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* HarsherInHindsight: Enina asks Jadzia to live "a long, fresh and wonderful life." [[spoiler: Jadzia is murdered just five years later]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: Enina asks Jadzia to live "a long, fresh and wonderful life." [[spoiler: [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS06E26TearsOfTheProphets Jadzia is murdered just five years later]].later]]]].
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** Bashir's DoggedNiceGuy behavior around Dax probably came off as cute when the episode first aired, but it comes across is stalkerish to modern viewers. His advances are politely but unmistakably declined, and he persists because she doesn't explicitly tell him to fuck off.

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** Bashir's DoggedNiceGuy behavior around Dax probably came off as cute when the episode first aired, but it comes across is stalkerish to modern viewers. His advances are politely but unmistakably declined, and he persists because she doesn't explicitly tell him to fuck off.off.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Enina asks Jadzia to live "a long, fresh and wonderful life." [[spoiler: Jadzia is murdered just five years later]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: At first, it may seem strange that Trill does not have any legal precedent regarding the issue at hand. Yes, joined trills are supposed to be their society's best and brightest, but surely someone has committed a crime at some point. And indeed, that is what we discover during [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS03E04Equilibrium "Equilibrium"]] with the Symbiosis Commission's cover-up of Joran Dax's murders. It's likely that they do not want any legal records made public regarding criminal acts of joined trills for fear that it will cast suspicion on their charade (and also suggests that the expert they sent to the hearing was as much for their benefit as Jadzia's).
* HarsherInHindsight: Enina tells Jadzia to have a long and wonderful life. [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS06E26TearsOfTheProphets Yeah, about that...]]
* RewatchBonus: It's unclear whether Bashir's augmentation was planned at this point, but if so, the way Bashir breaks eye contact the moment after he's complimented for his accomplishments as such a young age could be seen as guilt over his true identity.
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* RewatchBonus: It's unclear whether Bashir's augmentation was written into the script at this point, but if so, the way Bashir breaks eye contact the moment after he's complimented for his accomplishments as such a young age could be seen as guilt over his true identity.

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* RewatchBonus: It's unclear whether Bashir's augmentation was written into the script planned at this point, but if so, the way Bashir breaks eye contact the moment after he's complimented for his accomplishments as such a young age could be seen as guilt over his true identity.
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** Sisko is committed to preventing Dax from standing trial and dictates to his staff that this is their official position, even if they encounter evidence that supports the "wrong" position. This is portrayed as loyalty. However, his behavior bumps uncomfortably against the real-world [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence Blue Wall of Silence]], in which people in authority (typically police officers, but the concept exists elsewhere) will protect their comrades from prosecution regardless of whether the charges are valid. Further, Sisko is never shown to be wrong for taking this stance.

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** Sisko is committed to preventing Dax from standing trial and dictates to his staff that this is their official position, even if they encounter evidence that supports the "wrong" position. This is portrayed as loyalty. However, his behavior bumps uncomfortably against the real-world [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence Blue Wall of Silence]], in which people in authority (typically police officers, but the concept practice also exists elsewhere) will protect their comrades from prosecution regardless of whether the charges are valid. Further, Sisko is never shown to be wrong for taking this stance.

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* {{Narm}}: Sisko countering the salt water analogy with how you can boil off the water and put the salt in a new liquid, as if legal precedent in the Federation is dependent on metaphors being completely literal. (Granted, a bit after this, Sisko openly admits to Dax that he is ''completely'' out of arguments and you can get the sense that the water turnabout was a hail mary by itself, but still.)
** Especially since it doesn't hold up. The symbiote is influenced by its host and vice versa, as would be repeatedly shown later. That would be like boiling off the water and getting a water-salt hybrid.

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* {{Narm}}: RewatchBonus: It's unclear whether Bashir's augmentation was written into the script at this point, but if so, the way Bashir breaks eye contact the moment after he's complimented for his accomplishments as such a young age could be seen as guilt over his true identity.
* ValuesDissonance:
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Sisko countering is committed to preventing Dax from standing trial and dictates to his staff that this is their official position, even if they encounter evidence that supports the salt water analogy with how you can boil off "wrong" position. This is portrayed as loyalty. However, his behavior bumps uncomfortably against the water and put real-world [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence Blue Wall of Silence]], in which people in authority (typically police officers, but the salt in a new liquid, as if legal precedent in concept exists elsewhere) will protect their comrades from prosecution regardless of whether the Federation is dependent on metaphors being completely literal. (Granted, a bit after this, charges are valid. Further, Sisko openly admits is never shown to Dax that be wrong for taking this stance.
** Odo abuses his authority as constable to extort Quark into closing his business for several days. While his actions are portrayed as heavy-handed,
he is ''completely'' out of arguments and you can get remains a sympathetic character. In the sense that the water turnabout was a hail mary by itself, but still.)
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decades since the episode aired, however, the abuse of authority by police officers has become an ever-increasing hot-button issue, rendering Odo's actions much less sympathetic to modern eyes.
** Bashir's DoggedNiceGuy behavior around Dax probably came off as cute when the episode first aired, but
it comes across is stalkerish to modern viewers. His advances are politely but unmistakably declined, and he persists because she doesn't hold up. The symbiote is influenced by its host and vice versa, as would be repeatedly shown later. That would be like boiling off the water and getting a water-salt hybrid.explicitly tell him to fuck off.
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* {{Narm}}: Sisko countering the salt water analogy with how you can boil off the water and put the salt in a new liquid, as if legal precedent in the Federation is dependent on metaphors being completely literal.

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* {{Narm}}: Sisko countering the salt water analogy with how you can boil off the water and put the salt in a new liquid, as if legal precedent in the Federation is dependent on metaphors being completely literal. (Granted, a bit after this, Sisko openly admits to Dax that he is ''completely'' out of arguments and you can get the sense that the water turnabout was a hail mary by itself, but still.)
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* HarsherInHindsight: Enina tells Jadzia to have a long and wonderful life. [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS06E26TearsOfTheProphets Yeah, about that...]]
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* {{Narm}}: Sisko countering the salt water analogy with how you can boil off the water and put the salt in a new liquid, as if legal precedent in the Federation is dependent on metaphors being completely literal.

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* {{Narm}}: Sisko countering the salt water analogy with how you can boil off the water and put the salt in a new liquid, as if legal precedent in the Federation is dependent on metaphors being completely literal.literal.
** Especially since it doesn't hold up. The symbiote is influenced by its host and vice versa, as would be repeatedly shown later. That would be like boiling off the water and getting a water-salt hybrid.
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* FridgeBrilliance: At first, it may seem strange that Trill does not have any legal precedent regarding the issue at hand. Yes, joined trills are supposed to be their society's best and brightest, but surely someone has committed a crime at some point. And indeed, that is what we discover during [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS03E04Equilibrium Equilibrium]] with the Symbiosis Commission's cover-up of Joran Dax's murders. It's likely that they do not want any legal records made public regarding criminal acts of joined trills for fear that it will cast suspicion on their charade (and also suggests that the expert they sent to the hearing was as much for their benefit as Jadzia's).

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* FridgeBrilliance: At first, it may seem strange that Trill does not have any legal precedent regarding the issue at hand. Yes, joined trills are supposed to be their society's best and brightest, but surely someone has committed a crime at some point. And indeed, that is what we discover during [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS03E04Equilibrium Equilibrium]] "Equilibrium"]] with the Symbiosis Commission's cover-up of Joran Dax's murders. It's likely that they do not want any legal records made public regarding criminal acts of joined trills for fear that it will cast suspicion on their charade (and also suggests that the expert they sent to the hearing was as much for their benefit as Jadzia's).
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* FridgeBrilliance: At first, it may seem strange that Trill does not have any legal precedent regarding the issue at hand. Yes, joined trills are supposed to be their society's best and brightest, but surely someone has committed a crime at some point. And indeed, that is what we discover during [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS03E04Equilibrium Equilibrium]] with the Symbiosis Commission's cover-up of Joran Dax's murders. It's likely that they do not want any legal records made public regarding criminal acts of joined trills for fear that it will cast suspicion on their charade (and also suggests that the expert they sent to the hearing was as much for their benefit as Jadzia's).
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* {{Narm}}: Sisko countering the salt water analogy with how you can boil off the water and put the salt in a new liquid, as if legal precedent in the Federation is dependent on metaphors being completely literal.

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