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* InformedWrongness: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them.[[note]]True to form, the knowledge that "at cost" is less than 25% of his usual price means he normally ridiculously overcharges for it and was just lowering his profit margin.[[/note]] The nagus may be a DirtyOldMan, but he was making an extremely generous offer and was treated like a con artist for it. To be fair, he had already offered it as a gift and was also just testing how much the Bajorans/Federation were going to let him get away with.
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* ValuesDissonance: To play up their sexism, the Ferengi are repeatedly shown groping women, even after the victims have made it clear it's unwelcome. (It's not just Zek pinching Kira; Quark attempts to fondle Jadzia in the teaser.) This wasn't really acceptable when the episode originally aired in 1993, but it's become far more problematic after a few decades.
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* ValuesDissonance: To play up their sexism, the Ferengi are repeatedly shown The Ferengi's habit of groping women, even after the victims have made it clear it's unwelcome. (It's not just Zek pinching Kira; women is played for lighthearted comedy, with Quark attempts to fondle Jadzia in the teaser.) This wasn't really acceptable when the episode originally aired in 1993, but it's become far characterized as a lovable scamp and Zek as a harmless DirtyOldMan. In more problematic after a few decades.
modern times, such sexual assault is treated much more seriously and would likely be used for stronger KickTheDog moments.
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* InformedWrongness: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them.[[note]]True to form, the knowledge that "at cost" is less than 25% of his usual price means he normally ridiculously overcharges for it and was just lowering his profit margin.[[/note]] The nagus may be a DirtyOldMan, but he was making an extremely generous offer and was treated like a con artist for it.
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* InformedWrongness: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them.[[note]]True to form, the knowledge that "at cost" is less than 25% of his usual price means he normally ridiculously overcharges for it and was just lowering his profit margin.[[/note]] The nagus may be a DirtyOldMan, but he was making an extremely generous offer and was treated like a con artist for it. To be fair, he had already offered it as a gift and was also just testing how much the Bajorans/Federation were going to let him get away with.
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* ValuesDissonance: To play up their sexism, the Ferengi are repeatedly shown groping women, even after the victims have made it clear it's unwelcome. (It's not just Zek pinching Kira; Quark attempts to fondle Jadzia in the teaser.) This wasn't really acceptable when the episode originally aired in 1993, but it's become far more problematic after a few decades.
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* ValuesDissonance: To play up their sexism, the Ferengi are repeatedly shown groping women, even after the victims have made it clear it's unwelcome. (It's not just Zek pinching Kira; Quark attempts to fondle Jadzia in the teaser.) This wasn't really acceptable when the episode originally aired in 1993, but it's become far more problematic after a few decades.decades.
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true, but it was still a huge price markdown. Also, more apt trope
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them. DirtyOldMan he may be, but the Nagus was making an extremely generous offer and he was treated like a con artist for it. In fact, unless his profit margins were unrealistically high (most real world businesses hover around or below 10%), he ''was'' basically giving it to them free either way, he was just adjusting how ''much'' free stuff he was giving (i.e. how much of the costs to him were covered by the miniscule price he gave them).
** Zek selling the fertilizer at cost is pretty generous, but consider: if that price is below 25% of his normal price, that means he normally charges a profit margin of '''more than 75%'''. (Which does sound pretty Ferengi-like.)
** Zek selling the fertilizer at cost is pretty generous, but consider: if that price is below 25% of his normal price, that means he normally charges a profit margin of '''more than 75%'''. (Which does sound pretty Ferengi-like.)
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: InformedWrongness: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them. DirtyOldMan [[note]]True to form, the knowledge that "at cost" is less than 25% of his usual price means he normally ridiculously overcharges for it and was just lowering his profit margin.[[/note]] The nagus may be, be a DirtyOldMan, but the Nagus he was making an extremely generous offer and he was treated like a con artist for it. In fact, unless his profit margins were unrealistically high (most real world businesses hover around or below 10%), he ''was'' basically giving it to them free either way, he was just adjusting how ''much'' free stuff he was giving (i.e. how much of the costs to him were covered by the miniscule price he gave them).
** Zek selling the fertilizer at cost is pretty generous, but consider: if that price is below 25% of his normal price, that means he normally charges a profit margin of '''more than 75%'''. (Which does sound pretty Ferengi-like.)
** Zek selling the fertilizer at cost is pretty generous, but consider: if that price is below 25% of his normal price, that means he normally charges a profit margin of '''more than 75%'''. (Which does sound pretty Ferengi-like.)
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** Zek selling the fertilizer at cost is pretty generous, but consider: if that price is below 25% of his normal price, that means he normally charges a profit margin of '''more than 75%'''. (Which does sound pretty Ferengi-like.)
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The episode opens with Pel telling Quark about sand peas that make people thirsty so they drink more, which would boost profits at his bar. The main plot of the episode concerns the two securing a trade negotiation for tula berries to make wine, but the idea never occurs to either of them to bring sand peas into things in any way, such as offering the peas to the Dosi so ''they'' can make more profit, too.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The episode opens with Pel telling Quark about sand peas that make people thirsty so they drink more, which would boost profits at his bar. The main plot of the episode concerns the two securing a trade negotiation for tula berries to make wine, but the idea never occurs to either of them to bring sand peas into things in any way, such as offering the peas to the Dosi so ''they'' can make more profit, too.too.
* ValuesDissonance: To play up their sexism, the Ferengi are repeatedly shown groping women, even after the victims have made it clear it's unwelcome. (It's not just Zek pinching Kira; Quark attempts to fondle Jadzia in the teaser.) This wasn't really acceptable when the episode originally aired in 1993, but it's become far more problematic after a few decades.
* ValuesDissonance: To play up their sexism, the Ferengi are repeatedly shown groping women, even after the victims have made it clear it's unwelcome. (It's not just Zek pinching Kira; Quark attempts to fondle Jadzia in the teaser.) This wasn't really acceptable when the episode originally aired in 1993, but it's become far more problematic after a few decades.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them. DirtyOldMan he may be, but the Nagus was making an extremely generous offer and he was treated like a con artist for it.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them. DirtyOldMan he may be, but the Nagus was making an extremely generous offer and he was treated like a con artist for it. In fact, unless his profit margins were unrealistically high (most real world businesses hover around or below 10%), he ''was'' basically giving it to them free either way, he was just adjusting how ''much'' free stuff he was giving (i.e. how much of the costs to him were covered by the miniscule price he gave them).
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them. DirtyOldMan he may be, but the Nagus was making an extremely generous offer and he was treated like a con artist for it.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost" before Sisko convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the Ferengi we're talking about, profit is everything to them. DirtyOldMan he may be, but the Nagus was making an extremely generous offer and he was treated like a con artist for it.it.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The episode opens with Pel telling Quark about sand peas that make people thirsty so they drink more, which would boost profits at his bar. The main plot of the episode concerns the two securing a trade negotiation for tula berries to make wine, but the idea never occurs to either of them to bring sand peas into things in any way, such as offering the peas to the Dosi so ''they'' can make more profit, too.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The episode opens with Pel telling Quark about sand peas that make people thirsty so they drink more, which would boost profits at his bar. The main plot of the episode concerns the two securing a trade negotiation for tula berries to make wine, but the idea never occurs to either of them to bring sand peas into things in any way, such as offering the peas to the Dosi so ''they'' can make more profit, too.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost." However, Sisko insists that he give it as a gift. When you consider that 25% of the usual cost was apparently still enough to turn a profit, it becomes clear that there are huge profit margins for the product. This implies both that 1) It's scarce, and 2) The Nagus could have made a tremendous amount selling it elsewhere. The bargain he gave them seems pretty damned fair.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers to give the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Peninsula") as a "gift" to try and get into Kira's good graces. After she accepts, he clarifies he'll sell it to them for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost." However, cost" before Sisko insists that he convinces him to keep true to his original offer and give it as to them for free. No matter his motivation for doing it, ''anyone'' who is willing to sell a gift. When you consider that product at 25% of its original price is giving you a pretty sweet deal, and this is the usual cost was apparently still enough to turn a profit, it becomes clear that there are huge Ferengi we're talking about, profit margins for is everything to them. DirtyOldMan he may be, but the product. This implies both that 1) It's scarce, and 2) The Nagus could have made a tremendous amount selling it elsewhere. The bargain was making an extremely generous offer and he gave them seems pretty damned fair.was treated like a con artist for it.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Pennisula") for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost." However, Sisko insists that he give it as a gift. When you consider that 25% of the usual cost was apparently still enough to turn a profit, it becomes clear that there are huge profit margins for the product. This implies both that 1) It's scarce, and 2) The Nagus could have made a tremendous amount selling it elsewhere. The bargain he gave them seems pretty damned fair.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Pennisula") Peninsula") for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost." However, Sisko insists that he give it as a gift. When you consider that 25% of the usual cost was apparently still enough to turn a profit, it becomes clear that there are huge profit margins for the product. This implies both that 1) It's scarce, and 2) The Nagus could have made a tremendous amount selling it elsewhere. The bargain he gave them seems pretty damned fair.
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* HoYay: This episode is notable as containing one of the few explicit references to homosexuality in the franchise, when Dax figures out that Pel is in love with Quark, and is ''then'' surprised to learn that she's a woman. Of course, a Trill would have a bit of a different view on this kind of thing.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The Nagus initially offers the Bajorans a huge amount of fertilizer (enough for the entire "Northern Pennisula") for "a quarter the usual price," and then offers it "at cost." However, Sisko insists that he give it as a gift. When you consider that 25% of the usual cost was apparently still enough to turn a profit, it becomes clear that there are huge profit margins for the product. This implies both that 1) It's scarce, and 2) The Nagus could have made a tremendous amount selling it elsewhere. The bargain he gave them seems pretty damned fair.
