Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / TheOtherBoleynGirl

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
actor trivia


* HilariousInHindsight:
** Creator/EricBana had already played Bruce Banner in ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' before this film, with Creator/ScarlettJohansson and Creator/NataliePortman going on to play Black Widow and Jane Foster in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{Thor}}'' respectively. (although Bana's Hulk is not a part of the MCU).
** For even more hilarity, along with Jane Foster and Black Widow being in this movie with a former Hulk, you also have Creator/BenedictCumberbatch and Creator/AndrewGarfield in here as William Carey and Francis Weston before they were cast as Doctor Strange and Spider-Man, respectively (although Garfield was Spider-Man in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', not the MCU).
** And also there is Creator/MarkRylance playing the Boleyn sisters' father Thomas Boleyn here, and would later star as [[Series/WolfHall a different Thomas]] who assists Henry VIII in getting rid of Anne Boleyn.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned (although that was {{Laser Guided-Karma}}) and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).

to:

** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned (although that was {{Laser Guided-Karma}}) Guided Karma}}) and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned (although that was [[Laser-Guided-Karma]]) and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).

to:

** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned (although that was [[Laser-Guided-Karma]]) {{Laser Guided-Karma}}) and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).

Added: 111

Changed: 109

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MoralEventHorizon: Henry finally has enough of Anne being TheTease and decides to rape her. This is how Elizabeth is conceived.

to:

* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
**
Henry finally has enough of Anne being TheTease and decides to rape her. This is how Elizabeth is conceived.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned (although that was Laser-Guided-Karma) and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).

to:

** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned (although that was Laser-Guided-Karma) [[Laser-Guided-Karma]]) and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).

Added: 131

Changed: 39

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Norfolk sentencing his own niece to her death, when he was the one who manipulated all the bad deeds she did in the first place.



** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).

to:

** The fates of the Boleyn family: Sir Thomas Boleyn (Anne, Mary and George's father) died two years later in disgrace, The Duke of Norfolk was imprisoned (although that was Laser-Guided-Karma) and the next three generations of his family executed for treason (son, grandson and great-grandson), and Lady Boleyn died a year after her husband (and thus two years after Anne and George). Mary's ending is bittersweet, she lost her brother, her sister and her standing at court, but she got to live out the rest of her days with her children and husband, dying at the age of 44 (some ten years after Anne and George's execution).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Eric Bana had already played Bruce Banner in ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' before this film, with Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman going on to play Black Widow and Jane Foster in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{Thor}}'' respectively. (although Bana's Hulk is not a part of the MCU).
** For even more hilarity, along with Jane Foster and Black Widow being in this movie with a former Hulk, you also have Benedict Cumberbatch and Andrew Garfield in here as William Carey and Francis Weston before they were cast as Doctor Strange and Spider-Man, respectively (although Garfield was Spider-Man in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', not the MCU).

to:

** Eric Bana Creator/EricBana had already played Bruce Banner in ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' before this film, with Scarlett Johansson Creator/ScarlettJohansson and Natalie Portman Creator/NataliePortman going on to play Black Widow and Jane Foster in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{Thor}}'' respectively. (although Bana's Hulk is not a part of the MCU).
** For even more hilarity, along with Jane Foster and Black Widow being in this movie with a former Hulk, you also have Benedict Cumberbatch Creator/BenedictCumberbatch and Andrew Garfield Creator/AndrewGarfield in here as William Carey and Francis Weston before they were cast as Doctor Strange and Spider-Man, respectively (although Garfield was Spider-Man in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', not the MCU).

Added: 436

Changed: 244

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RetroactiveRecognition: Among the bigger stars of the film (as detailed in HilariousInHindsight above), playing a minor character (King's Messenger) would be one Creator/AlfieAllen, who would be better known three years later as [[Series/GameOfThrones Theon Greyjoy]].

to:

* RetroactiveRecognition: RetroactiveRecognition:
**
Among the bigger stars of the film (as detailed in HilariousInHindsight above), playing a minor character (King's Messenger) would be one Creator/AlfieAllen, who would be better known three years later as [[Series/GameOfThrones Theon Greyjoy]].Greyjoy]].
** Similarly, another relatively-minor character (William Stafford, one of Anne Boleyn's accused adulterers) is played by someone who would later gain better acclaim: Creator/EddieRedmayne.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* RetroactiveRecognition: Among the bigger stars of the film (as detailed in HilariousInHindsight above), playing a minor character (King's Messenger) would be one Creator/AlfieAllen, who would be better known three years later as [[Series/GameOfThrones Theon Greyjoy]].

Changed: 184

Removed: 206

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* JerkassWoobie: Anne.

to:

* JerkassWoobie: Anne.
Anne is a manipulative little schemer, and she screws over a lot of people to get what she wants. That being said, it's not hard to feel sorry for her as her entire life crashes around her.



* JerkassWoobie: Anne is a manipulative little schemer, and she screws over a lot of people to get what she wants. That being said, it's not hard to feel sorry for her as her entire life crashes around her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Deliberate examples also belong on main


* ValuesDissonance: Some of the sexual metaphors and phrases spoken by the characters would seem demeaning and shocking if someone said them to people today. For instance, today you probably wouldn't tell your sister not to let her husband get her 'in pup.' Or refer to your sisters being in heat. Or tell someone that you got your wife 'in foal' just months after marriage.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: Some of the sexual metaphors and phrases spoken by the characters would seem demeaning and shocking if someone said them to people today. For instance, today you probably wouldn't tell your sister not to let her husband get her 'in pup.' Or refer to your sisters being in heat. Or tell someone that you got your wife 'in foal' just months after marriage.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Invoked tropes belong on main


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Of the historical Anne Boleyn and her sister Mary.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not a YMMV trope.


* HateSink:
** Jane Parker is an unpleasant shrew who ends up getting George executed.
** The Duke of Norfolk too! He was the reason Anne and Mary were entrapped into the scheme in the first place, but he also voted for her death! The slap he gets from his sister is well deserved!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Eric Bana had already played Bruce Banner in ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' before this film with Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman going on to play Black Widow and Jane Foster in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{Thor}}'' respectively.
** For even more hilarity, along with Jane Foster and Black Widow being in this movie with a former Hulk, you also have Benedict Cumberbatch and Andrew Garfield in here as William Carey and Francis Weston before they were cast as Doctor Strange and Spider-Man, respective (although Garfield was Spider-Man in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', not the MCU).

to:

** Eric Bana had already played Bruce Banner in ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' before this film film, with Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman going on to play Black Widow and Jane Foster in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{Thor}}'' respectively.
respectively. (although Bana's Hulk is not a part of the MCU).
** For even more hilarity, along with Jane Foster and Black Widow being in this movie with a former Hulk, you also have Benedict Cumberbatch and Andrew Garfield in here as William Carey and Francis Weston before they were cast as Doctor Strange and Spider-Man, respective respectively (although Garfield was Spider-Man in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', not the MCU).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* OneSceneWonder: Ana Torrent as UsefulNotes/CatherineOfAragon steals every scene she appears in. Many viewers praised the graceful, dignified portrayal of the Queen, finding also her ShutUpHannibal moment to Anne.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DuelingStarsMovie: Portman vs. Johansson.
* HateSink: Jane Parker is an unpleasant shrew who ends up getting George executed.

to:

* DuelingStarsMovie: Portman vs. Johansson.
* HateSink:
HateSink:
**
Jane Parker is an unpleasant shrew who ends up getting George executed.



** Eric Bana had already played Bruce Banner in ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' before this film with Scarlett and Natalie going on to play the Black Widow and Jane Foster in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{Thor}}''.
** For even more hilarity, along with Jane and Black Widow being in this movie with a former Hulk, you also have Benedict Cumberbatch and Andrew Garfield in here as William Carey and Francis Weston before they were cast as Dr. Strange and Spider-Man.

to:

** Eric Bana had already played Bruce Banner in ''Film/{{Hulk}}'' before this film with Scarlett Johansson and Natalie Portman going on to play the Black Widow and Jane Foster in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse in ''Film/IronMan2'' and ''Film/{{Thor}}''.
''Film/{{Thor}}'' respectively.
** For even more hilarity, along with Jane Foster and Black Widow being in this movie with a former Hulk, you also have Benedict Cumberbatch and Andrew Garfield in here as William Carey and Francis Weston before they were cast as Dr. Doctor Strange and Spider-Man.Spider-Man, respective (although Garfield was Spider-Man in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', not the MCU).

Top