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* AccidentalInnuendo: After [[spoiler:America]] is beaten up by [[spoiler: two of the guards]] and shoved to the floor, [[spoiler: the AxCrazy ex-soldier]] comments that he likes [[spoiler:America]] better on his knees.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: After [[spoiler:America]] is beaten up by [[spoiler: two of the guards]] and shoved to the floor, [[spoiler: the AxCrazy ex-soldier]] comments that he likes [[spoiler:America]] him better on his knees.



** In canon, Silver Eyes runs on ThePowerOfFriendship and a desire to protect people. In this series [[spoiler:Silver Eyes are a SuperPoweredEvilSide that wants to destroy everyone in their path and ThePowerOfFriendship does [[AvertedTrope absolutely nothing]] to break Ruby out of her UnstoppableRage.]]

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** In canon, Silver Eyes runs on ThePowerOfFriendship and a desire to protect people. people and activate when Ruby's friends are in danger. In this series [[spoiler:Silver Eyes are a SuperPoweredEvilSide that wants to destroy everyone in their path and ThePowerOfFriendship does [[AvertedTrope Ruby's friends can do absolutely nothing]] nothing to break Ruby her out of her UnstoppableRage.]]



* SignatureScene: [[spoiler: The moment Yang attacks "Neo" and shoots "her" in the abdomen. It turns out Yang has been [[DeliriousMisidentification assaulting Alfred the whole time]]. ]]

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* SignatureScene: [[spoiler: The moment Yang attacks "Neo" and shoots "her" in the abdomen. It turns out Yang has been [[DeliriousMisidentification assaulting Alfred the whole time]]. ]]



** The author's notes state she was worried [[spoiler: Yang]] would seem unsympathetic when [[spoiler: she yelled at Blake for abandoning her team.]] The author needn't have worried. The ''opposite'' reaction happened, with a majority of fans rooting for [[spoiler:Yang]] and cheering when [[spoiler:Blake]] was given a well-deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. [[note]] In the author's defense, a majority of the ire towards [[spoiler: Blake]] seems to come from canon. [[/note]]
** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant even though Earth was uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[MisaimedFandom Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents]].

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** The author's notes state she was worried [[spoiler: Yang]] would seem unsympathetic when [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she yelled at Blake for abandoning her team.]] The author needn't have worried. The ''opposite'' reaction happened, with a majority of fans rooting for [[spoiler:Yang]] and cheering when [[spoiler:Blake]] was given a well-deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. [[note]] In the author's defense, a majority of the ire towards [[spoiler: Blake]] seems to come from canon. [[/note]]
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** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant even though Earth was uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] Remnant. This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] Ozpin being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[MisaimedFandom Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: All the times [[spoiler:Ozpin]] did not trust his followers with vital information [[spoiler:and made them fear he may hurt them]] becomes a lot harder to read after [[spoiler:it turns out canon Ozpin has the exact same characterization. In canon, he does not trust anyone with all the information and he tries to ''attack Ruby'' when she attempts to discover his secrets.]] In other words, what appeared to be AdaptationalVillainy in ''Weight of the World'' was revealed to be [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting nothing of the sort]].

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All the times [[spoiler:Ozpin]] did not trust his followers with vital information [[spoiler:and made them fear he may hurt them]] becomes a lot harder to read after [[spoiler:it turns out canon Ozpin has the exact same characterization. In canon, he does not trust anyone with all the information and he tries to ''attack Ruby'' when she attempts to discover his secrets.]] In other words, what appeared to be AdaptationalVillainy in ''Weight of the World'' was revealed to be [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting nothing of the sort]].sort]].
** In canon, Silver Eyes runs on ThePowerOfFriendship and a desire to protect people. In this series [[spoiler:Silver Eyes are a SuperPoweredEvilSide that wants to destroy everyone in their path and ThePowerOfFriendship does [[AvertedTrope absolutely nothing]] to break Ruby out of her UnstoppableRage.]]
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* BetterThanCanon: Many fans agree that the story handles subjects such as loss, PTSD, and grief with much more realism and grace than canon RWBY. Plotlines like [[spoiler:Silver Eyes being a SuperPoweredEvilSide and Ozpin's [[AmbiguouslyEvil questionable morality]]]] are praised for giving characters like Ruby (a VanillaProtagonist in the show) more depth and nuance and being more interesting than how [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot those plots are handled in the show]]. The series also has loads of worldbuilding for Remnant which gives the world its own vast history and culture. The audience is ''shown'' the world, not merely told about in through exposition or a World of Remnant segment.

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* BetterThanCanon: Many fans agree that the story handles subjects such as loss, PTSD, and grief with much more realism and grace than canon RWBY. Plotlines like [[spoiler:Silver Eyes being a SuperPoweredEvilSide and Ozpin's [[AmbiguouslyEvil questionable morality]]]] are praised for giving characters like Ruby (a VanillaProtagonist in the show) more depth and nuance and being more interesting than how [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot those plots are handled in the show]]. The series also has loads of worldbuilding for Remnant which gives the world its own vast history and culture. The audience is ''shown'' the world, not merely told about in it through exposition or a World of Remnant segment.
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* BetterThanCanon: Many fans agree that the story handles subjects such as loss, PTSD, and grief with much more realism and grace than canon RWBY. Plotlines like [[spoiler:Silver Eyes being a SuperPoweredEvilSide and Ozpin's [[AmbiguouslyEvil questionable morality]]]] are praised for giving characters like Ruby (a VanillaProtagonist in the show) more depth and nuance and being more interesting than how [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot those plots are handled in the show]]. The series also has loads of worldbuilding for Remnant which gives the world its own vast history and culture. The audience is ''shown'' the world, not merely told about in through exposition or a World of Remnant segment.


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* HilariousInHindsight: There is a trading town that the heroes stay in on the northernmost part of a continent. The town has a heavy Atlas military presence. Which town is being described: Frontier or Argus?
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* CreepyCute: [[spoiler:Penny 2.0]]. She [[TheUnblinking never blinks]], [[SociopathicHero kills remorselessly]], and says unsettling things about murder that should not be said in everyday conversations. She is also devoted to [[spoiler:America]] and is as cute as a button, especially when she begins learning the art of puns.


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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler:Yang Xiao Long]] has forgiven Blake for abandoning Team RWBY but many readers have not.

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* CatharsisFactor:

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* CatharsisFactor: AngstWhatAngst: Averted. Characters react appropriately to trauma and loss, most notably [[StepfordSmiler America]], [[BadPowersGoodPeople Canada]], [[ShellShockedVeteran Pyrrha]], and [[IronWoobie Ruby]]. For example, Ruby mourns Penny and suffers flashbacks from the trauma of losing an eye and [[spoiler:America]] goes to therapy in an attempt to work through his trauma.
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** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant, even though they were uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[MisaimedFandom Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents]].

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** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant, Remnant even though they were Earth was uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[MisaimedFandom Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents]].

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'''Warning: Spoilers from ''Weight of the World'' and ''The Shattered Soul'' are unmarked. Read at your own risk.'''
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** Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only "apologizes" to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]] Regardless of his initial thoughts, he grows to [[spoiler:regret what he's done and genuinely apologizes for the suffering he caused.]]
** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] hypocrite who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through hell and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]] [[spoiler:It becomes worse after it's implied Ilia grew gravely ill because Mantle's people lost their connection with Canada and she only survived because she sees Menagerie as her home now.]]

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** Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] Ironwood remorseful for [[spoiler:what what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Canada? Or does [[spoiler:he he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only "apologizes" to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]] Vale? Regardless of his initial thoughts, he grows to [[spoiler:regret what he's done and genuinely apologizes for the suffering he caused.]]
** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] hypocrite who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through hell and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if [[spoiler:if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]] [[spoiler:It becomes worse after it's implied Ilia grew gravely ill because Mantle's people lost their connection with Canada and she only survived because she sees Menagerie as her home now.]]



** Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel Vale's people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]
** [[spoiler:The AxCrazy [[NoNameGiven ex-soldier]]. He is a TortureTechnician who tortures America by carving the word "Sacrifice" into his back until [[AScarToRemember it sticks]] and then keeps coming back to do it over and over again. He encourages a fellow guard to beat up their helpless prisoner. While torturing America, he makes sure to [[PervyPatdown run his hands over his prisoner's skin]] and press his body against his [[ForTheEvulz just to terrify]] him. It's also implied he may have intended to [[RapeAsDrama assault]] America during their last encounter.]]
** [[spoiler: Atlas. She gave the scientists permission to dissect America and Canada. She sees the people of Earth as expendable. She wrongfully arrests and brainwashes her own people. She remorselessly attacks Weiss and Ruby when they are are unable to defend themselves. ''And'' she sadistically tortures America [[DisproportionateRetribution just because he refuses to yield to her and admit she]] did what was [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans "right"]]. Her rant also indicates [[IRejectYourReality she believes]] people and nations from Earth don't have souls.]] She has no redeeming qualities.

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** Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel Vale's people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]
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** [[spoiler:The The AxCrazy [[NoNameGiven ex-soldier]]. He is a TortureTechnician who tortures America [[spoiler:America by carving the word "Sacrifice" into his back until [[AScarToRemember it sticks]] sticks]]]] and then keeps coming back to do it over and over again. He encourages a fellow guard to beat up their helpless prisoner. While torturing America, [[spoiler:America]], he makes sure to [[PervyPatdown run his hands over his prisoner's skin]] and press his body against his [[ForTheEvulz just to terrify]] him. It's also implied he may have intended to [[RapeAsDrama assault]] America his victim during their last encounter.]]
** [[spoiler: Atlas. She gave the scientists permission to dissect America and Canada.
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She sees the people of Earth as expendable. She gave the scientists permission to [[spoiler:dissect America and Canada. She wrongfully arrests and brainwashes her own people. She remorselessly attacks Weiss and Ruby when they are are unable to defend themselves. ''And'' she sadistically tortures America [[DisproportionateRetribution just because he refuses to yield to her and admit she]] did what was [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans "right"]]. Her rant also indicates [[IRejectYourReality she believes]] people and nations from Earth don't have souls.]] She has no redeeming qualities.



** Quite a few moments, particularly in [[spoiler:chapters seven and sixteen of ''Weight of the World''. Chapter seven reveals Remnant has nation-tans (one of whom is Amber) and chapter sixteen has Yang unknowingly attack America and get arrested.]]
** [[spoiler:Chapter twenty-six of ''The Depths of Deception''. The heroes lose the Relic of Knowledge, Canada's connection with Mantle's people is severed, and America, France, Romano, and Australia are captured by Atlas soldiers and taken back to Remnant.]] [[{{HSQ}} Holy]] [[PrecisionFStrike shit.]]

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** Quite a few moments, particularly in [[spoiler:chapters chapters seven and sixteen of ''Weight of the World''. Chapter seven reveals Remnant has nation-tans (one of whom is Amber) and chapter sixteen has Yang unknowingly attack America and get arrested.]]
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** [[spoiler:Chapter Chapter twenty-six of ''The Depths of Deception''. The [[spoiler:The heroes lose the Relic of Knowledge, Canada's connection with Mantle's people is severed, and America, France, Romano, and Australia are captured by Atlas soldiers and taken back to Remnant.]] [[{{HSQ}} Holy]] [[PrecisionFStrike shit.]]



** Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood's actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights' massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line.]]
** If readers don't think [[spoiler: Polendina crossed the line when he kidnapped America, he certainly jumps over it when he allows his men to torture America and plans to tear out part of his Aura to use America's [[{{Technopathy}} Semblance]] for himself.]]

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** Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas Atlas and Ironwood's actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights' massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line. [[spoiler:Though it's later revealed Ironwood had no part in the Westwind Massacre.]]
** If readers don't think [[spoiler: Polendina [[spoiler:Polendina crossed the line when he kidnapped America, he certainly jumps over it when he allows his men to torture America and plans to tear out part of his Aura to use America's [[{{Technopathy}} Semblance]] for himself.]]



* RewatchBonus: There's foreshadowing galore for [[spoiler: the existence of Remnant nation-tans, America being Vale, Canada being Mantle, Ironwood's involvement, England's arrival on Remnant, Canada's Semblance, America's Semblance, Adam's identity as Menagerie, and even Pyrrha's [[SparedByTheAdaptation survival]].]]

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* RewatchBonus: There's foreshadowing galore for [[spoiler: the existence of Remnant nation-tans, America being Vale, Canada being Mantle, Ironwood's involvement, England's arrival on Remnant, Canada's Semblance, America's Semblance, Adam's [[spoiler:Adam's identity as Menagerie, Menagerie,]] and even Pyrrha's [[SparedByTheAdaptation survival]].]]
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** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant, even though they were uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents.

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** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant, even though they were uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[MisaimedFandom Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents.
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** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant, even though they were uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[FanDumb Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents]].

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** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant, even though they were uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[FanDumb Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only "apologizes" to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]] Regardless of his initial thoughts, he grows to [[spoiler:regret what he's done and genuinely apologizes for the suffering he caused.]]

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Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only "apologizes" to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]] Regardless of his initial thoughts, he grows to [[spoiler:regret what he's done and genuinely apologizes for the suffering he caused.]]



* CatharsisFactor: After all his lies and withholding of the truth, [[spoiler:seeing Yang punch Qrow in the face and floor him]] is satisfying to read.

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After all his lies and withholding of the truth, [[spoiler:seeing Yang punch Qrow in the face and floor him]] is satisfying to read.



* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel Vale's people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]

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Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel Vale's people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]



* HolyShitQuotient: Quite a few moments, particularly in [[spoiler:chapters seven and sixteen of ''Weight of the World''. Chapter seven reveals Remnant has nation-tans (one of whom is Amber) and chapter sixteen has Yang unknowingly attack America and get arrested.]]

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Quite a few moments, particularly in [[spoiler:chapters seven and sixteen of ''Weight of the World''. Chapter seven reveals Remnant has nation-tans (one of whom is Amber) and chapter sixteen has Yang unknowingly attack America and get arrested.]]



* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood's actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights' massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood's actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights' massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line.]]



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The author's notes state she was worried [[spoiler: Yang]] would seem unsympathetic when [[spoiler: she yelled at Blake for abandoning her team.]] The author needn't have worried. The ''opposite'' reaction happened, with a majority of fans rooting for [[spoiler:Yang]] and cheering when [[spoiler:Blake]] was given a well-deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. [[note]] In the author's defense, a majority of the ire towards [[spoiler: Blake]] seems to come from canon. [[/note]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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The author's notes state she was worried [[spoiler: Yang]] would seem unsympathetic when [[spoiler: she yelled at Blake for abandoning her team.]] The author needn't have worried. The ''opposite'' reaction happened, with a majority of fans rooting for [[spoiler:Yang]] and cheering when [[spoiler:Blake]] was given a well-deserved TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. [[note]] In the author's defense, a majority of the ire towards [[spoiler: Blake]] seems to come from canon. [[/note]]
** To a portion of readers, [[UpToEleven Remnant as a whole]] is this. Some feel Earth has been forced to sacrifice too much compared to Remnant, even though they were uninvolved in the war until Remnant dragged them into it. This made several readers hope that [[spoiler:the forces of Earth will have enough and use nuclear weapons on Remnant.]] This is despite only [[spoiler:Atlas, Salem, and maybe Ozpin]] being responsible for Earth's involvement in the first place, and [[FanDumb Remnant being home to half the main characters and millions of innocents]].
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* IronWoobie:
** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]Then Penny 2.0 leads him to Ironwood and he is nearly captured again. It is also hinted he is suffering from [=PTSD=]. Later he faces Atlas and she ruthlessly [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] him, forcing Italy to [[MercyKill shoot him]] so he can [[HealingFactor heal]] from his [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice horrific wounds]] in peace. ''Then'' he finds out he's [[YourDaysAreNumbered dying]].]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
** '''Ruby''': [[spoiler:She loses an eye during the Battle of Beacon. She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder's plans and only hung out with her to get information. More than half of her friends [[DeathFakedForYou "die"]] on their mission to Mistral. She learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem. Her team arrives far too late and lose the Relic of Knowledge thus making their mission AllForNothing. She can only sit in the empty Vault with Mistral's body and cry. She finds out Silver Eyes make S.E.Ws go berserk and kill anyone near them, and that her mother died in a [[SenselessSacrifice futile and ill-conceived mission]] to kill Salem. Her uncle is impaled saving her and she uses [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Silver Eyes]], attacking Weiss and Japan. Then she finds out her uncle's injury [[CareerEndingInjury left him paralyzed]] and she blames herself not only for that, but for the before-mentioned attack on her friends.]] Still, she keeps her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.
** '''Pyrrha''': [[spoiler:She accidentally kills Penny, her friend. Because of Penny's death, people fear her, hate her, or [[TheScapegoat blame her for the fall of Beacon]]. She's taken from her world and everyone she loves and dropped into a new, unfamiliar one. She finds out the people she has been fighting for (Ozpin and Ironwood) lied to her and have done terrible things she cannot justify, making her question her entire purpose in life. She suffers from nightmares about [[AccidentalMurder Penny's death]] and America's [[DeathOfPersonality situation]], revealing she feels responsible for both. She is terrified of her own Semblance because of what happened to Penny. And her decision to tackle England and stop him from stopping America from leaving helped lead to America's latest abduction.]]
** '''Canada''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on along with America. He accidentally causes his brother to get amnesia by killing Cinder. His Semblance allows him to [[BadPowersGoodPeople erase people's memories]] and he accidentally uses it on France. Mantle's crumbling state is slowly killing him and he nearly dies when a mine under Mantle collapses. Luckily, England was able to save him.]]
* JerkassWoobie:
** '''England:''' He genuinely wants what is best for America, but his aloof, critical, and harsh nature and bouts of AngerBornOfWorry make him unintentionally reject and hurt America multiple times. [[note]] One instance of which led to America ''[[spoiler:questioning if he deserved what happened to him]]''. [[/note]] He also knowingly almost [[spoiler:dooms the people of Vale (including Ruby and Yang) to a nation-wide LossOfIdentity, an act which leads to America's capture by Polendina.]] Ultimately, England's hatred for [[spoiler:anything to do with Remnant]] is understandable considering what they did to [[spoiler:the twins]] and his subtle displays of a hidden caring nature and guilt over his actions towards America help push him into this trope and JerkWithAHeartOfGold territory.
** [[spoiler: '''Vale/Amber:''']] She is harsh, ruthless, cynical, and critical, and always pushes people away but she has her reasons. [[spoiler:She was betrayed by Mistral, one of her only [[FalseFriend "friends".]] Mantle (her brother) revealed her location to save himself and Cinder attacked her, draining part of her Aura. When she is unconscious in the pod and her Aura is being drained out, she is [[AndIMustScream completely aware]]. Her Academy is overrun by Grimm. She is betrayed by Mistral ''again''. She is trapped in America's head and is completely unable to interact with the outside world. She figures out Vale (the Kingdom) is dying long before America does and begins lashing out at him because of the knowledge that they [[YourDaysAreNumbered are dying with it]].]] Despite her attitude, you can't help but feel bad for her after you find out why she's acting that way.
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* HarsherInHindsight: All the times [[spoiler:Ozpin]] did not trust his followers with vital information [[spoiler:and made them fear he may hurt them]] becomes a lot harder to read after [[spoiler:it turns out canon Ozpin has [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting the exact same characterization]]. In canon, he does not trust anyone with all the information and he tries to ''attack Ruby'' when she attempts to discover his secrets.]] In other words, what appeared to be AdaptationalVillainy in ''Weight of the World'' was revealed to be nothing of the sort.

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* HarsherInHindsight: All the times [[spoiler:Ozpin]] did not trust his followers with vital information [[spoiler:and made them fear he may hurt them]] becomes a lot harder to read after [[spoiler:it turns out canon Ozpin has [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting has the exact same characterization]].characterization. In canon, he does not trust anyone with all the information and he tries to ''attack Ruby'' when she attempts to discover his secrets.]] In other words, what appeared to be AdaptationalVillainy in ''Weight of the World'' was revealed to be [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting nothing of the sort.sort]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: All the times [[spoiler:Ozpin]] did not trust his followers with vital information [[spoiler:and made them fear he may hurt them]] becomes a lot harder to read after [[spoiler:it turns out canon Ozpin has the exact same characterization. In canon, he does not trust anyone with all the information and he tries to ''attack Ruby'' when she attempts to discover his secrets.]] In other words, what appeared to be AdaptationalVillainy in ''Weight of the World'' was revealed to be nothing of the sort.

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* HarsherInHindsight: All the times [[spoiler:Ozpin]] did not trust his followers with vital information [[spoiler:and made them fear he may hurt them]] becomes a lot harder to read after [[spoiler:it turns out canon Ozpin has [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting the exact same characterization.characterization]]. In canon, he does not trust anyone with all the information and he tries to ''attack Ruby'' when she attempts to discover his secrets.]] In other words, what appeared to be AdaptationalVillainy in ''Weight of the World'' was revealed to be nothing of the sort.
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** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] hypocrite who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through [[{{Understatement}} hell]] and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]] [[spoiler:It becomes worse after it's implied Ilia grew gravely ill because Mantle's people lost their connection with Canada and she only survived because she sees Menagerie as her home now.]]

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** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] hypocrite who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through [[{{Understatement}} hell]] hell and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]] [[spoiler:It becomes worse after it's implied Ilia grew gravely ill because Mantle's people lost their connection with Canada and she only survived because she sees Menagerie as her home now.]]
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** Bleeding over from feelings due to [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]], some feel TheReasonYouSuck speech directed at [[spoiler: Blake by Yang]] was well-deserved.

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** Bleeding over from feelings due to [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]], some feel TheReasonYouSuck speech TheReasonYouSuckSpeech directed at [[spoiler: Blake by Yang]] was well-deserved.



* TheScrappy: Primarily due to [[TheStationsOfTheCanon canon events,]] Blake is this to many readers. [[spoiler:Her decision to leave Team RWBY [[WhatAnIdiot without warning anyone about Adam]], her [[AesopAmnesia inability to learn from her mistakes]], her [[IWorkAlone loner attitude]], and how she did not return to RWBY through a conscious decision but only through [[ContrivedCoincidence chance]]]] has not charmed her to the majority. So much so that [[spoiler: Yang chewing her out, listing her flaws, and refusing to forgive her for leaving]] is seen as a TakeThatScrappy moment by most fans. Her reaction to [[spoiler:Sun being the personification of Vacuo]] only increased the dislike thanks to her hypocrisy.

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* TheScrappy: Primarily due to [[TheStationsOfTheCanon canon events,]] Blake is this to many readers. [[spoiler:Her Her decision to leave Team RWBY [[WhatAnIdiot without warning anyone about Adam]], her [[AesopAmnesia inability to learn from her mistakes]], her [[IWorkAlone loner attitude]], and how she did not return to RWBY through a conscious decision but [[spoiler:but only through [[ContrivedCoincidence chance]]]] has not charmed her to the majority. So much so that [[spoiler: Yang chewing her out, listing her flaws, and refusing to forgive her for leaving]] is seen as a TakeThatScrappy moment by most fans. Her reaction to [[spoiler:Sun being the personification of Vacuo]] only increased the dislike thanks to her hypocrisy.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The author's notes state she was worried [[spoiler: Yang]] would seem unsympathetic when [[spoiler: she yelled at Blake for abandoning her team.]] The author needn't have worried. The ''opposite'' reaction happened, with a majority of fans rooting for [[spoiler:Yang]] and cheering when [[spoiler:Blake]] was given a well-deserved TheReasonYouSuck speech. [[note]] In the author's defense, a majority of the ire towards [[spoiler: Blake]] seems to come from canon. [[/note]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The author's notes state she was worried [[spoiler: Yang]] would seem unsympathetic when [[spoiler: she yelled at Blake for abandoning her team.]] The author needn't have worried. The ''opposite'' reaction happened, with a majority of fans rooting for [[spoiler:Yang]] and cheering when [[spoiler:Blake]] was given a well-deserved TheReasonYouSuck speech.TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. [[note]] In the author's defense, a majority of the ire towards [[spoiler: Blake]] seems to come from canon. [[/note]]
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* FanNickname: Ozpinati for Ozpin's group.
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* IKnewIt: Many readers suspected [[spoiler:Sun was the personification of Vacuo]] long before it was revealed due to hints sprinkled throughout the series.
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** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]Then Penny 2.0 leads him to Ironwood and he is nearly captured again. It is also hinted he is suffering from [=PTSD=]. Later he faces Atlas and she ruthlessly [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] him, forcing Italy to [[MercyKill shoot him]] so he can [[HealingFactor heal]] from his [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice horrific wounds]] in peace.]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
** '''Ruby''': [[spoiler:She loses an eye during the Battle of Beacon. She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder's plans and only hung out with her to get information. More than half of her friends [[DeathFakedForYou "die"]] on their mission to Mistral. She learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem. Her team arrives far too late and lose the Relic of Knowledge thus making their mission AllForNothing. She can only sit in the empty Vault with Mistral's body and cry.]] Still, she keeps her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.

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** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]Then Penny 2.0 leads him to Ironwood and he is nearly captured again. It is also hinted he is suffering from [=PTSD=]. Later he faces Atlas and she ruthlessly [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] him, forcing Italy to [[MercyKill shoot him]] so he can [[HealingFactor heal]] from his [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice horrific wounds]] in peace. ''Then'' he finds out he's [[YourDaysAreNumbered dying]].]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
** '''Ruby''': [[spoiler:She loses an eye during the Battle of Beacon. She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder's plans and only hung out with her to get information. More than half of her friends [[DeathFakedForYou "die"]] on their mission to Mistral. She learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem. Her team arrives far too late and lose the Relic of Knowledge thus making their mission AllForNothing. She can only sit in the empty Vault with Mistral's body and cry. She finds out Silver Eyes make S.E.Ws go berserk and kill anyone near them, and that her mother died in a [[SenselessSacrifice futile and ill-conceived mission]] to kill Salem. Her uncle is impaled saving her and she uses [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Silver Eyes]], attacking Weiss and Japan. Then she finds out her uncle's injury [[CareerEndingInjury left him paralyzed]] and she blames herself not only for that, but for the before-mentioned attack on her friends.]] Still, she keeps her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.

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* JerkassWoobie: England. He genuinely wants what is best for America, but his aloof, critical, and harsh nature and bouts of AngerBornOfWorry make him unintentionally reject and hurt America multiple times. [[note]] One instance of which led to America ''[[spoiler:questioning if he deserved what happened to him]]''. [[/note]] He also knowingly almost [[spoiler:dooms the people of Vale (including Ruby and Yang) to a nation-wide LossOfIdentity, an act which leads to America's capture by Polendina.]] Ultimately, England's hatred for [[spoiler:anything to do with Remnant]] is understandable considering what they did to [[spoiler:the twins]] and his subtle displays of a hidden caring nature and guilt over his actions towards America help push him into this trope and JerkWithAHeartOfGold territory.

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He genuinely wants what is best for America, but his aloof, critical, and harsh nature and bouts of AngerBornOfWorry make him unintentionally reject and hurt America multiple times. [[note]] One instance of which led to America ''[[spoiler:questioning if he deserved what happened to him]]''. [[/note]] He also knowingly almost [[spoiler:dooms the people of Vale (including Ruby and Yang) to a nation-wide LossOfIdentity, an act which leads to America's capture by Polendina.]] Ultimately, England's hatred for [[spoiler:anything to do with Remnant]] is understandable considering what they did to [[spoiler:the twins]] and his subtle displays of a hidden caring nature and guilt over his actions towards America help push him into this trope and JerkWithAHeartOfGold territory.territory.
** [[spoiler: '''Vale/Amber:''']] She is harsh, ruthless, cynical, and critical, and always pushes people away but she has her reasons. [[spoiler:She was betrayed by Mistral, one of her only [[FalseFriend "friends".]] Mantle (her brother) revealed her location to save himself and Cinder attacked her, draining part of her Aura. When she is unconscious in the pod and her Aura is being drained out, she is [[AndIMustScream completely aware]]. Her Academy is overrun by Grimm. She is betrayed by Mistral ''again''. She is trapped in America's head and is completely unable to interact with the outside world. She figures out Vale (the Kingdom) is dying long before America does and begins lashing out at him because of the knowledge that they [[YourDaysAreNumbered are dying with it]].]] Despite her attitude, you can't help but feel bad for her after you find out why she's acting that way.
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** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]Then Penny 2.0 leads him to Ironwood and he is nearly captured again. It is also hinted he is suffering from [=PTSD=].]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].

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** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]Then Penny 2.0 leads him to Ironwood and he is nearly captured again. It is also hinted he is suffering from [=PTSD=]. Later he faces Atlas and she ruthlessly [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]] him, forcing Italy to [[MercyKill shoot him]] so he can [[HealingFactor heal]] from his [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice horrific wounds]] in peace.]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
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** [[spoiler: Atlas. She gave the scientists permission to dissect America and Canada. She sees the people of Earth as expendable. She wrongfully arrests and brainwashes her own people. She remorselessly attacks Weiss and Ruby when they are are unable to defend themselves. ''And'' she sadistically tortures America [[DisproportionateRetribution just because he refuses to yield to her and admit she]] did what was [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans "right"]]. Her rant also indicates [[IRejectYourReality she believes]] people and nations from Earth don't have souls.]] She has no redeeming qualities.


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** [[spoiler:Doctor Polendina post FaceHeelTurn.]] Has he become so deranged that he is [[ObliviouslyEvil oblivious to his evil actions]] and how much he hurts [[spoiler:America]]? Or is he perfectly aware of the pain he causes but wears a [[FauxAffablyEvil well-intentioned]][[MaskOfSanity mask]] in an attempt to seem sympathetic to his prisoner?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only "apologizes" to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only "apologizes" to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]] Regardless of his initial thoughts, he grows to [[spoiler:regret what he's done and genuinely apologizes for the suffering he caused.]]



** [[spoiler:Doctor Polendina post FaceHeelTurn. Has he become so deranged that he is [[ObliviouslyEvil oblivious to his evil actions]] and how much he hurts America? Or is he perfectly aware of the pain he is causing but wears a [[FauxAffablyEvil well-intentioned]] [[MaskOfSanity mask]] in an attempt to seem sympathetic to his prisoner?]]
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** Is [[spoiler:Ozpin]] a ManipulativeBastard who is trying to hold all the info and thus stand above everyone else for (in his eyes) [[TheNeedsOfTheMany the good of Remnant]] or [[spoiler:has [[WhoWantsToLiveForever he]] [[MyGreatestFailure lost]] [[MayflyDecemberFriendship so many people]] and [[EtTuBrute been betrayed so many times]] that he doesn't [[AllForNothing see the point]] of giving people information until they ask for it]]?



* TheScrappy: Primarily due to [[TheStationsOfTheCanon canon events,]] Blake is this to many readers. [[spoiler:Her decision to leave Team RWBY [[WhatAnIdiot without warning anyone about Adam]], her [[AesopAmnesia inability to learn from her mistakes]], her [[IWorkAlone loner attitude]], and how she did not return to RWBY through a conscious decision but only through [[ContrivedCoincidence chance]]]] has not charmed her to the majority. So much so that [[spoiler: Yang chewing her out, listing her flaws, and refusing to forgive her for leaving]] is seen as a TakeThatScrappy moment by most fans.

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* TheScrappy: Primarily due to [[TheStationsOfTheCanon canon events,]] Blake is this to many readers. [[spoiler:Her decision to leave Team RWBY [[WhatAnIdiot without warning anyone about Adam]], her [[AesopAmnesia inability to learn from her mistakes]], her [[IWorkAlone loner attitude]], and how she did not return to RWBY through a conscious decision but only through [[ContrivedCoincidence chance]]]] has not charmed her to the majority. So much so that [[spoiler: Yang chewing her out, listing her flaws, and refusing to forgive her for leaving]] is seen as a TakeThatScrappy moment by most fans. Her reaction to [[spoiler:Sun being the personification of Vacuo]] only increased the dislike thanks to her hypocrisy.
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** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].

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** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]]] [[/note]]Then Penny 2.0 leads him to Ironwood and he is nearly captured again. It is also hinted he is suffering from [=PTSD=].]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
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** In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' [[spoiler:a soldier tortures America and scars him in chapter six. In chapter seven, it's revealed ''Vale is alive'' and stuck in America's head. And in chapter nine '''Penny 2.0 is activated''' and ''slaughters'' Polendina and his soldiers.]]

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** In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' [[spoiler:a soldier tortures America and scars him in chapter six. In chapter seven, it's revealed ''Vale is alive'' and stuck in America's head. And in chapter nine '''Penny Penny 2.0 is activated''' activated and ''slaughters'' Polendina and his soldiers.]]
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** In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' [[spoiler:a soldier tortures America and scars him in chapter six. In chapter seven, it's revealed ''Vale is alive'' and stuck in America's head.]]

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** In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' [[spoiler:a soldier tortures America and scars him in chapter six. In chapter seven, it's revealed ''Vale is alive'' and stuck in America's head. And in chapter nine '''Penny 2.0 is activated''' and ''slaughters'' Polendina and his soldiers.]]



** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[DisproportionateRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier]]. After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].

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** '''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor. He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''. His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[DisproportionateRetribution [[MisplacedRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier]]. soldier. When he is finally freed, the AxCrazy soldier attacks him again. [[note]] and may have intended to rape him [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything depending on your interpretation of the scene.]] [[/note]]]] After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].

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