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* BizarroEpisode: The crew of the ''Enterprise'' is schmoozing with what appears to be a pre-warp culture, when Wesley knocks over an outdoor decoration and is sentenced to death. And even though the Prime Directive didn't prevent them from making contact with this planet, all of a sudden it prevents Picard from saving Wesley. With no mention of the concept of diplomatic immunity. For no plot-relevant reason whatsoever, the inhabitants of this planet all dress in barely-their loincloths and have a preoccupation with sex. Rumor has it that Creator/GeneRoddenberry added this to the plot after they changed the planet from a floating military fortress housing incredibly xenophobic aliens to an idyllic paradise. Because naturally Paradise means EveryoneHasLotsOfSex.
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* BizarroEpisode: The crew of the ''Enterprise'' is schmoozing with what appears to be a pre-warp culture, when Wesley knocks over an outdoor decoration and is sentenced to death. And even though the Prime Directive didn't prevent them from making contact with this planet, all of a sudden it prevents Picard from saving Wesley. With no mention of the concept of diplomatic immunity. For no plot-relevant reason whatsoever, the inhabitants of this planet all dress in barely-their barely-there loincloths and have a preoccupation with sex. Rumor has it that Creator/GeneRoddenberry added this to the plot after they changed the planet from a floating military fortress housing incredibly xenophobic aliens to an idyllic paradise. Because naturally Paradise means EveryoneHasLotsOfSex.
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About unused not poorly used plots.
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* BizarroEpisode: The crew of the ''Enterprise'' is schmoozing with what appears to be a pre-warp culture, when Wesley knocks over an outdoor decoration and is sentenced to death. And even though the Prime Directive didn't prevent them from making contact with this planet, all of a sudden it prevents Picard from saving Wesley. With no mention of the concept of diplomatic immunity. For no plot-relevant reason whatsoever, the inhabitants of this planet all dress in barely-there loincloths and have a preoccupation with sex. Rumor has it that Creator/GeneRoddenberry added this to the plot after they changed the planet from a floating military fortress housing incredibly xenophobic aliens to an idyllic paradise. Because naturally Paradise means EveryoneHasLotsOfSex.
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* BizarroEpisode: The crew of the ''Enterprise'' is schmoozing with what appears to be a pre-warp culture, when Wesley knocks over an outdoor decoration and is sentenced to death. And even though the Prime Directive didn't prevent them from making contact with this planet, all of a sudden it prevents Picard from saving Wesley. With no mention of the concept of diplomatic immunity. For no plot-relevant reason whatsoever, the inhabitants of this planet all dress in barely-there barely-their loincloths and have a preoccupation with sex. Rumor has it that Creator/GeneRoddenberry added this to the plot after they changed the planet from a floating military fortress housing incredibly xenophobic aliens to an idyllic paradise. Because naturally Paradise means EveryoneHasLotsOfSex.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** The finished episode's message is a good one, but wrapped up in an absolutely ridiculous story.
** Earlier drafts of the script were, at least if the synopses are anything to go by, far more interesting than what made it to air. Instead of the bizarre TOS-throwback story that we actually got, it was a grim and gritty tale about a planet torn apart by civil war, that had been forced to adopt an AllCrimesAreEqual system of law to maintain any semblance of order.
** The finished episode's message is a good one, but wrapped up in an absolutely ridiculous story.
** Earlier drafts of the script were, at least if the synopses are anything to go by, far more interesting than what made it to air. Instead of the bizarre TOS-throwback story that we actually got, it was a grim and gritty tale about a planet torn apart by civil war, that had been forced to adopt an AllCrimesAreEqual system of law to maintain any semblance of order.
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** The finished episode's message is a good one, but wrapped up in an absolutely ridiculous story.
** Earlier drafts of the script were, at least if the synopses are anything to go by, far more interesting than what made it to air. Instead of the bizarre TOS-throwback story that we actually got, it was a grim and gritty tale about a planet torn apart by civil war, that had been forced to adopt an AllCrimesAreEqual system of law to maintain any semblance of order.
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Yar claims to have researched the laws of Edo yet later reveals they listed nothing about punishment. She also seems to have learned all this during drinks with the Edo, even bragging to Worf about the lack of crime while being completely unaware of the draconian punishment for the smallest crime.
** Picard spends an enormous amount of time wangsting about how the Edo god will react to his actions regarding Wesley and how he can justify his actions to the people of Edo. But there's no reason to suspect the Edo god will judge them at all, particularly considering the obviously child like values of the Edo. There's no reason to suspect simply staging a phony death wouldn't suffice.
** Yar claims to have researched the laws of Edo yet later reveals they listed nothing about punishment. She also seems to have learned all this during drinks with the Edo, even bragging to Worf about the lack of crime while being completely unaware of the draconian punishment for the smallest crime.
** Picard spends an enormous amount of time wangsting about how the Edo god will react to his actions regarding Wesley and how he can justify his actions to the people of Edo. But there's no reason to suspect the Edo god will judge them at all, particularly considering the obviously child like values of the Edo. There's no reason to suspect simply staging a phony death wouldn't suffice.
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** Yar claims to have researched the laws of Edo yet later reveals they listed nothing about punishment. She also seems to have learned all this during drinks with the Edo, even bragging to Worf about the lack of crime while being completely unaware of the draconian punishment for the smallest crime.
** Picard spends an enormous amount of time wangsting about how the Edo god will react to his actions regarding Wesley and how he can justify his actions to the people of Edo. But there's no reason to suspect the Edo god will judge them at all, particularly considering the obviously child like values of the Edo. There's no reason to suspect simply staging a phony death wouldn't suffice.
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** Yar claims to have researched the laws of Edo yet later reveals they listed nothing about punishment. She also seems to have learned all this during drinks with the Edo, even bragging to Worf about the lack of crime while being completely unaware of the draconian punishment for the smallest crime.
** Picard spends an enormous amount of time wangsting about how the Edo god will react to his actions regarding Wesley and how he can justify his actions to the people of Edo. But there's no reason to suspect the Edo god will judge them at all, particularly considering the obviously child like values of the Edo. There's no reason to suspect simply staging a phony death wouldn't suffice.
** Yar claims to have researched the laws of Edo yet later reveals they listed nothing about punishment. She also seems to have learned all this during drinks with the Edo, even bragging to Worf about the lack of crime while being completely unaware of the draconian punishment for the smallest crime.
** Picard spends an enormous amount of time wangsting about how the Edo god will react to his actions regarding Wesley and how he can justify his actions to the people of Edo. But there's no reason to suspect the Edo god will judge them at all, particularly considering the obviously child like values of the Edo. There's no reason to suspect simply staging a phony death wouldn't suffice.
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Recap Pages shouldn't spoil things that happen after the recapped episode.
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* HarsherInHindsight: When he explains himself, Wesley says "I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie." In "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]", after he'd officially entered Starfleet Academy, Wesley gets reprimanded for trying to cover-up an accidental death.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** The episode's moral that laws cannot be treated as absolute and unerring without themselves becoming unjust comes across this way when in later years Picard (along with [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Janeway]]) would frequently insist that the Prime Directive is absolutely immutable and cannot be broken under any circumstances whatsoever.
** There is a scene in which an Edo woman starts to consider Captain Picard to be a god, because the ''Enterprise'' is sharing its orbit with ''their'' god. Picard then makes it very clear that no, he is not a god. Flash forward to "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E4WhoWatchesTheWatchers Who Watches the Watchers]]" in season 3, in which Picard has a decisively harder time to convince the members of a pre-warp civilization that he is in fact not a god.
** Worf tells Riker rather emphatically how he could only ever have a Klingon woman as a LoveInterest. Later in TNG, he dates Troi. And then ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' happened.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** The episode's moral that laws cannot be treated as absolute and unerring without themselves becoming unjust comes across this way when in later years Picard (along with [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Janeway]]) would frequently insist that the Prime Directive is absolutely immutable and cannot be broken under any circumstances whatsoever.
** There is a scene in which an Edo woman starts to consider Captain Picard to be a god, because the ''Enterprise'' is sharing its orbit with ''their'' god. Picard then makes it very clear that no, he is not a god. Flash forward to "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E4WhoWatchesTheWatchers Who Watches the Watchers]]" in season 3, in which Picard has a decisively harder time to convince the members of a pre-warp civilization that he is in fact not a god.
** Worf tells Riker rather emphatically how he could only ever have a Klingon woman as a LoveInterest. Later in TNG, he dates Troi. And then ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' happened.
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** When he explains himself, Wesley says "I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie." In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty}} The First Duty]]", after he'd officially entered Starfleet Academy, Wesley gets reprimanded for trying to cover-up an accidental death.
** When he explains himself, Wesley says "I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie." In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty}} The First Duty]]", after he'd officially entered Starfleet Academy, Wesley gets reprimanded for trying to cover-up an accidental death.
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* HarsherInHindsight:
**HarsherInHindsight: When he explains himself, Wesley says "I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie." In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty}} "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty The First Duty]]", after he'd officially entered Starfleet Academy, Wesley gets reprimanded for trying to cover-up an accidental death.
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** "I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie." sounds ridiculously naive even for TheWesley in a first season ST:TNG episode.
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** "I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie." sounds ridiculously naive even for TheWesley Wesley in a first season ST:TNG episode.
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I removed two of the Harsher in Hindsight examples. One of these was about how Picard being willing to interfere to save Wesley would look hypocritical based on his later actions. Possibly this example could apply if reworded but currently the wording only explains why Picard looks like a hypocrite and not why the events of this episode come across as harsher retroactively. The other example was about how in the episode the Edo are shown running without adequate foot support and that older views and the athletically inclined will notice this. It’s not clear to me what the hindsight aspect is to this example is since older views and the athletically inclined could have noticed this on the day the episode aired and nothing that’s happened since, either in the show or out (at least that was noted in the example), should have changed the interpretation.
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** Picard's decision to get involved with the Edo and fight their legal system to save Wesley, remarking that letting a member of his ship die was never what the Prime Directive intended. This makes him look like a huge hypocrite in later episodes when he preaches that the Prime Directive means that they don't get involve with pre-warp civilization, not even to save them from mass extinction.
** Older viewers and those who are athletically inclined will notice this one: The Edo are in "perfect physical condition" because they run everywhere (a common misconception: doctors say brisk walking and/or swimming are better). They're wearing slippers with absolutely no support, and they're running on hard surfaced pathways. Yeah, that's gonna bite 'em in the butt in a few years.
** Older viewers and those who are athletically inclined will notice this one: The Edo are in "perfect physical condition" because they run everywhere (a common misconception: doctors say brisk walking and/or swimming are better). They're wearing slippers with absolutely no support, and they're running on hard surfaced pathways. Yeah, that's gonna bite 'em in the butt in a few years.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Sure, Picard may have broken one of the cardinal rules of Starfleet by interfering with the laws of a non-Federation world just to save the life one child aboard his ship. But considering the child in question is Dr. Crusher's son, he probably didn't want to face her wrath if he had let her son die. Alternatively, Picard's desperation to save Wesley may stem from the guilt he still carries from losing Beverly's husband under his command; he didn't want to lose her ''son'' on top of that.
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** Worf tells Riker rather emphatically how he could only ever have a Klingon woman as a LoveInterest. Then ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' happened.
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** Worf tells Riker rather emphatically how he could only ever have a Klingon woman as a LoveInterest. Then Later in TNG, he dates Troi. And then ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]'' happened.
