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* ContestedSequel: Alongside its predecessor Reloaded.
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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
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** Deus Ex Machina can be counted, probably due to Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson voicing it.
** Rama-Khandra, and Persephone who in this movie only has ''one''
** Deus Ex Machina can be counted, probably due to Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson voicing it.
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** Giant flying baby face made of bugs. Egads.
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** Giant flying baby face made of bugs. Egads. ''"WE DON'T NEED YOU! WE NEED NOTHING!!!"''
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** The film completely ignores how ''Reloaded'' ended with the strong implication that the supposed real world was just another computer program to keep anyone who happened to wake up from the Matrix under control. This also leaves Neo's abilities to use his powers in the real world as a major plot hole.
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** The film completely ignores how ''Reloaded'' ended with the strong implication that the supposed real world was just another computer program to keep anyone who happened to wake up from the Matrix under control. This also leaves Neo's abilities to use his powers in the real world as a major plot hole. However, the Wachowskis never planned that at all.
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* MemeticMutation: Smith's laugh [[spoiler: after duplicating from the Oracle]].
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* SignatureScene:
** Neo attacking the Trainman.
** Neo's meeting with the Deus Ex Machina.
** The final battle between Neo and Smith.
** Neo attacking the Trainman.
** Neo's meeting with the Deus Ex Machina.
** The final battle between Neo and Smith.
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** Smith LaughingMad after [[spoiler: assimilating the Oracle]] should come off as ridiculous as it looks. But because you really don't expect it of this character, it's effectively chilling.
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* MoralEventHorizon: For Smith.
** "[[WouldHurtAChild I'm not]] ''[[WouldHurtAChild so]]'' [[WouldHurtAChild bad once you get to know me...]]"
** "Cookies need love like everything does" was even more pants-shittingly evil.
-->'''Oracle:''' You are a bastard.
-->'''Smith:''' You would know, mom.
** "[[WouldHurtAChild I'm not]] ''[[WouldHurtAChild so]]'' [[WouldHurtAChild bad once you get to know me...]]"
** "Cookies need love like everything does" was even more pants-shittingly evil.
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-->'''Smith:''' You would know, mom.
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-->'''Oracle:''' You are a bastard.
-->'''Smith:''' You would know, mom.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
**TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Simplifying the Architect's dialogue made literate fans of the scene from The Matrix Reloaded agitated.
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* FanDislikedExplanation: The Oracle explains to Neo that his new powers, like his disabling the Sentinels outside the Matrix, come from connection to the Source. A lot of fans ignore this explanation because not only does it ruin the popular "The real world is another level of the Matrix" idea, but it makes the Source a little too powerful to be believable (like giving Neo psychic premonitions).
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* FanDislikedExplanation: The Oracle explains to Neo that his new powers, like his disabling the Sentinels outside the Matrix, come from connection to the Source. A lot of fans ignore this explanation because not only does it ruin the popular "The real world is another level of the Matrix" idea, but it makes the Source a little too powerful to be believable (like giving Neo psychic premonitions).premonitions outside of the Matrix).
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** What Smith does to Bane. You're not safe from this guy's assimilation ability even if you're a redpill, and if you're taken over, you become the bastard's gateway into the Real World, meaning '''no one in the Real World is safe from him'''.
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** Simplifying the Architect's dialogue made literate fans of the scene from The Matrix Reloaded agitated.
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** [[spoiler:Trinity]]'s death scene. Note that the main complaint about the scene (its length) is a case of [[RealityIsUnrealistic reality being unrealistic]], since if anything she would have taken a lot ''longer'' to die in the real world, as the rods piercing her body would have plugged her wounds and slowed down her bleeding out. Even with that however, chances are she'd have been in far too much pain to give a long, dull speech.
** NarmCharm: Smith stating that "Cookies need love like everything does". Out of context, having him deliver this line sounds silly and kind of hilarious. ''In'' context, though, it's an IronicEcho to indicate that he just crossed the MoralEventHorizon by [[spoiler:assimilating [[WouldHurtAChild a child]]]], thus making it genuinely creepy.
** NarmCharm: Smith stating that "Cookies need love like everything does". Out of context, having him deliver this line sounds silly and kind of hilarious. ''In'' context, though, it's an IronicEcho to indicate that he just crossed the MoralEventHorizon by [[spoiler:assimilating [[WouldHurtAChild a child]]]], thus making it genuinely creepy.
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** [[spoiler:Trinity]]'s death scene. Note scene would have been much more effective if it didn't feature a FinalSpeech that goes on for ''4 minutes''. [[note]]Note that the main complaint about the scene (its length) is a case of [[RealityIsUnrealistic reality being unrealistic]], since if anything she would have taken a lot ''longer'' to die in the real world, as the rods piercing her body would have plugged her wounds and slowed down her bleeding out. Even with that however, chances are she'd have been in far too much pain to give a long, dull speech.
**speech.[[/note]]
* NarmCharm: Smith stating that "Cookies need love like everything does". Out of context, having him deliver this line sounds silly and kind of hilarious. ''In'' context, though, it's an IronicEcho to indicate that he just crossed the MoralEventHorizon by [[spoiler:assimilating [[WouldHurtAChild a child]]]], thus making it genuinely creepy.
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* NarmCharm: Smith stating that "Cookies need love like everything does". Out of context, having him deliver this line sounds silly and kind of hilarious. ''In'' context, though, it's an IronicEcho to indicate that he just crossed the MoralEventHorizon by [[spoiler:assimilating [[WouldHurtAChild a child]]]], thus making it genuinely creepy.
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** The film doesn't follow up on any of the foreshadowing ''Reloaded'' had about the Merovingian; He only serves as a minor antagonist who is quickly dealt with, and Persephone is effectively DemotedToExtra.
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* FanDislikedExplanation: The Oracle explains to Neo that his new powers, like his disabling the Sentinels outside the Matrix, come from connection to the Source. A lot of fans ignore this explanation because not only does it ruin the popular "The real world is another level of the Matrix" idea, but it makes the Source a little too powerful to be believable (like giving Neo psychic premonitions).
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* {{Padding}}: The battle of Zion, while cool looking, does not matter at all since Neo is the only one who can stop the fighting and he's somewhere else. One could argue the battle is necessary to show just how hopeless a fight it is for the humans and reinforce Neo's importance, and show that everyone isn't just sitting on their thumbs waiting for Neo, but that could have been done with a couple of shots, not over a half an hour of pointless subplots.
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** Not enough time is given to Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he's become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see Smith!Bane's reactions to a real body; you can see a little bit when he's staring fascinated at his own cut hand.
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* NightmareFuel:
** The way Smith reveals that he assimilated Sati: ''"Cookies need love like everything else."''
** Giant flying baby face made of bugs. Egads.
** The way Smith reveals that he assimilated Sati: ''"Cookies need love like everything else."''
** Giant flying baby face made of bugs. Egads.
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** Not enough time is given to Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he's become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see Smith!Bane's reactions to a real body; you can see a little bit when he's staring, fascinated, staring fascinated at his own cut hand.
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--> '''Creator/NoahAntwiler''': What's really terrible is that it doesn't seem like humanity really comes out on top at all. The machines are still an overwhelming, dominant force. Humanity is still wedged in Zion. They have more freedom than before, but they are still effectively under the total dominion of the machines. Neo really just seems to have saved humanity from one slime pit, only to cast them into another slightly less smelly one.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The ending credits song "Navras", an extended version of "Neodammerung" (the song that plays as Neo fights the final form of Smith).
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The ending credits song "Navras", an extended version of "Neodammerung" (the song that plays as Neo fights the final form of Smith).
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** "I'm not ''so'' bad once you get to know me..."
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** "I'm not ''so'' "[[WouldHurtAChild I'm not]] ''[[WouldHurtAChild so]]'' [[WouldHurtAChild bad once you get to know me..."]]"
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** NarmCharm: Smith stating that "Cookies need love like everything does". Out of context, having him deliver this line sounds silly and kind of hilarious. ''In'' context, though, it's an IronicEcho to indicate that he just crossed the MoralEventHorizon by [[spoiler:assimilating [[WouldHurtAChild a child]]]], thus making it genuinely creepy.
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** Not enough is given to the Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he's become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see Smith!Bane's reactions to a real body; you can see a little bit when he's staring fascinated at his own cut hand.
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** Not enough is given to the Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he's become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see Smith!Bane's reactions to a real body; you can see a little bit when he's staring fascinated staring, fascinated, at his own cut hand.
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* {{Narm}}: When Smith!Bane is taunting Neo with his real identity once he's in the real world and Neo's figuring out who he is, Smith!Bane has this really weird and unintentionally funny, rambling monologue instructing Neo to "look past the flesh... and see your enemy." Even funnier is Smith!Bane's delivery of "dull cow eyes".
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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
** When Smith!Bane is taunting Neo with his real identity once he's in the real world and Neo's figuring out who he is, Smith!Bane has this really weird and unintentionally funny, rambling monologue instructing Neo to "look past the flesh... and see your enemy." Even funnier is Smith!Bane's delivery of "dull coweyes".eyes".
** [[spoiler:Trinity]]'s death scene. Note that the main complaint about the scene (its length) is a case of [[RealityIsUnrealistic reality being unrealistic]], since if anything she would have taken a lot ''longer'' to die in the real world, as the rods piercing her body would have plugged her wounds and slowed down her bleeding out. Even with that however, chances are she'd have been in far too much pain to give a long, dull speech.
** When Smith!Bane is taunting Neo with his real identity once he's in the real world and Neo's figuring out who he is, Smith!Bane has this really weird and unintentionally funny, rambling monologue instructing Neo to "look past the flesh... and see your enemy." Even funnier is Smith!Bane's delivery of "dull cow
** [[spoiler:Trinity]]'s death scene. Note that the main complaint about the scene (its length) is a case of [[RealityIsUnrealistic reality being unrealistic]], since if anything she would have taken a lot ''longer'' to die in the real world, as the rods piercing her body would have plugged her wounds and slowed down her bleeding out. Even with that however, chances are she'd have been in far too much pain to give a long, dull speech.
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** The film completely ignores how ''Reloaded'' ended with the strong implication that the supposed real world was just another computer program to keep anyone who happened to wake up from the Matrix under control. This also leaves Neo's abilities to use his powers in the real world as a major plot hole.
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* {{Narm}}: When Smith!Bane is taunting Neo with his real identity once he's in the real world and Neo's figuring out who he is, Smith!Bane has this really weird and unintentionally funny, rambling monologue instructing Neo to "look past the flesh... and see your enemy." Even funnier is Smith!Bane's delivery of "dull cow eyes".
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I finally realized what I don\'t like about that those sentences.
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** So little screentime is given to the Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he has become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see his reactions to the real world; you can see a little bit when he's staring fascinated at his own cut hand, but it's not enough.
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** So little screentime Not enough is given to the Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he has he's become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see his Smith!Bane's reactions to the a real world; body; you can see a little bit when he's staring fascinated at his own cut hand, but it's not enough.hand.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[http://bigdamnpictures.blogspot.com/2011/02/not-so-happy-happy-endings-part-2.html From a certain point of view...]] See the JustBugsMe page for more of this. (and [[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/10-minutes-after-end-the-matrix-trilogy/?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module this]], which also offers plenty of AlternateCharacterInterpretation given the ProtagonistCenteredMorality).
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[http://bigdamnpictures.blogspot.com/2011/02/not-so-happy-happy-endings-part-2.html From a certain point of view...]] See the JustBugsMe page for more of this. (and (And [[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/10-minutes-after-end-the-matrix-trilogy/?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module this]], which also offers plenty of AlternateCharacterInterpretation given the ProtagonistCenteredMorality).ProtagonistCenteredMorality.)
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* NightmareRetardant: Smith's EvilLaugh after the aforementioned MoralEventHorizon-crossing. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfrWchX5rAU It's just goofy.]]
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[http://bigdamnpictures.blogspot.com/2011/02/not-so-happy-happy-endings-part-2.html From a certain point of view...]] See the JustBugsMe page for more of this. (and [[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/10-minutes-after-end-the-matrix-trilogy/?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module this]], which also offers plenty of AlternateCharacterInterpretation given the ProtagonistCenteredMorality)
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[http://bigdamnpictures.blogspot.com/2011/02/not-so-happy-happy-endings-part-2.html From a certain point of view...]] See the JustBugsMe page for more of this. (and [[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/10-minutes-after-end-the-matrix-trilogy/?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module this]], which also offers plenty of AlternateCharacterInterpretation given the ProtagonistCenteredMorality)ProtagonistCenteredMorality).
* HeReallyCanAct: Ian Bliss does an amazing job of copying Weaving's/Smith's mannerisms and delivery.
* HeReallyCanAct: Ian Bliss does an amazing job of copying Weaving's/Smith's mannerisms and delivery.
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* OneSceneWonder: Rama-Khandra.
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* OneSceneWonder: Rama-Khandra.Rama-Khandra, and Persephone who in this movie only has ''one'' line.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The assault on Zion is ten kinds of epic. Too bad all the characters we actually care about are barely involved.
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** The assault on Zion is ten kinds of epic. Too bad all the characters we actually care about are barelyinvolved.involved.
** So little screentime is given to the Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he has become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see his reactions to the real world; you can see a little bit when he's staring fascinated at his own cut hand, but it's not enough.
** The assault on Zion is ten kinds of epic. Too bad all the characters we actually care about are barely
** So little screentime is given to the Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he has become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see his reactions to the real world; you can see a little bit when he's staring fascinated at his own cut hand, but it's not enough.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The ending credits song "Navras", an extended version of "Neodammerung" (the song that plays as Neo fights the final form of Agent Smith).
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Fetish Retardant applies to the other sequel, and Smith isn\'t an Agent in the sequels
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The assault on Zion is ten kinds of epic. Too bad all the characters we actually care about are barely involved.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[http://bigdamnpictures.blogspot.com/2011/02/not-so-happy-happy-endings-part-2.html From a certain point of view...]] See the JustBugsMe page for more of this. (and [[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/10-minutes-after-end-the-matrix-trilogy/?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=quickfix&wa_user4=feature_module this]], which also offers plenty of AlternateCharacterInterpretation given the ProtagonistCenteredMorality)
* FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene.
* MoralEventHorizon: For Agent Smith.
** "I'm not ''so'' bad once you get to know me..."
** "Cookies need love like everything does" was even more pants-shittingly evil.
-->'''Oracle:''' You are a bastard.
-->'''Smith:''' You would know, mom.
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* FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene.
* MoralEventHorizon: For Agent Smith.
** "I'm not ''so'' bad once you get to know me..."
** "Cookies need love like everything does" was even more pants-shittingly evil.
-->'''Oracle:''' You are a bastard.
-->'''Smith:''' You would know, mom.
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