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* InternetBackdraft:
** Fans were ''not'' pleased when D3 had openly stated they have no intention of bringing the Avatar Story quest and other DLC over to North America, to the point where massive amounts of petitions were sent out.
** The eternal debate between modders and "legit" players has caused quite an uproar on both the internet and in-game message boards.
** The announcement of an unexpected server closure caused many players who continue to support ''White Knight Chronicles'' to rage.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: The first time a character is shown transforming into a knight.
** Caesar after he defeats Belecitane
--> Belecitane: "But how...? My Gigas"
--> Caesar: "How? I just busted your ass, that's how! Any questions?"



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%%%* * SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: The first time a character is shown transforming into a knight.
** Caesar after he defeats Belecitane
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Adolmaea wasuilt up to be [[TheDreaded a great and powerful threat]] at the end of the first game, but turns out to be a pushover thanks to Cisna's sealing magic.
** Grazel as well, in the first game. He turned out to be NotSoHarmless in the second, though

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* AntiClimaxBoss: AntiClimaxBoss:
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Adolmaea wasuilt up to be [[TheDreaded a great and powerful threat]] at the end of the first game, but turns out to be a pushover thanks to Cisna's sealing magic.
** Grazel as well, is unexpectedly easy in the first game. He game but he turned out to be NotSoHarmless in the second, thoughsecond.



* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Leonard dancing with the princess on the water
** Hell, the fight with the Specter before Leonard takes control of Wizel could qualify.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Leonard dancing with the princess on the water
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water comes out of nowhere, is never mentioned again, and it is unclear if one or the fight with the Specter before Leonard takes control of Wizel could qualify.other is imagining it, given Cisna's costume change.



* ItsHardSoItSucks: If you expect the second game to be as easy as the first and it will rip out your spine and hand it to you. The second game is the counter punch to the arguments about the first game: Stronger enemies, weaker Knights, and a leveling curve roughly the shape of the Matterhorn. [[SarcasmMode Oh, but at least the sped up the turn gauge]].
* OneSceneWonder: Phibbianacci and his guards.

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* ItsHardSoItSucks: If you expect the second game to be as easy as the first and it will rip out your spine and hand it to you. The second game is the counter punch to the arguments about the first game: Stronger enemies, weaker Knights, and a leveling curve roughly the shape of the Matterhorn. [[SarcasmMode Oh, but at least the they sped up the turn gauge]].
* %%%* OneSceneWonder: Phibbianacci and his guards.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sarvain is set up to be ObviouslyEvil right from his introduction, yet when assumes control over Balandor following [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler King Valtos' death]] and starts issuing orders, he actually comes across as the smartest and most practical man in the room, especially compared to Cyrus, who's first reaction is to [[GeneralRipper lobby for an attack on Faria]] and then storm off in a huff when Sarvain shoots him down.
* ThatOneBoss: The two Wyverns you have to face in Van Haven Wastes without being able to rely on the Knights.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sarvain is set up to be ObviouslyEvil right from his introduction, yet when he assumes control over Balandor following [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler King Valtos' death]] and starts issuing orders, he actually comes across as the smartest and most practical man in the room, especially compared to Cyrus, who's first reaction is to [[GeneralRipper lobby for an attack on Faria]] and then storm off in a huff when Sarvain shoots him down.
* ThatOneBoss: ThatOneBoss:
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The two Wyverns you have to face in Van Haven Wastes are tough without being able to rely on the Knights.



** There's also a particularly nasty BossRush after this. [[spoiler: First you face Dragias of the past. He's not all that bad to defeat as long as you keep Cyrus in good health, but right after that, you will face the Sun King with Yulie and Caesar solo. All you need to know is that you can't defeat him and you need to survive long enough. But he also hits like a truck. Lose either Yulie and Caesar and it's game over. Survive long enough, and you have to face him one on one with the White Knight. All you have to know is that there's no [[CheckPointStarvation chance to save in between.]] Lose once, and you have to start all over again.]]

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** There's also a particularly nasty BossRush after this. [[spoiler: First you face Dragias of the past. He's not all that bad to defeat as long as you keep Cyrus in good health, but right after that, you will face the Sun King with Yulie and Caesar solo. All you need to know is that you can't defeat him and you need to survive long enough. But he also He hits like a truck. Lose either Yulie and Caesar and it's game over. Survive long enough, and you have to face him one on one with the White Knight. All you have to know is that there's no [[CheckPointStarvation chance to save in between.]] Lose once, and you have to start all over again.]]



** [[spoiler: Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[note]]who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled[[/note]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard/White Knight. Worst part? The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.]]

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** [[spoiler: Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, Then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[note]]who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled[[/note]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard/White Knight. Worst part? The Black Knight decides to join in. And if If you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.]]
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first game is fairly easy unless your new to {{JRPG}}s--''Origins'' is EXTREMELY easy and very very simplistic(Rushing at the enemy will generally lead to victory). Expect the same from the the second game, however...
* ItsHardSoItSucks: ...and it will rip out your spine and hand it to you. The second game is the counter punch to the arguments about the first game: Stronger enemies, weaker Knights, and a leveling curve roughly the shape of the Matterhorn. [[SarcasmMode Oh, but at least the sped up the turn gauge]].

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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first game is fairly easy unless your you're new to {{JRPG}}s--''Origins'' {{JRPG}}s. ''Origins'' is EXTREMELY easy and very very simplistic(Rushing at the enemy will generally lead to victory). Expect the same from the the second game, however...victory).
* ItsHardSoItSucks: ...ItsHardSoItSucks: If you expect the second game to be as easy as the first and it will rip out your spine and hand it to you. The second game is the counter punch to the arguments about the first game: Stronger enemies, weaker Knights, and a leveling curve roughly the shape of the Matterhorn. [[SarcasmMode Oh, but at least the sped up the turn gauge]].
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** That last one was particularly insulting, as there was an easy fix many fans pointed out that would have greatly improved the gameplay: Each attack has an individual recharge gauge, with weaker attacks recharging quickly and stronger ones more slowly.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Adolmaea wasuilt up to be [[TheDreaded a great and powerful threat]] at the end of the first game, but turns out to be a pushover thanks to Cisna's sealing magic.
** Grazel as well, in the first game. He turned out to be NotSoHarmless in the second, though
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** That last one was particularly insulting, as there was an easy fix many fans pointed out that would have greatly improved the gameplay: Each attack has an individual recharge gauge, with weaker attacks recharging quickly and stronger ones more slowly.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Male avatars are commonly shipped with Yulie, female with Cyrus.
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* DemonicSpiders: The Wraith giant mook. Completely invulnerable to physical damage (unless you hit it with holy light) which means if you aren't a dedicated mage or have a mage in your party you are done for when you fight it. Adding to that it has an annoying scythe sweep attack that knocks you of your feet if you are not wearing heavy armor, a LifeDrain spell which it makes liberal use of and, to make things even more infuriating, can summon five Succubi at once to aid it in battle.[[hottip:*:See GoddamnBats if you aren't familiar with the Succubi.]]
** Spirit Lords(Efreet and those like him) are pretty tough too. They spam powerful sorcery, and summon enormous flocks of elemental fish to help them pound you into the ground as long as their summoning appendages are not broken. This doesn't seem so bad, but there's two high-end BonusBoss versions. And, to make the above one seem more painful, another one of those bosses mentioned is a Wraith too.

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* DemonicSpiders: DemonicSpiders:
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The Wraith giant mook. Completely invulnerable to physical damage (unless you hit it with holy light) which means if you aren't a dedicated mage or have a mage in your party you are done for when you fight it. Adding to that it has an annoying scythe sweep attack that knocks you of off your feet if you are not wearing heavy armor, a LifeDrain spell which it makes liberal use of and, to make things even more infuriating, can summon five Succubi at once to aid it in battle.[[hottip:*:See [[note]]See GoddamnBats if you aren't familiar with the Succubi.]]
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** Spirit Lords(Efreet Lords (Efreet and those like him) are pretty tough too. They spam powerful sorcery, and summon enormous flocks of elemental fish to help them pound you into the ground as long as their summoning appendages are not broken. This doesn't seem so bad, but there's two high-end BonusBoss versions. And, to make the above one seem more painful, another one of those bosses mentioned is a Wraith too.



* GoddamnBats: The Skeletons. If you are underground or in a sufficiently dark place you can count on running into some of these. What makes them so annoying is that they are invulnerable to physical damage. You have to hit them five or six times before they collapse and give you a maybe 15 second long opportunity to clobber them after which they reform and the game start anew. The only upside is that they can be one-hit-killed with holy light once their soul is exposed.

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* GoddamnBats: GoddamnBats:
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The Skeletons. If you are underground or in a sufficiently dark place you can count on running into some of these. What makes them so annoying is that they are invulnerable to physical damage. You have to hit them five or six times before they collapse and give you a maybe 15 second long opportunity to clobber them after which they reform and the game start anew. The only upside is that they can be one-hit-killed with holy light once their soul is exposed.



* InternetBackdraft: Fans were ''not'' pleased when D3 had openly stated they have no intention of bringing the Avatar Story quest and other DLC over to North America, to the point where massive amounts of petitions were sent out.
** Also, the eternal debate between modders and "legit" players has caused quite an uproar on both the internet and in-game message boards.
** The announcement of an unexpected server closure caused many players who continue to support White Knight Chronicles to rage.

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* InternetBackdraft: InternetBackdraft:
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Fans were ''not'' pleased when D3 had openly stated they have no intention of bringing the Avatar Story quest and other DLC over to North America, to the point where massive amounts of petitions were sent out.
** Also, the The eternal debate between modders and "legit" players has caused quite an uproar on both the internet and in-game message boards.
** The announcement of an unexpected server closure caused many players who continue to support White ''White Knight Chronicles Chronicles'' to rage.



** [[spoiler: Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[hottip:*: Who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled,]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard/White Knight. Worst part? The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.]]

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** [[spoiler: Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[hottip:*: Who's Leonard[[note]]who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled,]] underlevelled[[/note]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard/White Knight. Worst part? The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.]]
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** The announcement of an unexpected server closure caused many players who continue to support White Knight Chronicles to rage.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Leonard and Cisna. It's one thing to foreshadow their romance with a cute childhood memory and having him realize that SheIsAllGrownUp; it's another to have him [[AbortedDeclarationOfLove nearly confess his love]] five minutes later and be willing to do ''anything'' to rescue her - particularly when his UnluckyChildhoodFriend (y'know, the one ''he's actually held a conversation or two with'') is so taken with him that EveryoneCanSeeIt.
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* BonusFeatureFailure: Arguably the Arc Knight. See: EleventhHourSuperPower.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: The Sun King [[spoiler: only in the first game though, because Princess Cisna's spell holds back his power. You get to fight him without this assistance in the sequel, and, as a result, he lives up to his reputation as a formidable boss-fight.]]
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** Also, the eternal debate between modders and "legit" players has caused quite an uproar on both the internet and in-game message boards.
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* InternetBackdraft: Fans were ''not'' pleased when D3 had openly stated they have no intention of bringing the Avatar Story quest and other DLC over to North America, to the point where massive amounts of petitions were sent out.
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** [[spoiler: Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[hottip:*: Who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled,]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard/White Knight. [[ItGotWorse Worst part?]] The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.]]

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** [[spoiler: Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[hottip:*: Who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled,]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard/White Knight. [[ItGotWorse Worst part?]] part? The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.]]
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* ThatOneSidequest: A large majority of the errands, but special mention has to go to the Flemron 108 quest. You have to get it from a monster who only spawns in one area in the game, and the drop rate for said item is near zero. Be prepared for ''days'' of farming.
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* ThatOneLevel: Frass Chasm. A ''huge'' area that's tough to navigate because of the dandelions you need to use to get around.

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* EightPointEight: While this game didn't really get remarkable reviews, with the general consensus giving it between a 6 to 8, IGN's famed [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/02/03/white-knight-chronicles-review 5.1]] riled up a lot of people on release.



** Caesar after he defeats Belicitane
--> Belicitane: "But how...? My Gigas"

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** Caesar after he defeats Belicitane
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--> Belicitane: Belecitane: "But how...? My Gigas"
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** Hell, the fight with the Specter before Leonard takes control of Wizel could qualify.
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** There's also a particularly nasty BossRush after this. [[spoiler: First you face Dragias of the past. He's not all that too bad to defeat, but right after that, you will face the Sun King with Yulie and Caesar solo. All you need to know is that you can't defeat him and you need to survive long enough. But he also hits like a truck. Lose either Yulie and Caesar and it's game over. Survive long enough, and you have to face him one on one with the White Knight. All you have to know is that there's no [[CheckPointStarvation chance to save in between.]] Lose once, and you have to start all over again.]]

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** There's also a particularly nasty BossRush after this. [[spoiler: First you face Dragias of the past. He's not all that too bad to defeat, defeat as long as you keep Cyrus in good health, but right after that, you will face the Sun King with Yulie and Caesar solo. All you need to know is that you can't defeat him and you need to survive long enough. But he also hits like a truck. Lose either Yulie and Caesar and it's game over. Survive long enough, and you have to face him one on one with the White Knight. All you have to know is that there's no [[CheckPointStarvation chance to save in between.]] Lose once, and you have to start all over again.]]
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** Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[hottip:*: Who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled,]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard. [[ItGotWorse Worst part?]] The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.

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** [[spoiler: Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[hottip:*: Who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled,]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard.Leonard/White Knight. [[ItGotWorse Worst part?]] The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again. ]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Be warned. ''Origins'' for the PSP may take place ten millenia before the first game, but you will NOT be running around as the people who originally sealed the Knights away and helped Mureas fight Madoras. In fact, aside from a few encounters with the Knights and the Gigantes, the game goes on a complete tangent and tells the story of Marhk, a kingdom wiped out by Yshrenia and completely forgotten by the events of the main series. Your avatar is tasked with stopping the apocalypse, the cause of which is ''completely separate'' from the Dogma War.

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*** Also note that pressing "Retry" will put you back at the beginning of Balandor's Secret Passage. That's right, if you didn't go and save at that logic stone for whatever reason, prepare to go through [[ThatOneLevel a dungeon]] that contains the aforementioned [[GoddamnedBats Succubus and Skeleton]] and [[DemonicSpiders Wraith]].
** Brimmflamme is on this for a whole different reason. First he's ''huge'' so you need to put down some chains to seal it. So there's a small mini dungeon path to go through first. Not that hard, but you have to fight Brimmflamme's head in the middle of this and it isn't a cakewalk. Then the actual Brimmflamme fight. A standard battle, access to knights. But then, in the middle of the fight, Leonard[[hottip:*: Who's been missing for half the game and is probably ''severely'' underlevelled,]] joins the fight. The fight is mandatory to have Leonard. [[ItGotWorse Worst part?]] The Black Knight decides to join in. And if you lose, prepare to do ''all'' of that again.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Be warned. ''Origins'' for the PSP may take place ten millenia before the first game, but you will NOT be running around as the people who originally sealed the Knights away and helped Mureas fight Madoras. In fact, aside from a few encounters with the Knights and the Gigantes, the game goes on a complete tangent and tells the story of Marhk, a kingdom wiped out by Yshrenia and completely forgotten by the events of the main series. Your avatar is tasked with stopping the apocalypse, the cause of which is ''completely separate'' from the Dogma War.

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** Ceasar after he defeats Belicitane

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** Ceasar Caesar after he defeats Belicitane



--> Ceasar: "How? I just busted your ass, that's how! Any questions?"

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** There's also a particularly nasty BossRush after this. [[spoiler: First you face Dragias of the past. He's not all that too bad to defeat, but right after that, you will face the Sun King with Yulie and Caesar solo. All you need to know is that you can't defeat him and you need to survive long enough. But he also hits like a truck. Lose either Yulie and Caesar and it's game over. Survive long enough, and you have to face him one on one with the White Knight. All you have to know is that there's no [[CheckPointStarvation chance to save in between.]] Lose once, and you have to start all over again.]]
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* OneSceneWonder: Phibbianacci and his guards.



** [[spoiler: Past Pyredaemos]] is pretty tough too, for the same reason as the Van Haven wyverns. In addition, you've got [[spoiler: Cyrus]] as a [[EscortMission guest party member]]; [[spoiler: his]] death is a Game Over.

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** [[spoiler: Past Pyredaemos]] is pretty tough too, for the same reason as the Van Haven wyverns. In addition, you've got [[spoiler: Cyrus]] as a [[EscortMission guest party member]]; [[spoiler: his]] death is a Game Over.Over.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Be warned. ''Origins'' for the PSP may take place ten millenia before the first game, but you will NOT be running around as the people who originally sealed the Knights away and helped Mureas fight Madoras. In fact, aside from a few encounters with the Knights and the Gigantes, the game goes on a complete tangent and tells the story of Marhk, a kingdom wiped out by Yshrenia and completely forgotten by the events of the main series. Your avatar is tasked with stopping the apocalypse, the cause of which is ''completely separate'' from the Dogma War.
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* ItsHardSoItSucks: The second game is the counter punch to the arguments about the first game. Stronger enemies, weaker Knights, and a leveling curve roughly the shape of the Matterhorn. [[SarcasmMode Oh, but at least the sped up the turn gauge]].

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* ItsHardSoItSucks: ItsHardSoItSucks: ...and it will rip out your spine and hand it to you. The second game is the counter punch to the arguments about the first game. game: Stronger enemies, weaker Knights, and a leveling curve roughly the shape of the Matterhorn. [[SarcasmMode Oh, but at least the sped up the turn gauge]].
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** [[spoiler: Past Pyredaemos]] is pretty tough too, for the same reason as the Van Haven wyverns, except that it's coupled with [[spoiler: Cyrus]] as a [[EscortMission guest party member]]; [[spoiler: his]] death is a Game Over.

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** [[spoiler: Past Pyredaemos]] is pretty tough too, for the same reason as the Van Haven wyverns, except that it's coupled with wyverns. In addition, you've got [[spoiler: Cyrus]] as a [[EscortMission guest party member]]; [[spoiler: his]] death is a Game Over.
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** [[spoiler: Past Pyredaemos]] is pretty tough too, for the same reason as the Van haven wyverns.

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** [[spoiler: Past Pyredaemos]] is pretty tough too, for the same reason as the Van haven wyverns.Haven wyverns, except that it's coupled with [[spoiler: Cyrus]] as a [[EscortMission guest party member]]; [[spoiler: his]] death is a Game Over.
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* BonusFeatureFailure: Arguably the Arc Knight. See: EleventhHourSuperPower.
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* ItsEasySoItSucks: The first game is fairly easy unless your new to {{JRPG}}s--''Origins'' is EXTREMELY easy and very very simplistic(Rushing at the enemy will generally lead to victory). Expect the same from the the second game, however...
* ItsHardSoItSucks: The second game is the counter punch to the arguments about the first game. Stronger enemies, weaker Knights, and a leveling curve roughly the shape of the Matterhorn. [[SarcasmMode Oh, but at least the sped up the turn gauge]].
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sarvain is set up to be ObviouslyEvil right from his introduction, yet when assumes control over Balandor following [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler King Valtos' death]] and starts issuing orders, he actually comes across as the smartest and most practical man in the room, especially compared to Cyrus, who's first reaction is to [[GeneralRipper lobby for an attack on Faria]] and then storm off in a huff when Sarvain shoots him down.

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