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* MemeticMutation: Gabriel's follow-up to this album (first announced in 2002 and tentatively titled ''I/O'') has become the new ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' among fans, with many making all sorts of jokes about [[DevelopmentHell how long it'll be before the album finally comes out]].

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* MemeticMutation: ''i/o'', Gabriel's follow-up to this album (first announced in 2002 and tentatively titled ''I/O'') album, has become the new ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' among fans, with many making all sorts of jokes about [[DevelopmentHell how long it'll be before the album finally comes out]].
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* SpiritualSuccessor: To ''Music/{{Melt}}'' and ''Music/{{Security}}'' at the same time, combining both albums' styles and trading out the heavy Fairlight CMI usage for even more versatile digital audio workstations.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: To ''Music/{{Melt}}'' and ''Music/{{Security}}'' at the same time, combining both albums' styles and trading out the heavy Fairlight CMI usage for even more versatile digital audio workstations.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While not as frequently picked as ''Music/{{Melt}}'' or ''[[Music/PeterGabriel1982 Security]]'', ''Up'' is another frequent pick for the choice of Gabriel's best album by fans who disagree with the consensus ranking of ''Music/{{So}}''.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While not as frequently picked as ''Music/{{Melt}}'' or ''[[Music/PeterGabriel1982 Security]]'', ''Music/{{Security}}'', ''Up'' is another frequent pick for the choice of Gabriel's best album by fans who disagree with the consensus ranking of ''Music/{{So}}''.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While not as frequently picked as ''Music/{{Melt}}'' or ''Music/{{Security}}'', ''Up'' is another frequent pick for the choice of Gabriel's best album by fans who disagree with the consensus ranking of ''Music/{{So}}''.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While not as frequently picked as ''Music/{{Melt}}'' or ''Music/{{Security}}'', ''[[Music/PeterGabriel1982 Security]]'', ''Up'' is another frequent pick for the choice of Gabriel's best album by fans who disagree with the consensus ranking of ''Music/{{So}}''.
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"Jerry Springer" came out in 1999; "The Barry Williams Show" came out in 2002. That's my mistake for not checking the point's veracity before I copied it over from the main Peter Gabriel YMMV page.


* HilariousInHindsight: "The Barry Williams Show" was written as a serious jab at exploitative daytime talk shows. Not long after that, Weird Al Yankovic would do something very similar, with a comedic overtone, with his "Jerry Springer" song parody.
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Just remembered that Peter Gabriel's Up, being released in 2002, is still too new for any temporal-based Values Dissonance points to apply to it.


* ValuesDissonance: "The Barry Williams Show" offhandedly mentions one of Williams' guests coming on to lament the fact that "[his] girl became a man." While this exploitative treatment of transgender people was commonplace all the way up to the early 2010's, by 2020 it would become much more heavily frowned upon by mainstream society; the language used in the song is also considered insulting by today's standards due to it implicitly denying a trans man's gender identity in favor of the gender he was assigned at birth. This is at least somewhat mitigated by the song [[VillainProtagonist being narrated by Williams himself]] and casting him as a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain, though it can still come off as tone deaf in hindsight.
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* GeniusBonus: The portions early in "Growing Up" about a series of dots and the significance of each group [[https://xokp.tumblr.com/post/139136339614/peter-gabriel-and-the-pythagorean-tetractys references]] the Pythagorean concept of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetractys tetractys]], said to represent the three dimensions of the physical universe.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While not as frequently picked as ''Music/{{Melt}}'' or ''Music/{{Security}}'', ''Up'' is another frequent pick for the choice of Gabriel's best album by fans who disagree with the consensus ranking of ''Music/{{So}}''.
* HilariousInHindsight: "The Barry Williams Show" was written as a serious jab at exploitative daytime talk shows. Not long after that, Weird Al Yankovic would do something very similar, with a comedic overtone, with his "Jerry Springer" song parody.
* MemeticMutation: Gabriel's follow-up to this album (first announced in 2002 and tentatively titled ''I/O'') has become the new ''[[Music/GunsNRoses Chinese Democracy]]'' among fans, with many making all sorts of jokes about [[DevelopmentHell how long it'll be before the album finally comes out]].
* NightmareFuel:
** "Darkness". HOLY SHIT. Starts with a simple, blippy rhythm intro and then out of NOWHERE comes this distorted, screeching howl, and the lyrics throughout don’t help anything. The entire song sounds like a twisted, bleak, industrial lullaby.
** The music video for "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAesGRwa_6k The Barry Williams Show]]" gets pretty creepy when the audience in a ''[[Series/TheJerrySpringerShow Jerry Springer]]''-esque show suddenly begin to bleed until the entire stage is literally ''flooded'' with their collected blood. To top it off, the actor portraying Barry Williams (Creator/ChristopherMcDonald) is left stranded on a raft in the middle of it all until falling in at the end.
* ValuesDissonance: "The Barry Williams Show" offhandedly mentions one of Williams' guests coming on to lament the fact that "[his] girl became a man." While this exploitative treatment of transgender people was commonplace all the way up to the early 2010's, by 2020 it would become much more heavily frowned upon by mainstream society; the language used in the song is also considered insulting by today's standards due to it implicitly denying a trans man's gender identity in favor of the gender he was assigned at birth. This is at least somewhat mitigated by the song [[VillainProtagonist being narrated by Williams himself]] and casting him as a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain, though it can still come off as tone deaf in hindsight.
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