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* VanillaProtagonist: Jamie is an ActionGirl FishOutOfTemporalWater out to stop the murder of her mother, and she carries the role well. Nonetheless, there can be a sense that she'd stand out a lot more if not for the colorful cast of supporting characters in two different periods like Lauren and Amelia (who both invent time machines in their teens), 2023 Pam (CrazyPrepared ActionMom), 1987 Pam (a GirlPosse ActionSurvivor who gets a lot of CharacterDevelopment and enters into an early romance with her future husband based on knowledge of their future relationship), future rock star Eddie, SmallNameBigEgo WellDoneSonGuy podcaster Chris and his LivingLegend IntrepidReporter father, {{Adorkable}} karate trainee Doug, MadeOfIron BigManOnCampus Blake, Lurch (a MisunderstoodLonerWithAHeartOfGold who recently lost a sibling), and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass stoner Kara.
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* VanillaProtagonist: Jamie is an ActionGirl FishOutOfTemporalWater out to stop the murder of her mother, and she carries the role well. Nonetheless, there can be a sense that she'd stand out a lot more if not for the colorful cast of supporting characters in two different periods like Lauren and Amelia (who both invent time machines in their teens), 2023 Pam (CrazyPrepared ActionMom), 1987 Pam (a GirlPosse ActionSurvivor who gets a lot of CharacterDevelopment and enters into an early romance with her future husband based on knowledge of their future relationship), future rock star Eddie, SmallNameBigEgo WellDoneSonGuy podcaster Chris and his LivingLegend IntrepidReporter father, {{Adorkable}} karate trainee Doug, MadeOfIron BigManOnCampus Blake, Lurch (a MisunderstoodLonerWithAHeartOfGold who recently lost a sibling), and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass stoner Kara.Kara.
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** [[spoiler: The blood the sheriff laughs off as "DMA" could have been put in an evidence locker and then properly tested years later, but before the present, when RevisitingTheColdCase.]]
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** Doug is a hall monitor who is into video games and karate, enjoys reciting LittleKnownFacts, tries to sneak into the popular party, and is said to have once locked braces with his girlfriend while they were kissing.
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** Doug is a hall monitor who is into video games and karate, enjoys reciting LittleKnownFacts, tries to sneak into the popular party, party with a chipper attitude, and is said to have once locked braces with his girlfriend while they were kissing.
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** The movie reveals halfway through that the changes in 1987 are altering the present day in real time causing a series of [[MandelaEffect Mandela Effects]]. This potentially interesting subplot mostly limits to a few scenes with Lauren and Chris discussing the time machine [[spoiler: and it mostly serves as a excuse to have the 2023 Chris in the climax]].
** The movie reveals halfway through that the changes in 1987 are altering the present day in real time causing a series of [[MandelaEffect Mandela Effects]]. This potentially interesting subplot mostly limits to a few scenes with Lauren and Chris discussing the time machine [[spoiler: and it mostly serves as a excuse to have the 2023 Chris in the climax]].
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** [[spoiler:Doug only makes one short cameo in the 2023 scenes when many fans would have been interested in seeing him react to the copycat he inadvertently inspired.]]
** [[spoiler:The film could have paid more attention to 1987 Chris and his UsedToBeASweetKid moments to make the reveal of his future crimes more shocking, as he barely appears in 1987 and prior to the reveal about Doug, there was no reason to assume that Chris couldn’t be the original killer all along in a TheDogWasTheMastermind way.]]
** [[spoiler:Having SympatheticMurderer Doug live long enough to meet his far worse time traveling copycat could have provided for a more chaotic and intense final battle and given 1987 Doug some moments of emotional range that he never gets onscreen.]]
** [[spoiler:Doug only makes one short cameo in the 2023 scenes when many fans would have been interested in seeing him react to the copycat he inadvertently inspired.]]
** [[spoiler:The film could have paid more attention to 1987 Chris and his UsedToBeASweetKid moments to make the reveal of his future crimes more shocking, as he barely appears in 1987 and prior to the reveal about Doug, there was no reason to assume that Chris couldn’t be the original killer all along in a TheDogWasTheMastermind way.]]
** [[spoiler:Having SympatheticMurderer Doug live long enough to meet his far worse time traveling copycat could have provided for a more chaotic and intense final battle and given 1987 Doug some moments of emotional range that he never gets onscreen.]]
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* VanillaProtagonist: Jamie is an ActionGirl FishOutOfTemporalWater out to stop the murder of her mother, and she carries the role well. Nonetheless, there can be a sense that she'd stand out a lot more if not for the colorful cast of supporting characters in two different periods like Lauren and Amelia (who both invent time machines in their teens), 2023 Pam (CrazyPrepared ActionMom), 1987 Pam (a GirlPosse ActionSurvivor who gets a lot of CharacterDevelopment and enters into an early romance with her future husband based on knowledge of their future relationship), future rock star Eddie, SmallNameBigEgo WellDoneSonGuy podcaster Chris and his LivingLegend IntrepidReporter father, {{Adorkable}} karate trainee Doug, MadeOfIron BigManOnCampus Blake, and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass stoner Kara.
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* VanillaProtagonist: Jamie is an ActionGirl FishOutOfTemporalWater out to stop the murder of her mother, and she carries the role well. Nonetheless, there can be a sense that she'd stand out a lot more if not for the colorful cast of supporting characters in two different periods like Lauren and Amelia (who both invent time machines in their teens), 2023 Pam (CrazyPrepared ActionMom), 1987 Pam (a GirlPosse ActionSurvivor who gets a lot of CharacterDevelopment and enters into an early romance with her future husband based on knowledge of their future relationship), future rock star Eddie, SmallNameBigEgo WellDoneSonGuy podcaster Chris and his LivingLegend IntrepidReporter father, {{Adorkable}} karate trainee Doug, MadeOfIron BigManOnCampus Blake, Lurch (a MisunderstoodLonerWithAHeartOfGold who recently lost a sibling), and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass stoner Kara.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The film sports a stirring and mood-appropriate soundtrack of mostly eighties music. The highlight of the soundtrack might be the rendition of "Let the Music Play" when the killer attacks Heather and Jamie, Blake, and Pam try to save her.
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** Is Norm really a neglectful father, or is Chris (who seems deeply attached his father as a teenager) just saying that due to jealousy about how much more successful than him his father is after his own reporting career turned out poorly?
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** Is Norm really a neglectful father, or is Chris (who seems deeply attached his father as a teenager) just saying that due to jealousy about how much more successful than him his father is after his own reporting career turned out poorly?poorly? Or did his neglectful behavior start after he moved to a national level? Norm's just the lead reporter for a small-town news station in 1987 and would have far more time to spend with his family than he would as a nationally recognized reporter that travels all over the country.
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** Doug is a hall monitor who is into video games and karate, enjoys reciting LittleKnownFacts, tries to sneak into the popular party, and is said to have once locked braces with his girlfriend while they were kissing.
** Pam may be a GirlPosse mean girl in 1987, but even before she begins [[TookALevelInKindness taking a level in kindness]], she has some adorable moments of giddily crushing over Blake and being a ClosetGeek who is worried about whether robots will take over the world one day like in the movies.
** Doug is a hall monitor who is into video games and karate, enjoys reciting LittleKnownFacts, tries to sneak into the popular party, and is said to have once locked braces with his girlfriend while they were kissing.
** Pam may be a GirlPosse mean girl in 1987, but even before she begins [[TookALevelInKindness taking a level in kindness]], she has some adorable moments of giddily crushing over Blake and being a ClosetGeek who is worried about whether robots will take over the world one day like in the movies.
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** [[spoiler:Why wasn't Pam at the sleepover that led to Patty's death? Was it pure coincidence that she couldn't be there that night, with Pam not finding out what went down until after the fact, or did she know what the other Mollys were planning and refuse to take part, even if she didn't warn Patty ahead of time? Or, did the other Mollys know on some level that Pam wouldn't be okay with the plan, and leave her out of it deliberately? ''Or'', would Patty have fully participated in the bullying if she'd been there, [[EveryoneHasStandards even if she wouldn't have let Patty drive home drunk]]?]]
** [[spoiler:The Mollys seem to be clueless in how their actions led directly to Patty's death. Is this genuine callousness and/or cluelessness? Are they are on some level but trying to bury the guilt by convincing themselves it wasn't their fault? Or do they know but just not care beyond not wanting to get in trouble? It's also possible this varies for each individual girl.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or ''Film/TheFinalGirls''.
** [[spoiler:The Mollys seem to be clueless in how their actions led directly to Patty's death. Is this genuine callousness and/or cluelessness? Are they are on some level but trying to bury the guilt by convincing themselves it wasn't their fault? Or do they know but just not care beyond not wanting to get in trouble? It's also possible this varies for each individual girl.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or ''Film/TheFinalGirls''.
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** [[spoiler:Why wasn't Pam at the sleepover that led to Patty's death? Was it pure coincidence that she couldn't be there that night, with Pam not finding out what went down until after the fact, or did she know what the other Mollys were planning and refuse to take part, even if she didn't warn Patty ahead of time? Or, did the other Mollys know on some level that Pam wouldn't be okay with the plan, and leave her out of it deliberately? ''Or'', would Patty [[spoiler:Would have fully participated in the bullying of Trish if she'd been there, on speaking terms with the others when they carried it out, [[EveryoneHasStandards even if she wouldn't have let Patty Trish drive home drunk]]?]]
** [[spoiler:The Mollys seem to be clueless in how their actions led directly toPatty's Trish's death. Is this genuine callousness and/or cluelessness? Are they are on some level but trying to bury the guilt by convincing themselves it wasn't their fault? Or do they know but just not care beyond not wanting to get in trouble? It's also possible this varies for each individual girl.]]
** Is Norm really a neglectful father, or is Chris (who seems deeply attached his father as a teenager) just saying that due to jealousy about how much more successful than him his father is after his own reporting career turned out poorly?
** Is the Sweet Sixteen Killer willing to kill Jamie (and her friends) for interfering with his plans in the 1987 scenes and narrowly failing, or is he deliberately stopping at just wounding them so they can't interfere?
* RootingForTheEmpire: [[spoiler:Doug's {{Adorkable}} nature, MadeOfIron martial artist skills, and only targeting a group of {{Asshole Victim}}s cause some fans to not mind watching his rampage and be disappointed when he's KilledOffForReal. His [[JackTheRipoff cruel and self-centered copycat]], on the other hand, attracts none of this sentiment.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or''Film/TheFinalGirls''.''Film/TheFinalGirls''.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Doug only makes one short cameo in the 2023 scenes when many fans would have been interested in seeing him react to the copycat he inadvertently inspired.]]
* VanillaProtagonist: Jamie is an ActionGirl FishOutOfTemporalWater out to stop the murder of her mother, and she carries the role well. Nonetheless, there can be a sense that she'd stand out a lot more if not for the colorful cast of supporting characters in two different periods like Lauren and Amelia (who both invent time machines in their teens), 2023 Pam (CrazyPrepared ActionMom), 1987 Pam (a GirlPosse ActionSurvivor who gets a lot of CharacterDevelopment and enters into an early romance with her future husband based on knowledge of their future relationship), future rock star Eddie, SmallNameBigEgo WellDoneSonGuy podcaster Chris and his LivingLegend IntrepidReporter father, {{Adorkable}} karate trainee Doug, MadeOfIron BigManOnCampus Blake, and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass stoner Kara.
** [[spoiler:The Mollys seem to be clueless in how their actions led directly to
** Is Norm really a neglectful father, or is Chris (who seems deeply attached his father as a teenager) just saying that due to jealousy about how much more successful than him his father is after his own reporting career turned out poorly?
** Is the Sweet Sixteen Killer willing to kill Jamie (and her friends) for interfering with his plans in the 1987 scenes and narrowly failing, or is he deliberately stopping at just wounding them so they can't interfere?
* RootingForTheEmpire: [[spoiler:Doug's {{Adorkable}} nature, MadeOfIron martial artist skills, and only targeting a group of {{Asshole Victim}}s cause some fans to not mind watching his rampage and be disappointed when he's KilledOffForReal. His [[JackTheRipoff cruel and self-centered copycat]], on the other hand, attracts none of this sentiment.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Doug only makes one short cameo in the 2023 scenes when many fans would have been interested in seeing him react to the copycat he inadvertently inspired.]]
* VanillaProtagonist: Jamie is an ActionGirl FishOutOfTemporalWater out to stop the murder of her mother, and she carries the role well. Nonetheless, there can be a sense that she'd stand out a lot more if not for the colorful cast of supporting characters in two different periods like Lauren and Amelia (who both invent time machines in their teens), 2023 Pam (CrazyPrepared ActionMom), 1987 Pam (a GirlPosse ActionSurvivor who gets a lot of CharacterDevelopment and enters into an early romance with her future husband based on knowledge of their future relationship), future rock star Eddie, SmallNameBigEgo WellDoneSonGuy podcaster Chris and his LivingLegend IntrepidReporter father, {{Adorkable}} karate trainee Doug, MadeOfIron BigManOnCampus Blake, and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass stoner Kara.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: [[spoiler: With the reveal that Doug was the original killer, his actions as principal come into question. Was he just performing his principal duties in comforting Jamie, was he trying to cover his tracks or did he feel guilt that his original RoaringRampageOfRevenge inspired a copycat to kill someone’s who had always been kind to him?]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or Film/TheFinalGirls.
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or Film/TheFinalGirls.
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** [[spoiler: With the reveal that Doug was the original killer, his actions as principal come into question. Was he just performing his principal duties in comforting Jamie, was he trying to cover his tracks or did he feel guilt that his original RoaringRampageOfRevenge inspired a copycat to kill someone’s who had always been kind to him?]]
** Pam makes a few casually homophobic remarks as a teen, [[spoiler:but in the altered timeline is perfectly accepting towards her gay son. Did she simply grow past her homophobic views, or change her outlook when her son came out? Or was she not particularly homophobic, at least not by the standards of her time and place, but sheltered and oblivious to how bigoted and hurtful her comments were as a teen, only to learn better and change her behavior?]]
** [[spoiler:Why wasn't Pam at the sleepover that led to Patty's death? Was it pure coincidence that she couldn't be there that night, with Pam not finding out what went down until after the fact, or did she know what the other Mollys were planning and refuse to take part, even if she didn't warn Patty ahead of time? Or, did the other Mollys know on some level that Pam wouldn't be okay with the plan, and leave her out of it deliberately? ''Or'', would Patty have fully participated in the bullying if she'd been there, [[EveryoneHasStandards even if she wouldn't have let Patty drive home drunk]]?]]
** [[spoiler:The Mollys seem to be clueless in how their actions led directly to Patty's death. Is this genuine callousness and/or cluelessness? Are they are on some level but trying to bury the guilt by convincing themselves it wasn't their fault? Or do they know but just not care beyond not wanting to get in trouble? It's also possible this varies for each individual girl.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film orFilm/TheFinalGirls.''Film/TheFinalGirls''.
** [[spoiler: With the reveal that Doug was the original killer, his actions as principal come into question. Was he just performing his principal duties in comforting Jamie, was he trying to cover his tracks or did he feel guilt that his original RoaringRampageOfRevenge inspired a copycat to kill someone’s who had always been kind to him?]]
** Pam makes a few casually homophobic remarks as a teen, [[spoiler:but in the altered timeline is perfectly accepting towards her gay son. Did she simply grow past her homophobic views, or change her outlook when her son came out? Or was she not particularly homophobic, at least not by the standards of her time and place, but sheltered and oblivious to how bigoted and hurtful her comments were as a teen, only to learn better and change her behavior?]]
** [[spoiler:Why wasn't Pam at the sleepover that led to Patty's death? Was it pure coincidence that she couldn't be there that night, with Pam not finding out what went down until after the fact, or did she know what the other Mollys were planning and refuse to take part, even if she didn't warn Patty ahead of time? Or, did the other Mollys know on some level that Pam wouldn't be okay with the plan, and leave her out of it deliberately? ''Or'', would Patty have fully participated in the bullying if she'd been there, [[EveryoneHasStandards even if she wouldn't have let Patty drive home drunk]]?]]
** [[spoiler:The Mollys seem to be clueless in how their actions led directly to Patty's death. Is this genuine callousness and/or cluelessness? Are they are on some level but trying to bury the guilt by convincing themselves it wasn't their fault? Or do they know but just not care beyond not wanting to get in trouble? It's also possible this varies for each individual girl.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or
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* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or Film/TheFinalGirls.
* SpiritualSuccessor: "A horror-comedy slasher where a daughter goes back in time and fights the slasher villain that caused her mother's death" could describe either this film or Film/TheFinalGirls.
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