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** "Dirty Old Town" was originally written Ewan MacColl about Salford. Music/TheDubliners' 1964 version made it part of the Irish folk repertoire, but the Pogues' version cemented it as a Dublin anthem for all time. Salford City FC even play the Pogues' version rather than MacColl's.
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** "Dirty Old Town" was originally written Ewan MacColl [=MacColl=] about Salford. Music/TheDubliners' 1964 version made it part of the Irish folk repertoire, but the Pogues' version cemented it as a Dublin anthem for all time. Salford City FC even play the Pogues' version rather than MacColl's.[=MacColl=]'s.
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** "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by Music/EricBogle, but The Pogues version is much, much better known. The most obvious hint they didn't write it is that it's about the Australian experience during WWI, while the Pogues are mostly interested in the Irish experience anywhere at all.
*** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.
** "Dirty Old Town" as well.
*** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.
** "Dirty Old Town" as well.
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*** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.
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** "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by Music/EricBogle, but the Pogues' version is much better known north of the equator. (Bogle's version remains the iconic one in Australia, however.)
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* TearJerker: "Fairytale Of New York", "And The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda", "The Old Main Drag", "Thousands Are Sailing", "A Pair Of Brown Eyes"... take your pick.
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* SignatureSong: "Fairytale of New York" - it's a beloved Christmas song in the United Kingdom and Ireland, and re-enters the charts annually.
* TearJerker: "Fairytale Of New York", "And The Band Played WaltzingMathilda", Matilda", "The Old Main Drag", "Thousands Are Sailing", "A Pair Of Brown Eyes"... take your pick.
* TearJerker: "Fairytale Of New York", "And The Band Played Waltzing
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* CommonKnowledge: Everyone "knows" that "Fairytale of New York" is a cynical, bitter AntiChristmasSong about two deeply troubled people whose relationship falls apart acrimoniously. Well, not exactly. Beneath all the fighting and misery, the two still love each other and hope for a better life together; the end of the song even implies that the couple reconciles. It's still not a ''happy'' Christmas song -- but it's all the more sincere because of it.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out. Shane [=MacGowan=] [[https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/not-all-characters-in-songs-and-stories-are-angels-shane-macgowan-responds-to-fairytale-controversy-37603661.html defends it]] on the grounds that the song is sung from the view of a bigoted LowerClassLout who is supposed to come across as homophobic, similar to Mark Knopfler's justification for using the slur in Music/DireStraits' "Money for Nothing".
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out. Shane [=MacGowan=] [[https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/not-all-characters-in-songs-and-stories-are-angels-shane-macgowan-responds-to-fairytale-controversy-37603661.html defends defended it]] on the grounds that the song is sung from the view of a bigoted LowerClassLout who is supposed to come across as homophobic, similar to Mark Knopfler's justification for using the slur in Music/DireStraits' "Money for Nothing".
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* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Shane [=McGowan=], who was the lead singer, lyricist and a provocative public figure famous for his alcoholism. To the public at large, the Pogues are Shane [=McGowan=] and a bunch of other guys.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out. Shane [=MacGowan=] [[https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/not-all-characters-in-songs-and-stories-are-angels-shane-macgowan-responds-to-fairytale-controversy-37603661.html defends it]] on the grounds that the song is sung from the view of a bigoted LowerClassLout who is supposed to come across as homophobic.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out. Shane [=MacGowan=] [[https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/not-all-characters-in-songs-and-stories-are-angels-shane-macgowan-responds-to-fairytale-controversy-37603661.html defends it]] on the grounds that the song is sung from the view of a bigoted LowerClassLout who is supposed to come across as homophobic.homophobic, similar to Mark Knopfler's justification for using the slur in Music/DireStraits' "Money for Nothing".
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* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Shane [=McGowan=], who was the lead singer, lyricist and a provocative public figure famous for his alcoholism. To the public at large, the Pogues are Shane McGowan and a bunch of other guys.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Shane [=McGowan=], who was the lead singer, lyricist and a provocative public figure famous for his alcoholism. To the public at large, the Pogues are Shane McGowan [=McGowan=] and a bunch of other guys.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Shane McGowan, who was the lead singer, lyricist and a provocative public figure famous for his alcoholism. To the public at large, the Pogues are Shane McGowan and a bunch of other guys.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Shane McGowan, [=McGowan=], who was the lead singer, lyricist and a provocative public figure famous for his alcoholism. To the public at large, the Pogues are Shane McGowan and a bunch of other guys.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Undoubtedly Shane McGowan, who was the lead singer, lyricist and a provocative public figure famous for his alcoholism. To the public at large, the Pogues are Shane McGowan and a bunch of other guys.
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* CoveredUp: "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by Music/EricBogle, but The Pogues version is much, much better known. The most obvious hint they didn't write it is that it's about the Australian experience during WWI, while the Pogues are mostly interested in the Irish experience anywhere at all.
** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.
** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.
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* CoveredUp: CoveredUp:
** "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by Music/EricBogle, but The Pogues version is much, much better known. The most obvious hint they didn't write it is that it's about the Australian experience during WWI, while the Pogues are mostly interested in the Irish experience anywhere at all.
** *** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.Australia.
** "Dirty Old Town" as well.
-->'''Cait O'Riordan:''' In all the thousand times I’ve heard people play this song since 1986 I’ve never heard anyone ''not'' play it in our arrangement.
** "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by Music/EricBogle, but The Pogues version is much, much better known. The most obvious hint they didn't write it is that it's about the Australian experience during WWI, while the Pogues are mostly interested in the Irish experience anywhere at all.
** "Dirty Old Town" as well.
-->'''Cait O'Riordan:''' In all the thousand times I’ve heard people play this song since 1986 I’ve never heard anyone ''not'' play it in our arrangement.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out. Shane MacGowan [[https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/not-all-characters-in-songs-and-stories-are-angels-shane-macgowan-responds-to-fairytale-controversy-37603661.html defends it]] on the grounds that the song is sung from the view of a bigoted LowerClassLout who is supposed to come across as homophobic.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out. Shane MacGowan [=MacGowan=] [[https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/not-all-characters-in-songs-and-stories-are-angels-shane-macgowan-responds-to-fairytale-controversy-37603661.html defends it]] on the grounds that the song is sung from the view of a bigoted LowerClassLout who is supposed to come across as homophobic.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out. Shane MacGowan [[https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/music-news/not-all-characters-in-songs-and-stories-are-angels-shane-macgowan-responds-to-fairytale-controversy-37603661.html defends it]] on the grounds that the song is sung from the view of a bigoted LowerClassLout who is supposed to come across as homophobic.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Possible TearJerker, but this verse from ''Body Of An American.''
--> "This morning on the harbour, when I said goodbye to you
--> I remember how I swore that I'd come back to you one day
--> "This morning on the harbour, when I said goodbye to you
--> I remember how I swore that I'd come back to you one day
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Possible TearJerker, but this verse from ''Body Of An American.''
--> "This morning on the harbour, when I said goodbye toyou
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I remember how I swore that I'd come back to you one day
--> "This morning on the harbour, when I said goodbye to
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I remember how I swore that I'd come back to you one day
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out.out.
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot".
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** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot"."faggot", to the point where some radio stations now edit that word out.
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* ValuesDissonance: "The Old Main Drag" contains a transphobic slur, which would be unthinkable in TheNewTens.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** "The Old Main Drag" contains a transphobic slur, which would be unthinkable inTheNewTens.TheNewTens.
** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot".
** "The Old Main Drag" contains a transphobic slur, which would be unthinkable in
** "Fairytale Of New York" has attracted a lot of criticism for the use of the word "faggot".
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* CoveredUp: "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by EricBogle, but The Pogues version is much, much better known. The most obvious hint they didn't write it is that it's about the Australian experience during WWI, while the Pogues are mostly interested in the Irish experience anywhere at all.
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* CoveredUp: "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by EricBogle, Music/EricBogle, but The Pogues version is much, much better known. The most obvious hint they didn't write it is that it's about the Australian experience during WWI, while the Pogues are mostly interested in the Irish experience anywhere at all.all.
** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.
** Bogle's version is better known in Australia.
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* ValuesDissonance: "The Old Main Drag" contains a transphobic slur.
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* ValuesDissonance: "The Old Main Drag" contains a transphobic slur.slur, which would be unthinkable in TheNewTens.
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* TearJerker: "Fairytale Of New York", "And The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda", "The Old Main Drag", "Thousands Are Sailing", "A Pair Of Brown Eyes"... take your pick.
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* TearJerker: "Fairytale Of New York", "And The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda", "The Old Main Drag", "Thousands Are Sailing", "A Pair Of Brown Eyes"... take your pick.pick.
* ValuesDissonance: "The Old Main Drag" contains a transphobic slur.
* ValuesDissonance: "The Old Main Drag" contains a transphobic slur.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Possible TearJerker, but this verse from Body Of An American.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Possible TearJerker, but this verse from Body ''Body Of An American.''
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--> "This morning on the harbour/When I said goodbye to you
--> I remember how I swore/That I'd come back to you one day
--> And as the sunset came to meet/The evening on the hill
--> I told you I'd always love you/I always did and I always will"
--> I remember how I swore/That I'd come back to you one day
--> And as the sunset came to meet/The evening on the hill
--> I told you I'd always love you/I always did and I always will"
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--> "This morning on the harbour/When harbour, when I said goodbye to you
--> I remember how Iswore/That swore that I'd come back to you one day
--> And as the sunset came tomeet/The meet the evening on the hill
--> I told you I'd always loveyou/I you; I always did and I always will"
--> I remember how I
--> And as the sunset came to
--> I told you I'd always love
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Possible TearJerker, but this verse from Body Of An American.
--> "This morning on the harbour/When I said goodbye to you
--> I remember how I swore/That I'd come back to you one day
--> And as the sunset came to meet/The evening on the hill
--> I told you I'd always love you/I always did and I always will"
--> "This morning on the harbour/When I said goodbye to you
--> I remember how I swore/That I'd come back to you one day
--> And as the sunset came to meet/The evening on the hill
--> I told you I'd always love you/I always did and I always will"
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheresSomethingAboutMary Matt]] [[Film/WildThings Dillon]] plays the cop who arrests Shane's character in the "Fairytale of New York" music video.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheresSomethingAboutMary Matt]] [[WildThings Dillon]] plays the cop who arrests Shane's character in the "Fairytale of New York" music video.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheresSomethingAboutMary Matt]] [[WildThings [[Film/WildThings Dillon]] plays the cop who arrests Shane's character in the "Fairytale of New York" music video.
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* CoveredUp: "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is originally by EricBogle, but The Pogues version is much, much better known. The most obvious hint they didn't write it is that it's about the Australian experience during WWI, while the Pogues are mostly interested in the Irish experience anywhere at all.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheresSomethingAboutMary Matt Dillon]] plays the cop who arrests Shane's character in the "Fairytale of New York" music video.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheresSomethingAboutMary Matt Matt]] [[WildThings Dillon]] plays the cop who arrests Shane's character in the "Fairytale of New York" music video.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheresSomethingAboutMary Matt Dillon]] plays the cop who arrests Shane's character in the "Fairytale of New York" music video.
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* TearJerker: "Fairytale Of New York", "And The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda", "The Old Main Drag", "Thousands Are Sailing", "A Pair Of Brown Eyes"... take your pick.
