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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, reflecting that the Visitors' are a ReptilianConspiracy of alien [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazis]].

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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, reflecting that the Visitors' Visitors are a ReptilianConspiracy of alien [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazis]].
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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, reflecting the Visitors' nature as [[TheReptilians reptilian alien]] [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazis]].

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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, reflecting that the Visitors' nature as [[TheReptilians reptilian alien]] are a ReptilianConspiracy of alien [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazis]].
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** ''The Second Generation'', by Kenneth Johnson: The [[BigBad Leader]], [[TheGenerallissimo military dictator]] of the Visitors, won her place at the head of the Visitors via her charisma, but eventually simply resorted to outright murder and jingoism to keep control. [[GalacticConqueror Initiating brutal intergalactic conquests]], the Leader approved Diana's cruel schemes and infiltration of Earth with intent to [[KillAllHumans genocide humanity]] and [[ToServeMan turn them into food]] for the Visitors. Arriving on Earth herself, she has one young volunteer to the Visitors murder an alien Zedti POW before trying to use humankind as shields against the Zedti fleet before wiping them out as well.

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** ''The Second Generation'', by Kenneth Johnson: The [[BigBad Leader]], [[TheGenerallissimo [[TheGeneralissimo military dictator]] of the Visitors, won her place at the head of the Visitors via her charisma, but eventually simply resorted to outright murder and jingoism to keep control. [[GalacticConqueror Initiating brutal intergalactic conquests]], the Leader approved Diana's cruel schemes and infiltration of Earth with intent to [[KillAllHumans genocide humanity]] and [[ToServeMan turn them into food]] for the Visitors. Arriving on Earth herself, she has one young volunteer to the Visitors murder an alien Zedti POW before trying to use humankind as shields against the Zedti fleet before wiping them out as well.

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** ''The Second Generation'', by Kenneth Johnson: The [[BigBad Leader]], military dictator of the Visitors, won her place at the head of the Visitors via her charisma, but eventually simply resorted to outright murder and jingoism to keep control. [[GalacticConqueror Initiating brutal intergalactic conquests]], the Leader approved Diana's cruel schemes and infiltration of Earth with intent to genocide humanity and [[ToServeMan turn them into food]] for the Visitors. Arriving on Earth herself, she has one young volunteer to the Visitors murder an alien Zedti POW before trying to use humankind as shields against the Zedti fleet before wiping them out as well.

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** ''The Second Generation'', by Kenneth Johnson: The [[BigBad Leader]], [[TheGenerallissimo military dictator dictator]] of the Visitors, won her place at the head of the Visitors via her charisma, but eventually simply resorted to outright murder and jingoism to keep control. [[GalacticConqueror Initiating brutal intergalactic conquests]], the Leader approved Diana's cruel schemes and infiltration of Earth with intent to [[KillAllHumans genocide humanity humanity]] and [[ToServeMan turn them into food]] for the Visitors. Arriving on Earth herself, she has one young volunteer to the Visitors murder an alien Zedti POW before trying to use humankind as shields against the Zedti fleet before wiping them out as well.

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* CompleteMonster: [[TheBaroness Diana]] is a remorseless commander of the Visitor invasion forces and by far the worst one seen. During the first occupation she planned the entire operation and was [[DragonInChief the real powerholder in the fleet]]. She engineered the genocide of the human race and invented both the process of [[ToServeMan harvesting humans for food]] and the [[MindRape mind-raping]] "conversion procedure". She personally oversees these [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]], during which the victim is haunted with vivid nightmares until they've either been {{brainwashed}} into obedience or rendered a vegetable, simply [[ForTheEvulz because she enjoys them]]. She performs lethal experiments on captured prisoners, [[KlingonPromotion kills her own superiors to take their place]] and orders Brian to implant Robin with his alien fetus as an experiment, leaving her a traumatized wreck. As the Visitor fleet is leaving, she goes ahead with trying to irradiate the Earth with an atomic bomb even after they've already lost and despite [[EvenEvilHasStandards John's disgust with her pettiness]]. After being captured for war crimes, she escapes back to the fleet and launches a second, much more destructive invasion of Earth.

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[[TheBaroness Diana]] is a remorseless commander the former lover of the Visitor invasion forces Visitors' militaristic Leader and by far the worst one seen. During the first occupation she planned the entire operation and was [[DragonInChief the real powerholder power in the fleet]]. She engineered invasion force]]. Diana is the genocide architect of the human race and invented both the process of plot [[ToServeMan harvesting to harvest humans for food]] and after draining Earth's water, dealing with any potential threats via the [[MindRape mind-raping]] "conversion procedure". She horrific "[[MindRape conversion procedure]]" where she personally oversees these [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]], tortures, during which the victim is haunted with vivid nightmares until they've either been {{brainwashed}} into obedience or rendered a vegetable, simply [[ForTheEvulz because she enjoys them]]. She performs lethal vegetable. Diana delights in performing experiments on captured her prisoners, [[KlingonPromotion kills organizing the discrediting or murder of any who may pose a threat to the Visitors while performing further painful brainwashing procedures. When cornered, Diana shows no compunction murdering her own superiors people to take their place]] escape and orders Brian to implant Robin with his alien fetus as an experiment, leaving survive.
**''The Second Generation'', by Kenneth Johnson: The [[BigBad Leader]], military dictator of the Visitors, won
her a traumatized wreck. As place at the Visitor fleet is leaving, she goes ahead with trying to irradiate head of the Visitors via her charisma, but eventually simply resorted to outright murder and jingoism to keep control. [[GalacticConqueror Initiating brutal intergalactic conquests]], the Leader approved Diana's cruel schemes and infiltration of Earth with an atomic bomb even after they've already lost intent to genocide humanity and despite [[EvenEvilHasStandards John's disgust with her pettiness]]. After being captured [[ToServeMan turn them into food]] for war crimes, the Visitors. Arriving on Earth herself, she escapes back has one young volunteer to the Visitors murder an alien Zedti POW before trying to use humankind as shields against the Zedti fleet and launches a second, much more destructive invasion of Earth.before wiping them out as well.
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** The episode ''The Sanction'' was obviously inspired by Film/TheKarateKid1984 (which was just hitting theaters as it was being written) with Klaus being a stand-in for Kreese. The plot of Film/TheKarateKidPartIII (released five years later) bears considerable resemblance to this episode.

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** The episode ''The Sanction'' "The Sanction" was obviously inspired by Film/TheKarateKid1984 ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'' (which was just hitting theaters as it was being written) with Klaus being a stand-in for Kreese. The plot of Film/TheKarateKidPartIII ''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII'' (released five years later) bears considerable resemblance to this episode.
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** ANaziByAnyOtherName: The Visitors plan to wipe out humanity, albeit by turning most of them into food and using a minority for slave labor.

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** ANaziByAnyOtherName: The Visitors Visitors' plan to wipe out humanity, albeit by turning most of them into food and using a minority for slave labor.
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** WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: the Visitors' logo is [[NoSwastikas just two strokes away from being a swastika]]. Also there is the Nazi-like propaganda that they employ against scientists.

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** WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: the The Visitors' logo is [[NoSwastikas just two strokes away from being a swastika]]. Also there is the Nazi-like propaganda that they employ against scientists.
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** ANaziByAnyOtherName
** PuttingOnTheReich

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** ANaziByAnyOtherName
ANaziByAnyOtherName: The Visitors plan to wipe out humanity, albeit by turning most of them into food and using a minority for slave labor.
** PuttingOnTheReichPuttingOnTheReich: The Visitors dress in fascist-inspired uniforms using red and black as dominant colors.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Daniel Bernstein steadily becomes worse as [[LesCollaborateurs he joins the visitors]], using his newfound power for petty acts of cruelty and to threaten other people to get what he wants. He eventually kills an old woman who was spying for the resistance in the Visitor Headquarters, despite her pleas to him to let her go and how she's known him since he was a kid. The moment is portrayed as the point of no return for him, [[spoiler:and the resistance sets him up to be killed when they raid his house later on.]]
* {{Narm}}: The reptile baby. It's meant to be repulsive and terrifying, but the puppet is so awkward and silly-looking you can't help but laugh at it.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Daniel Bernstein steadily becomes worse as [[LesCollaborateurs he joins the visitors]], using his newfound power for petty acts of cruelty and to threaten other people to get what he wants. He eventually kills an old woman who was spying for the resistance in the Visitor Headquarters, despite her pleas to him to let her go and how she's known him since he was a kid. The moment kid; that action is portrayed as the point of no return for him, [[spoiler:and the resistance sets him up to be killed when they raid his house later on.]]
* {{Narm}}: The reptile baby. It's meant to be repulsive and terrifying, but the puppet is so awkward and silly-looking you can't help but laugh at it.laugh.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A prominent V propaganda poster has the tagline, "Friendship is Universal". V was originally broadcast on NBC. In 2004, NBC was merged with Universal entertainment. Three years later, NBC launched an environmental campaign, "[[http://www.greenisuniversal.com/ Green is Universal]]."

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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A prominent V propaganda poster has the tagline, "Friendship is Universal". V was originally broadcast on NBC. In 2004, NBC was merged with Universal entertainment. Three years later, NBC launched an environmental campaign, "[[http://www.greenisuniversal.com/ Green is Universal]]." "
** The episode ''The Sanction'' was obviously inspired by Film/TheKarateKid1984 (which was just hitting theaters as it was being written) with Klaus being a stand-in for Kreese. The plot of Film/TheKarateKidPartIII (released five years later) bears considerable resemblance to this episode.
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* SpiritualAdaptation: Of Creator/SinclairLewis' ''Literature/ItCantHappenHere''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen original idea]] for the show, titled ''Storm Warnings'', lacked the sci-fi elements and would've been an even more overt adaptation, the villains being a homegrown fascist movement. The producers thought it would be more resonant if it were about a [[InvadedStatesOfAmerica Soviet conquest of America]] (which later became the plot of another miniseries, ''Series/{{Amerika}}''), which Kenneth Johnson thought would defeat the entire point, so he retooled the villains into alien invaders, with heavy focus given to their [[LesCollaborateurs human collaborators]].

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* TheWoobie: Willie was a minor part of the original miniseries and ''The Final Battle'', but was so popular with fans they made him a regular on the subsequent television series. He's one of the first of the Visitors to join the Resistance, he speaks broken English ("English is not well to me. I learned Arabic for going there.") and [[spoiler: at the end of ''Final Battle'' his human girlfriend dies in his arms after she takes a laser gun blast in the chest to save him]]. He's got a perpetual hangdog look and in the series he wears a bow tie!

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Willie was a minor part of the original miniseries and ''The Final Battle'', but was so popular with fans they made him a regular on the subsequent television series. He's one of the first of the Visitors to join the Resistance, he speaks broken English ("English is not well to me. I learned Arabic for going there.") and [[spoiler: at the end of ''Final Battle'' his human girlfriend dies in his arms after she takes a laser gun blast in the chest to save him]]. He's got a perpetual hangdog look and in the series he wears a bow tie!
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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, reflecting the Visitors' Nazi-esque character.
** Both of the regular series' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgndDtqlzU0 main]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sWCZmhh6wI themes]] by Dennis [=McCarthy=].

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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, reflecting the Visitors' Nazi-esque character.
nature as [[TheReptilians reptilian alien]] [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazis]].
** Both of the regular series' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgndDtqlzU0 main]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sWCZmhh6wI themes]] by Dennis [=McCarthy=]. Both feature minor-key synthesizers (representing the Visitors) contrasted with major-key brass instruments (representing the resistance) to epic effect.
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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, echoing the Visitors' Nazi-esque character.

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** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, echoing reflecting the Visitors' Nazi-esque character.

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** The miniseries' moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4aJsw-cAl0 main theme]] by Joe Harnell sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, echoing the Visitors' Nazi-esque character.

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** The miniseries' moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4aJsw-cAl0 com/watch?v=m0AyALoThE8 main theme]] by Joe Harnell Harnell, for which the composer was nominated an Emmy Award.
** The moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI main theme]] from ''The Final Battle'' by Barry De Vorzon
sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, echoing the Visitors' Nazi-esque character.
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** The regular series' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgndDtqlzU0 main theme]] by Dennis [=McCarthy=]. Try getting it out of your head. You can't.

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** The Both of the regular series' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgndDtqlzU0 main theme]] main]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sWCZmhh6wI themes]] by Dennis [=McCarthy=]. Try getting it out of your head. You can't.[=McCarthy=].
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* HateSink: You will grow to truly loath Daniel Bernstein, a despicable [[TheQuisling Quisling]] and petty bully whom you will hate with a burning fury.
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** The miniseries' moody [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4aJsw-cAl0 main theme]] by Joe Harnell sounds both alien and fascistic and the same time, echoing the Visitors' Nazi-esque character.
** The regular series' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgndDtqlzU0 main theme]] by Dennis [=McCarthy=]. Try getting it out of your head. You can't.
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* EvilIsSexy: Jane Badler as Diana makes space fascism look hot, though it's played up [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/1f/8c/3e1f8c519379c9991ad049eb7df4c8c2.jpg in advertising]] more than the actual show. Plus, she's actually a lizard wearing human skin.

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* EvilIsSexy: Jane Badler as Diana [[TheBaroness Diana]] makes space fascism look hot, though it's played up [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/1f/8c/3e1f8c519379c9991ad049eb7df4c8c2.jpg in advertising]] more than the actual show. Plus, she's actually a lizard wearing human skin.
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* EvilIsSexy: Diana.

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* EvilIsSexy: Diana.Jane Badler as Diana makes space fascism look hot, though it's played up [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/1f/8c/3e1f8c519379c9991ad049eb7df4c8c2.jpg in advertising]] more than the actual show. Plus, she's actually a lizard wearing human skin.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A prominent V propaganda poster has the tagline, "Friendship is Universal". V was originally broadcast on NBC. In 2004, NBC was merged with Universal entertainment. Three years later, NBC launched an environmental campaign, "[[http://www.greenisuniversal.com/ Green is Universal]]."
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* CompleteMonster: Diana is a remorseless commander of the Visitor invasion forces and by far the worst one seen. During the first occupation she planned the entire operation and was [[DragonInChief the real powerholder in the fleet]]. She engineered the genocide of the human race and invented both the process of [[ToServeMan harvesting humans for food]] and the [[MindRape mind-raping]] "conversion procedure". She personally oversees these [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]], during which the victim is haunted with vivid nightmares until they've either been {{brainwashed}} into obedience or rendered a vegetable, simply [[ForTheEvulz because she enjoys them]]. She performs lethal experiments on captured prisoners, [[KlingonPromotion kills her own superiors to take their place]] and orders Brian to implant Robin with his alien fetus as an experiment, leaving her a traumatized wreck. As the Visitor fleet is leaving, she goes ahead with trying to irradiate the Earth with an atomic bomb even after they've already lost and despite [[EvenEvilHasStandards John's disgust with her pettiness]]. After being captured for war crimes, she escapes back to the fleet and launches a second, much more destructive invasion of Earth.

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* CompleteMonster: Diana [[TheBaroness Diana]] is a remorseless commander of the Visitor invasion forces and by far the worst one seen. During the first occupation she planned the entire operation and was [[DragonInChief the real powerholder in the fleet]]. She engineered the genocide of the human race and invented both the process of [[ToServeMan harvesting humans for food]] and the [[MindRape mind-raping]] "conversion procedure". She personally oversees these [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]], during which the victim is haunted with vivid nightmares until they've either been {{brainwashed}} into obedience or rendered a vegetable, simply [[ForTheEvulz because she enjoys them]]. She performs lethal experiments on captured prisoners, [[KlingonPromotion kills her own superiors to take their place]] and orders Brian to implant Robin with his alien fetus as an experiment, leaving her a traumatized wreck. As the Visitor fleet is leaving, she goes ahead with trying to irradiate the Earth with an atomic bomb even after they've already lost and despite [[EvenEvilHasStandards John's disgust with her pettiness]]. After being captured for war crimes, she escapes back to the fleet and launches a second, much more destructive invasion of Earth.
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** [[spoiler: Elizabeth's scale-skinned twin ''could'' have been this, if the puppet had worked better and not made his few appearances look so silly. Born with a deadly infection to the sound of his mother's horrified screams, never given a name, and with no one willing to care for or even ''touch'' him except Willie: whatever his looks, the poor kid was screwed from the very start.]]
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* FridgeHorror: About Julie's past. During her brainwashing in the prisoner mothership, they use and amp up a memory from her past to begin the process. They say it happened when she was very young, it happened in an abandoned building, and it is her running away from what sounds like very heavy male breathing. Which then makes the whole MindRape thing rather more literal, even if not done directly.
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* {{Narm}}: The reptile baby. It's meant to be repulsive and terrifying, but the puppet is so awkward and silly-looking you can't help but laugh at it.
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* HateSink: You will grow to truly loath Daniel Bernstein, a despicable [[TheQuizling Quizling]] and petty bully whom you will hate with a burning fury.

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* HateSink: You will grow to truly loath Daniel Bernstein, a despicable [[TheQuizling Quizling]] [[TheQuisling Quisling]] and petty bully whom you will hate with a burning fury.
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* HateSink: You will grow to truly loath Daniel Bernstein, a despicable [[TheQuizling Quizling]] and petty bully whom you will hate with a burning fury.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Nazi allegories, including:
** ANaziByAnyOtherName
** PuttingOnTheReich
** WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: the Visitors' logo is [[NoSwastikas just two strokes away from being a swastika]]. Also there is the Nazi-like propaganda that they employ against scientists.
* AssPull: At the end of ''V: The Final Battle'' when the mothership is set to explode resulting in an EarthShatteringKaboom, Elizabeth suddenly uses some sort of psychic/magic powers to stop the nuclear meltdown.
* CompleteMonster: Diana is a remorseless commander of the Visitor invasion forces and by far the worst one seen. During the first occupation she planned the entire operation and was [[DragonInChief the real powerholder in the fleet]]. She engineered the genocide of the human race and invented both the process of [[ToServeMan harvesting humans for food]] and the [[MindRape mind-raping]] "conversion procedure". She personally oversees these [[ColdBloodedTorture tortures]], during which the victim is haunted with vivid nightmares until they've either been {{brainwashed}} into obedience or rendered a vegetable, simply [[ForTheEvulz because she enjoys them]]. She performs lethal experiments on captured prisoners, [[KlingonPromotion kills her own superiors to take their place]] and orders Brian to implant Robin with his alien fetus as an experiment, leaving her a traumatized wreck. As the Visitor fleet is leaving, she goes ahead with trying to irradiate the Earth with an atomic bomb even after they've already lost and despite [[EvenEvilHasStandards John's disgust with her pettiness]]. After being captured for war crimes, she escapes back to the fleet and launches a second, much more destructive invasion of Earth.
* EvilIsSexy: Diana.
* FridgeHorror: About Julie's past. During her brainwashing in the prisoner mothership, they use and amp up a memory from her past to begin the process. They say it happened when she was very young, it happened in an abandoned building, and it is her running away from what sounds like very heavy male breathing. Which then makes the whole MindRape thing rather more literal, even if not done directly.
* FoeYay: Diana and Mike Donovan. Especially seeing as they share a kiss when Diana uses hologram technology to pretend to be the mother of his son.
* MoralEventHorizon: Daniel Bernstein steadily becomes worse as [[LesCollaborateurs he joins the visitors]], using his newfound power for petty acts of cruelty and to threaten other people to get what he wants. He eventually kills an old woman who was spying for the resistance in the Visitor Headquarters, despite her pleas to him to let her go and how she's known him since he was a kid. The moment is portrayed as the point of no return for him, [[spoiler:and the resistance sets him up to be killed when they raid his house later on.]]
* TheWoobie: Willie was a minor part of the original miniseries and ''The Final Battle'', but was so popular with fans they made him a regular on the subsequent television series. He's one of the first of the Visitors to join the Resistance, he speaks broken English ("English is not well to me. I learned Arabic for going there.") and [[spoiler: at the end of ''Final Battle'' his human girlfriend dies in his arms after she takes a laser gun blast in the chest to save him]]. He's got a perpetual hangdog look and in the series he wears a bow tie!
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