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** There's an ''extremely'' common fan theory that Zira's banishment was due to murdering Simba and Nala's first born cub, Kopa, who appeared in the ''Six New Adventures'' books (whose canon is disputed rather heavily). While this has never been confirmed, it would explain Simba being so protective of Kiara...
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* FollowTheLeader: Many concepts, compositions and [[CaptainErsatz characters]] are notoriously similar to that of Osamu Tezuka's KimbaTheWhiteLion. Whenever a member of The Lion King production team speaks on the matter, the claim is usually that they hadn't heard of ''Kimba''. In the case of some individuals working on the film this may even be true, but to assert that no one one the film's huge production team had ever heard of ''Kimba'' is iffy at best. This is not helped by the fact that early production reels depicted Simba as a white lion, and there are several claims of people on staff mistakenly calling the film a remake of Kimba, or calling Simba by that name. Much of the controversy is documented [[http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm here]].

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* FollowTheLeader: Many concepts, compositions and [[CaptainErsatz characters]] are notoriously similar to that of Osamu Tezuka's KimbaTheWhiteLion. Whenever a member of The Lion King production team speaks on the matter, the claim is usually that they hadn't heard of ''Kimba''. In the case of some individuals working on the film this may even be true, but to assert that no one one the film's huge production team had ever heard of ''Kimba'' is iffy at best. This is not helped by the fact that some early production reels depicted Simba as a white lion, and there are several claims of people on staff mistakenly calling the film a remake of Kimba, or calling Simba by that name. Much of the controversy is documented [[http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm here]].name.
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** A ''lot'' of people really liked adolescent Simba, especially in the FurryFandom. (Not the way you're thinking. [[{{Squick}} Most of them]].)
* Fanon: many speculate that Sarafina is the lioness who tells Kiara, "My, how you've grown!" at one point in the movie. This is otherwise unconfirmed, however.

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** A ''lot'' of people really liked adolescent Simba, especially in the FurryFandom. (Not the way you're thinking. [[{{Squick}} Most of them]].)
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* Fanon: {{Fanon}}: many speculate that Sarafina is the lioness who tells Kiara, "My, how you've grown!" at one point in the movie. This is otherwise unconfirmed, however.

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*** Scar also has some notable parallels with Simba. Young Simba has an entire ''SONG'' dedicated to him proclaiming that when he's King he doesn't have to listen to anybody and "can do whatever I want". Later in the film Scar proclaims, "I'm the King! ''I can do whatever I want''"



*** Considering the hyenas have apparently been banished by Mufasa from the Pride Lands to the Elephant Graveyards, where there is little food, apparently hot gesyers and lava prevalent in places and is ulimately a barren wasteland, its very little wonder why they choose to throw in their lot with Scar. Whatever happened to respecting all animals equally, Mufasa?



** Timon and Pumbaa. Loveable slackers who save Simba's life and help him deal with his trauma, or two feckless wasters who encourage a vulnerable young boy to hide from his problems and responsibilities so he can stick around as their bodyguard?

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** Timon and Pumbaa. Loveable slackers who save Simba's life and help him deal with his trauma, or two feckless wasters who encourage a vulnerable young boy to hide from his problems and responsibilities so he can stick around as their bodyguard?bodyguard?H
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** Simba as well.
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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Simba's Pride'' and {{Mulan}} came out the same year (1998) and in each there's a moment where Kiara and Mulan are not being listened to:

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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Simba's Pride'' and {{Mulan}} ''{{Mulan}}'' came out the same year (1998) and in each there's a moment where Kiara and Mulan are not being listened to:
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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Simba's Pride'' and Disney/{{Mulan}} came out the same year (1998) and in each there's a moment where Kiara and Mulan are not being listened to:

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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Simba's Pride'' and Disney/{{Mulan}} {{Mulan}} came out the same year (1998) and in each there's a moment where Kiara and Mulan are not being listened to:
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** This was probably intentional considering the number of ShoutOuts in [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog that film.]]

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** This was probably intentional considering the number of ShoutOuts {{Shout Out}}s in [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog that film.]]
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* WallBanger: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.
** Not particularally, Pride Rock was surrounded by huge fire at the time that was spreading rapidly, and when he fell, the Hyenas were already on the rock from when he tried to pin the blame on them. If one looks, it's quite likely no one could get to Scar to help him.
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* {{Woolseyism}}: In the Spanish release of the film. In the scene where Banzai is kicked in the ribcage by Shenzie before he prounces the name of Mufasa again. In the original English dub he says "¿Qué pasa?", a Spanish line that means "What's up?". In the Spanish dub the line was dubbed as "¿Cón mostaza?" which means "With mustard?". This was likely done because of phonetic similarities.
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* {{Wallbanger}}: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.

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* {{Wallbanger}}: WallBanger: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.
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* HilariousInHindsight: ''Simba's Pride'' and Disney/{{Mulan}} came out the same year (1998) and in each there's a moment where Kiara and Mulan are not being listened to:
-->'''Kiara:''' Will someone just listen to me?\\
'''Timon:''' I'm sorry, I wasn't listening. Did you say something, princess?

-->'''Mulan:''' (to Mushu) No one will listen.\\
'''Mushu:''' I'm sorry, did you say something?\\
'''Mulan:''' Mushu!

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* {{Fanon}}: Simba and Nala's son from ''Six New Adventures'', Kopa. Also many speculate that Sarafina is the lioness who tells Kiara, "My, how you've grown!" at one point in the movie. This is otherwise unconfirmed, however.

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* {{Fanon}}: Simba and Nala's son from ''Six New Adventures'', Kopa. Also many speculate that Sarafina is the lioness who tells Kiara, "My, how you've grown!" at one point in the movie. This is otherwise unconfirmed, however.


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* {{Fanon}}: Simba and Nala's son from ''Six New Adventures'', Kopa.

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* {{Fanon}}: Simba and Nala's son from ''Six New Adventures'', Kopa. Also many speculate that Sarafina is the lioness who tells Kiara, "My, how you've grown!" at one point in the movie. This is otherwise unconfirmed, however.

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-->'''Mufasa:''' Scar! Brother! Help me!
-->[Scar grabs him with his claws, making him roar in pain]
-->'''Scar:''' (with a slow and creepy tone in his voice) [[PreMortemOneLiner Long...live...the king.]]
-->[[spoiler: [He then [[MoralEventHorizon threw Mufasa off a cliff]].]]]

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-->'''Ebert''': There have to be dark corners, [[NightmareFuel frightening moments]], and ancient archetypes like the crime of regicide. "The Lion King", which is a superbly drawn animated feature, is surprisingly solemn in its subject matter, and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids may even be too intense for very young children]].

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-->'''Ebert''': -->'''Ebert:''' There have to be dark corners, [[NightmareFuel frightening moments]], and ancient archetypes like the crime of regicide. "The Lion King", which is a superbly drawn animated feature, is surprisingly solemn in its subject matter, and [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids may even be too intense for very young children]].



* DudeNotFunny: An in-verse variation. Banzai is complaining about his injuries after the hyenas' scuffle with Mufasa, and Ed ticks Banzai off because he ''won't stop laughing''.
-->'''Banzai:''' It's not funny, Ed.\\
''(Ed tries briefly to stop before bursting out again)''\\
'''Banzai:''' Hey, shut up!
** Related to that, when Banzai falls into the thorns, the other two laugh at him. When Banzai starts pulling them out, he spits a few into Ed's face. Of course he doesn't dare spit any at Shenzi - she's his boss.



* MemeticMutation: "Mu-fasa!" "Oooooh! Do it again."




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* TheWoobie: The hyenas. Exiled in a crapsack territory by Mufasa and then wounded by the king who taught Simba "to respect all the creatures" (it seems that hyenas aren't ''even'' creatures...); abused by Scar during the Be Prepared sequence and later betrayed by their leader that blamed them for all his crimes in front of Simba; killed in numbers by Simba and the lionesses during the climactic battle (and ''even beaten by the calm, wise Rafiki'' as well); finally, badly hurt by a furious Pumbaa, ''only because "they call me Mister Pig!"''. Not surprising if many fans have a soft spot for them... It makes one think of the hyenas as a JerkassWoobie species. Considering what they go through, it's easier to pity them than to blame them for turning to Scar.



** Depending on how you view Zira's FreudianExcuse and how you view her AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, she may also qualify.

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** Depending on how you view Zira's FreudianExcuse and how you view her AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, she may also qualify.



* IronWoobie: Both Timon and Pumbaa. In Pumbaa's case, we already know he wasn't well-liked by the other animals because of his "problems" but he still looks on the world in an optimistic way and is usually cheerful and kind-hearted, well until someone calls him a "pig", which will make him cut loose. In Timon's case, we didn't really see him as a woobie until ''1½'', there it shows he wasn't really popular either in his former colony. Still, his desire to find a place where he's accepted for who he is makes him the {{Determinator}}.
* JerkassWoobie: Timon. If there was any doubt about his JerkWithAHeartOfGold status in the first film, his heartwarming-yet-grumpy efforts at parenting in this sequel cement it. And although Timon causes all of his own problems via his complete lack of meerkat instincts coupled with his ego, his desperation to find a dream home where he can be himself and be liked for it slides him just about into Woobieville.



* SpotlightStealingSquad: Lion King 1 1/2 is noticeably told more from Timon's perspective than Pumbaa's (possibly because Pumbaa's "origins" had already been touched upon in the original movie).



-->'''Simba''': I...I had a bad dream.

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* TheWoobie: Kovu, particularly after his HeelFaceTurn, when both the Pridelanders and Outlanders distrust and exile him. Kiara and Kovu both arguably qualify as this, what with their respective parents' resentment towards their respective lovers, but Kovu especially. At least Kiara was a bit more respected within her own family, even if it didn't show.
** Also, Nuka, in particular for his last line;
-->'''Nuka:''' Mother...I tried...
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: In the same vein as [[{{Gargoyles}} Demona]], Zira COULD be this, if you believe her FreudianExcuse and pity her enough for it.



-->"Without a queen, what am I? A dead end, no line, no descendants, no future. With a queen, I'll have... ''cubs!''"

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*** Telling Simba, right before he believed he was going to kill him, could've fit in it too. The way he saw it, he'd make Simba's last sight be staring into the eyes of his father's murderer and being unable to do anything about it.
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** Even more so in the deleted extended version where [[spoiler: Nuka actually asks with his last breath if Zira is finally proud of him.]]
** Depending on how you view Zira's FreudianExcuse and how you view her AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, she may also qualify.


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** She also does occasionally show compassion to her children up until [[spoiler: Nuka's]] death.


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** Zira's VillainSong, despite being about horrible things, is quite catchy.
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** Not particularally, Pride Rock was surrounded by huge fire at the time that was spreading rapidly, and when he fell, the Hyenas were already on the rock from when he tried to pin the blame on them. If one looks, it's quite likely no one could get to Scar to help him.
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* DudeNotFunny: An in-verse variation. Banzai is complaining about his injuries after the hyenas' scuffle with Mufasa, and Ed ticks Banzai off because he ''won't stop laughing''.
-->'''Banzai:''' It's not funny, Ed.\\
''(Ed tries briefly to stop before bursting out again)''\\
'''Banzai:''' Hey, shut up!
** Related to that, when Banzai falls into the thorns, the other two laugh at him. When Banzai starts pulling them out, he spits a few into Ed's face. Of course he doesn't dare spit any at Shenzi - she's his boss.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: There are more than a few people who view Scar as an AmbiguouslyGay DepravedHomosexual. The broadway play seems to play this up to extreme levels. Scar goes from scary angry dude to Paul Lynde turned psychopath.
** Mufasa. Noble, courageous king and loving father... or pompous {{Jerkass}} who threw his weight around to bully his little brother and who was raising his son to be as big a douche as he was?
** The hyenas. Nazis, or the oppressed underdogs just looking for food? Also, Shenzi, Banzai and Ed - friends, or family?
** Zazu. Mufasa's loyal advisor and careful supervisor of Simba during his childhood... or just the comical sidekick of both?
** Timon and Pumbaa. Loveable slackers who save Simba's life and help him deal with his trauma, or two feckless wasters who encourage a vulnerable young boy to hide from his problems and responsibilities so he can stick around as their bodyguard?
*** Most of these aren't really alternate interpretations; the main cast of the film are just pretty well-rounded characters (for Disney). The heroes have some flaws, the villains some virtues. I don't think it's spotting something the writers didn't intend to say that Mufasa's a little arrogant, Scar's quite sympathetic at points, and Zazu has a little more to him than being a comedy ButtMonkey.
*** As for Timon and Pumbaa, they're just outcasts simply because they were a klutzy screwup and a guy with farting problems. Timon and Pumbaa go by the philosophy of "If your life used to suck, just move on and be merry". They probably thought Simba went through the same sort of thing. They had no idea he was a young prince with responsibilities. Simba, being [[HeroicBSOD mentally scarred by his father's death]] and having been [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated by Scar]] took their philosophy, and abused it to the point of shirking his responsibilities. Not to mention a little bit of what Timon and Pumbaa had to offer was probably good for Simba at the time, considering before they found him he was a little kid drowning in guilt to the point of nearly letting himself die.



* DudeNotFunny: An in-verse variation. Banzai is complaining about his injuries after the hyenas' scuffle with Mufasa, and Ed ticks Banzai off because he ''won't stop laughing''.
-->'''Banzai:''' It's not funny, Ed.\\
''(Ed tries briefly to stop before bursting out again)''\\
'''Banzai:''' Hey, shut up!
** Related to that, when Banzai falls into the thorns, the other two laugh at him. When Banzai starts pulling them out, he spits a few into Ed's face. Of course he doesn't dare spit any at Shenzi - she's his boss.



* {{Fanon}}: Simba and Nala's son from ''Six New Adventures'', Kopa.
* FollowTheLeader: Many concepts, compositions and [[CaptainErsatz characters]] are notoriously similar to that of Osamu Tezuka's KimbaTheWhiteLion. Whenever a member of The Lion King production team speaks on the matter, the claim is usually that they hadn't heard of ''Kimba''. In the case of some individuals working on the film this may even be true, but to assert that no one one the film's huge production team had ever heard of ''Kimba'' is iffy at best. This is not helped by the fact that early production reels depicted Simba as a white lion, and there are several claims of people on staff mistakenly calling the film a remake of Kimba, or calling Simba by that name. Much of the controversy is documented [[http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm here]].
* FurryFandom: This movie is [[{{Understatement}} popular]] in it.
* HilariousInHindsight:
-->'''Pumbaa:''' Timon?\\
'''Timon:''' Yeah?\\
'''Pumbaa:''' Ever wonder what those sparkly dots are up there?\\
'''Timon:''' Pumbaa, I don't wonder, I know.\\
'''Pumbaa:''' Oh. What are they?\\
'''Timon:''' They're [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog fireflies. Fireflies that got stuck up in that]] [[BuffySpeak big bluish black thing]].
** This was probably intentional considering the number of ShoutOuts in [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog that film.]]




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* WinTheCrowd: If there was any doubt on how this film would do, the teaser using the entire "Circle of Life" sequence and the rapturous audience reaction to it settled them all.


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* AlasPoorVillain: Doubles as a TearJerker, you can't help it when [[spoiler: [[WellDoneSonGuy Nuka]] goes after Simba on the dam, whilst proclaiming "I'll do it four YOU MOTHER! -- I'll do it for you.. And I'll do it for ''me''!", and he inadvertedly gets dislodged, [[DisneyVillainDeath falls]] and manages to ask [[BigBad Zira]] "I'm sorry mother... I .. ''tried''.. " causing Zira to go from WhatHaveIDone to NeverMyFault under three seconds flat.]]
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Arguably the entire movie. Zira could be anything from a JerkassWoobie to a CompleteMonster, depending on how you interpret her FreudianExcuse.
* BrokenBase: To some, ''The Lion King II'' is a great extension of the series. To others, it's clunky and plothole-ridden.


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* HilariousInHindsight: "The Madness of King Scar", in light of the plot of the animated sequel that was released a year after the musical premiered.
-->"Without a queen, what am I? A dead end, no line, no descendants, no future. With a queen, I'll have... ''cubs!''"
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*** [[FridgeBrilliance Not necessarily. He was already aware that the hyenas' powers of retention were as wet as a warthog's backside. Perhaps he acknowledged that it was a possibility that the hyenas might have messed up their attempts to murder Simba, so Scar wanted to convince Simba into exile and all that as a backup plan.]]
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*** You know what makes that even worse? Scar had no idea that Simba would live. Tricking him into thinking it was his fault that his father died was all for his own pleasure, as were all the sick double-meaning phrases like 'Simba it's to die for'. He could have lied flat out and told him it was the best thing ever, but he came out with a sick 'not quite a lie' to make himself feel smarter than a cub barely a year old.
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* SuperlativeDubbing: Say hello to the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKo1krB6OJw Polish Dub]].

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** Zira, from the sequel, is '''probably''' this, since she is clearly cruel, remorseless, and irredeemable. She even LovesTheSoundOfScreaming. She also later in the movie does something that has her own followers defecting to the other side. Whether or not she qualifies, though, might depend on how you interpret her FreudianExcuse, and maybe on whether or not you consider her spitefulness a more respectable motive than Scar's greed.



** Even in comparison to the first movie, the sequel is arguably much more intense. The villain of this one is motivated primarily by spitefulness, whereas at least Scar had the semi-pragmatic motive of greed. Zira's VillainSong is almost entirely about how much she LovesTheSoundOfScreaming, and said song is considerably more vicious than Scar's VillainSong. In general, the very style of this movie is arguably much darker than the first movie, like during the fire scene, [[spoiler:wherein we see Kiara surrounded by flames, coughing from the smoke, and collapsing from exhaustion,]] or during Zira's first attack, [[spoiler:when Simba is being [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown mercilessly mauled by several other lions]],]] and then there is "He Is Not One Of Us" where the pridelanders are all announcing their intense hatred for Kovu, who is not even guilty of what they are all accusing him of in the first place.



** And in the sequel, Zira probably crosses this when [[spoiler:she threatens to kill her own daughter for refusing to take part in the attack on the pridelanders. Well, if she didn't cross it before then.]]



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* DracoInLeatherPants: Scar. Especially with the CMOA that is "Be Prepared". Cue endless fanfics with him as the hero.
** Shenzi and her pack. It sure doesn't hurt to have Whoopi Goldberg's talents.
* EarWorm: "I Just Can't Wait to be King" (and '''how''') and "Hakuna Matata". The chanting at the beginning of the movie may count.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Timon and Pumbaa, who are the stars of the AnimatedSeries and the {{Midquel}}, and the hyena trio as well.
** Mufasa and Scar both qualify...
* LargeHam: Scar and Timon.
** [[IncrediblyLamePun And Pumbaa]]. Well, [[AWorldwidePunomenon the hyenas certainly see him as one.]]



* {{Wallbanger}}: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.

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* SoCoolItsAwesome: The film is widely considered to be not only Disney's best animated feature, but the greatest animated film ever made.
* TearJerker: Mufasa's death.
* {{Wallbanger}}: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.holes.

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* CanonSue: Apparently, several years of more-or-less constant mental conditioning doesn't count for much when Kiara does her schpeil...
* CompleteMonster: Zira.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: While 1 1/2 could never outdo the original movie, particularly at this moment, the music which plays when Simba takes the throne is still pretty damn cool. It even retains the African chanting!
* EarWorm: "''In Upendiiiiiii...''"
** Dig a Tunnel, Dig, Dig a Tunnel...
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Vitani.
** A ''lot'' of people really liked adolescent Simba, especially in the FurryFandom. (Not the way you're thinking. [[{{Squick}} Most of them]].)
* HoYay: Timon and Pumbaa in 1 1/2.
* LoveItOrHateIt: 1 1/2 was actually pretty well received by critics as far as DTV Disney sequels go and those who do like it generally think of it as one of the better examples of such sequels. Those who ''don't'' like it typically really, really hate it.
* SuperlativeDubbing: Say hello to the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKo1krB6OJw Polish Dub]].
* TearJerker: Many fans got misty eyed when Nuka died and even more during "Not One of Us".
** From the growing-up montage in 1 1/2, [[FridgeBrilliance once you realize]] it must have been referring to the stampede sequence and Mufasa's death:
-->'''Simba''': I...I had a bad dream.

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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: There were much cheering around the world when it was revealed a Lion King World would be included in KingdomHearts2.
* ThatOneLevel: The console game features a waterfall in the 'Hakuna Matata' level that is a ''real'' pain in the butt to climb.
** There's also the very annoying puzzles with the monkeys in level 2 and the tricky ostrich rides between them.
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** Even in comparison to the first movie, the sequel is arguably much more intense. The villain of this one is motivated more by spitefulness than by greed. Her VillainSong is almost entirely about how much she LovesTheSoundOfScreaming, and said song is considerably more vicious than Scar's VillainSong. In general, the very style of this movie is arguably much darker than the first movie, like during the fire scene, wherein we see Kiara surrounded by flames, coughing from the smoke, and collapsing from exhaustion, or during Zira's first attack, when Simba is being [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown mercilessly mauled by several other lions]]. Then there is "He Is Not One Of Us" where the pridelanders are all announcing their intense hatred for Kovu, who is not even guilty of what they are all accusing him of in the first place.

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** Even in comparison to the first movie, the sequel is arguably much more intense. The villain of this one is motivated more primarily by spitefulness than by spitefulness, whereas at least Scar had the semi-pragmatic motive of greed. Her Zira's VillainSong is almost entirely about how much she LovesTheSoundOfScreaming, and said song is considerably more vicious than Scar's VillainSong. In general, the very style of this movie is arguably much darker than the first movie, like during the fire scene, wherein [[spoiler:wherein we see Kiara surrounded by flames, coughing from the smoke, and collapsing from exhaustion, exhaustion,]] or during Zira's first attack, when [[spoiler:when Simba is being [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown mercilessly mauled by several other lions]]. Then lions]],]] and then there is "He Is Not One Of Us" where the pridelanders are all announcing their intense hatred for Kovu, who is not even guilty of what they are all accusing him of in the first place.
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* Wallbanger: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.

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* Wallbanger: {{Wallbanger}}: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.
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* NightmareFuel: See [[NightmareFuel/{{Disney}} the Disney section]].

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* NightmareFuel: See [[NightmareFuel/{{Disney}} the Disney section]].section]].
* Wallbanger: The revelation in the sequel that there were actually ''lots'' of lionesses on Scar's side...and yet, absolutely none of them turned up at any point to help him in the original film. Ah, sequel-induced plot holes.

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