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** [[spoiler:The AxCrazy [[NoNameGiven ex-soldier]]. He is a TortureTechnician who tortures America by carving the word "Sacrifice" into his back until [[AScarToRemember it sticks]] and then keeps coming back to do it over and over again. He encourages a fellow guard to beat up their helpless prisoner. While torturing America, he makes sure to [[PervyPatdown run his hands over his prisoner's skin]] and press his body against his [[ForTheEvulz just to terrify]] him. It's also implied he may have intended to [[RapeAsDrama assault]] America during their last encounter.]]
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* JerkassWoobie: England. He genuinely wants what is best for America, but his aloof, critical, and harsh nature and bouts of AngerBornOfWorry make him unintentionally reject and hurt America multiple times. [[note]] One instance of which led to America ''[[spoiler:questioning if he deserved what happened to him]]''. [[/note]] He also knowingly almost [[spoiler:dooms the people of Vale (including Ruby and Yang) to a nation-wide LossOfIdentity, an act which leads to America's capture by Polendina.]] Ultimately, England's hatred for [[spoiler:anything to do with Remnant]] is understandable considering what they did to [[spoiler:the twins]] and his subtle displays of a hidden caring nature and guilt over his actions towards America help push him into this trope and JerkWithAHeartOfGold territory.

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** America:
*** [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas.]]
*** [[spoiler:Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo.]]
*** [[spoiler:He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth.]]
*** [[spoiler:He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice".]]
*** [[spoiler:[[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die.]]
*** [[spoiler:Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor.]]
*** [[spoiler:He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage.]]
*** [[spoiler:He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]].]]
*** [[spoiler:England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale.]]
*** [[spoiler: He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab.]]
*** [[spoiler:He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move.]]
*** [[spoiler:England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America.]]
*** [[spoiler:Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''.]]
*** [[spoiler:His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that.]]
*** [[spoiler: He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars.]]
*** [[spoiler: He is unable to defend himself as he is [[DisproportionateRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier]]. After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
** Ruby:
*** [[spoiler:She loses an eye during the Battle of Beacon.]]
*** [[spoiler:She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder's plans.]]
*** [[spoiler: More than half of her friends "die" on their mission to Mistral.]]
*** [[spoiler:She learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem.]]
*** [[spoiler:Her team arrives far too late and lose the Relic of Knowledge. She can only sit in the empty Vault with Mistral's body and cry.]] Still, she keeps her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.
** Pyrrha:
*** [[spoiler:She accidentally kills Penny, her friend.]]
*** [[spoiler:Because of Penny's death, people fear her, hate her, or [[TheScapegoat blame her for the fall of Beacon]].]]
*** [[spoiler:She's taken from her world and everyone she loves and dropped into a new, unfamiliar one.]]
*** [[spoiler:She finds out the people she has been fighting for (Ozpin and Ironwood) lied to her and have done terrible things she cannot justify, making her question her entire purpose in life.]]
*** [[spoiler: She suffers from nightmares about [[AccidentalMurder Penny's death]] and America's [[DeathOfPersonality situation]], revealing she feels responsible for both.]]
*** [[spoiler: She is terrified of her own Semblance because of what happened to Penny.]]
** Canada:
*** He was [[spoiler:abducted and experimented on]] along with America.
*** He [[spoiler:accidentally causes his brother to get amnesia by killing Cinder.]]
*** [[spoiler:His Semblance allows him to [[BadPowersGoodPeople erase people's memories]] and he accidentally uses it on France.]]
*** [[spoiler:Mantle's crumbling state is slowly killing him.]]
*** [[spoiler: He nearly dies when a mine under Mantle collapses. Luckily, England was able to save him.]]

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** America:
***
'''America''': [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas.]]
*** [[spoiler:Yang
Atlas. Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo.]]
*** [[spoiler:He
Neo. He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth.]]
*** [[spoiler:He
Earth. He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above "choice".]]
*** [[spoiler:[[FalseFriend
"choice". [[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betray him and leave him to die.]]
*** [[spoiler:Raven
die. Raven finds him and slashes his throat when he refuses to join her. He only survives because of his HealingFactor.]]
*** [[spoiler:He
He is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage.]]
*** [[spoiler:He
hostage. He remembers [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]].]]
*** [[spoiler:England
him]]. England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale.]]
*** [[spoiler:
Vale. He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab.]]
*** [[spoiler:He
lab. He is also secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move.]]
*** [[spoiler:England
move. England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America.]]
*** [[spoiler:Then
America. Then he is abducted by soldiers and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''.]]
*** [[spoiler:His
His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that.]]
*** [[spoiler:
that. He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars.]]
*** [[spoiler:
scars. He is unable to defend himself as he is [[DisproportionateRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier]]. After all of that, somehow he ''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
** Ruby:
***
'''Ruby''': [[spoiler:She loses an eye during the Battle of Beacon.]]
*** [[spoiler:She
Beacon. She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder's plans.]]
*** [[spoiler:
plans and only hung out with her to get information. More than half of her friends "die" [[DeathFakedForYou "die"]] on their mission to Mistral.]]
*** [[spoiler:She
Mistral. She learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem.]]
*** [[spoiler:Her
Salem. Her team arrives far too late and lose the Relic of Knowledge.Knowledge thus making their mission AllForNothing. She can only sit in the empty Vault with Mistral's body and cry.]] Still, she keeps her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.
** Pyrrha:
***
'''Pyrrha''': [[spoiler:She accidentally kills Penny, her friend.friend. Because of Penny's death, people fear her, hate her, or [[TheScapegoat blame her for the fall of Beacon]]. She's taken from her world and everyone she loves and dropped into a new, unfamiliar one. She finds out the people she has been fighting for (Ozpin and Ironwood) lied to her and have done terrible things she cannot justify, making her question her entire purpose in life. She suffers from nightmares about [[AccidentalMurder Penny's death]] and America's [[DeathOfPersonality situation]], revealing she feels responsible for both. She is terrified of her own Semblance because of what happened to Penny. And her decision to tackle England and stop him from stopping America from leaving helped lead to America's latest abduction.]]
*** [[spoiler:Because of Penny's death, people fear her, hate her, or [[TheScapegoat blame her for the fall of Beacon]].]]
*** [[spoiler:She's taken from her world and everyone she loves and dropped into a new, unfamiliar one.]]
*** [[spoiler:She finds out the people she has been fighting for (Ozpin and Ironwood) lied to her and have done terrible things she cannot justify, making her question her entire purpose in life.]]
*** [[spoiler: She suffers from nightmares about [[AccidentalMurder Penny's death]] and America's [[DeathOfPersonality situation]], revealing she feels responsible for both.]]
*** [[spoiler: She is terrified of her own Semblance because of what happened to Penny.]]
** Canada:
*** He
'''Canada''': [[spoiler:He was [[spoiler:abducted abducted and experimented on]] on along with America.
***
America. He [[spoiler:accidentally accidentally causes his brother to get amnesia by killing Cinder.]]
*** [[spoiler:His
Cinder. His Semblance allows him to [[BadPowersGoodPeople erase people's memories]] and he accidentally uses it on France.]]
*** [[spoiler:Mantle's
France. Mantle's crumbling state is slowly killing him.]]
*** [[spoiler: He
him and he nearly dies when a mine under Mantle collapses. Luckily, England was able to save him.]]
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** If readers don't think [[spoiler: Polendina crossed the line when he kidnapped America, he certainly jumps over it when he allows his men to torture America and plans to tear out part of his Aura to use America's [[{{Technopathy}} Semblance]] for himself.]]

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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Has its own page [[Funny/WeightOfTheWorld here]].



** [[spoiler:Chapter twenty-six of ''The Depths of Deception''.]] [[{{HSQ}} Holy]] [[PrecisionFStrike shit.]]

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** [[spoiler:Chapter twenty-six of ''The Depths of Deception''. The heroes lose the Relic of Knowledge, Canada's connection with Mantle's people is severed, and America, France, Romano, and Australia are captured by Atlas soldiers and taken back to Remnant.]] [[{{HSQ}} Holy]] [[PrecisionFStrike shit.]]
** In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' [[spoiler:a soldier tortures America and scars him in chapter six. In chapter seven, it's revealed ''Vale is alive'' and stuck in America's head.
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*** [[spoiler:His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that.]] Even after all of that, he never stops fighting.

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*** [[spoiler:His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck and expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the dead, despite the impossibility of that.]] Even after ]]
*** [[spoiler: He is tortured by an AxCrazy soldier who carves SACRIFICE into his back over and over until it scars.]]
*** [[spoiler: He is unable to defend himself as he is [[DisproportionateRetribution needlessly]] beaten up by another vengeful soldier in the bathroom at the encouragement of the AxCrazy soldier]]. After
all of that, somehow he never stops fighting.''still'' [[{{Determinator}} doesn't give up]].
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* AccidentalInnuendo: After America is beaten up by [[spoiler: two of the guards]] and shoved to the floor, [[spoiler: the AxCrazy ex-soldier]] comments that he likes America better on his knees.

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* AccidentalInnuendo: After America [[spoiler:America]] is beaten up by [[spoiler: two of the guards]] and shoved to the floor, [[spoiler: the AxCrazy ex-soldier]] comments that he likes America [[spoiler:America]] better on his knees.
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* TheScrappy: Primarily due to [[TheStationsOfTheCanon canon events,]] Blake is this to many readers. [[spoiler:Her decision to leave Team RWBY [[WhatAnIdiot without warning anyone about Adam]], her [[AesopAmnesia inability to learn from her mistakes]], her [[IWorkAlone loner attitude]], and how she did not return to RWBY through a conscious decision but only through [[ContrivedCoincidence chance]]]] has not charmed her to the majority. So much so that [[spoiler: Yang chewing her out, listing her flaws, and refusing to forgive her for leaving]] is seen as a TakeThatScrappy moment by most fans.

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** Bleeding over from feelings due to [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]], some feel TheReasonYouSuck speech directed at [[spoiler: Blake by Yang]] was well-deserved.




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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The author's notes state she was worried [[spoiler: Yang]] would seem unsympathetic when [[spoiler: she yelled at Blake for abandoning her team.]] The author needn't have worried. The ''opposite'' reaction happened, with a majority of fans rooting for [[spoiler:Yang]] and cheering when [[spoiler:Blake]] was given a well-deserved TheReasonYouSuck speech. [[note]] In the author's defense, a majority of the ire towards [[spoiler: Blake]] seems to come from canon. [[/note]]
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* FridgeHorror: It is implied America [[spoiler:is willing to endure physical and verbal abuse if it makes his friends and family willing to keep him around. His sense of self-worth is so low that rather than fight back against insults and violence [[DomesticAbuse perpetrated by a loved one]], he braces himself and will let the aggressors do what they want. He also often blames himself when things go wrong. It would be easy for certain types of people to take advantage of that mentality...]]
** [[spoiler: The guards Polendina hired are ex-soldiers fired from the Atlas lab. They were likely fired because America and Canada escaped. America is completely at his captors' mercy. Who's to say the soldiers won't hold a grudge and [[DisproportionateRetribution act on it]]?]]
** [[spoiler:Ilia became badly ill. She collapsed with white skin and violet eyes (like Canada's), becoming feverish and babbling about being cold. This happened right after the Haven fight, which just so happens to be when Canada's connection with Mantle's people was severed. Ilia was originally from Mantle but now sees Menagerie as her home because of the Belladonnas. ''Is this what happens when people lose their personification?'' If so, it puts England's [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide intentions for Vale]] [[WhatTheHellHero in a much darker light]].]]
** [[spoiler:Pyrrha's mom is a Huntress and is currently on a mission. If what happens to all the Huntsman and Huntresses from Mistral that went on missions [[Recap/RWBYV5E6KnownByItsSong remains unchanged from canon]], Pyrrha's mom is likely '''[[KilledOffForReal dead.]]''']]
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* HeartwarmingMoments: Has its own page [[Heartwarming/WeightOfTheWorld here]].



* MomentOfAwesome: Has its own page [[Awesome/WeightOfTheWorld here]].



* NightmareFuel: Has its own page [[NightmareFuel/WeightOfTheWorld here]].




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** [[spoiler:Doctor Polendina post FaceHeelTurn. Has he become so deranged that he is [[ObliviouslyEvil oblivious to his evil actions]] and how much he hurts America? Or is he perfectly aware of the pain he is causing but wears a [[FauxAffablyEvil well-intentioned]] [[MaskOfSanity mask]] in an attempt to seem sympathetic to his prisoner?]]
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** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] hypocrite who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through [[{{Understatement}} hell]] and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]]

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** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] hypocrite who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through [[{{Understatement}} hell]] and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]] [[spoiler:It becomes worse after it's implied Ilia grew gravely ill because Mantle's people lost their connection with Canada and she only survived because she sees Menagerie as her home now.]]



** [[spoiler:Ilia became badly ill. She collapsed with white skin and violet eyes (like Canada's), becoming feverish and babbling about being cold. This happened right after the Haven fight, which just so happens to be when Canada's connection with Mantle's people was severed. Ilia was originally from Mantle but now sees Menagerie as her home because of the Belladonnas. ''Is this what happens when people lose their personification?'' If so, it puts England's intentions for Vale [[WhatTheHellHero in a much darker light]].]]

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** [[spoiler:Ilia became badly ill. She collapsed with white skin and violet eyes (like Canada's), becoming feverish and babbling about being cold. This happened right after the Haven fight, which just so happens to be when Canada's connection with Mantle's people was severed. Ilia was originally from Mantle but now sees Menagerie as her home because of the Belladonnas. ''Is this what happens when people lose their personification?'' If so, it puts England's [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide intentions for Vale Vale]] [[WhatTheHellHero in a much darker light]].]]



*** He is also [[spoiler:secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move.]]

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** [[spoiler:Ilia got badly ill. She collapsed with white skin and violet eyes (like Canada's), becoming feverish and babbling about being cold. This happened right after the Haven fight, which just so happens to be when Canada's connection with Mantle's people was severed. Ilia was originally from Mantle but now sees Menagerie as her home because of the Belladonnas. ''Is this what happens when people lose their personification?'' If so, it puts England's intentions for Vale [[WhatTheHellHero in a much darker light]].]]
* Fridge Tearjerker: [[spoiler: Prussia names his weapon Rapunzel. Rapunzel is one of the fairy tales he reads to a sick HRE in canon. It is not yet confirmed he is thinking of HRE but Germany sees tears in Prussia's eyes when he asks why Prussia named his weapon after a "fairy tale princess".]]
** [[spoiler: WordOfGod says America ''must'' touch technology to manipulate tech with his Semblance. In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' America is trying to extend the range of his Semblance so he doesn't have to touch tech and intends to use that to escape Polendina. Unless [[LyingCreator the author is lying]], his efforts [[AllForNothing are]] [[ForegoneConclusion futile]].]]

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** [[spoiler:Ilia got became badly ill. She collapsed with white skin and violet eyes (like Canada's), becoming feverish and babbling about being cold. This happened right after the Haven fight, which just so happens to be when Canada's connection with Mantle's people was severed. Ilia was originally from Mantle but now sees Menagerie as her home because of the Belladonnas. ''Is this what happens when people lose their personification?'' If so, it puts England's intentions for Vale [[WhatTheHellHero in a much darker light]].]]
* Fridge Tearjerker: [[spoiler: Prussia names his weapon Rapunzel. Rapunzel is one of the fairy tales he reads to a sick HRE in canon. It is not yet confirmed he is thinking of HRE but Germany sees tears in Prussia's eyes when he asks why Prussia named his weapon after a "fairy tale princess".]]
** [[spoiler: WordOfGod says America ''must'' touch technology to manipulate tech with his Semblance. In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' America is trying to extend the range of his Semblance so he doesn't have to touch tech and intends to use that to escape Polendina. Unless [[LyingCreator the author is lying]], his efforts [[AllForNothing are]] [[ForegoneConclusion futile]].
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* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel ValeÂ’s people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]
* FanNickname: Ozpinati for OzpinÂ’s group.

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* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel ValeÂ’s Vale's people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]
* FanNickname: Ozpinati for OzpinÂ’s Ozpin's group.

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* CatharsisFactor: After all his lies and withholding of the truth, [[spoiler:seeing Yang punch Qrow in the face and floor him]] is satisfying to read.



** [[spoiler: The guards Polendina hired are ex-soldiers fired from the Atlas lab. They were likely fired because America and Canada escaped. America is completely at his captors' mercy. Who's to say the soldiers won't hold a grudge and [[DisproportionateRetribution act on it]]...]]

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** [[spoiler: The guards Polendina hired are ex-soldiers fired from the Atlas lab. They were likely fired because America and Canada escaped. America is completely at his captors' mercy. Who's to say the soldiers won't hold a grudge and [[DisproportionateRetribution act on it]]...it]]?]]
** [[spoiler:Ilia got badly ill. She collapsed with white skin and violet eyes (like Canada's), becoming feverish and babbling about being cold. This happened right after the Haven fight, which just so happens to be when Canada's connection with Mantle's people was severed. Ilia was originally from Mantle but now sees Menagerie as her home because of the Belladonnas. ''Is this what happens when people lose their personification?'' If so, it puts England's intentions for Vale [[WhatTheHellHero in a much darker light]].]]
* Fridge Tearjerker: [[spoiler: Prussia names his weapon Rapunzel. Rapunzel is one of the fairy tales he reads to a sick HRE in canon. It is not yet confirmed he is thinking of HRE but Germany sees tears in Prussia's eyes when he asks why Prussia named his weapon after a "fairy tale princess".]]
** [[spoiler: WordOfGod says America ''must'' touch technology to manipulate tech with his Semblance. In ''The Atrocities of Atlas'' America is trying to extend the range of his Semblance so he doesn't have to touch tech and intends to use that to escape Polendina. Unless [[LyingCreator the author is lying]], his efforts [[AllForNothing are]] [[ForegoneConclusion futile]].
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* SignatureScene: [[spoiler: The moment Yang attacks "Neo" and shoots "her" in the abdomen. It turns out Yang has been [[DeliriousMisidentification assaulting Alfred the whole time]]. ]]

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** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] bigot who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through [[{{Understatement}} hell]] and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]]
* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel Vale’s people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]
* FanNickname: Ozpinati for Ozpin’s group.

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** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] bigot hypocrite who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through [[{{Understatement}} hell]] and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]]
* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel Vale’s ValeÂ’s people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]
* FanNickname: Ozpinati for Ozpin’s OzpinÂ’s group.



** [[spoiler: The guards Polendina hired are ex-soldiers fired from the Atlas lab. They were likely fired because America and Canada escaped. America is completely at his captors' mercy. Who's to say the soldiers won't hold a grudge and [[DisproportionateRetribution act on it]]...]]



*** Then he is [[spoiler:abducted by Atlas and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''.]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.

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*** [[spoiler:His abductors chain him to a table with a SlaveCollar around his neck
and let expect him to bring his robotic friend Penny back from the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He dead, despite the impossibility of that.]] Even after all of that, he never stops fighting.

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** Is England a well-meaning if [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar-ish]] older brother who only wants what is best for America and will go to admirable and understandable lengths to keep him safe? Or is he a [[spoiler: ManipulativeBastard, JerkAss, and [[FantasticRacism anti-Remnant]] bigot who wants to destroy ''anything'' to do with Vale, regardless of what America wants and how many innocents get hurt? One the one hand, Remnant put his family through [[{{Understatement}} hell]] and his anger is {{Justified}}. On the other, if England succeeded in performing the ritual, Ruby, Yang, and all the people of Vale [[LossOfIdentity would have suffered from the loss of their personification]].]]



* FridgeHorror: It is implied America [[spoiler:is willing to endure physical and verbal abuse if it makes his friends and family willing to keep him around. His sense of self-worth is so low that rather than fight back against insults and violence [[DomesticAbuse perpetrated by a loved one]], he braces himself and will let the aggressors do what they want. He also often blames himself when things go wrong. It would be easy for certain types of people to take advantage of that mentality...]]



** [[spoiler:Chapter twenty-six of ''The Depths of Deception''.]] [[{{HSQ}} Holy]] [[PrecisionFStrike shit.]]



*** He is also [[spoiler:secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move.]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.

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*** He is also [[spoiler:secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move.]]
*** [[spoiler:England attempts to trick him into severing his connection with Vale's people, revealing England ''never'' accepted that part of America.]]
*** Then he is [[spoiler:abducted by Atlas and taken back to Atlas. ''Again''.
]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.



*** [[spoiler:Then she learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem.]] Still, she keeps her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.

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*** [[spoiler:Then she [[spoiler:She learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem.]]
*** [[spoiler:Her team arrives far too late and lose the Relic of Knowledge. She can only sit in the empty Vault with Mistral's body and cry.
]] Still, she keeps her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.



*** [[spoiler: She suffers from nightmares about [[AccidentalMurder Penny's death]] and America's [[DeathOfPersonality situation]], revealing she feels responsible for both.]]
*** [[spoiler: She is terrified of her own Semblance because of what happened to Penny.]]



*** [[spoiler: He nearly dies when a mine under Mantle collapses. Luckily, England was able to save him.]]



* RewatchBonus: There's foreshadowing galore for [[spoiler: the existence of Remnant nation-tans, America being Vale, Canada being Mantle, Ironwood's involvement, England's arrival on Remnant, Canada's Semblance, America's Semblance, and even Pyrrha's [[SparedByTheAdaptation survival]].]]

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* RewatchBonus: There's foreshadowing galore for [[spoiler: the existence of Remnant nation-tans, America being Vale, Canada being Mantle, Ironwood's involvement, England's arrival on Remnant, Canada's Semblance, America's Semblance, Adam's identity as Menagerie, and even Pyrrha's [[SparedByTheAdaptation survival]].]]
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*** [[spoiler:Yang attacks and shoots him while she is under the influence of Emerald's Semblance, believing he is Neo.]]

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*** [[spoiler:England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale.]]
*** [[spoiler: He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab.]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.

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*** [[spoiler:England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to the amnesiac America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale.]]
*** [[spoiler: He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab.]]
*** He is also [[spoiler:secretly taken by a scientist and had his liver removed for study, all while he was conscious, aware, and unable to move.
]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.


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** Canada:
*** He was [[spoiler:abducted and experimented on]] along with America.
*** He [[spoiler:accidentally causes his brother to get amnesia by killing Cinder.]]
*** [[spoiler:His Semblance allows him to [[BadPowersGoodPeople erase people's memories]] and he accidentally uses it on France.]]
*** [[spoiler:Mantle's crumbling state is slowly killing him.]]
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
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*** [[spoiler:And he remembers England [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]].]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.

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*** [[spoiler:And he [[spoiler:He remembers England [[BigBrotherWorship Eng]][[BrokenPedestal land]] [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]].]]
*** [[spoiler:England often has a [[AngerBornOfWorry harsh, confrontational attitude]] while talking to America, making him believe his older brother hates and blames him for becoming Vale.]]
*** [[spoiler: He was vivisected by scientists at the Atlas lab.
]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only “apologizes” to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]]
* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale’s Aura, meaning she can feel Vale’s people’s terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only “apologizes” "apologizes" to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]]
* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale’s Vale's Aura, meaning she can feel Vale’s people’s people's terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]



*** [[spoiler:He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible “choice”]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth.]]
*** [[spoiler:He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above “choice”.]]

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*** [[spoiler:He is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible “choice”]] "choice"]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth.]]
*** [[spoiler:He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above “choice”."choice".]]



*** [[spoiler:She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder’s plans.]]
*** [[spoiler:At the end of ''The Shattered Soul'', more than half of her friends "died" on their mission to Mistral.]]

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*** [[spoiler:She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder’s Cinder's plans.]]
*** [[spoiler:At the end of ''The Shattered Soul'', more [[spoiler: More than half of her friends "died" "die" on their mission to Mistral.]]



* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood's actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights’ massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line.]]
* RewatchBonus: There’s foreshadowing galore for [[spoiler: the existence of Remnant nation-tans, America being Vale, Canada being Mantle, Ironwood’s involvement, England’s arrival on Remnant, Canada’s Semblance, and even Pyrrha’s [[SparedByTheAdaptation survival]].]]

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** Pyrrha:
*** [[spoiler:She accidentally kills Penny, her friend.]]
*** [[spoiler:Because of Penny's death, people fear her, hate her, or [[TheScapegoat blame her for the fall of Beacon]].]]
*** [[spoiler:She's taken from her world and everyone she loves and dropped into a new, unfamiliar one.]]
*** [[spoiler:She finds out the people she has been fighting for (Ozpin and Ironwood) lied to her and have done terrible things she cannot justify, making her question her entire purpose in life.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood's actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights’ Knights' massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line.]]
* RewatchBonus: There’s There's foreshadowing galore for [[spoiler: the existence of Remnant nation-tans, America being Vale, Canada being Mantle, Ironwood’s Ironwood's involvement, England’s England's arrival on Remnant, Canada’s Canada's Semblance, America's Semblance, and even Pyrrha’s Pyrrha's [[SparedByTheAdaptation survival]].]]

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*** [[spoiler:He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] and loses his memories because of the above “choice”.]]

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*** [[spoiler:He is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] nonstop for ''weeks'' and loses his memories because of the above “choice”.]]



*** [[spoiler:At the end of ''The Shattered Soul'', more than half of her friends “died” on their mission to Mistral.]] Still, she keeps on going.
* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood’s actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights’ massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line.]]

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*** [[spoiler:At the end of ''The Shattered Soul'', more than half of her friends “died” "died" on their mission to Mistral.]]
*** [[spoiler:Then she learns RNJR have to find and protect Neo/Mistral (the enemy who took her eye) from Salem.
]] Still, she keeps on going.
her positive outlook and keeps moving forward.
* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood’s Ironwood's actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights’ massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed the line.]]
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*** [[spoiler:He was forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible “choice”]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth.]]
*** [[spoiler:He was [[MindRape Mind Raped]] and lost his memories because of the above “choice”.]]
*** [[spoiler:[[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betrayed him and left him to die.]]
*** [[spoiler:Raven found him and slashed his throat when he refused to join her. He only survived because of his HealingFactor.]]
*** [[spoiler:He was captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage.]]
*** [[spoiler:And he remembered England [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]].]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.

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*** [[spoiler:He was is forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible “choice”]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his people back on Earth.]]
*** [[spoiler:He was is [[MindRape Mind Raped]] and lost loses his memories because of the above “choice”.]]
*** [[spoiler:[[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury]] betrayed betray him and left leave him to die.]]
*** [[spoiler:Raven found finds him and slashed slashes his throat when he refused refuses to join her. He only survived survives because of his HealingFactor.]]
*** [[spoiler:He was is captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage.]]
*** [[spoiler:And he remembered remembers England [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]].]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.



*** [[spoiler:She lost an eye during the Battle of Beacon.]]

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*** [[spoiler:She lost loses an eye during the Battle of Beacon.]]
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*** [[spoiler:[[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury.]] betrayed him and left him to die.]]

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*** [[spoiler:[[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury.]] Mercury]] betrayed him and left him to die.]]



*** [[spoiler:At the end of The Shattered Soul, more than half of her friends “died” on their mission to Mistral.]] Still, she keeps on going.

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*** [[spoiler:At the end of The ''The Shattered Soul, Soul'', more than half of her friends “died” on their mission to Mistral.]] Still, she keeps on going.
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* HolyShitQuotient: Quite a few moments, particularly in [[spoiler:chapters seven and sixteen of Weight of the World. Chapter seven reveals Remnant has nation-tans (one of whom is Amber) and chapter sixteen has Yang unknowingly attack America and get arrested.]]

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* HolyShitQuotient: Quite a few moments, particularly in [[spoiler:chapters seven and sixteen of Weight ''Weight of the World.World''. Chapter seven reveals Remnant has nation-tans (one of whom is Amber) and chapter sixteen has Yang unknowingly attack America and get arrested.]]



*** [[spoiler:He was forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible “choice”]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his world.]]

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*** [[spoiler:He was forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible “choice”]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his world.people back on Earth.]]



* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood’s actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights’ massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed it.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood’s actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights’ massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed it.the line.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is [[spoiler:Ironwood]] remorseful for [[spoiler:what he and Atlas did to America and Canada?]] Or does [[spoiler:he see their abduction and [[PlayingWithSyringes torment]] as a NecessaryEvil and only “apologizes” to try to get America to agree to fully become Vale?]]
* CompleteMonster: Cinder. She has her [[{{Sadist}} canon personality]] with the added bonus of [[spoiler:possessing part of Vale’s Aura, meaning she can feel Vale’s people’s terror and fear. She finds it amusing.]]
* FanNickname: Ozpinati for Ozpin’s group.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
--> [[spoiler:'''Yang:''' ''(To Alfred)'' Continue that sentence and I'll punch you in the gut so hard you won't wake up until the end of the Vytal Festival.]]
* HolyShitQuotient: Quite a few moments, particularly in [[spoiler:chapters seven and sixteen of Weight of the World. Chapter seven reveals Remnant has nation-tans (one of whom is Amber) and chapter sixteen has Yang unknowingly attack America and get arrested.]]
* IronWoobie:
** America:
*** [[spoiler:He was abducted and experimented on by Atlas.]]
*** [[spoiler:He was forced to make an [[SadisticChoice impossible “choice”]] that would not only [[DeathOfPersonality hurt him]] but possibly his world.]]
*** [[spoiler:He was [[MindRape Mind Raped]] and lost his memories because of the above “choice”.]]
*** [[spoiler:[[FalseFriend Neo, Roman, and Mercury.]] betrayed him and left him to die.]]
*** [[spoiler:Raven found him and slashed his throat when he refused to join her. He only survived because of his HealingFactor.]]
***[[spoiler:He was captured by Tyrian and Emerald and used as a hostage.]]
*** [[spoiler:And he remembered England [[NotWhatItLooksLike pointing a gun at him]].]] Does he give up and let the world beat him? [[{{Determinator}} No]]. He never stops fighting.
** Ruby:
*** [[spoiler:She lost an eye during the Battle of Beacon.]]
*** [[spoiler:She later finds out Emerald is a FalseFriend who willingly took part in Cinder’s plans.]]
*** [[spoiler:At the end of The Shattered Soul, more than half of her friends “died” on their mission to Mistral.]] Still, she keeps on going.
* MoralEventHorizon: Many reviewers see [[spoiler:Atlas and Ironwood’s actions concerning America and Canada as this. If not that, then the Atlesian Knights’ massacre of the people of Westwind is when they crossed it.]]
*RewatchBonus: There’s foreshadowing galore for [[spoiler: the existence of Remnant nation-tans, America being Vale, Canada being Mantle, Ironwood’s involvement, England’s arrival on Remnant, Canada’s Semblance, and even Pyrrha’s [[SparedByTheAdaptation survival]].]]

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