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VD has a 20-year waiting period, since the film came out in June 2004, we still need to wait a couple of months.
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* ValuesDissonance: Noah's attitude in his pursuit of Allie nowadays may come across as entitled and even toxic, but wasn't all that uncommon in the 1940s. Ultimately where people's opinions fall on the movie depends on whether they judge the characters by modern eyes or accept them as intended products of the time. Or on whether Sparks and/or the movie's director and writers successfully did so.
* TheWoobie: Poor Lon.
* TheWoobie: Poor Lon.
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* CriticalDissonance: Ordinary moviegoers call this one of the best romances of the 2000s, but the critics seem more divided. On Website/RottenTomatoes, the film has a Tomatometer score of 53%, compared to an 85% audience score (as of 2021).
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* CriticalDissonance: Ordinary moviegoers call this one of the best romances of the 2000s, but the critics seem more divided. On Website/RottenTomatoes, the film has a Tomatometer score of 53%, compared to an 85% audience score (as of 2021).
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This makes it sound like threatening to drop off a ferris wheel was a common way to get dates.
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* ValuesDissonance: Noah's attitude in his pursuit of Allie nowadays may come across as entitled and even toxic, particularly his threatening to kill himself, but wasn't all that uncommon in the 1940s. Ultimately where people's opinions fall on the movie depends on whether they judge the characters by modern eyes or accept them as intended products of the time. Or on whether Sparks and/or the movie's director and writers successfully did so.
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* ValuesDissonance: Noah's attitude in his pursuit of Allie nowadays may come across as entitled and even toxic, particularly his threatening to kill himself, but wasn't all that uncommon in the 1940s. Ultimately where people's opinions fall on the movie depends on whether they judge the characters by modern eyes or accept them as intended products of the time. Or on whether Sparks and/or the movie's director and writers successfully did so.
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Made it less overtly negative. It barely even looked like an example of Values Dissonance before.
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* ValuesDissonance: When this film came out, audiences hailed it as one of the most (of not THE MOST) romantic movies in history that a lot of women loved and said they wanted a relationship like Allie and Noah. However, over the years since it’s release, more than a few people have pointed out that their relationship is ridiculously toxic, and Noah, for all his charm, is a stalker with a ridiculous case of entitled to have you. He sees her, immediately decides he has to have her (“When I see something I want, I just have to have it.”), he asks her out, she CLEARLY says no, and he resorts to threatening to kill himself if she won’t go out with him. When they do get together, they do nothing but fight when they’re not making out. At one point in the movie, Noah goes as far as to build her dream house on a whim and reveals that he wrote her 365 letters, one for every day of the year. Misaimed fandom indeed.
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* ValuesDissonance: When this film came out, audiences hailed it as one Noah's attitude in his pursuit of the most (of not THE MOST) romantic movies in history that a lot of women loved and said they wanted a relationship like Allie and Noah. However, over the years since it’s release, more than a few people have pointed out that their relationship is ridiculously toxic, and Noah, for all his charm, is a stalker with a ridiculous case of nowadays may come across as entitled to have you. He sees her, immediately decides he has to have her (“When I see something I want, I just have to have it.”), he asks her out, she CLEARLY says no, and he resorts to even toxic, particularly his threatening to kill himself if she won’t go out with him. When they do get together, they do nothing himself, but fight when they’re not making out. At one point wasn't all that uncommon in the movie, Noah goes 1940s. Ultimately where people's opinions fall on the movie depends on whether they judge the characters by modern eyes or accept them as far as to build her dream house on a whim and reveals that he wrote her 365 letters, one for every day intended products of the year. Misaimed fandom indeed.time. Or on whether Sparks and/or the movie's director and writers successfully did so.
