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| 3 | ->''I felt like I'd just handed Literature/DonQuixote his spurs, or [[Literature/MobyDick Captain Ahab]] his harpoon. And I thought to myself "Bernie, you putz, you're in it now." And with that I consigned myself to weeks of pouring through accounting books, consulting lawyers, calling in favors, twisting nuts, and setting up Hollywood lunches. All to answer the simple question: "how does a frog swallow a mouse a hundred times his size?"'' |
| 4 | -->--'''Bernie Brillstein''', ''Where Did I Go Right?''[[note]]In-Universe book, naturally[[/note]] |
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| 6 | Most people who know about Creator/JimHenson are aware of the fact that, towards the end of his life, he had made an attempt in the late 1980s to get Creator/{{Disney}} to purchase ''Franchise/TheMuppets''[[note]]barring ''Series/SesameStreet''[[/note]] in order to have more freedom to pursue his own projects. At the same time, he was struggling with projects that either [[Film/TheDarkCrystal underperformed]] or [[Series/TheJimHensonHour flopped outright]], before ultimately dying in 1990 from a disease that he was too busy to properly notice. [[WhatIf But what if he decided to get his foot in the door earlier?]] |
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| 8 | In late July 1979, Jim Henson was struggling to get ''Film/TheDarkCrystal'' off the ground, with film studios lacking any interest in picking up the [[PlayingAgainstType decidedly un-Kermit-like pitch]]. At the same time, Disney was struggling to remain afloat, with the death of Creator/WaltDisney just over a decade prior effectively making the company a chicken with its head cut off: flailing around with no clear direction. And had it not been for [[PointOfDivergence a wayward thought crossing Jim's mind while having drinks with his manager]], these paths wouldn't cross for several more years. |
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| 10 | But as you can imagine, that's not how this story goes... |
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| 12 | ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/a-hippie-in-the-house-of-mouse-jim-henson-at-disney-1980.489210/ A Hippie in the House of Mouse (Jim Henson at Disney, 1980)]]'' is a thread and timeline on Platform/AlternateHistoryDotCom by Geekhis Khan, with the PointOfDivergence occuring in late 1979, when Jim Henson and his business manager Bernie Brillstein raise sufficient money to buy roughly 10% of Disney common stock, gaining seats on the Board of Directors for Jim himself and his legal advisor Al Gottesman. The changes from reality pile up from there. In December 2021 (after the page limit of 500 was reached when the date in-universe was 1992), an ImmediateSequel titled ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/when-you-wish-upon-a-frog-book-ii-of-the-jim-henson-at-disney-saga.522021/ When you Wish Upon a Frog (Book II of the Jim Henson at Disney saga)]]'' was published. More threads have also been created, including ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/hensonverse-speculation-and-commentary.529158/ Hensonverse Speculation and Commentary]]'', ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-introduce-our-guest-star-thats-what-im-here-to-do-the-hensonverse-fan-contribution-thread.528020/ To Introduce Our Guest Star, That's What I'm Here to Do]]'' for OfficialFanSubmittedContent, ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-look-of-the-hensonverse.549514/ The look of the Hensonverse]]'' for fan art, and the [[Music/TheCarpenters Karen Carpenter]]-focused TLIAW (timeline in a week) ''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/carpenters-hammer-when-karen-went-punk-a-hensonverse-tliaw.552891/ Carpenter's Hammer: When Karen went Punk]]''. The threads are collectively referred to as "the Hensonverse". |
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| 14 | !!This timeline features the following tropes: |
| 15 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 16 | [[folder:Tropes A-F]] |
| 17 | * ActorAllusion: InUniverse, in ''Mask of the Monkey King'', Abner Ravenwood, played by Creator/DavidCarradine, is asked to take action against a group of ninjas, and replies "Do I look like [[Series/KungFu1972 I know kung fu]]?" |
| 18 | * AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' airs in 1990, two years earlier than OTL. |
| 19 | * AdaptationalNameChange: |
| 20 | ** During UsefulNotes/TheGulfWar, Operation Desert Storm instead is named Operation Desert Sword. |
| 21 | ** Creator/TouchstonePictures is known by its originally intended name, Hyperion Pictures. |
| 22 | ** Creator/CartoonNetwork is instead named Cartoon TV and later Cartoon City (officially Columbia Cartoon City). |
| 23 | ** TTL's Creator/DisneyPlus equivalent is called Disney Direct. |
| 24 | ** The 1996 ''Film/{{Gorgo}}'' remake gives Sean the surname Nilssen and renames Professor Leroy Hendricks as Professor Gerald Hendricks. The plot is different enough that few other characters have counterparts at all, but CorruptCorporateExecutive Martin Dorling serves much the same role as circus owner Andrew Dorkin, and with a slightly similar surname. Gorgo's mother is named [[GenderBlenderName Poseidon]] rather than Ogra. (Although a MythologyGag gives their species as Ogratitans.) |
| 25 | ** Due to marrying Aaron Freeman in 1997, Creator/TaraStrong is known in TTL as Tara Freeman. |
| 26 | ** Since the 1990s, Creator/JudithBarsi goes by Jude Barsi. |
| 27 | ** For the third Star Wars movie, which is initially renamed from ''Return of the Jedi'' to ''Revenge of the Jedi'', a brainstorming session for a new title results in George Lucas taking intern Lisa Henson's suggestion of ''Legacy of the Jedi''. |
| 28 | ** With surveys showing not enough recognition of ''The Literature/{{Ramayana}}'', Disney's animated adaptation is named ''Invincible'', derived from rough translations of Rama's home city, as well as the themes of invincibility and inevitability in the tale. |
| 29 | ** ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' is named ''Astro the Armadillo'' instead, though he is marketed as a hedgehog in Europe and Asia. |
| 30 | ** On ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', Crow and Tom's full names are Crowbot 4DK (instead of Crow T. Robot) and Thaddeus J. Servo, respectively, and Gypsy is renamed to Rosie Rivets. |
| 31 | ** Bean Bunny is known as Benny Bunny. |
| 32 | ** A slight spelling change: the word "[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic brony]]" is spelled "bron'''e'''y". |
| 33 | * AdaptedOut: |
| 34 | ** With Michael Eisner going over to head ABC Motion Pictures with Jeffrey Katzenberg after failing to get into Disney in 1984, ''Film/SpaceCamp'' is not made. |
| 35 | ** Due to the circumstances leading to it's formation being butterflied away[[note]]Michael Eisner and Jeffrey Katzenberg going over to Disney in 1984 and then, Katzenberg being forced out of Disney in 1994, thus leading him to partner with Steven Spielberg and David Geffen[[/note]], Creator/DreamWorksSKG is not formed. |
| 36 | ** With the rise of the "Smart Slasher" trend in the 1980s, and the footnotes confirming that Daniel Harold Rolling (the Gainesville Ripper in OTL) is only able to kill his father in the 1980s before being arrested, Kevin Williamson does not write his ''[[Film/{{Scream}} Scary Movie]]'' screenplay. |
| 37 | * AdaptationRelationshipOverhaul: In TTL's ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Obi-Wan Kenobi and Owen Lars are brothers. |
| 38 | * AdaptationSpeciesChange: In Disney's ''Hiawatha'', Minnehaha's obligatory animal friends are a raccoon named Chibiabos and a hummingbird named Iagoo, named after two human entertainers at Hiawatha's wedding in ''Literature/TheSongOfHiawatha''. |
| 39 | * AdaptationalHeroism: Disney's ''Medusa'' has her as a TragicMonster and the main character, who petrifies Cestus herself, rather than Perseus using her severed head to do so. |
| 40 | * AdaptationalNationality: In the 1996 ''Film/{{Gorgo}}'' remake, the opening scenes are set on the Yorkshire coast rather than a fictional Irish island, so the locals are English. |
| 41 | * AdaptationalVillainy: |
| 42 | ** In contrast, Poseidon ([[JerkassGods who could already be quite nasty]] in the original myths but was usually benign) is the main villain of ''Medusa'', who is portrayed as a toxically insecure {{Jerkass}} who curses Medusa out of spite for turning him down and seeks to overthrow Zeus. |
| 43 | ** A cartoon adaptation of ''ComicStrip/{{Marmaduke}}'' created by Everett Peck turns (or rather restores) the character into a colossal {{Jerkass}} of a bully akin to his earliest appearences. |
| 44 | ** In the ''Star Wars'' sequel trilogy, [[spoiler:Ben Skywalker becomes a Sith apprentice named Vangar Tor]]. |
| 45 | * AlanSmithee: InUniverse, after Peter Jackson is removed from ''Creature from the Black Lagoon'', his script is replaced with a different one started from scratch. When Jackson learns that he has a "Story by" credit in the film, he tells Jeffrey Katzenberg that he would only be credited under a pseudonym. Years later, the pseudonym of "Will Ruck"[[note]]using Jackson's father's name and his mother's maiden name[[/note]] becomes a common pseudonym for screenwriters who do not wish their names attached to a film, just as "Alan Smithee" is used as a pseudonym for directors and producers. |
| 46 | * AllohistoricalAllusion: |
| 47 | ** [[spoiler:The infamous rainbow coat wouldn't be used for [[Series/DoctorWho the Sixth Doctor]], due to Creator/ColinBaker being allowed to have a darker outfit. Instead, it would be used (albeit refitted) for the ''[[Creator/RichardGriffiths Seventh]]'' [[Creator/RichardGriffiths Doctor]].]] |
| 48 | *** Similarly, although the show is butterflied away due to a certain casting choice for the Eighth Doctor, [[spoiler:technically speaking, Creator/NeilPatrickHarris still gets to say his first big role [[Series/DoogieHowserMd was as a doctor]]]]. |
| 49 | ** For his first Batman film, it’s stated that Creator/SamRaimi wanted to use [[Film/BatmanBegins Scarecrow]] and saved ComicBook/TheJoker for [[Film/TheDarkKnight the sequel]]. |
| 50 | ** The theme of power and responsibility in Raimi's ''Man of Steel'' means he describes it as "[[Film/SpiderManTrilogy my Spider-Man movie]]". |
| 51 | *** Many fans lament on the fact that they will never get to see Superman battle nuclear war in ''[[Film/SupermanIVTheQuestForPeace Superman IV]]'', due to the film's production being stopped by Warner Bros the moment they brought the rights back from the Salkinds. |
| 52 | ** When Jim discusses whether Ride/TheEnchantedTikiRoom is culturally problematic with actual Polynesians, one of them says "I hate to think of what [[WesternAnimation/{{Moana}} you’d do with Maui]]." |
| 53 | ** Creator/JoelSchumacher emphasising the bodylines of Superman's costume in ''The Long Arm of Lex Luthor'' led to a rumour that he wanted it to have visible nipples. Schumacher's response to this rumour was "That'd be much more appropriate to a leatherboy like [[Film/BatmanForever Bat]][[Film/BatmanAndRobin man]]". |
| 54 | ** The account of making the WED Signature Series adaptation of ''Literature/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame'', complete with a tragic ending, mentions twice that this is not the kind of animated film that has [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney singing gargoyles]]. |
| 55 | ** The synopsis of ''Literature/AnansiBoys'', which in this universe is a stop-motion film starring Creator/WillSmith and Jazzy Jeff, manages to include a riff on "[[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir my life got flipped, turned upside down]]". |
| 56 | ** With [[Creator/TriStarPictures Tri-Star]] executives wanting advanced CGI and animatronics for ''[[Music/JeffWaynesMusicalVersionOfTheWarOfTheWorlds The War of the Worlds]]'', Creator/TimBurton and Creator/HenrySelick (who wanted "deliberately cheesy Harryhausen-style stop-motion") are given a compromise in the form of a short film called ''Mars Attacks!'', based on the old trading cards of the same name. Afterwards, producer David Lazer mentions that some people loved the short much better than the film and actually wished that the [[Film/MarsAttacks ''Mars Attacks!'' short had been made into a film instead]]. |
| 57 | ** In an interview looking back on ''Godzilla: Lord of Fire'' with United Productions of America (UPA)’s Henry Saperstein and Ricardo Delgado, they mention that the decision to set the film in Hawaii was because it would have been "tacky to have [[Film/Godzilla1998 Godzilla plough through Manhattan just because it’s an "American Godzilla"]]. |
| 58 | ** During a Disney board meeting regarding hotels, Jim Henson describes Walt Disney World's Polynesian Resort as "a trip to Tahiti", which is [[Series/AgentsOfSHIELD "a magical place"]]. |
| 59 | ** ''Franchise/{{Terminator}} 3: No Fate'' introduces a young teenage girl, played by Creator/BryceDallasHoward, who forms a [[Film/TerminatorSalvation relationship with John Connor]]. |
| 60 | ** Creator/RobMcElhenney and Creator/GlennHowerton still star in a sitcom specifically ''[[Series/That70sShow The Kids Are Alright]]'' instead of ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''. |
| 61 | ** This timeline's version of ''Film/TheFifthElement'' is compared in a review to the Creator/PhilipKDick adaptation ''Recall'' ... if ''Recall'' had been [[Film/TotalRecall1990 a blockbuster action film]]. |
| 62 | ** After Stanley Gold inquires on the possibility of Disney merging with Creator/{{Lucasfilm}} and thus making ''Star Wars'' a Disney IP, after ''[[Film/ThePhantomMenace A Darkness Rising]]'' is released, Creator/GeorgeLucas remarks "It'll be a cold day in hell before I sell ''Star Wars'' to Disney!" |
| 63 | ** In 1991's ''Muppets: [[Series/MissionImpossible Impossible]]'', Creator/TomCruise appears as a dying [[Film/MissionImpossibleFilmSeries IMF spy]]. |
| 64 | ** The discussion of how musicals became the TV trend of the 2000s features an intentionally absurd list of what the new trend ''could'' have been, all of which ''did'' happen OTL (''I'm With Busey'', ''Series/WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire'', ''Celebrity Series/{{Masterchef}}'' and all similar shows, and ''Series/{{Lost}}''): |
| 65 | ---> Let’s face it. Anything truly fresh and original was bound to break out in that era. They could have followed Creator/GaryBusey around with a camera. They could have brought back ''Series/The64000Question'' starring Creator/RegisPhilbin or launched celebrity cooking competitions. They could have mixed ''Series/ThePrisoner'' with ''Series/GilligansIsland'' and marketed it as a cerebral action-drama and it would have been a breakout hit at that point. |
| 66 | ** When the two lead animators for ''Heart of Ice'', Disney's 1998 adaptation of ''Literature/TheSnowQueen'', are interviewed, one laments that the technology wasn't ready for this to be the first CGI Disney Princess movie, and the other tells her "Brenda ... [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 let it go]]." |
| 67 | ** This timeline's version of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory1'' is called ''Secret Life of Toys'', which in our timeline was TheSeries of ''Film/TheChristmasToy''. In further irony, the film is intentionally ''less'' like ''The Christmas Toy'' than it is OTL, while also including a few deliberate nods to its predecessor. |
| 68 | ** A very late chapter has the classic allohistorical allusion set up: Jim wondering what would have happened if he hadn't gone to Disney, and went to Lew Grade with a two-picture deal for ''Film/TheDarkCrystal''. Bernie believes that he'd probably have been screwed over when Robert Holmes à Court bought ATV (which is what happened OTL; Henson ended up having to buy his own film back), that Holmes à Court would then have bought Disney and sold it for parts like he did with ATV (which did ''not'' happen OTL) and questions whether "Disney would ever be in bed with [[Creator/AmblinEntertainment Amblin]] and [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel]] and ''Star Wars'' without you there to facilitate" (which is... complicated, especially since it's only 1999). |
| 69 | ** Creator/SamuelLJackson narrates a documentary on rattlesnakes, named [[Film/SnakesOnAPlane Snakes on the Plain]]. |
| 70 | ** Howard Ashman mentions that instead of Freddy Mercury's "Rock Wagner" approach, he would have made ''[[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 The Little Mermaid]]'' calypso and turned Clarence (TTL's version of Sebastian) into a Jamaican. |
| 71 | ** After concerns are raised about the title of the TV series ''Handmade Video'', alternative titles are searched, including "the abysmally droll [[Platform/YouTube You-Tube]]". |
| 72 | * AnthropomorphicAnimalAdaptation: |
| 73 | ** Creator/DonBluth and Michael Eisner's ''Retriever'' is loosely based on ''Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye'' with a canine cast. |
| 74 | ** This timeline's version of ''WesternAnimation/{{The Lion King|1994}}'' is based on the Mali ''[[Myth/MandeMythology Epic of Sundiata]]'', rather than ''Hamlet''. |
| 75 | ** Universal's adaptation of ''Literature/TheCanterburyTales'' is basically this, and even called upon by some critics (and confirmed by the film's directors) as being similar to [[WesternAnimation/RobinHood1973 Disney's]] ''[[WesternAnimation/RobinHood1973 Robin Hood]]''. |
| 76 | * AwardBaitSong: |
| 77 | ** For 1986's ''Literature/WhereTheWildThingsAre'', the Music/MichaelJackson cover of ''Love is the Greatest Magic off All'' and George Thorogood cover of ''Be the Beast I Wanna’ Be'', are considered by some as the earliest examples. |
| 78 | ** Howard Ashman writes up one, ''The Song of Susan'', for the film of the same name, which is performed by Music/FreddieMercury. |
| 79 | ** Freddie Mercury writes up and performs an "Oscar bait" song for ''Mask of [[Franchise/TheLoneRanger the Lone Ranger]]'' with ''Truth Lives On Forever''. |
| 80 | ** Music/DollyParton writes and performs ''The Ballad of Forrest Gump'' for the end credits of ''Film/ForrestGump''. |
| 81 | * BaitAndSwitch: An ongoing thread in the latter portion of ''When You Wish Upon a Frog'' was a movie Jim was pushing for now that he became head chairman of Disney, called ''The Road to Ruin'', a throwback to the Hollywood Musical era of cinema to be directed by Creator/FrancisFordCoppola... that quickly became infamous for going severely over-budget to the point where not only were the board members becoming increasingly critical of Jim's insistence on backing it, but Hollywood at large was getting ready to declare it another "Henson's Folly"[[note]]referring to Jim Henson's backing of ''Film/{{Toys}}'', which was still a failure in this timeline[[/note]]. [[spoiler:[[FailedFutureForecast It wound up becoming a box office smash hit]] (thanks in part to [[ReversePsychology a marketing campaign coined up by Mel Brooks and Bernie Brillstein that leaned in on the negative press]]).]] |
| 82 | * BenevolentBoss: As IOTL, Jim Henson is beloved by those who work under him because he constantly stands up for and vouches for them; up to eleven when he sheds his conflict-avoidant tendencies (something of a FatalFlaw he had in our world) and finds ways to resolve disputes without upsetting people. Even notoriously difficult people like Creator/TerryGilliam come to appreciate working with him. |
| 83 | * BigLippedAlligatorMoment: InUniverse: |
| 84 | ** Mentioned by name in the synopsis of TTL's ''Film/ForrestGump'', when Bubba's death leads to Forrest having a hallucination of [[UsefulNotes/{{Discordianism}} the goddess Eris]], in an animated sequence where she and Forrest sing "Gimme Shelter". |
| 85 | ** Mentioned again in the synopsis of ''Hawaiian Vamps'', where the vampires see a werewolf on top of a building, make a comment suggesting FurAgainstFang applies in this setting, and then move on, never to mention the existence of werewolves again. The whole point of the scene is a cheap pun that, at least in Hawai'i, the FantasticSlur for werewolves is "howlies", pronounced like "haoles". Since the whole point of the ''entire film'' is [[https://liveukulele.com/lessons/hawaiian-vamp-turnaround/ a cheap pun]], this is presumably par for the course. |
| 86 | * BreakingTheFourthWall: [[spoiler:[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/a-hippie-in-the-house-of-mouse-jim-henson-at-disney-1980.489210/page-476#post-22585609 The post concerning]] MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks is repeatedly vandalized by ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} due to the fact that he was butterflied away. To rub salt in the wound, ComicBook/AmbushBug pops his head in to confirm that ''he'' wasn't.]] |
| 87 | * CallARabbitASmeerp: |
| 88 | ** The Video Compact Disk is TTL's equivalent to the Platform/{{DVD}}. |
| 89 | ** Online streaming is known as "direct play" and "direct viewing". |
| 90 | ** Memes are called “netwits”. |
| 91 | ** Websites are known as "netsites". |
| 92 | ** Blogs are known as "netblogs". |
| 93 | ** The intelephone is TTL's equivalent to the smartphone. |
| 94 | * CallASmeerpARabbit: The name N-Gage refers to a television channel instead of [[Platform/NGage a video game console]]. |
| 95 | * CanonWelding: |
| 96 | ** The ''Duck Avenger'' cartoon (''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' only it's ''[[Comicbook/PaperinikNewAdventures Paperinik]]'') has a cameo by Comicbook/SpiderHam. Which means that the Disney Duck Universe has to be assigned a number in the Marvel Multiverse (Earth-3825, which spells "DUCK" on a keypad). Similarly, ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' is assigned Earth-78663 to facilitate crossovers, which is "STONE". |
| 97 | ** ''Pirates of the Void'', a ''WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet'' spin-off series, is tied into ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'' and subsequently visits all the major ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' settings. |
| 98 | ** The Creator/QuentinTarantino film ''Aimless Drifters'' is set in the Creator/CoenBrothers' 'Verse, being a {{Prequel}} to ''[[Film/{{Fargo}} Brainard]]'', and a [[StealthSequel Stealth Prequel]] to ''[[Film/TheBigLebowski The Buddha of the Sunset Strip]]''. It also features cameos by characters from ''Film/ReservoirDogs'', ''Film/ElMariachi'' and Creator/SamRaimi's ''Relentless'', apparently making the Tarantinoverse, the Cohenverse, the Mexico Trilogy and the Raimiverse all the same setting. |
| 99 | * CaptainErsatz: ''Pirates of the Void'' also visits a totally-not-based-on-a-series-of-books [[Franchise/{{Discworld}} flat planet on the back of a turtle]], which [[Literature/TheLightFantastic believes that a mysterious red star is heralding the end of the world]]. They did check with Creator/TerryPratchett and make sure that he was cool with this. |
| 100 | * CastingGag: |
| 101 | ** Having played Anansi the Spider three times in separate works, Creator/WhoopiGoldberg voices the title role in a live action ''Literature/CharlottesWeb''. She also makes a cameo as a Black Widow in ''[[WesternAnimation/ABugsLife Bug Life]]''. |
| 102 | ** ''Sparky'', one of two films created from what IOTL became ''Franchise/{{Cars}}'', has a running gag of [[Film/SmokeyAndTheBandit a police car named Smokey chasing a black Trans Am named Bandit]], with ''both'' characters voiced by Creator/BurtReynolds, who does his best Creator/JackieGleason impression for the former. |
| 103 | * CharacterNameAndTheNounPhrase: Doesn't exist, at least not to the same extent as our timeline. The later ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' films follow the example of ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' in being named after the McGuffin, and as a result [[Creator/JKRowling Jo Rowling]]'s novels about the boy wizard [[Franchise/HarryPotter Harry Fletcher]] don't use it either. |
| 104 | * CompositeCharacter: In universe: |
| 105 | ** The sixteenth ''Franchise/JamesBond'' film (titled ''A Quantum of Solace'', but as unrelated to our timeline's ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' as either of them are to the short story) mixes elements of two stories from the ''Literature/ForYourEyesOnly'' collection, so that Kristatos, the informant (and [[spoiler: actual villain]]) of "Risico" is a code name for Milton Krest, the millionaire from "The Hildebrand Rarity". |
| 106 | ** The Disney version of ''Hiawatha'' combines the actual Native American legend with elements of the Creator/HenryWadsworthLongfellow version. The love interest is named Minnehaha, because that's the name a general audience is likely to know, but is more based on Jigonhsaseh, the Mother of Many Nations (and renamed as such at the end), while the villainous sorcerer is Tadodaho, but wears a black pearl and a vulture feather in a nod to Longfellow's Pearl-Feather. |
| 107 | ** ''WesternAnimation/{{The Lion King|1994}}'', which is based on the ''[[Myth/MandeMythology Epic of Sundiata]]'', merges the soothsaying hunter, Sundiata's personal griot and blacksmith Nounfari into the shaman/griot of Nounfari, voiced by Creator/HarryBelafonte. |
| 108 | ** The Creator/DonBluth adaptation of ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast'' makes the Prince's mother the sorceress who cast the curse, and also combines three characters from ''Film/BeautyAndTheBeast1946'' (Avenant, Ludvic and the Userer) into Avenant the Moneylender. |
| 109 | ** Out-of-universe, TTL's Sal Minella has the name of OTL's monkey Muppet, but is closer to OTL's Johnny Fiama. |
| 110 | * ContinuityCameo: In universe: |
| 111 | ** In ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Star Trek: Discovery]]'', Creator/WalterKoenig cameos as a Tellurite, Creator/GeorgeTakei as an Andorian, Creator/NichelleNichols as a Klingon matriarch and Creator/RobertEnglund (the actor of TTL's Data) as her son, and Creator/WilliamShatner as Chef Bill. |
| 112 | * ContinuitySnarl: Tara Freeman is still referred to as her married name (rather than her maiden name Charendoff) in Jude Barsi's 1996 interview and other posts set around that time period, despite not assuming said name until she married Aaron Freeman in 1997. |
| 113 | * CreatorCameo: In-universe: |
| 114 | ** For ''[[WesternAnimation/OliverAndCompany Oliver and The Dodger]]'', Jim Henson performs Rowlf the Dog, who provides the role of the narrator. |
| 115 | *** In ''The Muppets Do Shakespeare'', even though he has effectively handed off the day-to-day performance of Kermit to Steve Whitmire at this point, Jim still voices Rowlf, who provides the narration. |
| 116 | *** For ''[[Film/TurkeyHollow The Musical Monsters of Turkey Hill]]'', directed by his daughter Cheryl, Jim returns as Kermit, who "hosts". |
| 117 | ** Disney's animated ''Literature/{{Mort}}'' has cameos of Creator/TerryPratchett and Jim Henson as the Lecturer in Recent Runes and the Senior Wrangler. They reprise the roles in Fox's live-action ''Literature/EqualRites''. |
| 118 | ** ''Film/ForrestGump'', which is much closer to the book than OTL, cameos Winston Groom as Forrest's father, and co-writer/producer Creator/CarrieFisher as Jenny's mother. |
| 119 | ** The writer and producer of ''Hawaiian Vamps'' play [[DeathByCameo the vampires' first victims]]. |
| 120 | ** Creator/StanLee makes cameos as a reporter in ''Spider-Man'', the driver of a Hulk-wrecked car in ''The Incredible Hulk'', the Mayor of New York City in ''Spider-Man 3'', an Latverian Captain in ''The Fantastic Four'', a jailer in ''Black Panther'', a SHIELD agent in ''The Mighty Thor'', an US Army Signal Corps officer in ''Captain America'' and a protestor (alongside ''The Incredible Hulk'' and ''Black Panther'' director Ernest Dickerson) in ''Fantastic Four: Rise and Fall''. |
| 121 | ** Creator/WaltSimonson also appears in ''The Mighty Thor'' as a historian named Dr John [[Creator/JackKirby Kirby]]. (There's also a Simonson University.) |
| 122 | ** ''Rogue Planet'', loosely based on Creator/ArthurCClarke's ''Hammer of God'', features Clarke as a government scientist. |
| 123 | ** In ''[[Film/AttackOfTheClones Star Wars Episode II - The Hidden Army]]'', Creator/GeorgeLucas makes a cameo, in alien makeup, as the image of Senator Glurpdurp. |
| 124 | ** Just like OTL, Creator/BradBird voices Edna Mode in ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles1''. |
| 125 | ** In ''[[WesternAnimation/ABugsLife Bug Life]]'', Disney's [[Creator/{{Pixar}} Digital Division]] head Creator/JoeRanft voices the caterpillar Heimlich, a role he reprises for Disney's Millennium celebrations. |
| 126 | * CreatorsFavorite: InUniverse. |
| 127 | ** In ''[[Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark Jurassic Park II: The Lost World]]'', Winona Ryder's favourite dinosaurs are the ''Oviraptors'', Sam Raimi's is the ''Pachycephalosaurus'', Caroline Thompson's is the ''T.rex'' and Tim Burton's are the ''Velociraptors''. |
| 128 | ** Creator/UdoKier names Red Skull as his favourite role, saying that he would play the character "a thousand times". |
| 129 | * {{Crossover}}: An crossover special between the Disney characters and Franchise/TheMuppets airs in 1980, in which the Disney characters must run ''Series/TheMuppetShow'' while the Muppets head to Disneyland to begin their new "Live Show" (a back-door promotion for the new ''Muppets Live!'' animatronic show at Disneyland and Disney World). |
| 130 | * CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler: Creator/BruceCampbell notes this world's ''Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark'' (directed here by Creator/SamRaimi) has such a death for his Peter Ludlow in the R-rated cut: [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe bitten in half]] by a T. Rex with a close up of his legs twitching and blood spraying.]] |
| 131 | * TheDanza: InUniverse: |
| 132 | ** Creator/WillSmith as Will Holmes in ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}: West Coast Ghosts'' and as Cousin Will in ''Series/InTheHouse''. |
| 133 | ** In an amusing coincidence, the title character in the 2000 remake of ''Film/DrNo'' is played by [[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0633389/ David Will No]]. |
| 134 | ** Creator/JamieFoxx as Ferdinand “Fox” Jameson in ''[[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir Yo Homes to Bel Air]]''. |
| 135 | ** Creator/TimAllen as Tim Stone in ''[[Series/HomeImprovement Internal Combustion]]''. |
| 136 | ** Creator/DennisHopper voicing the grasshopper Hopper in ''Bug Life''. |
| 137 | * DeathByAdaptation: |
| 138 | ** [[Music/TheCarpenters Richard Carpenter]] dies of a drug overdose in 1981. |
| 139 | ** Creator/CoreyFeldman is killed in March 1990 in a car crash. |
| 140 | ** Creator/RobertDowneyJr is killed in a crash with a driver using a cellphone in June 1998. |
| 141 | ** Creator/CharlieSheen dies of AIDS-related pneumonia in May 1994. |
| 142 | ** Anthony Kiedis dies from a drug overdose in 1993. |
| 143 | ** Creator/JohnKricfalusi commits suicide in 1997. |
| 144 | * DecompositeCharacter: Working on ''The Mighty Thor'', Creator/NeilGaiman and Creator/SamRaimi are intrigued by the way early ''Thor'' comics portray Donald Blake as a random guy who ''happens'' to get the powers of Thor (before Stan and Jack established that he was always Thor, sentenced to live as an amnesiac mortal until he learned humility) and bring it back, with the actual Thor spending most of the movie as a SpiritAdvisor within the hammer. This in turn inspires the comics to introduce a TheRealRemingtonSteele version of Blake. |
| 145 | * DiesDifferentlyInAdaptation: |
| 146 | ** Creator/CoreyHaim dies of a heroin overdose in October 1989. |
| 147 | ** Music/MichaelJackson dies of complications from surgery in 1986. |
| 148 | ** Creator/JoelSchumacher, after suffering the first symptoms of AIDS in 1995, undergoes a doctor-assisted suicide. |
| 149 | ** Bill Gates is killed in a helicopter crash in Spring 1994. |
| 150 | ** Music/TheNotoriousBig dies in a DUI in 2003, not a drive-by-shooting in 1997. |
| 151 | * DifferentWorldDifferentMovies: [[DifferentWorldDifferentMovies/AHippieInTheHouseOfMouse Has its own page]]. |
| 152 | * {{Disneyfication}}: [[invoked]] [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]]: After it's decided to greenlight ''ComicBook/{{Maus}}'' for the first film made for the Walter Elias Disney Signature Series, Bernie Brillstein immediately hit a roadblock in the form of Creator/ArtSpiegelman refusing to even ''consider'' Disney touching his comic. It takes Bernie[[note]]along with Creator/StevenSpielberg and Creator/MelBrooks, also desiring to get the movie made[[/note]] emphasizing that they are being ''genuine and serious'' in making this movie that he agrees to it. |
| 153 | -->Naturally, we almost immediately ran into a roadblock. [[DudeNotFunny Art Spiegelman slammed the phone in my ear when I called.]] He refused to even ''consider'' a Disney film of ''Maus''. [[SelfDeprecation Honestly, I don't blame him.]] [[TheDeterminator I also don't just give up.]] Steve [Spielberg] and I practically stalked the poor bastard until he agreed to meet with us. We met him (sort of ironically) at Katz's, along with Mel Brooks. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids "No fucking costumes," Art said, meaning the walkarounds. "No rides, no T-shirts, no toys, nothing. And sure as hell no fucking songs!"]]\ |
| 154 | [[WhatTheHellHero "What kind of asshole do you think I am?" I asked him. "None of those things were ever on the table!"]] |
| 155 | * DisabledInTheAdaptation: |
| 156 | ** In Disney's ''Medusa'', Perseus is blind, enabling him to interact with Medusa before she gets control of her powers. He can sometimes see through the eyes of his pet owl, though. |
| 157 | ** Screenwriter Diane Thomas suffers a car accident in 1989 that leaves her paralysed from the waist down. |
| 158 | * DramaticIrony: As noted by Jim himself, who wasn't particularly happy with how war-driven ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'' was, unlike [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie the Transformers movie]], ''[[WesternAnimation/GIJoeTheMovie GI Joe's]]'' movie didn't see anyone die. |
| 159 | -->And Jim Henson noted, wryly, that while ''Transformers: The Movie'' had been a slaughterhouse, no one had actually died in ''GI Joe: The Movie'', the "violent" series that he’d been so viscerally opposed to. |
| 160 | * DuelingMovies: InUniverse: |
| 161 | ** Michael Eisner deliberately pits ''Return of the Littles'' against Disney's ''A Small World'', both featuring a WainscotSociety of {{Lilliputians}}. Disney wins handily. |
| 162 | ** Hollywood Pictures' ''Heart and Soul'', based on the legend of Eros and Psyche, goes up against Disney's ''Medusa''. This time Hollywood Pictures wins, despite Katzenburg stopping just short of sabotaging it. |
| 163 | ** Upon hearing that Hollywood Pictures is releasing Creator/MikeMyers' spy parody centered around [[Film/AustinPowers Basil Shagwell]], Michael Eisner gets Columbia to pick up Creator/RowanAtkinson's own spy parody film, centered around [[Film/JohnnyEnglish Lord James Henry "Alby" Albion]]. |
| 164 | ** When Katzenberg briefly goes from sabotaging the animation studio to boosting it (before just deciding to ignore it after the "failure" of ''[[WesternAnimation/SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron Spirit of the West]]''), he doubles down on pitting the movies against Disney ones since it worked before, setting ''[[WesternAnimation/TheRoadToElDorado City of Gold]]'' against Disney's ''[[WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove City of the Sun]]'', ''WesternAnimation/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' against Disney's ''Literature/JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth'', ''[[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars John Carter and the Princess of Mars]]'' against Columbia's ''Franchise/{{Tarzan}}'', and ''Literature/TheCanterburyTales'' against Columbia's ''[[WesternAnimation/RockADoodle Ruler of the Roost]]''. |
| 165 | ** In 1998, ''three'' animated movies duel it out between each other, with Disney's ''Heart of Ice'', versus Universal's ''East of the Sun and West of the Moon'' versus Columbia's ''Beauty and the Beast''. |
| 166 | ** It's not emphasised like other examples and is mostly coincidence, but 1998 has both Marvel and DC releasing [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/when-you-wish-upon-a-frog-book-ii-of-the-jim-henson-at-disney-saga.522021/page-258#post-23766441 two]] [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-introduce-our-guest-star-thats-what-im-here-to-do-the-hensonverse-fan-contribution-thread.528020/page-35#post-23741942 films]] with their most famous feline-themed characters respectively: ComicBook/BlackPanther and ComicBook/{{Catwoman}}. |
| 167 | ** In 1999, two disaster movies go head to head, with Universal's ''The Rogue Planet'' (based of Creator/ArthurCClarke's ''The Hammer of God'' and ''Film/WhenWorldsCollide'') and Columbia's ''Literature/LucifersHammer''. |
| 168 | ** When Creator/JohnLasseter moves from Disney to Blue Sky Studios, he takes the idea of [[Franchise/{{Cars}} an animated movie about anthropomorphic cars with him]], ''without'' telling them that Disney is already working on it. The result is that Blue Sky's ''American Car'' is dueling with Disney's ''Sparky'', whether they want it to or not. |
| 169 | * DuelingShows: InUniverse, Spielberg's stronger links to Disney mean that his ideas for OTL's ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' become ''Out of the Vault!'', a show starring Mortimer Mouse (a version of the scrappy original Mickey, supposed to be Mickey's older brother), plus WesternAnimation/OswaldTheLuckyRabbit and Ortensia, after Spielberg uses his connections at Creator/{{Universal}} to get them back under the Disney banner. Meanwhile, at Warner Brothers, Jean [=MacCurdy=] and Tom Ruegger's ideas for ''Animaniacs'' become, well, ''Animaniacs'', but with Ruegger's original platypus versions of the Warners. The two shows frequently take friendly potshots at each other, culminating in an official crossover where they all get captured by a team up of Pete and Ralph, and need to resolve their differences before being rescued by Mickey and Bugs. |
| 170 | * EverybodyHatesHades: ''The Poet and the Dragon'' makes King Yan, the stern but fair judge of the Chinese underworld, a power-hungry villain not entirely dissimilar to Hades in OTL's ''WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}}''. |
| 171 | * ExecutiveMeddling: {{Invoked}} in multiple cases: |
| 172 | ** Attempts to pull DuellingMovies, including Disney on their early 1980s competitors, tend to be self-sabotage. Further, Michael Eisner and Jeffrey Katzenberg’s attempt to kill ''[[Literature/MistressMashamsRepose A Small World]]'' by releasing ''[[Literature/TheLittles Return of the Littles]]'' the week before backfires due to both the crunch to reach the release and Katzenberg’s cutting the film (as he did to ''WesternAnimation/TheBlackCauldron'' in our world) ruining the final product. |
| 173 | ** Creator/SamRaimi was forced to use the Joker in ''Batman'', despite [[Film/TheDarkKnight wanting to save him for a potential sequel]]; [[Film/BatmanBegins Scarecrow was his preference choice]] for the BigBad. |
| 174 | ** The 1998 remake of ''Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon'' becomes a troubled production due to Katzenberg's interference. At first, his attempts to try and make the Gill-man more a straight out monster than an intelligent humanoid amphibian-creature, and turning the film from original director and writer Creator/PeterJackson's dark fantasy into a standard horror film, result in Jackson departing, with executive producer Creator/RobertZemeckis following suit in protest. Later, after the hiring of Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin to continue the film, a film crew is written into the film to provide comic relief, with a wise-cracking cameraman played by Creator/AndyDick (against the wishes of Emmerich, as the role was originally written for Creator/SteveBuscemi), who engages in wild behaviour throughout the production. Due to Andy Dick being the lead of ''The Andy Dick Show'', one of ABC's top hits, the studio resists all calls to fire him. Furthermore, the studio prevents Emmerich and Devlin from rewriting the script (which was described as being "one rewrite away from being good") and test screening the film, in order to keep its Memorial Day release date (going so far as to refuse Emmerich's suggestion of pushing it forward to Labor Day). |
| 175 | * {{Facepalm}}: As the Good Shepherds' claims of morality are rebuffed by Disney during their proxy battle, Nelson Peltz is noted to have been "seen burying his face in his palm". |
| 176 | * FairForItsDay: [[invoked]] Noted by the retrospective post on ''The Song of Susan'', that while it cast a straight female as the lead and had Richard Hunt play the {{Deuteragonist}}, it was nonetheless pushing back against the stigma of the time and trying to appeal to those who were shunning the gay community. It also laid the groundwork for ''[[Film/{{Philadelphia}} Without Prejudice]]'' to be released just two years later. |
| 177 | * FantasticRacism: ''Roger Rabbit 3: Bunny in the 'Burbs'' plays up the anti-Toon prejudice seen in [[Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit the first movie]], with the StepfordSuburbia's reaction to Roger and Jessica moving in being based on the real world reaction 1950s suburbia had to African-Americans. |
| 178 | * FictionalSocialNetwork: In one of the epilogue posts, Terrell Little reveals he's currently running the Disney-MGM Lilypad and Kameleon accounts. Kameleon posts are called "Hisses". |
| 179 | * {{Foreshadowing}}: Metatextually, the fact that [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/a-hippie-in-the-house-of-mouse-jim-henson-at-disney-1980.489210/post-22035954 the post]] concerning ''Series/QuantumLeap'', a show built on SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, preceded the final update of Part VII, [[spoiler:which reveals Jim lives past 1990 ITTL]]. |
| 180 | -->Does it make the pain of [[spoiler:losing a loved one]] all the more painful by giving us a subconscious feeling that this is "not the way it's supposed to be?" |
| 181 | * FourTemperamentEnsemble: |
| 182 | ** Creator/JossWhedon specifically describes the ComicBook/FantasticFour in these terms: the intellectual, reserved Reed is Melancholic, the caring, hardworking Sue is Phlegmatic, the hotheaded, arrogant Johnny is Sanguine, and the dour, argumentative Ben is Choleric. |
| 183 | ** The "Harry Fletcher" books, this timeline's version of Franchise/HarryPotter, assigns the four temperaments to each Hogwarts House[[note]]Gryffynhart is Sanguine, Slythryus is Choleric, Corvidious is Melacholic and Burleighnohn is Phlegmatic[[/note]] and therefore to the four main characters, one from each House. |
| 184 | * FromTheMouthsOfBabes: During Lisa Henson's wedding, it's noted that Kevin Clash (as [[Series/SesameStreet Elmo]]) performed inappropriate songs. |
| 185 | [[/folder]] |
| 186 | [[folder:Tropes G-M]] |
| 187 | * GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: [[invoked]]. |
| 188 | ** In this case, Japanese Love Halyx. After successful summer engagements at Disneyland and Epcot Center in 1982, Disney arranges for Halyx to play a week of shows in Tokyo Disneyland, and a rabid fandom for the band springs up overnight; a promotional single released in Japan actually charts in the Oricon top 10. A hastily arranged multi-city tour (the first of many) follows -- not to mention, eventually, a licensed cartoon created by Creator/ToeiAnimation that developed a fandom of it's own; for a lot of Japanese kids in 1983, the ''Halyx'' show WAS their ''Franchise/StarWars''. |
| 189 | ** The Japanese appreciation for ''Film/TheDarkCrystal'' is also addressed and expanded; after being upset at the film’s lukewarm US reception (if still better than our timeline’s), Henson is floored when, during a trip to Tokyo, he sees how much more love the film got, even overshadowing his bigger franchises. This implicitly helps bolster its reputation into being a Disney classic, with successful games, a movie sequel a few years later and even a TV show. |
| 190 | ** They also love ''Film/{{Waterworld}}'', here a family-oriented B-Movie produced by Creator/RogerCorman, to the point some anime and games take influence from it. |
| 191 | * GenderFlip: In the 1990 ''Buck Rogers'' series, Twikki is a FemBot voiced by Fran Brill. |
| 192 | * GenerationXerox: In 1993, an 30th Anniversary Special of ''Series/DoctorWho'', "Calling All Doctors" includes an appearance from all previous Doctors, including the 3rd Doctor, played by Creator/JonPertwee's son, Creator/SeanPertwee. This is all part of a lead-up for Sean to become the 10th Doctor in 1997. |
| 193 | * GettingCrapPastTheRadar: InUniverse, this is the case for ''both'' series that take the place of ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'': the Spielberg-less show by that title, despite starring three male platypi, is close enough to our version to include stuff like the "fingerprints" gag. Meanwhile, Spielberg's ''Out of the Vault!'' for Disney has jokes that make Roy E. Disney furious once someone explains them to him, often involving the characters' tails. |
| 194 | ** This possibly applies to the butterfly when Haim Saban, while looking for material for a show to help Creator/{{ABC}} cash in on the 1980's and 1990's trend of {{Spooky Kids Media}} horror/sci-fi shows for kids, comes across a copy of British author Jamie Rix's ''Literature/{{Grizzly Tales for Gruesome Kids}}'' in late 1992, leading to an animated series that, while heavily Americanised, has its source material (often involving the horrific, supernatural deaths or disfigurements of the stories' bratty child protagonists) virtually unchanged. |
| 195 | * GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion: |
| 196 | ** With the fourth ''Willow'' film, ''Shadow Star'' showing relatively small armies of extras on the battlefields, the disappointed George Lucas later digitally remasters the film to add larger armies, as well as smooth out effects limitations of the era, with him going so far as to replacing the go-motion animated objects in the first film with CGI, to much controversy. |
| 197 | ** The Star Wars Original Trilogy gets digitally-remastered "Special Editions" as in OTL, but due to Lisa Henson ([[spoiler:who is working as the head of Fox Studios at that point]]) being tasked to work with Lucas, she manages to convince Lucasfilm to retain copies of the masters of the original films “as historical documents worth preserving”, as well as working around the "Han and Jabba" scene in Episode IV by simply suggesting that Jabba could be a hologram, and convincing Lucas to keep the "Han shoots Greedo first" scene. |
| 198 | *** After being impressed with the "all-digital" Yoda, Moog and Ba-Ba utilised for ''The Hidden Army'', Lucas digitally inserts the all-CG Yoda and the all-CG Moog/Ba-Ba over the Yoda/Moog/Ba-Ba originally filmed in ''A Darkness Rising'', similar to Lucas replacing the puppet Yoda with a CGI Yoda in re-releases of OTL's ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. |
| 199 | ** With ''Terminator 3: No Fate'' casting Creator/BruceWillis as General John Connor, Creator/JamesCameron reshoots a scene from the opening of ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'', to replace Michael Edwards as adult John Connor, with Willis in his place. |
| 200 | ** ''Jurassic Park'' has two special editions, the first one being a "Drive-In Matinee Edition" which is [[DeliberatelyMonochrome in black and white]] via digital colouring techniques, and a second being a "[[Creator/RayHarryhausen Harry]][[Creator/EdWood wood]] Edition", which replaces the CG and animatronics with stop-motion and forced perspective techniques, which was Burton's original intention for the film to portray the dinosaurs in a very deliberately dated way. |
| 201 | * GreedyJew: Subverted for Nelson Peltz, who is made out as one when he lists all of his hypothetical "improvements" to Disney (which involve making massive cuts solely to save money) in his plans for a hostile takeover in 1998, but after Disney makes its case against the Good Shepherds with (among others) several prominent Jewish figures, he is shown to be willing to cooperate with Jim Henson to keep Disney financially stable. |
| 202 | * HardWorkFallacy: Addressed by Imagineer Jack Lindquist in his memoirs, in reference to the Tomorrowland band Halyx (who remained almost complete unknowns IOTL). |
| 203 | -->As a professional "hype man", to use the vernacular, people always ask me what it takes to become "famous". What is the "secret" to breaking out? And the only honest answer that I can give is dumb luck. Be seen by the right people with the right connections at the right time. [[HardWorkHardlyWorks The truth is that some of the most talented musicians in the world can languish in obscurity for decades while some hack with three chords to his repertoire becomes an international superstar.]] And it is entirely possible if not likely that Halyx might have played over the summer and sold some albums through Disney and largely went about their lives. But they got lucky: John Henson was a fan. |
| 204 | * HollywoodVoodoo: Referenced by Terrell Little when describing the making of ''Kindred Spirits'' (''WesternAnimation/CorpseBride'' relocated to Jazz Age New Orleans, and therefore given a chunk of ''WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'') and consciously averted: |
| 205 | -->Vodou would feature heavily, but be done right. No "voodoo doll" bullshit. Our hero would wear a Gris Gris along with his cross. Maman [=LeBeaux=] would be a forthright if eccentric helper. Even The Baron would be his usual boisterous self rather than a flat villain. |
| 206 | * HostilityOnTheSet: InUniverse, the troubled production of ''Creature from the Black Lagoon'' is made worse with Creator/AndyDick, who stars as comic-relief cameraman Reggie. Appearing late to the production so many times, he would often be drunk and high, bullying the native extras (and his co-stars), annoying director Roland Emmerich by interrupting his direction and stalling filming by ad-libbing bizarre lines whilst his co-stars were speaking. In the documentary chronicling the hellish production, ''Black Lagoon: The Doomed Journey'', Creator/DannyJohnJules recounts how Dick gave a Nazi salute and goose-steps away from Emmerich after being reprimanded for turning up late "for the umpteenth time". Worse of all, much of the cast and crew (including Creator/LenaHeadey) come forward years later of claims of sexual misconduct from Dick. When Dick has his very last scene in the film shot, Emmerich says simply; “Get that bastard off this set.” |
| 207 | * InSpiteOfANail: |
| 208 | ** Early into his tenure at Disney, Jim tries to improve ''WesternAnimation/TheFoxAndTheHound'' with two suggested changes: killing off Chief to give weight to Copper’s RevengeBeforeReason in the third act, and a RayOfHopeEnding with his and Tod’s children, suggesting they could avoid their fathers’ mistakes. His position in Disney being not that strong means he’s denied, but proven right when the film is released and critics take note of Chief's survival being a narrative weak point. |
| 209 | ** Impressively, ''Film/BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure'' manages to be ''the exact same film'' as OTL. |
| 210 | --->It was like fate; preordained. Or like if some sort of radical time traveler was, like, interfering to make it happen in just a certain way. |
| 211 | ** Due to an assumption that Creator/DonaldPBellisario had "his own personal set of objectives" and "a high degree of independence", ''Series/QuantumLeap'' was developed the exact same way as IOTL, right down to starring Creator/ScottBakula and Creator/DeanStockwell. |
| 212 | ** In spite of Creator/TimCurry being cast as the Joker in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Creator/MarkHamill still gets his chance to voice his iconic role when he replaces Tim Curry in 1992 after Tim prices himself out. |
| 213 | *** [[spoiler:And in spite of ''B:TAS'' being made in 1989, Harley Quinn still gets created (still voiced by Creator/ArleenSorkin), with her inspiration being a female follower of the Joker in the [[Film/Batman1989 1989 Batman movie]], and her real name being Harriett Lee instead of Harleen Quinzel]]. |
| 214 | ** [[spoiler:Creator/AlfredMolina still gets to play Doc Ock; first as an EarlyBirdCameo in 1991's ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'', [[Film/SpiderMan2 then in 1993's]] ''Film/SpiderMan2''.]] |
| 215 | ** An incident recounted in the OTL version of Creator/BruceCampbell's autobiography concerning [[MakingLoveInAllTheWrongPlaces two Deadite actors "boning" on set]] still occurs and is acknowledged in the TTL version, [[spoiler:even concidering ''Film/ArmyOfDarkness'' is made as a ''Series/TalesFromTheCrypt'' movie]]. |
| 216 | ** Michael Eisner still recruits Jeffrey Katzenberg, and then appoints someone else in a higher position over him leading to increasing tensions between the two. It just happens at ABC instead of Disney. |
| 217 | ** ''Film/MuppetTreasureIsland'' doesn't exist, but Creator/TimCurry still gets to ham it up as Long John Silver in ''WesternAnimation/TreasurePlanet''. |
| 218 | ** Creator/SusanEgan still stars as the female lead in a Ancient Greece-set Disney movie after starring in a Broadway musical of a Disney movie... only it's ''Medusa'' in 1996 rather then ''WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}}'' in 1997 for the former, and for the latter, ''Mort'' instead of ''Theatre/BeautyAndTheBeast''. |
| 219 | ** While Creator/CraigMcCracken manages to keep the original title of ''[[Franchise/ThePowerpuffGirls The Whoopass Girls]]'', the Creator/{{MTV}} cartoon still manages to utilise ''The Powerpuff Girls'' in one episode, when the Mayor of Townsville has a science firm create a "proper, family friendly" alternative team to the Whoopass Girls. |
| 220 | ** While Creator/EddieMurphy has the role of Winston Zeddmore in ''Film/Ghostbusters1984'', Creator/ErnieHudson does eventually appear in the franchise, as the father of Creator/WillSmith's character in ''Ghostbusters: West Coast Ghosts''. In addition, ''West Coast Ghosts'' is a 1996 action blockbuster starring Smith and Creator/JeffGoldblum, essentially taking the place of ''Film/IndependenceDay'' due to Creator/RolandEmmerich taking on ''Film/{{Arachnophobia}}'' instead of getting the idea to do ''Independence Day''. |
| 221 | ** ''Film/TheMuppetChristmasCarol'' is still the exact same movie, with the only differences being that the film is titled as ''A Muppet Christmas Carol'', [[spoiler:the song "When Love Is Gone" is retained in the theatrical cut]], and that [[spoiler:Jim Henson living past his OTL death means the film is merely dedicated to Richard Hunt]]. |
| 222 | ** In ''[[Film/ThePhantomMenace Star Wars Episode I - A Darkness Rising]]'', despite that Creator/BenicioDelToro portrays Mauk Shivtor (TTL's Darth Maul), Creator/RayPark still performs as his stunt double in the fight scenes. |
| 223 | ** Creator/TimAllen still is one of the lead voice actors in TTL's ''Franchise/ToyStory''. This time? [[spoiler:He's voicing the cowboy]]. |
| 224 | ** Creator/SamuelLJackson is still Mace Windu in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequel trilogy. |
| 225 | ** ''Captain America'' casts Creator/RachelWeisz as Peggy Carter, and while her doing an American accent is considered, they decide to use her natural English accent, so Peggy gets the same AdaptationalNationality as her [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] counterpart in OTL. |
| 226 | ** Creator/HugoWeaving is still Agent Smith in ''Film/TheMatrix''. |
| 227 | ** Even though the Ruby Ridge siege has been butterflied (according to the author) and the Waco siege ended differently from OTL, a federal building is still the target of domestic terrorism in 1995. This time, it is [[spoiler:the J. Edgar Hoover Building]]. |
| 228 | ** A US ship is the victim of a bombing in 2000. Instead of the USS ''Cole'' off the coast of Yemen sustaining damage, [[spoiler:the USCGC ''Chincoteague'' (WPB-1320) is sunk in the Gulf of Mexico by the explosion of a cigar boat containing a dirty bomb]]. |
| 229 | ** Creator/DavidTennant has a major role on ''Series/DoctorWho'' during the Tenth Doctor's run, despite not portraying said character. [[spoiler:He's cast as the Master, meaning he still gets to play a Time Lord]]. |
| 230 | ** Creator/TaraStrong (known as Tara Freeman ITTL) voices a ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' character, but it's for a cameo in this world's version of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory1'' instead of [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the lead role of a TV show]]. She also still voices a unicorn, albeit in TTL's Shrek as part of an in-universe cartoon Shrek watches. |
| 231 | ** Creator/AdamBaldwin still portrays Jayne, in TTL's version of ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' (which is known as ''Tranquility''), but instead of being part of the main cast, he's the brother to Creator/NathanFillion's Jubal E. Kaine. |
| 232 | ** Creator/JackieEarleHaley, who originally auditioned to play Freddy Krueger in ''Film/{{A Nightmare on Elm Street|1984}}'', still gets a chance to play him. Instead of [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet2010 playing him in the remake]], Jackie plays a corpse who is transformed into Freddy Krueger in ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet5TheDreamChild A Nightmare on Elm Street Part V: Freddy Reborn]]''. |
| 233 | ** UsefulNotes/{{Sydney}} and UsefulNotes/{{Athens}} still host the Summer UsefulNotes/OlympicGames, but their years are switched around, with Athens hosting the 2000 Summer Olympics and Sydney hosting the 2004 Summer Olympics. |
| 234 | ** Creator/BillieLourd and Creator/LupitaNyongo are still cast in the ''Star Wars'' sequel trilogy, this time as Jaina Solo and [[spoiler:Sith Lady/Empress Bogana Mal’qi]]. |
| 235 | ** Creator/LarsMikkelsen still gets cast as Grand Admiral Thrawn [[Series/{{Ahsoka}} in live action]], only this time, during the ''Star Wars'' sequel trilogy. |
| 236 | * Creator/ChristianBale still portrays Batman, albeit as a Robin who temporarily takes on the role. |
| 237 | * InsultBackfire: A political cartoon portrays the Reform Party as a skunk, trailing a "stink" of populist policies. Just as the Republicans and Democrats did with the elephant and donkey, the party adopts it, describing the skunk as "resourceful, self-sufficient, and solitary. It's neither aggressive nor fearful, and despite its small size, no other beast, however strong and fierce, ever messes with it ''twice''." |
| 238 | * IAmBecomingSong: In ''Anansi Boys'', the three villains, the local drug gang head Bigg Puma, the local District Councilman Barry Bengal Jones, and the Assistant DA Vance “The Tiger” D’Angelo (who are all voiced by Eddie Murphy) all sing “A Shake of the Hand”. |
| 239 | * IWantSong: |
| 240 | ** The protagonist Maria of ''A Small World'', gets one called “A World of My Own”. |
| 241 | ** Mentioned by name in the discussion of ''Hiawatha'', regarding the title character's "A Warrior Born". It also gets a DarkReprise when he sets out for vengeance. |
| 242 | ** Both Meng and Longzhu get one in the opening scenes of ''The Poet and the Dragon'': Meng breaking out of a song about bureaucracy to sing about wanting a connection to the celestial sphere, and Longzhu similarly disrupting the CelestialBureaucracy to sing about wanting a connection to the Earth. |
| 243 | ** Don Bluth's ''Beauty and the Beast'' has one with Belle's "Reflections in Me" (said to be akin to "Reflection" in OTL's ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}''). |
| 244 | ** ''[[WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove City of the Sun]]''[='=]s "One Look/Una Mirada" is said to be akin to a three-way "I want", with Tizic falling for Nicté, while Nicté in turn is falling for Tizic's brother Kinich. |
| 245 | * ItWillNeverCatchOn: |
| 246 | ** [[spoiler:In his autobiography ''All You Need is a Chin: Confessions of a B-Movie Actor'', Creator/BruceCampbell mentions that he tried talking Sam Raimi out of doing ''[[Film/FridayThe13thPartVANewBeginning Friday the 13th 5]]'' because of how unimpressive the script sounded. But Raimi insisted, and even went as far as rewriting the script, and sure enough:]] |
| 247 | --->He was right. [[spoiler:He redefined a freaking genre.]] My bad. |
| 248 | ** Creator/SeanConnery turns down the role of Timothy Harmon (TTL's John Hammond) in ''Film/JurassicPark'' (which eventually goes to Christopher Lee) because he's convinced that the project will be a failure. Needless to say, he's proven very wrong. |
| 249 | ** When Jim Henson joins Disney, a quote attributed to a businessman, Richard [=DeVos=], sums up that Henson's tenure at Disney is doomed to fail: |
| 250 | --->It will never work. They’re bringing a peace-and-love flower child into a board full of Reagan Republicans. They’ll tear him apart. |
| 251 | * JerkassHasAPoint: This winds up being the key reason why [[spoiler:Jim Henson lives past 1990. After injuring his leg and putting off seeing a doctor for several days, he met up with Dick Nunis to go surfing... who then ''promptly'' dragged Jim to a hospital the moment he saw his untreated wound, all the while shooting down Jim's repeated desire to not be a bother. His wound was promptly treated and cleared, and after being told by a doctor ''in detail'' about how he was at risk of going into septic shock, Jim (properly scared straight[[note]]thanks in part to having seen Howard Ashman suffer from it weeks prior[[/note]]) decides to start taking better care of himself and take advantage of being given more time to live]]. |
| 252 | -->[[{{Pun}} [2] It’s necessary to be a Dick some days.]] |
| 253 | ** Jim has a similar realisation after shareholder dissatisfaction with his underperforming passion projects, putting artistic merit above financial profit and putting money into environmental initiatives and [=PSAs=] almost leads to [[spoiler:Sid Bass selling a major share of Disney to Michael Eisner]]; while not sacrificing the artistic angle, he endeavours to start recognising the needs of the shareholders and green-lighting more projects with "popular appeal" into production, recalling also that [[HypocrisyNod he’d done this]] to get ''Film/TheDarkCrystal'' made, [[OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt with two additional seasons of]] ''Series/TheMuppetShow'' [[OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt that he’d otherwise not wanted to make]]. |
| 254 | * KilledByRequest: InUniverse: Well, Stayed Dead By Request, but Malcolm Morrison is not brought back for TTL's ''The Lost World'' because Johnny Depp (his actor) expressed disinterest in reprising the role: |
| 255 | -->"Well, shortly after that news dropped, Johnny gives me a call and says, “Look, Tim, I’ve made a decision – I’m not going to do what Bob Downey and Gary Oldman and Nic Cage are doing. I don’t care about the spray-painted action figures – I don’t buy into all that shit. I’m sorry, but I’m not going to be in on this – I’ve got a Lovecraft movie with Richard Stanley in the pipeline." |
| 256 | * LandmarkingTheHiddenBase: The ''Ghostbusters: West Coast Ghosts'' equivalent of the Shandor Building is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coit_Tower Coit Tower]]. |
| 257 | * LaserGuidedKarma: [[invoked]] In essence: After Wrestling/{{WCW}} and [[Wrestling/AmericanWrestlingAssociation AWA]] merged, [[spoiler:shortly before the Anita Hill case kicked off an earlier [=#MeToo=] movement, UsefulNotes/TedTurner and Columbia found themselves needing to crack down hard on the wrestling corporation, resulting in a mass purge of wrestlers (including the Four Horsemen). Vince [=McMahon=] is reported to have celebrated the debacle... which only served to blow up in his face when [[Wrestling/{{WWE}} his own corporation]] soon came under fire as the company’s own skeletons began coming to light[[note]]such as the rape and pedophilia accusations surrounding Pat Patterson, Jerry Lawler and Jeff Jarrett, Jimmy Snuka's murder of his girlfriend, [[WebVideo/OSWReview "human trafficker]] [[Wrestling/TheFabulousMoolah Fabulous Moolah"]], Grizzly Smith[[/note]], alongside the ''massive'' amount of legal trouble soon flung his way[[note]]the Steroid Trial, illegal union busting, forcing contractors to share revenue, the World Wildlife Federation renewing their lawsuit over the use of the WWF acronym[[/note]]. The end result: Vince is sentenced to up to 15 years in jail, all of his wealth and assets are seized, [[CreatorKiller and WWE comes to an end]]]]. |
| 258 | -->Turner will remark years after the fact that [[spoiler:WWE collapsing due to something that started with WCW]] feels karmic. |
| 259 | * LiteralMetaphor: In TTL's version of ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'', Coral is still alive, because Jim wants the film to be as scientifically accurate as possible, and the marine biologists explained what would happen if she wasn't. When Finn (Marlin) is reluctant to leave the anenome to find Nemo, Coral snarks that, "I’ll find Nemo myself and you can stay here and be the Mommy!" to which Finn replies "But I'm not ready to be the Mommy!" It looks like a joke about the division of parental responsibility, unless you know that it's literally true that if Coral disappeared, Finn would "become the Mommy". |
| 260 | * LogoJoke: |
| 261 | ** As with OTL ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' movies, ''Mask of the Monkey King: An Indiana Jones Adventure'' opens with the Paramount logo {{Match Cut}}ting into a scene; in this case a mountain in China. |
| 262 | ** ''Film/JurassicPark'' is an MGM production, and replaces Leo with a T-rex. |
| 263 | ** In a trailer for the-upcoming ''The Road to Ruin'', Leo doesn't roar, but instead whimpers dejectedly and covers his eyes with his paws. |
| 264 | * ManicPixieDreamGirl: Is called "Magic Dragon Girlfriend" ITTL, even though Longzhu in ''The Dragon and the Poet'' isn't really an example. |
| 265 | * MerchandiseDriven: |
| 266 | ** Averted in the case of Disney, as Jim Henson's opposition to making merchandise-driven shows leads him to put his feet down on Disney falling in that same trap as many other animation studios in the '80s. But it does lead to an amusing idea on parodying the concept, with a November 1985 episode of ''Disney's World of Magic'' featuring a fake, satirical advertisement for "The Merchenaries". |
| 267 | ** Bruce Campbell notes that Warner Bros. was pretty much this during ''Batman [[Film/BatmanForever 3]]: ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''. |
| 268 | ---> And if The Penguin feels a little extraneous and tacked-on to this story, then, well, he is. The studio, in particular every nerd’s best friend Tom Rothman, made us do it. More villains = more toys, after all. Tom’s also the reason for the many new vehicles like Nightwing’s and Bat Girl’s motorcycles and the Bat Jet and the Clown Cars and the rest of “toyetic” crap we had to shoehorn in there (each sold separately! Collect them all, you nerds! From Galoob!). If Mira Velimirovic, our former Exec and at the time head on the animation side, hadn’t pushed back, we’d have been completely turned into a damned toy commercial. |
| 269 | * MetaOrigin: The Marvel Movie Universe ''almost'' had one -- it's stated that the Asgardians' Odinforce is the same thing as Professor Erskine's "Vita-Rays", and all-but-confirmed that the Odinforce explosion in ''Captain America'' was responsible for the increase in mutant births post 1940s, but the idea that this force was ''also'' the FF's "cosmic rays", the Hulk's "gamma energy", the power behind Tony Stark's arc reactor, and even responsible for the creation of vibranium and adamantium, is raised briefly in ''Fantastic Four: Rise and Fall'', and then largely dropped as "too much". |
| 270 | * MisBlamed: InUniverse: Certain factions of ''Star Wars'' fandom blame Lisa Henson for the Roona (TTL's Gungan) in ''A Darkness Rising'', when they were definitely a George Lucas idea (as in OTL, inspired by his son). Conversely, Lucas is praised for including the Mandalorians in the third act, which was ''Lisa'''s idea. |
| 271 | * MissXPun: The equivalent of the smartphone is the "intelliphone", punningly abbreviated to "inpho". Consequently, the stereotype of the suburban woman sharing misinformation on social media is "Miss Inpho". |
| 272 | * TheMockbuster: In universe, Roger Corman's ''Lion-Man'' to ''[[Film/BlackPanther2018 Black Panther]]''. |
| 273 | [[/folder]] |
| 274 | [[folder:Tropes N-Z]] |
| 275 | * NaziNobleman: Col. Claus von Stauffenberg, the Cyclops of ''Ulysses: An Indiana Jones Odyssey'' is "an old-school Junker aristocrat who tolerates Hitler because he’s making Germany great once again". |
| 276 | * NoJustNoReaction: Just like IOTL, Disney wasn't interested in [[spoiler:picking up ''Film/BackToTheFuture1'']] because of [[spoiler:the "incest subplot" concerning Marty's mom falling in love with him]]. ''Unlike'' IOTL, however, Jim and Bernie vouching for it winds up leading to it getting greenlit for the Fantasia Films label[[note]]which he and Jim founded along with Ron Miller, "specifically as a place to distribute and showcase outside talent like [[spoiler:''Film/TimeBandits'']]"[[/note]]. |
| 277 | * NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: After the remake of ''Film/SongOfTheSouth'' manages to become a success despite the controversy surrounding it. Frank Wells wonders if the film did well ''because'' of the controversy. |
| 278 | * TheOtherMarty: [[invoked]] Because of ''Film/TheMoneyPit'' undergoing a ''[[TroubledProduction disastrous]]'' production, Creator/ShelleyLong (who played Anne) eventually decides to leave the film (due to being pregnant), causing the filmmakers to bring in Creator/DianeKeaton to replace her. [[TropeNamer This incident is what causes the trope ITTL to be known as "The Other Anne".]] |
| 279 | * OurPresidentsAreDifferent: |
| 280 | ** Al Gore (D-TN, 1993-2001) is President Personable for his environmental stances, and President Iron for sending troops to the Congo during the Congolese Civil War. |
| 281 | ** [[spoiler:Dick Gephardt (D-MO, 2001-2005) can also be described as President Iron pledging for more military aid to the Northern Alliance.]] |
| 282 | ** [[spoiler:John Heinz (R-PA, 2005-2013) is also President Personable for co-signing a peace treaty to end the Congolese War.]] |
| 283 | ** [[spoiler:Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS, 2013-2021) is President Minority for becoming the first female President.]] |
| 284 | ** [[spoiler:UsefulNotes/BarackObama (D-IL, 2021-) is also President Minority as the first African-American president, like IOTL.]] |
| 285 | * PlayingAgainstType: |
| 286 | ** Invoked with Jim's desire to stretch beyond the Muppets. He complains to Bernie Brillstein that when other studios look at him "all they see is Kermit". |
| 287 | ** In ''Film/Batman1989'', Creator/WillemDafoe is cast in the lead role rather than a crazed creep and more notably, the Joker is played by Creator/RobinWilliams - giving him a villainous role over a decade sooner than in our world. |
| 288 | ** Creator/ChrisBarrie plays the evil Poseidon in Disney's ''Medusa'' rather than neurotic everymen. |
| 289 | ** In the cheap ''Film/HomeAlone'' knock-off ''Lady of the House'', Creator/MaraWilson plays a young girl who is ''horrible'' rather than the sweet ones she plays in both timelines. |
| 290 | ** Robin Williams also has another role which he plays against type, with the stern, unfunny, militaristic taskmaster Colonel Gooch in ''Forrest Gump''. |
| 291 | ** Creator/RobPaulsen voices twisted MadScientist Scorponok in ''[[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Transformers: Evolutions]]''. |
| 292 | ** Creator/AdrianEdmondson plays the human antagonist Joe in ''Film/JurassicParkIII'', although Edmondson sees it as closer to PlayingWithCharacterType. |
| 293 | ** Dermot Morgan plays the fanatical leader of a Kaiju-worshipping ApocalypseCult in '''Godzilla 3''. |
| 294 | * PowerTrio: The trio of Ron Miller, Jim Henson, and Frank Wells, nicknamed "The Three Mouseketeers" by the press. |
| 295 | * PragmaticAdaptation: [[invoked]] Jeff Katzenberg and Michael Eisner's desire to create a ''Literature/{{Ringworld}}'' series[[note]]mainly because Eisner couldn't make a ''Star Wars'' series[[/note]] under their Hollywood Pictures Television (HPTV) brand ran into a ''major'' hurdle: the fact that Creator/LarryNiven had sold the rights to the Kzinti species to Creator/{{Paramount}} [[WesternAnimation/StarTrekTheAnimatedSeries back in the 1970s]], and Paramount wouldn't sell them ''back''. However, there was a solution: when acquiring the Literature/KnownSpace rights from Niven, Katzenberg had ''also'' acquired the rights to ''Literature/TheDracoTavern'' as well... meaning they could use the Chirpsithra species to replace the Kzinti. Or, in other words: |
| 296 | -->So, the series went forward as a sort of hybrid of ''Ringworld'', Gil "The Arm" Hamilton, and ''Draco's Tavern'' centered somewhat loosely around the events of the ''Ringworld'' novel series, with plot lines from the other stories lifted and repurposed into episodes. |
| 297 | * ProductionPosse: InUniverse, Tim Burton has a group of regular collaborators for his stop-motion pieces, including Rick Heinrichs, the Chiodo Brothers, and (later) Henry Selick. |
| 298 | * PromotedToLoveInterest: The title character in Disney's ''Medusa'' marries Perseus at the end. No, really, ItMakesSenseInContext[[labelnote:Context in question]]Both are after the same {{Macguffin}} and agree to work together, and bond.[[/labelnote]]. |
| 299 | * PunnyName: When the in-universe sources aren't autobiographies, they're generally written by fictional figures whose names are either plays on the OTL writers of equivalent books (e.g Jay O'Brian, who writes Henson's biography in place of Brian Jay Jones) or just puns (e.g. [[Music/DerekAndTheDominos Derek N. Dedominos]]). |
| 300 | * RaceLift: Creator/TinyLister plays Ben Grimm in the ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' movie. |
| 301 | -->'''Creator/StanLee''': If only I'd known Tiny back in '61, I would have totally made Ben look like him! Let the jerks complain about the race change all they want, Tiny nailed Ben. I’m sure [[Creator/JackKirby Jack]], God rest his soul, would have agreed. And on a side note, yes, geniuses, there are Black Jews in real life. Ever heard of Creator/SammyDavisJr? How about Ethiopia? |
| 302 | ** In the 90s ''Spider-Man'' trilogy, due to a casting director believing that Norman and Harry Osborn are black/biracial due to some of the comic images making them appear so due to their skin tone and hair, Creator/JoeMorton gets cast as Norman Osborn in a cameo in ''Spider-Man 2'', reprising the role in ''Spider-Man 3'', where Creator/HenrySimmons is cast as Harry Osborn. |
| 303 | ** In Ron Howard's ''Captain America'', Creator/JamieFoxx is cast as James Buchanan "Bucky" Barnes. |
| 304 | ** Universal Animation's ''[[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars John Carter and the Princess of Mars]]'' makes John Carter (played by Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson), not a former soldier for the Confederate Army, but a black slave who had fought for the Union Army in [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar the Civil War]]. |
| 305 | * RealLifeRelative: InUniverse. |
| 306 | ** The adaptation of "The Ash Tree" in Creator/MarkGatiss's animated AnthologyFilm of Creator/MRJames ghost stories stars Timothy West as 17th century landowner Sir Matthew Fell, his wife Creator/PrunellaScales as the woman he accuses of being a witch, and their son Creator/SamuelWest as Matthew's grandson Sir Richard. |
| 307 | ** ''Franchise/{{Terminator}} 3: No Fate'' features Creator/BryceDallasHoward as a teenage girl who will be one of John Connor's lieutenants in the future, and Creator/RonHoward cameoing as her father, a Cyberdyne scientist. |
| 308 | ** Hunter Johansson appears alongside his sister [[Creator/ScarlettJohansson Scarlett]] in ''[[Film/Annie1999 Annie]]'' (1995) and ''Film/TheHorseWhisperer'', although in neither do they play siblings. |
| 309 | ** Creator/CarrieFisher's daughter Creator/BillieLourd is cast as Leia's daughter, Dame Jaina Solo, in the ''Star Wars'' sequel trilogy. |
| 310 | ** Alongside Creator/RiverPhoenix (who plays teen Indiana Jones) in ''Series/TheYoungIndianaJonesChronicles'', his sister Summer Phoenix plays Marion Jones, the sister of "Henry the 4th", played by Creator/JoaquinPhoenix. |
| 311 | * RecastAsARegular: InUniverse: In DC's movie universe, Creator/MorganFreeman portrays Mayor Frank Berkowitz in 1992's ''Man of Steel'', before being cast as Nudis Vulko in 2000's ''Aquaman''. |
| 312 | * RelatedInTheAdaptation: |
| 313 | ** In Disney's ''Literature/TheSnowQueen'' adaptation ''Heart of Ice'', not only are Kai and Gerda brother and sister, as happens in many adaptations, but [[spoiler:[[LukeIAmYourFather the Snow Queen is revealed to be their mother]]]]. |
| 314 | ** In Ron Howard's ''Captain America'', Creator/DenzelWashington's James "Rhodey" Rhodes is the grandson of Creator/JamieFoxx's Bucky Barnes. |
| 315 | ** In the ''Aquaman'' movie, Leron, King of the Xebelites, is Mera's brother. |
| 316 | ** In TTL's ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the mystery of Anniken's father is revealed, with Palpatine initially claiming to be his father, only for it to be revealed to be [[spoiler:Baron Cetu Thorpe]]. |
| 317 | * RelatedDifferentlyInTheAdaptation: In the ''Aquaman'' movie, Thomas Curry is not Arthur's father (as pre-Crisis and post-Flashpoint) or adoptive father (as post-Crisis), but his maternal uncle, since he's the son of Atlan (as post-Crisis) and a surface woman named Theresa Curry (CanonForeigner). Atlanna is his stepmother rather than his mother, and Ocean Master is still his half-brother, but as the son of Atlan and Atlanna, while Orvax (Orm's father and the former King of Atlantis post-Flashpoint) is now their EvilUncle, brother to the late King of Atlantis. |
| 318 | * RequiredSpinOffCrossover: All the original Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}} make appearances in ''Ghostbusters: West Coast Ghosts''. Creator/DanAykroyd's Ray has the largest, as the San Francisco team's mentor. |
| 319 | * RemakeCameo: |
| 320 | ** Disney's ''ComicStrip/BuckRogers'' series starring Creator/BruceCampbell features guest appearances by [[Series/BuckRogersInThe25thCentury Gil Gerard and Erin Grey]] as admirals and Creator/MelBlanc voicing a computer. |
| 321 | ** Sam Raimi's ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'' reboot script for 1992's ''Man of Steel'' cameos Creator/ChristopherReeve and Creator/MargotKidder as the Kents. |
| 322 | ** The 1992 ''Franchise/TheLoneRanger'' movie has Clayton Moore as the title character's father in flashbacks, confirming that the franchise is trying to make up for the unfortunate incident in both timelines when the then-rights owners tried to pull a trademark violation on him. |
| 323 | ** The 1994 ''Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk'' movie has Creator/LouFerrigno as a paramedic (along with Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan and Bill Barretta, who are doing body work and puppetry for the animatronic Hulk), as well as providing the Hulk's voice. [[spoiler: And Creator/BillBixby, in his final screen role, picking up a hitchhiking Banner at the end as a version of "The Lonely Man" plays.]] |
| 324 | ** The 1996 remake of the British {{Kaiju}} movie ''Film/{{Gorgo}}'' casts Vincent Winter, the original Sean, as a newsreader. |
| 325 | * ReversePsychology: [[spoiler:This winds up being ''the reason'' why ''The Road to Ruin'' (which, due to [[TroubledProduction reports of how disastrous the increasingly over-budget production was destined to become]], was being preemptively written off as a flop) wound up being a box office success: producer Mel Brooks, figuring they had nothing left to lose at this point, pitched to Bernie an idea to ''lean in'' on the negative press. The end result was a trailer that ''openly declared'' that the movie was going to suck, more or less ''daring people to go see it''.]] |
| 326 | -->It was brilliant and that target demographic of 16-40 was salivating for the chance to say they were there [[spoiler:when ''Ruin'' crashed and burned... [[FailedFutureForecast or didn't.]]]] |
| 327 | -->[[spoiler:[[SpringtimeForHitler We went from the laughing stock of Hollywood to the talk of the town.]]]] |
| 328 | * RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: |
| 329 | ** Jim Henson, after getting a seat on Disney's Board of Directors as a creative consultant, later becomes chief creative officer and then [[spoiler:chairman of the company]]. |
| 330 | ** Jane Nebel Henson, Jim's wife, becomes the President of [[Creator/SesameWorkshop Children's Television Workshop]], replacing Joan Ganz Gooney. |
| 331 | ** After an internship at Creator/{{Lucasfilm}}, Lisa Henson becomes a producer at [[Creator/AmblinEntertainment Amblin]], before becoming [[spoiler:the chairwoman and president of Fox Studios]] and later, [[spoiler:her father's successor as chairman of Disney]]. |
| 332 | ** After interning with Walt Disney Imagineering and studying at [=CalTech=], Brian Henson works in Disney's special effects division, rising to become Vice President of Special Effects and [[spoiler:Chairman and CEO of Imagineering]]. |
| 333 | ** After graduating from [=CalArts=], Heather Henson founds an multimedia collective and studio in Van Nuys, Whoopass Studios, with Leslie Iwerks (the granddaughter of Creator/UbIwerks) as well as Creator/CraigMcCracken, Creator/GenndyTartakovsky and Creator/RobRenzetti. |
| 334 | ** UsefulNotes/AlGore becomes President of the United States in 1992. His successor is [[spoiler:Richard "Dick" Gephardt, his Vice President during Gore's second term in office (succeeding Senator Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts)]]. |
| 335 | ** Due to the earlier [=#MeToo=] movement causing trouble for [[UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush his father]] in the 1992 Presidential election, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush, minority owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, is discouraged from entering politics and becomes Commissioner of Baseball, succeeding Fay Vincent. [[spoiler:He later becomes a member of the Disney Board of Directors in 2001]]. |
| 336 | ** Since Creator/WesAnderson's ''Film/BottleRocket'' underperformed at the box office, Creator/OwenWilson joins the US Marines and serves for four years as a CH-53 mechanic, before returning to Hollywood, with his brother Creator/LukeWilson becoming a bigger star as a result. |
| 337 | ** Creator/DwayneJohnson doesn’t suffer a knee injury during his time at the University of Miami and with [[spoiler:the collapse of the WWF]], he gets drafted by the NFL’s Los Angeles Rams in 1995 as their star defensive tackle. |
| 338 | ** Creator/WayneBrady becomes a Muppet performer on ''Too Late With Miss Piggy''. |
| 339 | ** Due to UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher lasting a year longer in office as Prime Minister, Labour leader Neil Kinnock becomes the new prime minister, leading a Labour-Liberal Democrat coalition in 1991. Due to the Beatrice AD disaster, Neil Kinnock resigns in March 1998 and is replaced by UsefulNotes/GordonBrown. After initially losing the 1999 UK General Election to the Conservative MP for Enfield Southgate and leader of the Conservative Party, Michael Portillo, [[spoiler:Gordon Brown returns as PM in 2004]]. |
| 340 | ** After the departure of Creator/EricSaward, Joan Ganz Cooney becomes the new ''Series/DoctorWho'' showrunner, before eventually rising to become head of US Production for BBC Overseas Production, and President of BBC America. |
| 341 | ** With George W. Bush not entering politics, Ann Richards is re-elected for another term as Governor of Texas, before [[spoiler:she becomes the first female Vice President in 2000]]. |
| 342 | ** During the 2004 US Presidential Election, [[spoiler:Republican Senator John Heinz of Pennsylvania (who does not die in a plane crash in 1991), is elected President of the United States]]. |
| 343 | ** In the 1994 Mid-term elections, John Ellis "Jeb" Bush wins in the Florida Senate against Buddy [=McKay=]. Then, after failing to acquire the Republican nomination for President during the 2000 Presidential Election, Jeb Bush [[spoiler:becomes the running mate of Senator John Heinz in 2004, and Vice President of the United States after Heinz wins the election]]. |
| 344 | ** [[spoiler:Kansas Governor and former Secretary of Education Kathleen Sebelius]] wins the 2012 Presidential Election. |
| 345 | ** After serving as Vice President to [[spoiler:Kathleen Sebelius]], UsefulNotes/BarackObama does become President of the United States, [[spoiler:in 2020, instead of 2008]]. |
| 346 | ** Paul Martin of the Liberal Party becomes Prime Minister of Canada in 1997, a few years before OTL. Then a no-confidence vote leads to Jack Layton of the New Democratic Party becoming Prime Minister in 2006. |
| 347 | ** With the foiling of the Gang of Eight's plan to launch a coup, UsefulNotes/MikhailGorbachev oversees the signing of the New Union Treaty, which reforms the USSR into the Union of Sovereign States, and becomes President of the USR until 1995, when UsefulNotes/BorisYeltsin is elected. [[spoiler:Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov of the Democratic Union Party becomes President in 2000]]. |
| 348 | ** UsefulNotes/DengXiaoping's successor as Paramount Leader of China is Qiao Shi rather than Jiang Zemin. [[spoiler:Qiao Shi serves up until 2004, when Hu Qili takes his place]]. |
| 349 | ** UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin does not go into politics, but becomes the Director of the FSB. [[spoiler:Until he is arrested in 2001 for allegedly plotting with opposition politicians to launch a coup in the USR]]. |
| 350 | ** Michael Eisner, after losing his position at Paramount, and this time, ''not'' being hired by Disney, instead takes the offer to head up ABC Motion Pictures as its President and Chairman[[note]]an option that Eisner was offered in OTL[[/note]], where he renames it as Creator/HollywoodPictures. Then, after becoming the President of ABC Entertainment, [[spoiler:after his attempt to get rid of Jeffrey Katzenberg and Bob Iger results in him being forced out]], Eisner takes up Ted Turner's offer to become Chairman and President of Columbia Pictures and Chief Creative Officer of Columbia Entertainment, before [[spoiler:becoming Turner's successor as Chairman and CEO of Columbia Entertainment in 2003]]. |
| 351 | ** Jeffrey Katzenberg moves from Paramount to become the studio head of ABC Motion Pictures/Hollywood Pictures, then leaves to head up Universal Studios after Universal and ABC merge. [[spoiler:After Comcast buys out Warner Bros. in 2003 following their merger with Leap, Katzenberg becomes the new Chairman and CEO]]. |
| 352 | ** Creator/JoeRanft, who is promoted to head Disney's Digital Division after Creator/JohnLasseter is placed on probation, [[spoiler:becomes Jim Henson's successor as Chief Creative Officer]]. |
| 353 | ** Due to Jim Henson and Frank Oz's commitments, Jerry Nelson and Jerry Juhl head the Muppets franchise. [[spoiler:By 2018, this role is filled by Kevin Clash.]] |
| 354 | * RippedFromTheHeadlines: InUniverse: |
| 355 | ** The Aum Shirinkyo attacks in 1995 leave a huge impact in pop culture afterwards, with ''[[Manga/CaseClosed Detective Conan]]'', ''Anime/PerfectBlue'' and ''Anime/CowboyBebop'' taking influence from the Shoko Ashara assassination, while the attacks and the assassination influence numerous American comics, TV shows and movies. |
| 356 | * RoleReprise: InUniverse: |
| 357 | ** Jim and Pratchett reprise their cameos as wizards in ''Mort'' for the live-action ''Equal Rites'', as does Creator/BrianBlessed in the more substantial role of Archchancellor Ridcully[[note]]replacing Archchancellor Cutangle from the book[[/note]]. |
| 358 | *** [[spoiler:Creator/ChristopherLee reprises his role as Death from ''Mort'' in 20th Century's live-action 1996 adaptation of ''Literature/GoodOmens'']]. |
| 359 | ** Creator/WhoopiGoldberg, who played Aunt Nancy (Anansi) in the 1986 recut of ''Film/SongOfTheSouth'', reprises the role for ''WesternAnimation/{{The Lion King|1994}}''. And again in ''Literature/AnansiBoys'' (although for the bulk of the film Anansi is played by Creator/EddieMurphy). |
| 360 | ** Creator/HelenaBonhamCarter becomes the first person to win an Oscar and an Emmy for playing the same character, getting the first for the role of Cleopatra in the 1995 movie ''The Assassination of Julius Caesar'', and the second for the title role in the 2002 PFN miniseries ''Memoirs of Cleopatra''. Several other actors, including Creator/PatrickStewart as Caesar, also reprise their roles in the series. |
| 361 | ** Creator/MichaelBiehn reprises his roles as Dwayne Hicks in ''Alien 3'' and ''Alien Homeworld'', and has a cameo as Kyle Reese in ''Terminator 3: No Fate''. |
| 362 | ** Creator/JeanReno, Creator/AnneParillaud, Creator/TchekyKaryo and Jean-Hugues Anglade reprised their roles as Victor, Nikita, Bob and Marco in ''[[Film/TheProfessional Victor: The Professional]]'', here a more overt sequel to 1990’s ''Film/{{Nikita}}''. |
| 363 | ** Creator/UdoKier reprises his role as Red Skull from the ''Avengers'' cartoon in ''Captain America''. |
| 364 | ** Judith Barsi reprises her role, this time in live-action, as Luke Skywalker's Twilek apprentice Halixiana from the ''Star Wars: Heir to the Empire'' animated series, in the Paramount-Fox Network TV Special ''Star Wars Stories: Luke of Tatooine'', then the ''Star Wars'' sequel trilogy. |
| 365 | ** Creator/AdamWylie reprises his role as Stanley O'Brian, the third Spider-Man, from the second ''Spider-Man'' trilogy, in 2009's ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' cartoon as well as the 2016 ''Spider-Man'' video game. |
| 366 | * ScienceMarchesOn: InUniverse. The swimming theropod in the third episode of ''[[Series/WalkingwithDinosaurs Where Dinosaurs Roam]]'' (set in the Kimmeridge Clay ITTL), based on a skeleton found in the Kimmeridge in 1984, is simply called a "stokesosaur" - it is now known as ''Juratyrant'' (as OTL). |
| 367 | * ScrapbookStory: The chosen format for the thread. Book and magazine excerpts, video transcripts, and forum posts are all used to assemble the plot. |
| 368 | * SeasonalRot: In-universe, ''The Muppet Show'' gets two more seasons as part of Disney's agreement to distribute ''The Dark Crystal'', which aren't seen as good as the first five. |
| 369 | * SettingUpdate: |
| 370 | ** ''Ulysses: An Franchise/IndianaJones Odyssey'' is ''Literature/TheOdyssey'' relocated to World War II and starring Indy as Odysseus/Ulysses. |
| 371 | ** Creator/SidneyPoitier directs a movie of ''Theatre/{{Othello}}'' set in 19th century Jamaica rather then Venice. |
| 372 | * ShownTheirWork: InUniverse: |
| 373 | ** After Disney animator Terrell Little heads to Japan on an exchange program to work with Creator/StudioGhibli on Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's ''Anime/PorcoRosso'', the experience of working on the movie and drawing [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_S.55 Savoia-Marchetti S.55]] flying boats inspires him to remember that when drawing machinery, it "has to work" and that "the little detail counts", so he works on ensuring that the waves formed by a take-off and landing of a flying boat "looks" correct as well as reading books on internal combustion and aerodynamics. |
| 374 | ** Next, while working as lead artist on ''WesternAnimation/TaleSpin'', Little studies old Pratt & Whitney Wasp radial piston engines and how the pistons move, and even goes so far as to study an engine repair of an AT-6 Texan, all to ensure that the engines of the Sea Duck "works right", an effort that earns praise for ''[=TaleSpin=]'' by aviation enthusiasts. |
| 375 | * SparedByTheAdaptation: |
| 376 | ** [[Creator/DisneysNineOldMen Woolie Reitherman]] does not die in his OTL car accident in 1985 due to that Disney provides him with a driver. |
| 377 | ** Creator/JudithBarsi lives as does her mother Maria due to her father József being arrested and sent to prison. |
| 378 | ** Instead of being cast in ''Series/LimeStreet'' (which led to her death via a plane crash), Samantha Smith becomes the lead star of CBS' ''The Littlest Diplomat'', which runs from 1984 to 1986 and starts off Smith's career as an actress. |
| 379 | *** Samantha's survival also ensures that Creator/RebeccaSchaeffer lives TTL, due to Robert John Bardo retaining his stalking obsession with Smith, rather than shifting his attentions to Schaeffer after Smith's death in 1985 and murdering Schaeffer. |
| 380 | ** After getting a random false positive HIV test in 1982, Music/FreddieMercury starts becoming more cautious and lives past his OTL death. |
| 381 | ** Creator/RiverPhoenix manages to survive a drug overdose in 1992 with the help of Bob Forrest, John Frusciante, and Johnny Depp as well as a registered nurse, who give Phoenix medical attention until the ambulance arrives, and enters rehab, which prompts him to stay clean. |
| 382 | ** After suffering a heart attack on the set of ''Deadheads'' in 1993, Creator/JohnCandy is prompted to change his lifestyle with River Phoenix's help, which results in him losing weight and living past his OTL death of 1994. |
| 383 | ** Due to butterflies, Diane Thomas (screenwriter of ''Film/RomancingTheStone'') does not get killed in a car accident on October 21, 1985. |
| 384 | ** Jim Henson [[spoiler:manages to survive past 1990, thanks to Dick Nunis' insistence on Henson going straight to a hospital after discovering an untreated cut on Jim's leg]]. |
| 385 | ** Creator/ChrisFarley lives past 1997, after surviving an overdose. |
| 386 | ** [[Music/TheCarpenters Karen Carpenter]] does not die of anorexia complications in 1983. |
| 387 | ** Frank Wells does not die in a helicopter crash in April 1994. |
| 388 | ** Lillian Disney, while suffering a minor stroke on December 15, 1997, survives due to her grandson Walt Disney Miller visiting her at the time and getting her medical attention. |
| 389 | ** Music/TupacShakur is not killed in a drive-by-shooting in 1996. |
| 390 | ** Creator/BrandonLee is not killed on the set of ''Film/TheCrow1994''. |
| 391 | ** Music/KurtCobain does not die of a drug overdose. |
| 392 | ** Creator/HeatherORourke, due to not being misdiagnosed with Crohn's disease, survives her OTL death and grows up to become a director after a career hiatus. |
| 393 | ** Senator [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Heinz John Heinz]] of Pennsylvania is not killed in an air crash in 1991. |
| 394 | ** Creator/ThuyTrang is not killed in a car crash in 2001. |
| 395 | ** Creator/JoeRanft is not killed in a car crash in 2005. |
| 396 | ** Creator/PhilHartman is not shot dead by his wife Brynn Omdahl in 1998. |
| 397 | ** Music/{{Aaliyah}} is not killed in an air crash in 2001. |
| 398 | ** John Henson does not die in 2014. |
| 399 | ** Kristen Pfaff does not die of a heroin overdose in 1994. |
| 400 | ** Layne Staley does not die of an overdose in 2002. |
| 401 | ** Thanks to meeting Kurt Cobain, who ensures his drug and alcohol habits are dropped, Music/ElliottSmith does not die in 2003. |
| 402 | ** Thanks to John Candy's influence ensuring his continued participation in a weight-loss program, Music/BigPun does not die in 2000. |
| 403 | * SpringtimeForHitler: Tom Rothman's plan to sabotage ''Postcards from the Edge'' by hiring an inexperienced director and a volatile cast, slashing budgets, heavily interfering, and encouraging the cast to ad-lib completely blows up in his face once it receives acclaim among critics and audiences, becomes a box-office smash hit, and wins several awards. The associated article compares it to the TropeNamer from ''Film/TheProducers''. |
| 404 | * StepfordSuburbia: Where Roger and Jessica Rabbit are living in ''Bunny in the 'Burbs'', to the point that their most prejudiced neighbours are literally named the Stepfords. |
| 405 | * SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: The entire Californian Ghostbusters team in ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}: West Coast Ghosts'' are intentionally designed as derivatives of the original team: Creator/WillSmith's Will Holmes is the fast-talking Venkman type, Creator/JeffGoldblum's Daniel Roseman is the Ray Stanz true believer, Creator/BenicioDelToro's Lou Delgado is the Egon-like nerd, and Creator/ChrisFarley's Jimmy Moran takes Winston's role as the everyman who gets roped into all this, and Creator/RosarioDawson’s Rosalita Los Santos, as Will's love interest who is also tied to the main threat somehow, is basically in the role of Dana. |
| 406 | * TakeThat: InUniverse: |
| 407 | ** Creator/TreyParkerAndMattStone's student film ''The Enlightener'' jabs at the anti-development {{green aesop}}s in the then-latest ''Friday the 13th'' films. |
| 408 | ** The 1996 ''Film/{{Gorgo}}'' remake has the mother-monster's rampage across London specifically take down the [=NatWest=] Tower, one of the most disliked additions to the London skyline at the time. |
| 409 | ** ''The Whoopass Girls'' has an episode titled "The Powerpuff Girls" that was made as a response to complaints made against the show by parental groups, in which the Mayor of Townsville orders an outside science firm to create the title characters as a "wholesome", hyper-saccharine alternative to the Whoopass Girls. Their [[EpicFail ineffective attempts]] to foil the villains (by trying to give them "a good talking to") results in Townsville being taken over by the villains, forcing the Mayor to rehire the Whoopass Girls to save the day. |
| 410 | * TownGirls: Cheryl Henson notes this dynamic between herself and her sisters, Lisa and Heather; Cheryl herself is Femme, having loved playing with dolls and playing dress-up as a child and later becoming a costume designer, Lisa is Butch, being more outgoing, and Heather is Neither, as she's "always finding her own way like some modern-day hippie". |
| 411 | * TransatlanticEquivalent: |
| 412 | ** Thanks to the partnership between Robert Holmes à Court and UsefulNotes/TedTurner, the classic case of British TV shows getting adapted for American audiences gets reversed with the airing of British equivalents of ''Series/{{Taxi}}'', ''Series/LittleHouseOnThePrairie'', ''Series/HappyDays'', ''Series/TheAndyGriffithShow'', ''Series/{{Rawhide}}'', ''Series/{{Dallas}}'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|1978}}''. |
| 413 | ** ''[[Series/That70sShow The Kids Are Alright]]'', like its OTL counterpart, gets a British remake called ''Days Like These'', which is more successful than its OTL counterpart. |
| 414 | * TeenageMutantSamuraiWombats: Used ''within'' the ''Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' franchise, with the third movie, 1996's ''TMNT 3: Turtle Power!'' (written and directed by Creator/TerryJones), giving them {{Evil Counterpart}}s in the form of the Transgenic Teenage Kung-Fu Iguanas, all named after modern artists, Salvador, Vincent, Pablo, and Warhol. |
| 415 | ** [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/when-you-wish-upon-a-frog-book-ii-of-the-jim-henson-at-disney-saga.522021/page-201#post-23347040 There is also a mention of]] ''Star Snakes'', a cartoon about heroic astronaut snakes, widely considered In-Universe as the LastOfHisKind. |
| 416 | * TroubledProduction: InUniverse: |
| 417 | ** ''Film/TheMoneyPit'' becomes proverbial for this, not least because the inflating costs due to unexpected disasters mirrors the plot of the movie itself. The leads (Kelsey Grammer and Shelley Long) [[HostilityOnTheSet hate each other]], with the crew taking sides, until they have to film their scenes separately, and then Long walks out. The set costs a fortune (they couldn't find a real house that works), plus another fortune to add all the "this house is collapsing" effects, which bring it very close to being an ''actual'' deathtrap. ExecutiveMeddling then leads to the ''director'' walking out, and the writer having to fill in. The executives continue to meddle after it's in the can, getting into a three-way editing war with the writer-director and the actual editor. And then, for unrelated reasons, the ''executives'' walk out, and the new suits disown the picture entirely. |
| 418 | ** Disney’s adaptation of ''Literature/{{Mort}}'' is gruelling on much of the crew, especially due to most being LockedOutOfTheLoop regarding Howard Ashman’s illness. The animators are already disgruntled at having to leave their homes, with Howard’s mood flipping from sweet to aggravated on the regular, and even Creator/TerryPratchett almost walking out on the project before he’s privately let in on the secret. It’s only when they see his secret cameo in ''The Song of Susan'' that they understand why Ashman was so difficult to work with; fortunately, the film proves highly successful on release in spite of it all. |
| 419 | ** The 1998 remake of ''Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon'' is an absolute nightmare due to Katzenberg's ExecutiveMeddling, from the moment that the cast learn Creator/PeterJackson is no longer involved, despite him being the one who got most of them interested, and the script they were so impressed by has been binned by Katzenberg, to the moment when Creator/AndyDick, playing a comedy relief documentary cameraman, is finally eaten by the Gill-Man and can be removed from the set (having been a troublesome actor who did not get on well with the cast and crew, and was unable to be fired due to studio interference). The film is a disaster, which Creator/CharlesDance describes as "nowhere near worth what we had to endure". |
| 420 | ** The 1996 MGM musical, ''The Road to Ruin'' became this from its first inception. Jim Henson, who pushed for the film, insists on getting the film greenlit in spite of Bernie Brillstein's prediction that a throwback film to the Hollywood musical era of cinema would never work. Plus, the film's costs spiral so much out of control to around $82 million and the film runs behind schedule (thanks to director Francis Ford Coppola's perfectionist tendencies) and Disney stocks go so far as to trade lower in anticipation for the film being a box office bomb. Not helping is that the film ''Annie'', a test to see if such a film like ''Road to Ruin'' could work, underperforms, resulting in the Disney board becoming critical of Jim, now the Disney chairman, for pursuing it and the film becomes a joke amongst Hollywood as they declare it to be another "Henson's Folly" and a flop on a level as ''Film/HeavensGate''. Rival Hollywood studios even get to the point of releasing other films not expected to to be commercial hits to go up against ''Road to Ruin'', expecting an "easy win", whilst Disney and MGM put pressure on the productions of ''Spider-Man 3'', ''X-Men'', ''The Lost World'' and the Disney animated features to “make up for the loss”. [[spoiler:In the end, due to a marketing campaign coined up by producer Mel Brooks and Bernie Brillstein leaning in on the negative press, with even the main stars Robin Williams and Wayne Brady joining in, the film becomes a box-office success due to word of mouth causing many people to go see the film]]. |
| 421 | ** In 1985, Don Bluth (who is looking into new projects to work on for his Bluth Group), is contacted by Steven Spielberg, who has formed a partnership with Gary Kurtz and Creator/RichardWilliams to put the latter's ''WesternAnimation/TheThiefAndTheCobbler'', into full production. With Disney's animators overworked with multiple projects, Bluth and his company are contacted to provide animators. But the film's development becomes troublesome, not helped by the film ('''two decades''' in the making at that point) having no central plot, with a mix of characters and plotlines that were unrelated to the central narrative. Bluth immediately clashes with Williams due to Bluth's desire for a stronger story clashing with Williams' attention focusing solely on the set pieces, as well as arch-perfectionist Williams attempting to throw out entire completed scenes because of small quality concerns. Thus, the two of them are described by animator Gary Goldman as "two deservedly big egos in one very small room" and by Gary Kurtz as being like "working with two [[Creator/GeorgeLucas Georges]]". In mid-1986, the budget of $24 million ($12 million from Amblin and Disney each) is nearly exhausted, in spite of Bluth's attempts at saving costs, and Frank Wells begrudgingly parts with another $7 million, with a stern warning that there wouldn't be any more. After the ultimatum is issued by Kurtz, the two of them make a pact to finish the project together on time and within budget. |
| 422 | ** Bruce Campbell recounts on how the "gossip mags" were not only right about how much of a nightmare production ''Film/TheCrow1994'' was, they had actually ''failed'' to capture the extent of it. |
| 423 | * TricksterMentor: Mentioned by name in the discussion of ''Hiawatha'', which notes that that film's Crow, ''Lion King''[='=]s Anansi, ''Shrek''[='=]s Donkey, and ''Aladdin''[='=]s Genie are all based on the same archetype. |
| 424 | * UnreliableNarrator: WordOfGod warns us that some of the people telling this story are inevitably going to fall to the temptation to lie or prevaricate to make themselves look better or others look worse. The obvious example is Bernie Brillstein, whose sheer gusto sweeps aside the question of whether his foresight was really as good as he makes it seem in retrospect. |
| 425 | * AVerySpecialEpisode: ''The Song of Susan'' is an invoked example where, in light of learning that Richard Hunt and Howard Ashman are dying, Jim endeavours to break the stigma of HIV/AIDS by raising public awareness. The film features a teenage girl who contracts the disease from a blood transfusion and is shunned publicly for it, leading to her friendship with an older man played by Hunt (metatextually playing himself); Ashman also cameos (a OneSceneWonder due to being in his hospital room). The film, a FairForItsDay success with several award wins, has all profits donated to HIV/AIDS charities. |
| 426 | * VideoGameMoviesSuck: Averted InUniverse, after the release of TTL's ''[[Film/SuperMarioBros1993 Super Mario Bros.]]'' which is directed by Joe Dante. The film's success prompts Warner Bros to immediately start work on [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Astro the Armadillo]], Columbia with [[VideoGame/CrystalCastles1983 Bentley Bear]], Creator/NewLineCinema on [[Film/MortalKombatTheMovie Mortal Kombat]] and Universal on [[Film/StreetFighter Street Fighter]]. |
| 427 | * VillainSong: |
| 428 | ** For ''Medusa'', the main villain Poseidon has one in the form of "Born To Win", at the request of Chris Barrie. |
| 429 | --->'''Chris Barrie''': If I'm playing a Disney villain, I've got to bloody sing! |
| 430 | ** A infamous non-Disney example is sung in ''[[Film/{{Waterworld}} Water World]]'', with Bruce Campbell's Deacon singing "Drown ‘Em". |
| 431 | ** ''[[Literature/{{Ramayana}} Invincible]]'' has Creator/GaryOldman's Ravana sing “Getting Ahead in the Game”. |
| 432 | ** In ''Kermit: Prince of Denmark'', Creator/JasonAlexander's Claudius sings "Claudius Rejoices (King For Awhile)". |
| 433 | ** Another non-Disney example is sung, with Queen Livia singing "Dark Roses" in Creator/DonBluth's ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast''. |
| 434 | * WhamLine: During a discussion of how Disney could [[spoiler: buy assets to dilute their stock and prevent a takeover.]] |
| 435 | -->'''Caroline Ahmanson''': [[spoiler: Gentlemen, isn't it obvious? There’s a company that's a perfect fit. They have existing IP that's a seamless match for Disney's brand. We've even been working with them for years now: Henson Associates.]] |
| 436 | * WriteWhoYouKnow: InUniverse, the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novels ''Spell Binding'' and ''Hyper Text'' follow on from the idea that Esk was somewhat based on Creator/RhiannaPratchett's childhood, by having her become involved with Invisible Writings and Hex as she pushes against the Unseen University's institutional sexism, mirroring Rhianna's experiences in the video game industry. |
| 437 | * XanatosGambit: Is known as Lex Plan, after the portrayal of Lex Luthor in TTL's version of ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries''. |
| 438 | * YouLookFamiliar: InUniverse: |
| 439 | ** Creator/JeroenKrabbe, who plays General Georgi Koskov in ''Film/TheLivingDaylights'', returns to play Auric Goldfinger in 2001's ''Literature/{{Goldfinger}}''. |
| 440 | ** Creator/JeffreyCombs plays both Zefram Cochrane (after having portrayed him in ''Star Trek: Envoy'') and Commander Shraa in ''Star Trek: Discovery''. |
| 441 | [[/folder]] |
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