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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}'' and ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win (due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being a rare 2D animated film winner), others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time due to the film's divisive reception and [[ConsolationAward only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.

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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and most of the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}'' and ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron''), (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win (due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being a rare only the second 2D animated film winner), to win, others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time due to the film's divisive reception and that he [[ConsolationAward only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}'' and ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win (due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being a rare 2D animated film winner), others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time due to the film's divisive reception and [[ConsolationPrize only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.

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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}'' and ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win (due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being a rare 2D animated film winner), others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time due to the film's divisive reception and [[ConsolationPrize [[ConsolationAward only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as Spiderverse's to lose. With the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), to screwed by execs so it really had no chance (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice to say many were shocked when ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. With many accusing the Academy of giving it as a pseudo Lifetime Achievement Award for Miyazaki.

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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as Spiderverse's ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to lose. With win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}'' and ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron''), to screwed by execs so it really had no never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. With many accusing While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the Academy loss and were happy to see the film win (due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being a rare 2D animated film winner), others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time due to the film's divisive reception and [[ConsolationPrize only got it because of giving it as his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a pseudo Lifetime Achievement Award for Miyazaki.result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.
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** Before the film was released, the [[https://comicbook.com/movies/news/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-miles-morales-gwen-stacy-love-story/ confirmation]] that there will be a romance between Gwen and Miles as well a LoveTriangle between the two and Spider-Punk turned off quite a few fans who would rather have the two stay strictly as friends as was mostly the case in the first film, outside of some brief ShipTease. This was also a result of Gwen/Miles being a [[BrokenBase controversial pairing]] in the comics due to Gwen being Peter's dead girlfriend in the 616 continuity, as well as being older than Miles [[note]]even though they are the same age in the film[[/note]]. There were also concerns that the LoveTriangle subplot would [[RomanticPlotTumor bring down the rest of the film]]. Thankfully, the love triangle ended up being more downplayed than what people were expecting. Gwen and Hobie are close but neither appears to be interested romantically in the other, there are only a few instances of mild jealousy which are PlayedForLaughs and quickly dropped, and Miles and Hobie end up being on very good terms. Gwen and Miles ironically became a very popular pairing following the release of the film where they're given believable chemistry and a well-written slow-burn romance (they're also given a good amount of angst and a cliffhanger separation, which certainly appealed to many) and their dynamic have little in common with the comics.

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** Before the film was released, the [[https://comicbook.com/movies/news/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-miles-morales-gwen-stacy-love-story/ confirmation]] that there will be a romance between Gwen and Miles as well a LoveTriangle between the two and Spider-Punk turned off quite a few some fans who would rather have the two stay strictly as friends as was mostly the case in the first film, outside of some brief ShipTease. This was also a result of Gwen/Miles being a [[BrokenBase controversial pairing]] in the comics due to Gwen being Peter's dead girlfriend in the 616 continuity, as well as being older than Miles [[note]]even though they are the same age in the film[[/note]]. There were Some fans also concerns mistakenly believed that the there would be a LoveTriangle subplot based on director's commentary that Miles would be jealous of Gwen's closeness with Hobie, and were concerned that it would [[RomanticPlotTumor bring down the rest of the film]]. Thankfully, In the film proper, however, there isn't really a love triangle ended up being more downplayed than what people were expecting.to speak of. Gwen and Hobie are close but neither appears to be interested romantically in the other, there are only a few instances of mild jealousy which are PlayedForLaughs and quickly dropped, and Miles and Hobie end up being on very good terms. Gwen and Miles ironically became a very popular pairing following the release of the film where they're given believable chemistry and a well-written slow-burn romance (they're also given a good amount of angst and a cliffhanger separation, which certainly appealed became [[TrueArtIsAngsty part of the appeal]] [[UnresolvedSexualTension to many) many]]), and their dynamic have little in common with the comics.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as Spiderverse's to lose. With the competition ranging from obscure (WesternAnimation/RobotDreams), to divisive (WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}), to screwed by execs so it really had no chance (WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}). Suffice to say many were shocked when Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron swiped the award. With many accusing the Academy of giving it as a pseudo Lifetime Achievement Award for Miyazaki.

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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as Spiderverse's to lose. With the competition ranging from obscure (WesternAnimation/RobotDreams), (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}), (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), to screwed by execs so it really had no chance (WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}). (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice to say many were shocked when Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. With many accusing the Academy of giving it as a pseudo Lifetime Achievement Award for Miyazaki.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as Spiderverse's to lose. With the competition ranging from obscure (WesternAnimation/RobotDreams), to divisive (WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}), to screwed by execs so it really had no chance (WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}). Suffice to say many were shocked when Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron swiped the award. With many accusing the Academy of giving it as a pseudo Lifetime Achievement Award for Miyazak.

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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as Spiderverse's to lose. With the competition ranging from obscure (WesternAnimation/RobotDreams), to divisive (WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}), to screwed by execs so it really had no chance (WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}). Suffice to say many were shocked when Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron swiped the award. With many accusing the Academy of giving it as a pseudo Lifetime Achievement Award for Miyazak.Miyazaki.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as Spiderverse's to lose. With the competition ranging from obscure (WesternAnimation/RobotDreams), to divisive (WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}), to screwed by execs so it really had no chance (WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}). Suffice to say many were shocked when Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron swiped the award. With many accusing the Academy of giving it as a pseudo Lifetime Achievement Award for Miyazak.
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** When the Spot [[OneWingedAngel reaches his]] [[HumanoidAbomination full power]], his color scheme [[PaletteSwap inverts]] and he becomes a [[DarkIsEvil shadowy array of black ink-like lines]] that warps the area around him into psychedelic distortions. The design is so alien that it's even reminiscient of how [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann the Anti-Spiral]] is animated, causing the Spot to have a big NonstandardCharacterDesign at this point, showing just how powerful he's become.

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** When the Spot [[OneWingedAngel reaches his]] [[HumanoidAbomination full power]], his color scheme [[PaletteSwap inverts]] and he becomes a [[DarkIsEvil shadowy array of black ink-like lines]] that warps the area around him into psychedelic distortions. The design is so alien that it's even reminiscient reminiscent of how [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann the Anti-Spiral]] is animated, causing the Spot to have a big NonstandardCharacterDesign at this point, showing just how powerful he's become.
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** When the Spot [[OneWingedAngel reaches his]] [[HumanoidAbomination full power]], his color scheme [[PaletteSwap inverts]] and he becomes a [[DarkIsEvil shadowy array of black ink-like lines]] that warps the area around him into psychedelic distortions.

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** When the Spot [[OneWingedAngel reaches his]] [[HumanoidAbomination full power]], his color scheme [[PaletteSwap inverts]] and he becomes a [[DarkIsEvil shadowy array of black ink-like lines]] that warps the area around him into psychedelic distortions. The design is so alien that it's even reminiscient of how [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann the Anti-Spiral]] is animated, causing the Spot to have a big NonstandardCharacterDesign at this point, showing just how powerful he's become.

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** While [[spoiler: The Prowler of Earth-42]] is a small role who has very little screentime, the combination of awesome design and [[spoiler: being an EvilCounterpart to Miles himself mentored by Aaron]] ''instantly'' made waves in the fandom.
* FandomRivalry: ''Across The Spider-Verse'' shared fairly one-sided rivalries and comparisons to both ''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental|2023}}'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}'' (being an animated film ''and'' superhero film with an emphasis on the multiverse, respectively), with the majority of support being in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor due to [[WesternAnimation/Elemental2023 the former]] being from rival studio Creator/{{Pixar}} and [[Film/TheFlash2023 the latter]] suffering from middling reviews and [[TroubledProduction controversies surrounding]] [[Creator/EzraMiller the film's lead.]] Things only got more vitriolic and swayed in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor when ''The Flash'' [[BoxOfficeBomb severely underperformed at the box office]] while ''Spider-Verse'' made nearly $700 million worldwide. It didn't help that ''Spider-Verse'' and ''The Flash'' turned out to have diametrically opposed themes of ScrewDestiny vs. YouCantFightFate, the latter of which has been argued to be tone-deaf in the cultural zeitgeist ''The Flash'' was released in and handled far less competently than ''Spider-Verse's'' themes.

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** While [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:the Prowler of Earth-42]] is a small role who has very little screentime, the combination of awesome design and [[spoiler: being [[spoiler:being an EvilCounterpart to Miles himself mentored by Aaron]] ''instantly'' made waves in the fandom.
* FandomRivalry: ''Across The the Spider-Verse'' shared fairly one-sided rivalries and comparisons to both ''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental|2023}}'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}'' (being an animated film ''and'' superhero film with an emphasis on the multiverse, respectively), with the majority of support being in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor due to [[WesternAnimation/Elemental2023 the former]] being from rival studio Creator/{{Pixar}} and [[Film/TheFlash2023 the latter]] suffering from middling reviews and [[TroubledProduction controversies surrounding]] [[Creator/EzraMiller the film's lead.]] Things only got more vitriolic and swayed in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor when ''The Flash'' [[BoxOfficeBomb severely underperformed under-performed at the box office]] while ''Spider-Verse'' made nearly $700 million worldwide. It didn't help that ''Spider-Verse'' and ''The Flash'' turned out to have diametrically opposed themes of ScrewDestiny vs. YouCantFightFate, the latter of which has been argued to be tone-deaf in the cultural zeitgeist ''The Flash'' was released in and handled far less competently than ''Spider-Verse's'' themes.



** As [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwr-5xdqr0o this video]] points out, there are many who prefer the theatrical version where Gwen panicks out loud when Miles is trapped under rubble in Mumbattan, versus the digital version where her panicking has been muted instead.

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** As [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwr-5xdqr0o this video]] points out, there are many who prefer the theatrical version where Gwen panicks panics out loud when Miles is trapped under rubble in Mumbattan, versus the digital version where her panicking has been muted instead.



** It's pretty common to speculate that the reason why Noir, Ham, or other certain, popular Spider-People aren't seen as part of the Spider-Society is because [[spoiler:they would vehemently oppose Miguel's maintenance of "Canon Events", so Miguel either failed to convince them or Miguel correctly predicted that they would not be on board and didn't bother. Some people think that if he met the likes of [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Tobey's Spider-Man]], [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries the 90s cartoon Spider-Man]], or ''especially'' the one from ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManEdgeOfTime Edge of Time]]'' (that version of Peter Parker directly chewed out his Miguel for this kind of thinking), he would not survive the philosophical debate.]] This is also commonly thought to be the reason why [[Series/SpiderManJapan Takuya Yamashiro]] isn't present; he's such a non-traditional Spider-Man that [[spoiler:his mere existence blows a hole in Miguel's theory about canon events]].

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** It's pretty common to speculate that the reason why Noir, Ham, or other certain, popular Spider-People aren't seen as part of the Spider-Society is because [[spoiler:they would vehemently oppose Miguel's maintenance of "Canon Events", so Miguel either failed to convince them or Miguel correctly predicted that they would not be on board and didn't bother. Some people think that if he met the likes of [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Tobey's Spider-Man]], [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries the 90s '90s cartoon Spider-Man]], or ''especially'' the one from ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManEdgeOfTime Edge of Time]]'' (that version of Peter Parker directly chewed out his Miguel for this kind of thinking), he would not survive the philosophical debate.]] This is also commonly thought to be the reason why [[Series/SpiderManJapan Takuya Yamashiro]] isn't present; he's such a non-traditional Spider-Man that [[spoiler:his mere existence blows a hole in Miguel's theory about canon events]].



* GeniusBonus: The version of the Vulture from an universe based on the Italian Renaissance fought in the prologue is actually very fitting: not only was the very first version of the Vulture in ''ComicBook/HumanTorch1939'', Isidoro Scarlotti, an Italian inventor, UsefulNotes/LeonardoDaVinci also famously studied flight through many years and based several of his invention ideas on that, sketching ornithopters and wingsuits. Furthermore, the Vulture's gadgets are references to Leonardo's own sketches and books: he is often surrounded by notes written in reverse, just like what Leonardo did to his annotations, and his bombs are directly based on Leonardo's aerial screw sketch.

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* GeniusBonus: The version of the Vulture from an universe based on the Italian Renaissance fought in the prologue is actually very fitting: not only was the very first version of the Vulture in ''ComicBook/HumanTorch1939'', ''ComicBook/{{Human Torch|1939}}'', Isidoro Scarlotti, an Italian inventor, UsefulNotes/LeonardoDaVinci also famously studied flight through many years and based several of his invention ideas on that, sketching ornithopters and wingsuits. Furthermore, the Vulture's gadgets are references to Leonardo's own sketches and books: he is often surrounded by notes written in reverse, just like what Leonardo did to his annotations, and his bombs are directly based on Leonardo's aerial screw sketch.



** Hobie Brown/Pavitr Prabhakar is chaipunk..

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** Hobie Brown/Pavitr Prabhakar is chaipunk..chaipunk.



* SpiritualAdaptation: A [[{{Metafiction}} metafictional]] story about a society of pre-existing superheroes from different genres, medias and demographics that come together to fight a supervillain who acquires a cosmic power that could doom entire worlds? While made by Marvel, this might also double as an adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheMultiversity.''
** Speaking of Creator/GrantMorrison, the Spot brings to mind [[ComicBook/TheInvisibles the demon Orlando]]: Both are [[VillainInAWhiteSuit white]] {{Humanoid Abomination}} with an obsession to beat one of the main characters and whose natural appearanca has visible sketch lines. Their personalities, however, [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain couldn't be]] [[PsychoForHire more different.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: Miguel's "Fixed Canon" Theory and the literal universe-shattering ramifications of averting the life-defining tragedy in a hero's backstory sounds an awful lot like the plot of the ''[[WesternAnimation/WhatIf2021 What If…?]]'' episode "[[Recap/WhatIfS1E4WhatIfDoctorStrangeLostHisHeartInsteadOfHisHands What If... Doctor Strange Lost His Heart Instead of His Hands?]]", where a variant of [[Characters/MCUStephenStrange Earth-199999 Doctor Strange]] tried to avert the tragic death of his love-interest, only for this to result in a RealityBreakingParadox that destroys the universe. Considering the nature of the Spider-Verse, this may have actually happened within the ''Across the Spider-Verse's'' established multiverse, Strange Supreme's destroyed universe being used as an example of what could happen if the Spider-Society doesn't uphold canon.

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A [[{{Metafiction}} metafictional]] {{metafiction}}al story about a society of pre-existing superheroes from different genres, medias and demographics that come together to fight a supervillain who acquires a cosmic power that could doom entire worlds? While made by Marvel, this might also double as an adaptation of ''ComicBook/TheMultiversity.''
''ComicBook/TheMultiversity''.
** Speaking of Creator/GrantMorrison, the Spot brings to mind [[ComicBook/TheInvisibles the demon Orlando]]: Both are [[VillainInAWhiteSuit white]] {{Humanoid Abomination}} with an obsession to beat one of the main characters and whose natural appearanca appearance has visible sketch lines. Their personalities, however, [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain couldn't be]] [[PsychoForHire more different.]]
* SpiritualSuccessor: Miguel's "Fixed Canon" Theory and the literal universe-shattering ramifications of averting the life-defining tragedy in a hero's backstory sounds an awful lot like the plot of the ''[[WesternAnimation/WhatIf2021 What If…?]]'' If...?]]'' episode "[[Recap/WhatIfS1E4WhatIfDoctorStrangeLostHisHeartInsteadOfHisHands What If... Doctor Strange Lost His Heart Instead of His Hands?]]", where a variant of [[Characters/MCUStephenStrange Earth-199999 Doctor Strange]] tried to avert the tragic death of his love-interest, only for this to result in a RealityBreakingParadox that destroys the universe. Considering the nature of the Spider-Verse, this may have actually happened within the ''Across the Spider-Verse's'' established multiverse, Strange Supreme's destroyed universe being used as an example of what could happen if the Spider-Society doesn't uphold canon.



** While many are excited about the Spider-Verse being featured in its full glory after only a tiny glimpse was shown in the first film, there were some concerns from the trailers that the film could potentially be too cluttered, leading to it being unbalanced and dragged down by too much fanservice at the expense of further developing Miles and his story, which wasn't as much of a concern in the first film due to its smaller, tightly-knit cast.

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** While many are excited about the Spider-Verse being featured in its full glory after only a tiny glimpse was shown in the first film, there were some concerns from the trailers that the film could potentially be too cluttered, leading to it being unbalanced and dragged down by too much fanservice at the expense of further developing Miles and his story, which wasn't as much of a concern in the first film due to its smaller, tightly-knit tightly knit cast.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** [[Characters/MarvelComicsScarletSpider Ben Reilly]] makes an appearance with the rest of the Spider-Society, [[spoiler:and later forms part of the team Miguel sends to track down Miles]]. However, some fans were not pleased by how the film depicts him, as pretty much all of his lines and scenes are devoted to lampooning the NinetiesAntiHero tropes that were prevalent at the time of his introduction to the comics, and little is explored with his canonical characterization or backstory. Making it even worse is that he barely displayed any of those traits in his run. In fact, he (and by extension the Clone Saga as a whole) were created because ''Peter'' [[DarkerAndEdgier was exhibiting them]]. The movie also identifies him as coming from Earth-94 in an apparent reference to the prominent role Ben Reilly of Earth-94 takes in [[ComicBook/SpiderVerse the comic event]]. The comics version was notable for being particularly upbeat and averting major negative events that happened in most other universes. While keeping the latter part intact wouldn't mesh with the film's plot, the complete personality inversion still stands out.

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TheyChangedItNowItSucks: [[Characters/MarvelComicsScarletSpider Ben Reilly]] makes an appearance with the rest of the Spider-Society, [[spoiler:and later forms part of the team Miguel sends to track down Miles]]. However, some fans were not pleased by how the film depicts him, as pretty much all of his lines and scenes are devoted to lampooning the NinetiesAntiHero tropes that were prevalent at the time of his introduction to the comics, and little is explored with his canonical characterization or backstory. Making it even worse is that he barely displayed any of those traits in his run. In fact, he (and by extension the Clone Saga as a whole) were created because ''Peter'' [[DarkerAndEdgier was exhibiting them]]. The movie also identifies him as coming from Earth-94 in an apparent reference to the prominent role Ben Reilly of Earth-94 takes in [[ComicBook/SpiderVerse the comic event]]. The comics version was notable for being particularly upbeat and averting major negative events that happened in most other universes. While keeping the latter part intact wouldn't mesh with the film's plot, the complete personality inversion still stands out.



** The first poster reveals other Spiders showing up including Julia Carpenter's Spider-Woman, Doppelganger from ''ComicBook/TheInfinityWar'', and even '''''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan.''''' The latter was especially seen as a surprise, given that the show hasn't been acknowledged by Marvel or Sony since its cancellation in 2009 (aside from home video and streaming re-releases). [[spoiler:Not only that, but Creator/JoshKeaton returns to give him a couple of speaking lines!]]

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** The first poster reveals other Spiders showing up including Julia Carpenter's Spider-Woman, Doppelganger from ''ComicBook/TheInfinityWar'', and even '''''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan.''''' '''''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'''''. The latter was especially seen as a surprise, given that the show hasn't been acknowledged by Marvel or Sony since its cancellation in 2009 (aside from home video and streaming re-releases). [[spoiler:Not only that, but Creator/JoshKeaton returns to give him a couple of speaking lines!]]



** The Spot [[spoiler: travels to Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse and ends up robbing [[Characters/SSUSanFrancisco Mrs. Chen]], who is less than enthused.]]

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** The Spot [[spoiler: travels [[spoiler:travels to the Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse and ends up robbing [[Characters/SSUSanFrancisco Mrs. Chen]], who is less than enthused.]]
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** In the French dub, the Spot is translated as "la Tâche". It is a directed translation, but the term is also schoolyard slang for a loser, which aptly describes the Spot as this point, making Miles' snicker upon hearing it very justified.

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** In the French dub, the Spot is translated as "la Tâche"."''la Tache''". It is a directed translation, but the term is also schoolyard slang for a loser, which aptly describes the Spot as this point, making Miles' snicker upon hearing it very justified.
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** The criminals captured in the wrong dimensions by the Spider-Society include Variants of the traditional Spider-Man villains such as Vulture, Rhino, Mysterio, Kraven, Doc Ock... and [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Typeface]].

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** The criminals captured in the wrong dimensions by the Spider-Society include Variants of the traditional Spider-Man villains such as Vulture, Rhino, Mysterio, Kraven, Doc Ock... and [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg Typeface]].
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* GeniusBonus: A version of the Vulture from an universe based on the Italian Renaissance is actually very fitting: not only was the very first version of the Vulture in ''ComicBook/HumanTorch1939'', Isadoro Scarlotti, an Italian inventor, UsefulNotes/LeonardoDaVinci also famously studied flight through many years and based several of his invention ideas on that, sketching ornithopters and wingsuits. Furthermore, the Vulture's gadgets are references to Leonardo's own sketches and books: he is often surrounded by notes written in reverse, just like what Leonardo did to his annotations, and his bombs are directly based on Leonardo's aerial screw sketch.

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* GeniusBonus: A The version of the Vulture from an universe based on the Italian Renaissance fought in the prologue is actually very fitting: not only was the very first version of the Vulture in ''ComicBook/HumanTorch1939'', Isadoro Isidoro Scarlotti, an Italian inventor, UsefulNotes/LeonardoDaVinci also famously studied flight through many years and based several of his invention ideas on that, sketching ornithopters and wingsuits. Furthermore, the Vulture's gadgets are references to Leonardo's own sketches and books: he is often surrounded by notes written in reverse, just like what Leonardo did to his annotations, and his bombs are directly based on Leonardo's aerial screw sketch.
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*** A [[TakeAThirdOption third group]] say that Miles and Miguel are ''both'' [[BothSidesHaveAPoint right in different aspects]]. These fans believe that Miles has every right to be defensive over his dad due to how the character of Spider-Man has been characterized in almost every installment made about him, while also acknowledging that Miguel has a leg to stand on with the canon events theory due to what happened to his alternate self's universe, and overall believe the situation to not nearly be as [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white]] as the rest of the fanbase seems to view it as.

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*** A [[TakeAThirdOption third group]] say says that Miles and Miguel are ''both'' [[BothSidesHaveAPoint right in different aspects]]. These fans believe that Miles has every right to be defensive over his dad due to how the character of Spider-Man has been characterized in almost every installment made about him, while also acknowledging that Miguel has a leg to stand on with the canon events theory due to what happened to his alternate self's universe, and overall believe the situation to not nearly be as [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white]] as the rest of the fanbase seems to view it as.
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I don't think it's right to suggest the third group is "extremely small", from what I've seen the idea that both Miles and Miguel have valid points or are valid for behaving how they do is a pretty common interpretation.


** One of the biggest arguments that permeates the fanbase is whether or not Miles or Miguel is in the right. It usually goes one of two ways:

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*** An extremely small, but vocal [[TakeAThirdOption third group]] say that Miles and Miguel are ''both'' [[BothSidesHaveAPoint right in different aspects]]. These fans believe that Miles has every right to be defensive over his dad due to how the character of Spider-Man has been characterized in almost every installment made about him, while also acknowledging that Miguel has a leg to stand on with the canon events theory due to what happened to his alternate self's universe, and overall believe the situation to not nearly be as [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white]] as the rest of the fanbase seems to view it as.

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*** An extremely small, but vocal A [[TakeAThirdOption third group]] say that Miles and Miguel are ''both'' [[BothSidesHaveAPoint right in different aspects]]. These fans believe that Miles has every right to be defensive over his dad due to how the character of Spider-Man has been characterized in almost every installment made about him, while also acknowledging that Miguel has a leg to stand on with the canon events theory due to what happened to his alternate self's universe, and overall believe the situation to not nearly be as [[BlackAndWhiteMorality black-and-white]] as the rest of the fanbase seems to view it as.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' would rather ignore that the crossover elements with this film [[spoiler:lead to the death of the much-beloved version of Captain Stacy from that show just for the sake of setting up the Canon Events debate. Granted, showrunner Creator/GregWeisman alluded that Captain Stacy may have not been spared if the show continued though the death is still upsetting regardless]]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlk1ispzTZQ Weisman himself] considers it merely a "next door neighbor" universe's Spider-Man rather then his own.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' would rather ignore that the crossover elements with this film [[spoiler:lead to the death of the much-beloved version of Captain Stacy from that show just for the sake of setting up the Canon Events debate. Granted, showrunner Creator/GregWeisman alluded that Captain Stacy may have not been spared if the show continued though the death is still upsetting regardless]]. [https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlk1ispzTZQ Weisman himself] himself]] considers it merely a "next door neighbor" universe's Spider-Man rather then his own.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' would rather ignore that the crossover elements with this film [[spoiler:lead to the death of the much-beloved version of Captain Stacy from that show just for the sake of setting up the Canon Events debate. Granted, showrunner Creator/GregWeisman alluded that Captain Stacy may have not been spared if the show continued though the death is still upsetting regardless]].

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' would rather ignore that the crossover elements with this film [[spoiler:lead to the death of the much-beloved version of Captain Stacy from that show just for the sake of setting up the Canon Events debate. Granted, showrunner Creator/GregWeisman alluded that Captain Stacy may have not been spared if the show continued though the death is still upsetting regardless]]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlk1ispzTZQ Weisman himself] considers it merely a "next door neighbor" universe's Spider-Man rather then his own.
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** Many fans were upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both ''Across'' and its predecessor were very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.

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** Many fans were upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both ''Across'' and its predecessor were very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where were compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.
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** Many fans were upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both ''Across'' and its predecessor where very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.

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** Many fans were upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both ''Across'' and its predecessor where were very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.
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Grammar.


** Many fans were upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both and across and it's predecessor where very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.
** Just like its [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse original predecessor]], it was also not nominated for Best Picture. Many fans feel they deserved atleast a nomination, as in addition to just being really good movies both where groundbreaking for the animation industry. It doesn't help that the divide between best animated feature and best picture has been contentious for years.

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** Many fans were upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both ''Across'' and across and it's its predecessor where very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.
** Just like its [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse original predecessor]], it was also not nominated for Best Picture. Many fans feel they deserved atleast at least a nomination, as in addition to just being really good movies they were both where groundbreaking for the animation industry. It doesn't help that the divide between best animated feature Best Animated Feature and best picture Best Picture has been contentious for years.

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** Just like its [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse original predecessor]], it was also not nominated for Best Picture. Many fans feel they deserved atleast a nomination, as in addition to just being really good movies both where groundbreaking for the animation industry. It doesn't help that the divide between beast animated feature and best picture has been contentious for years.

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** Just like its [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse original predecessor]], it was also not nominated for Best Picture. Many fans feel they deserved atleast a nomination, as in addition to just being really good movies both where groundbreaking for the animation industry. It doesn't help that the divide between beast best animated feature and best picture has been contentious for years.years.
** The film also managed to make it to the shortlist in the categories for Best Visual Effects and Best Original Song ("Am I Dreaming?"), but neither managed to get nominated.
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* GeniusBonus: A version of the Vulture from an universe based on the Italian Renaissance is actually very fitting: not only was the very first version of the Vulture in ''ComicBook/TheHumanTorch1939'', Isadoro Scarlotti, an Italian inventor, UsefulNotes/LeonardoDaVinci also famously studied flight through many years and based several of his invention ideas on that, sketching ornithopters and wingsuits. Furthermore, the Vulture's gadgets are references to Leonardo's own sketches and books: he is often surrounded by notes written in reverse, just like what Leonardo did to his annotations, and his bombs are directly based on Leonardo's aerial screw sketch.

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* GeniusBonus: A version of the Vulture from an universe based on the Italian Renaissance is actually very fitting: not only was the very first version of the Vulture in ''ComicBook/TheHumanTorch1939'', ''ComicBook/HumanTorch1939'', Isadoro Scarlotti, an Italian inventor, UsefulNotes/LeonardoDaVinci also famously studied flight through many years and based several of his invention ideas on that, sketching ornithopters and wingsuits. Furthermore, the Vulture's gadgets are references to Leonardo's own sketches and books: he is often surrounded by notes written in reverse, just like what Leonardo did to his annotations, and his bombs are directly based on Leonardo's aerial screw sketch.
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* GeniusBonus: A version of the Vulture from an universe based on the Italian Renaissance is actually very fitting: not only was the very first version of the Vulture in ''ComicBook/TheHumanTorch1939'', Isadoro Scarlotti, an Italian inventor, UsefulNotes/LeonardoDaVinci also famously studied flight through many years and based several of his invention ideas on that, sketching ornithopters and wingsuits. Furthermore, the Vulture's gadgets are references to Leonardo's own sketches and books: he is often surrounded by notes written in reverse, just like what Leonardo did to his annotations, and his bombs are directly based on Leonardo's aerial screw sketch.
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* {{AwardSnub}}:
** Many fans where upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both and across and it's predecessor where very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.

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** Many fans where were upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not nominated for Best Original Score. The soundtrack for both and across and it's predecessor where very well received, in part because of how unorthodox they where compared to most movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of electronic music instead of the more traditional orchestra.

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Edited to be less complainy. Cut oscar isaac example because I haven't seen anyone talk about that and I couldn't find any mention of it when i went looking.


** Inexplicably, the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not at all nominated for Best Original Score, despite it being one of the most critically acclaimed aspects of the entire film. The fact that the score for [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny]] won instead also put more fuel into the fire, due to the latter's very poor reception.
** Even worse, just like its [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse original predecessor]], it was also not nominated for Best Picture. This made many fans extremely angry, considering its high-status as one of the best films of 2023.
** Many people also unaminously agree that Oscar Isaac should have been nominated for Best Voice Acting, due to his incredibly intense performance portraying Miguel O'Hara. Then again, the Academy doesn't seem to care for giving awards to voice actors only.

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** Inexplicably, Many fans where upset that the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not at all nominated for Best Original Score, despite it being one Score. The soundtrack for both and across and it's predecessor where very well received, in part because of the how unorthodox they where compared to most critically acclaimed aspects movie soundtracks, with a heavy use of the entire film. The fact that the score for [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny]] won electronic music instead also put of the more fuel into the fire, due to the latter's very poor reception.
traditional orchestra.
** Even worse, just Just like its [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse original predecessor]], it was also not nominated for Best Picture. This made many Many fans extremely angry, considering its high-status feel they deserved atleast a nomination, as one of in addition to just being really good movies both where groundbreaking for the best films of 2023.
** Many people also unaminously agree that Oscar Isaac should have been nominated for Best Voice Acting, due to his incredibly intense performance portraying Miguel O'Hara. Then again, the Academy
animation industry. It doesn't seem to care help that the divide between beast animated feature and best picture has been contentious for giving awards to voice actors only.years.
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Added example(s) - I'd like to point out that this film getting snubbed again is just another example of the Academy not taking animation for granted. We owe our hearts to Del Toro.

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** Inexplicably, the movie's score by Daniel Pemberton was not at all nominated for Best Original Score, despite it being one of the most critically acclaimed aspects of the entire film. The fact that the score for [[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny]] won instead also put more fuel into the fire, due to the latter's very poor reception.
** Even worse, just like its [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse original predecessor]], it was also not nominated for Best Picture. This made many fans extremely angry, considering its high-status as one of the best films of 2023.
** Many people also unaminously agree that Oscar Isaac should have been nominated for Best Voice Acting, due to his incredibly intense performance portraying Miguel O'Hara. Then again, the Academy doesn't seem to care for giving awards to voice actors only.

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** Miguel has also been paired with Peter B., typically in a polyamorous relationship that includes Mary Jane, and Gwen of all characters.
** Miles Morales and Peni Parker has been around for a while but a few new pieces of fanart were enough to make it explode in popularity. [[spoiler: Gwen betraying Miles, and some backlash to Gwen's character]] have also added fuel to the shipping.

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** Fanfic has been written about Miguel has also been paired with Peter B., typically in a polyamorous relationship that includes with Peter B., Mary Jane, and Gwen of all characters.
** Miles Morales and Peni Parker has been around for a while but a few new pieces of fanart were enough to make it explode in popularity. [[spoiler: Gwen betraying Miles, and some backlash to Gwen's character]] have also added fuel to the shipping.
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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have somehow "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a deeply troubled 16-year old who was given no proof of Miguel being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "canon event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them), and thus being led to believe she would either have to side with Miles, or risk ''an entire universe with billions of lives collapsing'', (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised Miguel's belief is flawed after all and gathered her own Spider-team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]

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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have somehow "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a deeply troubled 16-year old who was given no proof of Miguel being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "canon event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them), and thus being led to believe she would either have to side with Miles, or risk ''an entire universe ''risk the multiverse with billions of lives collapsing'', (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised Miguel's belief is flawed after all and gathered her own Spider-team Spider-Team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]
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** While the new portrayal of Peni Parker has become extremely popular upon her appearance, there are still some fans of her who preferred her portrayal from [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse the first movie]].
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** While the new portrayal of Peni Parker has become extremely popular upon her appearance, there are still some fans of her who preferred her portrayal from [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse the first movie]].

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