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** In the case of the Piper, it would be "Always ask for your money up front." Or, alternatively, in the case Hamelin, "Don't make promises you can't keep"

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** In the case of the Piper, it would be "Always ask for your money up front." Or, alternatively, in the case of Hamelin, "Don't make promises you can't keep"keep."
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* NightmareFuel: A whole village's innocent children are abducted to get back at what only one person did. Scarier in the versions where we never find out where he takes them, or what happens to them afterward. UpToEleven in the versions where [[WouldHurtAChild the Piper drowns the children like he did with the rats]]. Of course, the varying degrees of truth to the story could have real implications of what happened to the real children of Hamelin.

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* NightmareFuel: A whole village's innocent children are abducted to get back at what only one person did. Scarier in the versions where we never find out where he takes them, or what happens to them afterward. UpToEleven Up to eleven in the versions where [[WouldHurtAChild the Piper drowns the children like he did with the rats]]. Of course, the varying degrees of truth to the story could have real implications of what happened to the real children of Hamelin.
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** Some people theorize that the Piper was responsible for the rat infestation in the first place.
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* AdultFear: A strange man taking your children away in the middle of the night and never finding them again? Yep. Definitely counts. Taken UpToEleven when you realize it never would have happened [[ItsAllMyFault had you just stuck to your end of the deal.]]
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* AdultFear: A strange man taking your children away in the middle of the night and never finding them again? Yep. Definitely counts. Taken UpToEleven when you realize it never would have happened [[ItsAllMyFault had you just stuck to your end of the deal.]]
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** In the case of the Piper, it would be "Always ask for your money up front." or, alternatively, in the case Hamelin, "Don't make promises you can't keep"

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** In the case of the Piper, it would be "Always ask for your money up front." or, Or, alternatively, in the case Hamelin, "Don't make promises you can't keep"



* NightmareFuel: A whole village's innocent children are abducted to get back at what only one person did. Scarier in the versions where we never find out where he takes them, or what happens to them afterward. UpToEleven in the versions where the Piper drown the children like he did with the rats. Of course the varying degrees of truth to the story could have real implications of what happened to the real children of Hamelin.

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* NightmareFuel: A whole village's innocent children are abducted to get back at what only one person did. Scarier in the versions where we never find out where he takes them, or what happens to them afterward. UpToEleven in the versions where [[WouldHurtAChild the Piper drown drowns the children like he did with the rats. rats]]. Of course course, the varying degrees of truth to the story could have real implications of what happened to the real children of Hamelin.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is the Piper a villain? Are the townsfolk huge jerkasses? Somewhere in-between? Every way to answer those questions has had a version of this story all to itself:
** It's not unheard of for the townsfolk to gather up their money to pay the Piper, only to hear his price is so exorbitant they can't actually pay him.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is the Piper a greedy villain? Are the townsfolk huge jerkasses? being cheapskates? Somewhere in-between? Every way to answer those questions has had a version of this story all to itself:
** It's not unheard of for the townsfolk to gather up their money to pay the Piper, only to hear [[AdamSmithHatesYourGuts his price is so exorbitant they can't actually pay him.him]].

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** The Classics Illustrated (aka Classic Comics) version portrays him as a reasonable man angered by the injustice of the town's mayor refusing to pay him (he even backs down to his original price, after the mayor rhetorically promised over 10 times that much in a moment of despair). The lame boy's mother, who is very poor, tries to pay the piper what little she can, and this is why the lame boy is spared (the Piper even tells her not to worry).

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** The Classics Illustrated (aka Classic Comics) Illustrated/Classic Comics version portrays him as a reasonable man angered by the injustice of the town's mayor refusing to pay him (he -- he even backs down to his original price, after the mayor rhetorically promised over 10 times that much in a moment of despair). despair. The lame boy's mother, who is very poor, tries to pay the piper what little she can, and this is why the lame boy is spared (the Piper even tells her not to worry).worry).
*** Similarly, the ''Series/FaerieTaleTheatre'' version expanding upon the Browning poem has the Piper spare the lame boy [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe because he was the only person who was nice to him when he first arrived in the town]] (and just as he was reconsidering helping the townsfolk out at all because "I never intrude where I'm not needed"), though the boy never realizes the mercy he was shown.
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** The Michael Morpurgo version, told from the viewpoint of the lame boy, has the Piper only asking for a gold coin, and enlisting the lame boy to tell the Mayor and the townspeople that the corrupt town needs to change. When he returns, he asks for the money again, and is told that it's all gone, as they had to change the town, and he... replies that that was the payment he truly wanted, so it is definitely a positive example.

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* NightmareFuel: A whole village's innocent children are abducted to get back at what only one person did. Scarier in the versions where we never find out where he takes them, or what happens to them afterward. UpToEleven in the versions where the Piper drown the children like he did with the rats.
** Of course the varying degrees of truth to the story could have real implications of what happened to the real children of Hamelin.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: While taking the children away as punishment isn't something most would agree on, the Piper is right in wanting to be paid what he was promised (or paid at all, in some versions) for getting rid of the rats.

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* NightmareFuel: A whole village's innocent children are abducted to get back at what only one person did. Scarier in the versions where we never find out where he takes them, or what happens to them afterward. UpToEleven in the versions where the Piper drown the children like he did with the rats.
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rats. Of course the varying degrees of truth to the story could have real implications of what happened to the real children of Hamelin.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: While taking the children away as punishment isn't something most would agree on, the Piper is right in wanting to be paid what he was promised (or paid at all, in some versions) for getting rid of the rats.

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