes worth of episodes for each story arc results in the story coming across as too rushed at times, and leaves far too much story potential with any given cast of characters unrealized.
152	* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: The villains of the show have their fans: [[spoiler:Amelia for being a TragicVillain who only wants to be with her beloved Alrick, the Mirror Police are CreepyAwesome and even Simon gets love for being such a despicable bastard and some pitied how he died after pushing away everyone he ever loved. The same sentiment can't be said for Grace's parents, who are emotionally abusive, neglectful, and had a tendency to not take responsibility for how their hands-off parenting is what got Grace onto the Train and become leader of a denizen-slaying cult.]]
153	** Another set of jerks that fans hate are Jesse's "friends" who didn't care how Nate broke his arm, and seemingly get away with their crimes. Again, this is in contrast to the Mirror Cops who are willing to grind down Lake and the apathetic cult who wheels denizens.
154	* LGBTFanbase:
155	** MT has drawn the attention of some LGBT fans both for her obviously flustered reaction to the mermaids complimenting her hair during "The Map Car" and the trans subtext in her story: She was forced to live out a role that she didn't want and even answer to a name that wasn't hers, then broke away to find an identity for herself while [[MoralGuardians other people]] keep trying to force her back into her "intended" role. Not to mention that she's derided for being "different" or lesser than self-proclaimed "normal" people. Her [[ButchLesbian redesign]] makes her also quite popular with lesbians. In addition, [[spoiler: her chosen name of Lake is very similar to the names chosen by younger nonbinary people]].
156	** As much as the mere trailer of Book 4 came out, gay fans swarmed to ship Min and Ryan, the protagonist duo of the season, with a big belief that they were supposed to become a couple over the course of the show. It wasn't explicitly depicted as such, to considerable consternation.
157	* LoveToHate:
158	** The Mirror Police, for holding such backwards prejudice [[BoomerangBigot towards the sentient reflections]], [[spoiler: but especially Mace, for not only [[GoodCopBadCop being much more abrasive and directly violent in comparison to Sieve]], but also giving MT a BreakingSpeech, which essentially mocks her entire existence. While many viewers loved him for being an absolutely cold badass, they tend to agree that [[AssholeVictim he completely had his death at the hands of MT coming]]]].
159	** [[spoiler:[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Simon]] is this for some viewers who didn't CryForTheDevil (and even some who did), feeling he perfectly represents the destructiveness of the Apex.]]
160	* MemeticPsychopath:
161	** As mentioned before, MT's violent tendencies are often exaggerated for comedy, considering how she was [[spoiler:responsible for at least one on-screen death]].
162	** Again as mentioned before, Simon has become this after [[spoiler:his murder of Tuba]] but this is not played for comedy.
163	* {{Moe}}:
164	** Tulip when she was younger. [[spoiler:Even though most of the memories involving her are [[FalseMemories likely fabricated]], she's still absolutely adorable. It helps that she's the only thing that doesn't become distorted.]]
165	** Jesse's younger brother Nate is pretty much just a smaller, cuter version of him and also TheWoobie.
166	** Even when only a promo picture of Book 3 was revealed, people were already noticing how cute [[PluckyGirl Hazel]] is. [[spoiler:Even when morphing into a turtle creature, many just wanted to give the poor thing a hug.]]
167	* NarmCharm: [[spoiler:When Grace sees Simon again in "The New Apex", he's being carried on a throne that looks like something straight out of ''Series/GameOfThrones'', doing a SlouchOfVillainy, and is dressed in such a way that it’s painfully obvious he's trying to look edgy and cool. None of this takes away from how disturbing it is to see how evil he's become.]]
168	* NauseaFuel: Grace yanking out the memory tape from her head results in yellow-white goo coming out from that area and her vomiting up some saliva. Her disgusted reaction sells it.
169	* NeverLiveItDown: Amelia will forever be remembered for [[spoiler:her desire to shoot a puppy in the face.]]
170	* OneSceneWonder: [[spoiler:For Book 1, it's Alrick, due to him being the catalyst for the Conductor's machinations on the train.]]
171	* OneTruePairing:
172	** Tulip/Mikayla is this for anyone who wants to ship Tulip in a realistic way, given that the two of them are shown to be close friends, which could potentially evolve into [[ChildhoodFriendRomance something more]].
173	** MT/Jesse popped up as soon as the trailer revealed that they're going to be co-protagonists. Book 2 then turned out to be loaded with ShipTease, despite WordOfGod saying they wrote them as platonic friends. It definitely helps that the season ends with [[spoiler:Jesse being so torn up about leaving her behind that his guilt ''sends him back on the train'' so they can reunite]], and that when explaining their platonic bond, the creator also didn't dismiss the possibility of romance in the future. Creator/CartoonNetwork even acknowledged the duo as such a few times, such as this [[https://twitter.com/cartoonnetwork/status/1227296120461758464 Valentine's Day-related tweet]].
174	** Grace/Simon has also become highly popular, thanks to the [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes close bond]] the two of them have demonstrated over the course of the series. However, see AbandonShipping to see what happened.
175	** Ryan/Min-Gi bascially exploded overnight when the official trailer for their book was revealed. Many fans theorized that the story would revolve around two friends having to grapple with the realization that they had caught feelings for each other. Although that ultimately wasn't the plot of Book 4, the ship itself is still pretty popular, see HoYay above for why.
176	* ParanoiaFuel:
177	** There is a sentient train that stalks ''anybody and everybody'' who might be going through a mental health crisis, from something as small as a dead lizard to a person who is ready to end their lives. There is nothing you can do to escape it; it will appear in an empty area, inside a building, or ''inbetween subway cars''. Pray that you end up in a car that's nice and not ready to kill you, and ''double pray'' that the people you meet on the Train know what you're supposed to do to escape.
178	** The Chrome Car can make those with spectrophobia crawl into a hole. Reflections are ''sentient'' and they see everything that you do. The only way out of the car is swapping places with your reflection and that's only ''if'' your reflection plays nice and is willing to swap back with you after it's over. [[spoiler:Oh and if the reflection happens to ''escape'' the car? Well, you've just lost your reflection forever!]]
179	* PlatonicWritingRomanticReading: Owen Dennis has claimed that the relationship between MT and Jesse was meant to be a platonic friendship, but they receive so much ShipTease that fans don't exactly have to squint to see something more going on between them. From her blushing around him several times (such as when he promises to bring her off the train with him), to him putting his arm around her and them often standing close together, to lots of HoldingHands and hugging, to Jesse [[spoiler:being ''so'' upset about accidentally leaving the train without her that it ''picks him back up a second time'']], there's enough romantic tension there that MT/Jesse is one of the most popular pairings in the fandom.
180	* PortmanteauCoupleName:
181	** Jesse/MT = [[spoiler:Jesslake]]
182	** Grace/Simon = Grimon
183	** Ryan/Min-Gi = Rymin
184	* PreemptiveShipping: As far back as Book 4's concept art being leaked, people shipped Ryan Akagi and Min-Gi Park. This boosted once the trailer for the book was released, and when the book itself actually aired, Rymin became the most popular ship in the fandom.
185	* RealismInducedHorror: The show has a fair amount of this, but peaks in Book 3, which is part of what makes it as dark and frightening as it was. [[spoiler: The concept of the series revolves a little girl traveling with an individual that might attempt to kill her if he finds out that she's a member of a minority group that she despises. The Apex's cult tactics are disturbingly similar to real-life cults, relying on emotional manipulation, validation and isolating individuals from their friends and families. Simon's motivation for hating denizens is also realistically petty, motivated by his extrapolation of the actions of a singular immoral person onto the entirety of the group.]]
186	** This also is the reason Simon is such a horrifying character, that constantly dances between sympathy and detestability. [[spoiler: He is incredibly similar to many real-life racists, domestic abusers and individuals with unhealthy coping mechanisms and self-destructive habits. He is so obscenely broken and pitiful that many characters try to and want to help him, but are unable to as he continually pushes away every single attempt at assistance and spirals deeper down into a near-addictive spiral of madness. He also has a realistically obsessive and vindicative relationship with Grace that stems from his fear of abandonment, viewing that she doesn't act like she's "supposed" to and attempts to discover information about her that he can use without her knowledge or consent.]]
187	* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap:
188	** When the first trailers for Book 2 came out, Jesse failed to make a good first impression in the eyes of many fans, thinking his adventurous portrayal [[ContrastingSequelProtagonist contrasting Tulip]] makes him look [[ReplacementScrappy somewhat inferior by comparison]]. After the Book premiered however, many fans praised his portrayal of being a genuinely likeable and sympathetic character [[ExtremeDoormat who still has flaws]] to balance him out. It helps that [[DecoyProtagonist he wasn't the definitive protagonist]] in the first place, instead serving as the {{Deuteragonist}}. It's outright hard to find someone who actually dislikes him nowadays.
189	** [[spoiler: Some fans initially found Amelia to be an uninteresting and ultimately [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic entirely unsympathetic]] villain in Book 1. However, her redesign and ReformedButNotTamed characterization in Book 3 won over some of her detractors. Pitting her against Simon, a delinquent created as a result of her neglect of the train and delivering a well-earned TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. That said others were still annoyed as Amelia let a dangerous individual created as a result of her own actions roam free and felt she should've taken more responsibility for the Apex.]]
190	[[/folder]]
191
192	[[folder:S-W]]
193	* ShipsThatPassInTheNight:
194	** Some already ship Tulip/Jesse, even though the two have never met, based on the fact that they're both protagonists with [[OppositesAttract opposing personalities]]. Though the ship tease between MT and Jesse could potentially make a relationship between them seem plausible. Or even between [[OneTrueThreesome all three of them]].
195	** Some are already interested in [[spoiler:Amelia/Grace]], given how much the latter worships the former. Again, [[LovingAShadow the two have never met]], and even if they did, their meeting would probably end at a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to the latter's expense. [[spoiler: In the show, it turns out they did meet when Grace was a child, though Amelia doesn't remember the encounter. In addition, it's ''Simon'' that gets chewed out, as he starts screaming and attempting to attack her after she explains everything, claiming that she's lying, while Grace tries to stop him.]]
196	** While not a "ship" in the romantic way, many are interested in the scenario of MT and Hazel meeting and the former becoming a CoolBigSis to the latter, considering how [[spoiler:both are humanoid denizens who want to be recognized [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman as being just as valuable as humans]]]].
197	* ShockingMoments:
198	** The end of "The Wasteland" where [[spoiler:MT ''murders someone'' (Mirror Cop Mace) by grinding his face to the train wheels and "blood" splattering her face.]]
199	** The end of "The Color Clock Car" ramps it up when [[spoiler:Simon kills animal companion Tuba without remorse just when it looks like they were getting close (although it cuts away before Tuba gets grinded by the wheels)]].
200	** "The New Apex" kills off [[spoiler:''Simon'', when the Ghom sucks away his life force]].
201	* SignatureLine:
202	** MT's breakdown in the Tape Car, "Look at me! I am a person! I '''''DESERVE''''' A NUMBER!!!"
203	*** Also from MT, "I'm Lake."
204	** Simon's line to Tuba in "The Color Clock Car". "Teamwork starts when two people trust each other. But you? [[spoiler:''You're no person''.]]
205	* SignatureScene:
206	** "The Grid Car": Tulip running away for coding camp.
207	** "[[Recap/InfinityTrainS1E8TheBallPitCar The Ball Pit Car]]": [[spoiler:Atticus being shot by the Conductor before being turned into a Ghom.]]
208	** "The Mall Car": [[spoiler:MT trying to leave with Jesse to the real world, holding hands as Jesse is swept up by the vortex.]]
209	** "The Wasteland": [[spoiler:The death of Mirror Cop Mace by MT's hands.]]
210	** "The Numbers Car": [[spoiler:MT finally free and stating that her name is now Lake.]]
211	** "The Color Clock Car": [[spoiler:Tuba's death by Simon along with Simon's scowl at the deed.]]
212	** "The Campfire Car": [[spoiler:Hazel's eulogy for Tuba.]]
213	** "The New Apex": Two of them involving Simon: [[spoiler:him LaughingMad while he has numbers ''on his face'' after kicking Grace into the wheels or when he is being killed when a Ghom sucks his life out.]]
214	* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus to Book 4 "Duet" seems to be that it's good overall, but [[SeasonalRot doesn't really hold a candle to the previous books]], especially DarkerAndEdgier Book 3, being a much more tame and self-contained story.
215	* {{Squick}}: The scene in "The New Apex" where [[spoiler:Grace has to pull out the tape of her memories to the point where she's gagging when she sees what looks like a chunk of her ''brain'' at the end]].
216	* SpiritualAdaptation: Many have described ''Infinity Train'' as a LighterAndSofter adaptation of the ''Franchise/SilentHill'' franchise due to the shared premise of surviving and eventually escaping the eponymous EpiphanicPrison -- the Infinity Train basically being a ''much'' nicer version of [[PsychologicalTormentZone the town of Silent Hill]]. The show often draws comparisons to ''Silent Hill'' games with more personal, psychological storylines, in particular the [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 second entry of the series]]. Book 1 is similar to that of ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' as its main plot involved [[spoiler:Cheryl Mason struggling with accepting that her father is dead and she can't focus on the Frankenstein's monster she made which is a parallel to Amelia trying to create a car that would mimick the past so well and forget Alrick died (Bonus points as both have dark hair.]] Meanwhile, Tulip struggles with her parents and their divorce, which is one of the endings of the same game. Moreover, ''Shattered Memories'' was themed after snow and ice, and Tulip ended up running away onto the Train in winter and woke up in the Snow Car, not to mention that there's a theme of memory tapes and "snow" like [[spoiler:Cheryl kept replaying her home movies and reliving the happy memories of her dad, before she finally places the last part once she comes to understand that her father is dead and nothing she can do can bring him back.]]
217	** Speaking of ''Silent Hill 2'', Book 3 can be considered an adaptation of that one given how the main characters of that arc actually fit the characters from Silent Hill 2: Grace is Angela (for having abusive parents and she [[spoiler:later ends up a BrokenBird like Angela does (Although she ends up ''living'' whereas Angela ascends a fiery staircase to her death]], Simon is Eddie (a blond Psycopathic Manchild who is in deep denial of his wrongdoings), Hazel is Laura, a blond CheerfulChild who gets along with the Eddie parallel [[spoiler:and ends up broken when her closest friend gets killed like when Laura learns that James killed Mary]], Tuba is Mary Shepherd due to her bond with Hazel, [[spoiler:and Amelia is James Sunderland who takes in Hazel like the "Leave" ending of implies that Laura will be adopted by James.]] Meanwhile, Book 2 is a ''lighter'' version of ''Silent Hill 2'' as MT can be seen as Maria who struggles over the idea that she's not a real person. The storyline can be seen as a happier "Maria" ending in which Jesse (the James Sunderland parallel) not only goes ''back'' for MT, [[spoiler: but MT eventually escapes to the real world without any negative reprecussions, allowed to have her own name and be together with Jesse.]]
218	* StrawmanHasAPoint: [[spoiler:Grace is a manipulative sociopath with backwards morals, believing improving your morality and understanding your problems is a weakness. However, she does have a point when she says that the train doesn't care how old the passengers are, kidnapping children away from their families and forcing them to understand something nobody expects them to understand. This ends up falling apart, however, when Grace clearly doesn't have the moral high ground, as she gaslights children into chaotic little brats, making their stay on the train longer than it needs to be.]]
219	** [[spoiler:In "The Origami Car", Grace's father does chew out the mall cop in how their daughter is not a thief, but considering that he and his wife are ambassadors, he is making a valid point that if word gets out then it would ruin their reputations. Which, in turn, would also ruin Grace's reputation among her peers as well if rumors spread that she was a thief.]]
220	* SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel:
221	** The first half of "[[Recap/InfinityTrainS1E8TheBallPitCar The Ball Pit Car]]", which consists of Tulip, One-One, and Atticus going on an adorable pretend quest with a living stuffed animal in a car that's just one giant play area. It's guaranteed to give you the warm fuzzies… as long as you stop the episode before [[MoodWhiplash the second half begins]].
222	** In a way, the premise of entire show manages to be this, as the train is filled with friendly creatures and whimsical landscapes, once one manages to ignore the NightmareFuel (literally) surrounding it. [[spoiler:Especially after the reveal that the train works like therapy and only abducts people whose lives really, really suck.]]
223	* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/InfinityTrain See here]].
224	* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Tulip's redesign for the show did receive some criticism when initially shown, both in storyboard form and in the SDCC 2018 teaser trailer. Especially the glasses looking more like normal glasses, rather than being infinity-shaped. Opinions improved upon seeing [[https://twitter.com/cartoonnetwork/status/1075778240185319425?s=09 the Cartoon Network 2019 sizzle reel]], which showcased the new design in a better light.
225	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
226	** Some of the car inhabitants from Book One qualify, since they have interesting designs and concepts that are just used for one episode, or worse, a quick montage. Thankfully "The Lucky Cat Car" in the following season shows many of them in cameos.
227	** The other passengers, when it's shown that the train has multiple passengers at once at the end of Book 1. Tulip encountering other humans on the train could've been interesting, allowing characters who are more grounded in reality to accompany her. [[spoiler:Though she did meet one passenger in Amelia.]] Future seasons would have multiple passengers interact, however.
228	** The Apex are only seen in four episodes and we know next to nothing about the individual children aside from a few names or the fact that Lucy lost an eye. In fact, we never see what the heck they're doing during Book 3's events while their leaders are separated [[spoiler:or what happened during the time Grace was stuck in her memories and Simon usurped the position of Apex leader for himself]].
229	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While Book 3 was praised, there are some aspects that could've been expanded on.
230	** [[spoiler:While we know what happened to Simon on the train, fans never discover what his life was like to make him enter it in the first place (as we see that his number was only at 55 when he met Grace). It could've been interesting for Grace to use the nanites and tape reader on him to pay back for what he did to her.]]
231	** [[spoiler:Amelia only shows up in three episodes of Book 3 and has little to no interest in the Apex at all. What would it have been like if she actually ''did'' try to stop the Apex?]]
232	** [[spoiler:When Grace has to review her memories in "The Origami Car", we never see her actually bringing up the idea of "kill the denizens to get our numbers up" or proof she ''actually'' killed a denizen. It would've made Hazel's accusations of Grace being a coward and the one who planted that idea in Simon's head ''much'' more impactful if we saw her spilling blood.]]
233	** Whatever the Apex was doing during the time that Grace and Simon were gone is never brought up. The worst they get is [[spoiler:being crushed and suppressed by Simon before a simple question by Grace immediately wakes them up from their brainwashing.]]
234	* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Tuba, the gentle yet sometimes sarcastic motherly gorilla who Hazel bonds with.]] Fans hoped that [[spoiler:she]]'d survive till the end of the book [[spoiler:only to watch her die by the hands of Simon halfway in]].
235	* TransAudienceInterpretation: Lake, since she has an alternative fashion choice and a consistent narrative of not being accepted as real. Most in this camp say non-binary, specifically.
236	* UglyCute: [[spoiler: Turtle-Hazel]] has a somewhat odd-looking face, but she's still a 6-year old child and incredibly cute.
237	** There's also her surrogate mother, Tuba, who is a gigantic gorilla with an amusingly simplistic facial expression, who is nevertheless an incredibly caring parent, which makes [[spoiler: her death even more horrifying]].
238	* UnintentionalUncannyValley:
239	** ''The Steward''. A human-like face on a StarfishRobot body with a distorted voice and FireballEyeballs.
240	** Tuba's very cartoony face atop her somewhat realistic gorilla body can be quite strange to look at, especially compared to previous animal companions who had more natural looking faces. Overall, this makes her look more like she came straight out of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''.
241	* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
242	** One-One can come across as this in "[[Recap/InfinityTrainS1E2TheBeachCar The Beach Car]]", as we're supposed to think of him as a good friend to Tulip and are supposed to feel sorry for him when she gives him away to the Cat. Even though his [[KnowNothingKnowItAll "advice"]] made her think she's going to ''die'' on the train and his attempts at being a good friend feel more like [[PleaseDontLeaveMe he's trying to guilt-trip her]]. While he is friendly towards Tulip and they both have the same goal, the Cat was ([[AmbiguouslyEvil seemingly]]) trying to help Tulip getting off the train and never indicated that she's planning to harm One-One. Besides that, Tulip and One-One were familiar with each other for a few days at most.
243	** [[spoiler:As of Season 2 and "The Mall Car", Amelia is now heading towards this direction. While yes, her losing Alrick is horrible and she was in a state of mourning, that does ''not'' forgive the fact that her usurping One-One as the Conductor for thirty three years in order to get what she wanted meant that people are fumbling in the dark trying to figure out how to get off the train -- when she could've made the instructional videos instead of going "You're all on your own, farewell" in Book 4 -- and led Grace and numerous kids to see her as a god and equate bigger numbers as a sign of status along with destroying numerous cars and killing its denizens just for some thrills. One-One can't undo what she's done, only help guide new passengers to (hopefully) move forward. Even after she learns about the Apex, she doesn't feel the ''least'' bit sorry as to what she caused, doesn't even remember "saving" Grace all those years ago and tears Simon's reality into confetti without doing anything to confine this dangerous youth for both the safety of himself and others.]]
244	** [[spoiler: While Simon's clearly supposed to be monstrous, he's also supposed to be seen as a misguided TragicVillain and his death is meant with horror instead of rejoice. However, considering how despicably heinous he was, he instead came across as a HateSink who got exactly what was coming to him, and many fans both memed on how satisfying his death was and how surprisingly graphic it was. This has dissipated somewhat in the years since, but is still held by a large portion of the fanbase.]]
245	* ViewerGenderConfusion: From promotional material alone, some aren't quite sure of [[GentleGiant Tuba]]'s gender. The name sounds feminine but promos seem to [[FlipFlopOfGod alternate between "he" and "it"]]. It's later revealed that Tuba is female.
246	* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids:
247	** The show talks about very heavy subjects like divorce, mourning, and passivity in the face of violence and wrongdoing. Owen Dennis has stated [[https://io9.gizmodo.com/infinity-trains-creator-says-the-shows-future-is-in-jeo-1844852183 in interviews]] that the mature subject matter despite the show being marketed towards children rather than teens is one of the bigger hurdles faced when attempting to pitch further seasons. Unfortunately, this is [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzEEmZ1WUAA1uYP?format=png&name=medium exactly what ended up getting the show cancelled]].
248	** The deaths in this show are nothing short of horrifying and makes you wonder ''how'' Owen got away with it. [[spoiler:From Atticus being "shot" in "The Ball Pit Car", to Mace being wheeled in "The Wasteland", to Simon getting ''reduced to nothing but ashes'' in "The New Apex."]]
249	[[/folder]]

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