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* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous work]] or not, it is certainly better received.
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* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} [[Literature/TheTwilightSaga previous work]] or not, it is certainly better received.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: ''The Host'' is an odd case. It was marketed as Creator/StephenieMeyer's first adult-oriented novel, though a lot of people assumed it was Young Adult, especially because Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous, better-known series]] was aimed at teens (even some media outlets got confused about this, mistakenly referring to it as a YA novel) and there's no content that's particularly inappropriate for teens, either. It's worth noting that none of the main protagonists are teens: Melanie is 21 and her love interest Jared is ''30'', while Wanderer's love interest Ian is also in his mid 20s and Wanderer is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld technically centuries old]]. Admittedly, the main plot's combination of a love triangle and a rebellion against a tyrannical sci-fi government was a popular premise for YA fiction at the time, Wanderer ends up inhabiting the body of a 17 year old girl [[spoiler:permanently]], and then-18 year old Creator/SaoirseRonan was cast as Melanie/Wanderer in the [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]], all of which may have added to the perception ''The Host'' was YA.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: ''The Host'' is an odd case. It was marketed as Creator/StephenieMeyer's first adult-oriented novel, though a lot of people assumed it was Young Adult, especially because Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} [[Literature/TheTwilightSaga previous, better-known series]] was aimed at teens (even some media outlets got confused about this, mistakenly referring to it as a YA novel) and there's no content that's particularly inappropriate for teens, either. It's worth noting that none of the main protagonists are teens: Melanie is 21 and her love interest Jared is ''30'', while Wanderer's love interest Ian is also in his mid 20s and Wanderer is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld technically centuries old]]. Admittedly, the main plot's combination of a love triangle and a rebellion against a tyrannical sci-fi government was a popular premise for YA fiction at the time, Wanderer ends up inhabiting the body of a 17 year old girl [[spoiler:permanently]], and then-18 year old Creator/SaoirseRonan was cast as Melanie/Wanderer in the [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]], all of which may have added to the perception ''The Host'' was YA.
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** This isn't the first time Creator/EmilyBrowning was approached for an role in one of Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} book]] [[WhatCouldHaveBeen adaptations]]; she was considered for the role of Bella Swan.
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** This isn't the first time Creator/EmilyBrowning was approached for an role in one of Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} [[Literature/Twilight2005 book]] [[WhatCouldHaveBeen adaptations]]; she was considered for the role of Bella Swan.
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* FandomRivalry: With ''Literature/{{Animorphs}},'' which also uses {{Puppeteer Parasite}} villains with a good helping of GrayingMorality.
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* DeathOfTheAuthor: Wanderer and Ian's love story is intended to have a message that true love is about who a person is rather than what they look like, given that Wanderer isn't even human [[spoiler:and completely changes her body]] yet they still develop feelings for each other. Both the book and movie ends with [[spoiler:Wanda getting her own body and being able to finally be with Ian]], which is treated as a happy outcome. However, multiple reviewers make the point that [[spoiler:both Wanda's old body and new body are described as attractive]], which makes the relationship between Ian and Wanda seem more based off physical appearances rather than genuine love. These reviewers further point out it doesn't help that [[spoiler:Wanda seriously considers lying to Ian that her new body is biologically 18 (the body is 17, Ian is about 25) so they don't have to wait for sex]], which some readers think not only further makes the relationship seem more like infatuation/lust than love, but has some unpleasant implications.
* FandomRivalry: With ''Literature/{{Animorphs}},'' which also uses {{Puppeteer Parasite}} villains with a good helping of GrayingMorality. ''Animorphs'' fans tend to look down on ''The Host'' as being an inferior take on the premise that is more preoccupied with romance than anything else. People who like ''The Host'' argue that beyond some superficial similarities, the stories are very different and don't have an issue with romance taking the center stage.
* FandomRivalry: With ''Literature/{{Animorphs}},'' which also uses {{Puppeteer Parasite}} villains with a good helping of GrayingMorality. ''Animorphs'' fans tend to look down on ''The Host'' as being an inferior take on the premise that is more preoccupied with romance than anything else. People who like ''The Host'' argue that beyond some superficial similarities, the stories are very different and don't have an issue with romance taking the center stage.
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** The first meeting between Jared and Melanie. Sure, he was exhilarated to find another survivor after being alone for so long. But planting a kiss on a girl ''quite literally'' seconds after he meets her is bizarre at best and assault at worst.
* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous work]] or not, it is certainly better received.
* MisaimedFandom: The ending of the book and movie ends with [[spoiler:Wanda getting her own body and being able to finally be with Ian. Multiple reviewers make a point that Wanda's new body is relatively attractive, which makes the relationship with Ian and Wanda more based off physical appearances rather than genuine loving.]]
* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous work]] or not, it is certainly better received.
* MisaimedFandom: The ending of the book and movie ends with [[spoiler:Wanda getting her own body and being able to finally be with Ian. Multiple reviewers make a point that Wanda's new body is relatively attractive, which makes the relationship with Ian and Wanda more based off physical appearances rather than genuine loving.]]
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** The first meeting between Jared and Melanie. Sure, he was exhilarated to find another survivor after being alone for so long. But planting a kiss on a girl ''quite literally'' seconds after he meets her is bizarre at best and assault at worst.
worst (especially considering Melanie is ''much'' younger than him).
* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous work]] or not, it is certainly betterreceived.
* MisaimedFandom: The ending of the book and movie ends with [[spoiler:Wanda getting her own body and being able to finally be with Ian. Multiple reviewers make a point that Wanda's new body is relatively attractive, which makes the relationship with Ian and Wanda more based off physical appearances rather than genuine loving.]]received.
* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous work]] or not, it is certainly better
* MisaimedFandom: The ending of the book and movie ends with [[spoiler:Wanda getting her own body and being able to finally be with Ian. Multiple reviewers make a point that Wanda's new body is relatively attractive, which makes the relationship with Ian and Wanda more based off physical appearances rather than genuine loving.]]
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* CriticalBacklash. The movie has been near-universally panned by critics and currently holds a score of 9% on Rotten Tomatoes. Moviegoers' reactions have been rather more mixed.
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* CriticalBacklash. CriticalDissonance: The movie has been near-universally panned by critics and currently holds a meagre score of 9% 10% on Rotten Tomatoes. Tomatoes, with many critic reviews finding it either unbearably tedious and/or unintentionally funny. Moviegoers' reactions have been rather more mixed.mixed, with a 50% audience score on RT and 5.8/10 on [=IMDb=]. Unlike critics, most audiences don't find the movie to be a complete disaster and argue that it has its good points, though it's generally agreed it's [[SoOkayItsAverage not the most memorable film]]. Some audiences felt that the movie [[CriticalBacklash got reviewed more harshly than it deserved]] due to the negative association with ''Twilight''.
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** This isn't the first time Creator/EmilyBrowning was approached for an role in one of Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} book]] [[WhatCouldHaveBeen adaptations]].adaptations]]; she was considered for the role of Bella Swan.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The book has a lot of room to be really, really good, what with benevolent aliens taking over the world, the divide between what's ruled by your body and what's determined by your mind, the difference between Wanda's love for Ian (purely mind, since she doesn't have a body) and Melanie's love for Jared (more body, since her mind is overpowered by Wanda's), the morality of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans... it could have been really awesome if it hadn't been eaten by the weak beginning and worse ending.
** WebVideo/CinematicExcrement considers [[spoiler: Wanda getting the body of an attractive woman this, pointing out that the relationship between Ian and Wanda would've been more interesting if she had gotten the body of a less attractive woman or a guy instead]].
** WebVideo/CinematicExcrement considers [[spoiler: Wanda getting the body of an attractive woman this, pointing out that the relationship between Ian and Wanda would've been more interesting if she had gotten the body of a less attractive woman or a guy instead]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** The book has a lot of room to be really, really good, what with benevolent aliens taking over the world, the divide between what's ruled by your body and what's determined by your mind, the difference between Wanda's love for Ian (purely mind, since she doesn't have a body) and Melanie's love for Jared (more body, since her mind is overpowered by Wanda's), the morality of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans... it could have been really awesome if it hadn't been eaten by the weak beginning and worse ending.
** WebVideo/CinematicExcrement considers[[spoiler: Wanda [[spoiler:Wanda getting the body of an attractive woman this, pointing out that the relationship between Ian and Wanda would've been more interesting if she had gotten the body of a less attractive woman or a guy instead]].
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: ''The Host'' is an odd case. It was marketed as Creator/StephenieMeyer's first adult-oriented novel, though a lot of people assumed it was Young Adult, especially because Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous, better-known series]] was aimed at teens (even some media outlets got confused about this, mistakenly referring to it as a YA novel) and there's no content that's particularly inappropriate for teens, either. It's worth noting that none of the main protagonists are teens: Melanie is 21 and her love interest Jared is ''30'', while Wanderer's love interest Ian is also in his mid 20s and Wanderer is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld technically centuries old]]. Admittedly, the main plot's combination of a love triangle and a rebellion against a tyrannical sci-fi government was a popular premise for YA fiction at the time, Wanderer ends up inhabiting the body of a 17 year old girl [[spoiler:permanently]], and then-18 year old Creator/SaoirseRonan was cast as Melanie/Wanderer in the [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]], all of which may have added to the perception ''The Host'' was YA.
** The book has a lot of room to be really, really good, what with benevolent aliens taking over the world, the divide between what's ruled by your body and what's determined by your mind, the difference between Wanda's love for Ian (purely mind, since she doesn't have a body) and Melanie's love for Jared (more body, since her mind is overpowered by Wanda's), the morality of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans... it could have been really awesome if it hadn't been eaten by the weak beginning and worse ending.
** WebVideo/CinematicExcrement considers
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: ''The Host'' is an odd case. It was marketed as Creator/StephenieMeyer's first adult-oriented novel, though a lot of people assumed it was Young Adult, especially because Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous, better-known series]] was aimed at teens (even some media outlets got confused about this, mistakenly referring to it as a YA novel) and there's no content that's particularly inappropriate for teens, either. It's worth noting that none of the main protagonists are teens: Melanie is 21 and her love interest Jared is ''30'', while Wanderer's love interest Ian is also in his mid 20s and Wanderer is [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld technically centuries old]]. Admittedly, the main plot's combination of a love triangle and a rebellion against a tyrannical sci-fi government was a popular premise for YA fiction at the time, Wanderer ends up inhabiting the body of a 17 year old girl [[spoiler:permanently]], and then-18 year old Creator/SaoirseRonan was cast as Melanie/Wanderer in the [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptation]], all of which may have added to the perception ''The Host'' was YA.
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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Wanda, while possessing Melanie’s body, makes out with Ian while Melanie is screaming, “No! Stop!” in her head. If they’d had sex, they both would’ve been effectively raping Melanie.
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* {{Narm}}: Turns out having your main character be a prisoner in her own body, who spends most of the story impotently screaming at the person controlling it, is rather silly to see on film.
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** Turns out having your main character be a prisoner in her own body, who spends most of the story impotently screaming at the person controlling it, is rather silly to see on film.
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* WhatAnIdiot: How does the Seeker notice one of the shelter's supply teams? Because Brandt [[TooDumbToLive decided to lower the guard]] and make the truck run faster than the other vehicles in the road. Sure, Brandt, it's not like you're trying to save what is likely one of the few remains of humanity, all you had to do was not increasing the speed. YOU HAD ''ONE'' JOB. As a result, he and Aaron commit suicide to avoid capture.
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!!The Creator/StephenieMeyer book:
* FandomRivalry: With ''Literature/{{Animorphs}},'' which also uses {{Puppeteer Parasite}} villains with a good helping of GrayingMorality.
* {{Glurge}}
** The ending of the book has things looking better for Wanda and the human survivors. [[spoiler:Wanda can stay in the body of a human (who would have died without her and, unlike other hosts, is actually "gone"), the group finds more survivors, and Wanda can be with Ian while Melanie can be with Jared. That, however, loses some of its happy ending vibes when Wanda mentions that she ''still'' has feelings for Jared even outside of Melanie's body. It kind of puts a damper on her and Ian's relationship and makes it feel more like she's just settling with him.]]
** The first meeting between Jared and Melanie. Sure, he was exhilarated to find another survivor after being alone for so long. But planting a kiss on a girl ''quite literally'' seconds after he meets her is bizarre at best and assault at worst.
* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous work]] or not, it is certainly better received.
* MisaimedFandom: The ending of the book and movie ends with [[spoiler:Wanda getting her own body and being able to finally be with Ian. Multiple reviewers make a point that Wanda's new body is relatively attractive, which makes the relationship with Ian and Wanda more based off physical appearances rather than genuine loving.]]
* SlowPacedBeginning: Several reviewers have commented that the beginning is weaker than the rest of the novel.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Mentioning this book in ''{{Literature/Animorphs}}'' or ''[[Series/StargateSG1 Stargate]]'' fan circles is generally a bad idea.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The book has a lot of room to be really, really good, what with benevolent aliens taking over the world, the divide between what's ruled by your body and what's determined by your mind, the difference between Wanda's love for Ian (purely mind, since she doesn't have a body) and Melanie's love for Jared (more body, since her mind is overpowered by Wanda's), the morality of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans... it could have been really awesome if it hadn't been eaten by the weak beginning and worse ending.
** WebVideo/CinematicExcrement considers [[spoiler: Wanda getting the body of an attractive woman this, pointing out that the relationship between Ian and Wanda would've been more interesting if she had gotten the body of a less attractive woman or a guy instead]].
!! The 2013 film based on the Stephenie Meyer book:
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Radioactive" by Music/ImagineDragons in the trailer.
* CriticalBacklash. The movie has been near-universally panned by critics and currently holds a score of 9% on Rotten Tomatoes. Moviegoers' reactions have been rather more mixed.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Stephenie stated that ''{{Film/Gattaca}}'' is one of her favorite films. Guess who later directed and wrote the screenplay for ''The Host''?
** This isn't the first time Creator/EmilyBrowning was approached for an role in one of Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} book]] [[WhatCouldHaveBeen adaptations]].
* {{Narm}}: Turns out having your main character be a prisoner in her own body, who spends most of the story impotently screaming at the person controlling it, is rather silly to see on film.
** One of the narmiest scenes of all is a kiss scene with Melanie objecting to Wanda kissing Ian. It plays almost like ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000''.
* WhatAnIdiot: How does the Seeker notice one of the shelter's supply teams? Because Brandt [[TooDumbToLive decided to lower the guard]] and make the truck run faster than the other vehicles in the road. Sure, Brandt, it's not like you're trying to save what is likely one of the few remains of humanity, all you had to do was not increasing the speed. YOU HAD ''ONE'' JOB. As a result, he and Aaron commit suicide to avoid capture.
* FandomRivalry: With ''Literature/{{Animorphs}},'' which also uses {{Puppeteer Parasite}} villains with a good helping of GrayingMorality.
* {{Glurge}}
** The ending of the book has things looking better for Wanda and the human survivors. [[spoiler:Wanda can stay in the body of a human (who would have died without her and, unlike other hosts, is actually "gone"), the group finds more survivors, and Wanda can be with Ian while Melanie can be with Jared. That, however, loses some of its happy ending vibes when Wanda mentions that she ''still'' has feelings for Jared even outside of Melanie's body. It kind of puts a damper on her and Ian's relationship and makes it feel more like she's just settling with him.]]
** The first meeting between Jared and Melanie. Sure, he was exhilarated to find another survivor after being alone for so long. But planting a kiss on a girl ''quite literally'' seconds after he meets her is bizarre at best and assault at worst.
* GrowingTheBeard: On the author's part. Whether you consider ''The Host'' to be better than Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} previous work]] or not, it is certainly better received.
* MisaimedFandom: The ending of the book and movie ends with [[spoiler:Wanda getting her own body and being able to finally be with Ian. Multiple reviewers make a point that Wanda's new body is relatively attractive, which makes the relationship with Ian and Wanda more based off physical appearances rather than genuine loving.]]
* SlowPacedBeginning: Several reviewers have commented that the beginning is weaker than the rest of the novel.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Mentioning this book in ''{{Literature/Animorphs}}'' or ''[[Series/StargateSG1 Stargate]]'' fan circles is generally a bad idea.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The book has a lot of room to be really, really good, what with benevolent aliens taking over the world, the divide between what's ruled by your body and what's determined by your mind, the difference between Wanda's love for Ian (purely mind, since she doesn't have a body) and Melanie's love for Jared (more body, since her mind is overpowered by Wanda's), the morality of UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans... it could have been really awesome if it hadn't been eaten by the weak beginning and worse ending.
** WebVideo/CinematicExcrement considers [[spoiler: Wanda getting the body of an attractive woman this, pointing out that the relationship between Ian and Wanda would've been more interesting if she had gotten the body of a less attractive woman or a guy instead]].
!! The 2013 film based on the Stephenie Meyer book:
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Radioactive" by Music/ImagineDragons in the trailer.
* CriticalBacklash. The movie has been near-universally panned by critics and currently holds a score of 9% on Rotten Tomatoes. Moviegoers' reactions have been rather more mixed.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Stephenie stated that ''{{Film/Gattaca}}'' is one of her favorite films. Guess who later directed and wrote the screenplay for ''The Host''?
** This isn't the first time Creator/EmilyBrowning was approached for an role in one of Meyer's [[Literature/{{Twilight}} book]] [[WhatCouldHaveBeen adaptations]].
* {{Narm}}: Turns out having your main character be a prisoner in her own body, who spends most of the story impotently screaming at the person controlling it, is rather silly to see on film.
** One of the narmiest scenes of all is a kiss scene with Melanie objecting to Wanda kissing Ian. It plays almost like ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000''.
* WhatAnIdiot: How does the Seeker notice one of the shelter's supply teams? Because Brandt [[TooDumbToLive decided to lower the guard]] and make the truck run faster than the other vehicles in the road. Sure, Brandt, it's not like you're trying to save what is likely one of the few remains of humanity, all you had to do was not increasing the speed. YOU HAD ''ONE'' JOB. As a result, he and Aaron commit suicide to avoid capture.
