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* NightmareFuel: The dialogue leading up to "Donkey Pot Pie" is actually kind of disturbing, especially with lines like this...
-->'''Dragon:''' What's your name, pumpkin?\\

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The dialogue leading up to "Donkey Pot Pie" is actually kind of disturbing, especially with lines like this...
-->'''Dragon:''' What's your name, pumpkin?\\[[TermsOfEndangerment pumpkin]]?\\


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** While "Forever" is less creepy, the very beginning as Dragon appears is an exception. The ominous thrumming burns into the listener's head, setting an unsettling tone practically before they can even discern the sound.
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** Fiona. Some people praise Sutton Foster's performance to be one of the best among the cast, and find that it, along with the character's [[AdaptationExpansion additional depth and backstory]], makes her a better character than her film counterpart. Others are turned off by Musical!Fiona's more {{camp}}y aesthetic and behavior and find that it makes her too much like the Disney princesses she was meant to parody, and prefer Movie!Fiona's more natural "girl-next-door" design and mannerisms.

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** Fiona. Some people praise Sutton Foster's performance to be one of the best among the cast, and find that it, along with the character's [[AdaptationExpansion additional depth and backstory]], makes her a better character than her film counterpart. Others are turned off by Musical!Fiona's more {{camp}}y aesthetic and behavior and find that it makes her too much like the Disney princesses she was meant to parody, and prefer Movie!Fiona's more natural "girl-next-door" design and mannerisms.mannerisms as well as her more prominent ActionGirl traits.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter:

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: All four of the main characters are this due to comparisons to their beloved film counterparts.
** Shrek himself. While Brian D'Arcy James puts on a fantastic performance and the prosthetic work used to bring Shrek to life is excellent, many people feel that being a singing character in a musical completely ruins the point of his film counterpart, who disliked singing and didn't open up to others easily. Creators such as WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions argue that having Shrek as a non-singing character until he starts to open up to others would have better emphasized his CharacterDevelopment and also been a TruerToTheText adaptation of his film counterpart.
** Donkey. While some people find him as hilarious as ever, others find him to be a flanderized and more irritating version of his film counterpart, lacking the charm that Creator/EddieMurphy brought to the character.
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** Lord Farquaad, as pointed out by WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions. While many people praise Christopher Siever's LargeHam performance and the hilarious StylisticSuck used to make him appear short, others dislike how Farquaad's backstory counters the main message of the ''Shrek'' franchise.

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** Lord Farquaad, as pointed out by WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions. While many people praise Christopher Siever's LargeHam performance and the hilarious StylisticSuck used to make him appear short, short (with some claiming he's more entertaining than the movie version), others dislike how Farquaad's backstory counters the main message of the ''Shrek'' franchise.franchise, given that the musical establishes him as part dwarf and yet the "heroic" characters don't stop making fun of his height, which is quite hypocritical.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Fiona. Some people praise Sutton Foster's performance to be one of the best among the cast, and find that it, along with the character's [[AdaptationExpansion additional depth and backstory]], makes her a better character than her film counterpart. Others are turned off by Musical!Fiona's more {{camp}}y aesthetic and behavior and find that it makes her too much like the Disney princesses she was meant to parody, and prefer Movie!Fiona's more natural "girl-next-door" design and mannerisms.

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Fiona. Some people praise Sutton Foster's performance to be one of the best among the cast, and find that it, along with the character's [[AdaptationExpansion additional depth and backstory]], makes her a better character than her film counterpart. Others are turned off by Musical!Fiona's more {{camp}}y aesthetic and behavior and find that it makes her too much like the Disney princesses she was meant to parody, and prefer Movie!Fiona's more natural "girl-next-door" design and mannerisms.mannerisms.
** Lord Farquaad, as pointed out by WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions. While many people praise Christopher Siever's LargeHam performance and the hilarious StylisticSuck used to make him appear short, others dislike how Farquaad's backstory counters the main message of the ''Shrek'' franchise.
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* BrokenBase: Fans are divided on how good the musical and its characters are as an adaptation of the source material; some consider it more charming and superior, while others (such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om49c8HpBPM Musical Hell]]) are gleeful to tear it to pieces.

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* BrokenBase: Fans are divided on how good the musical and its characters are as an adaptation of the source material; some consider it more charming and superior, while others (such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om49c8HpBPM Musical Hell]]) WebVideo/MusicalHell and WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions) are gleeful to tear it to pieces.
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* ValuesDissonance: A minor example, but it's mentioned late in the production that [[spoiler:Grumpy kicked out Farquaad because he was [[BasementDweller 28 and living in his father's basement]]. Since the 2010s, many have effectively ''had no choice'' but to continue living with their parents into adulthood on account of economic problems and deficits.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: A minor example, but it's mentioned late in the production that [[spoiler:Grumpy kicked out Farquaad because he was [[BasementDweller 28 and living in his father's basement]]. Since the 2010s, many adults have effectively ''had no choice'' but to continue living with their parents into adulthood on account of economic problems and deficits.]]

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* ValuesDissonance: A minor example, but it's mentioned late in the production that [[spoiler:Grumpy kicked out Farquaad because he was [[BasementDweller 28 and living in his father's basement]]. Since the 2010s, many adults have effectively ''had no choice'' but to continue living with their parents into adulthood on account of economic problems and deficits.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: A minor example, but it's mentioned late in the production that [[spoiler:Grumpy kicked out Farquaad because he was [[BasementDweller 28 and living in his father's basement]]. Since the 2010s, many adults have effectively ''had no choice'' but to continue living with their parents into adulthood on account of economic problems and deficits.]]
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Gingy's original actress, Haven Paschall (nee Burton) gained wider recognition in 2013 as the voice of Serena in the English dub of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Gingy's original actress, Haven Paschall (nee Burton) gained wider recognition in 2013 as the voice of Serena in the English dub of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''.''Anime/PokemonTheSeries''.
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** "Who I'd Be", the "[[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Defying Gravity]]" of ''Shrek''.
** The last verse of "I Know It's Today", which has Fiona singing tri-part harmony with her past selves.

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** "Who I'd Be", a poignant ballad in which Shrek pours out his desire to be more than just an ogre and his resignation with his assigned role. It's the "[[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Defying Gravity]]" of ''Shrek''.
** The last verse of "I Know It's Today", Today" is a pretty song throughout, but it truly becomes a showstopper towards the end, as Fiona grows exasperated with her imprisonment. It closes with a magnificent section which has Fiona repeating the chorus as a SurvivalMantra, singing tri-part harmony with her past selves.



** The Dragon's song, "Forever."

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** The Dragon's song, "Forever." "Forever", a jazzy number portraying her as a {{Tsundere}} bitter about her lot in life but exuberant once she comes to the mistaken conclusion that Donkey is her long-awaited true love. The high-powered melody captures Dragon's overbearingness and is catchy enough to get stuck in the audience's head.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The Dragon puppet in the National Tour--huge, movie accurate and really cool looking.

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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The Dragon puppet in the National Tour--huge, movie accurate and really cool looking.looking.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Gingy's original actress, Haven Paschall (nee Burton) gained wider recognition in 2013 as the voice of Serena in the English dub of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''.
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** This is how most fans of the movies feel about the play. They feel like it ruins the whole charm of the franchise by turning it into a musical, changing certain plot points, and flanderizing the characters into [[WesternAnimation/ShrekForeverAfter jolly green jokes]].

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** This is how most Some fans of the movies feel about the play. They feel like it ruins musical misses the whole cynical charm of the franchise by original movie, turning it into a musical, changing certain plot points, and flanderizing the characters into [[WesternAnimation/ShrekForeverAfter jolly green jokes]].

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The initial reaction to the song "Donkey Pot Pie" being replaced with "Forever." This has died down since then.

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The initial reaction to the song "Donkey Pot Pie" being replaced with "Forever." This has died down since then.then.
** This is how most fans of the movies feel about the play. They feel like it ruins the whole charm of the franchise by turning it into a musical, changing certain plot points, and flanderizing the characters into [[WesternAnimation/ShrekForeverAfter jolly green jokes]].
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* UncannyValley: In some productions (including the original Broadway cast), many of the characters look a bit ''off'' compared to their animated counterparts. For example, Shrek's blend of human facial features (such as smaller eyes) and ogre prosthetics can make him look less endearing than the film version. Human!Fiona also looks more made-up and less natural than her already slightly uncanny film incarnation, with a less flattering hairstyle.

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* UncannyValley: In some productions (including the original Broadway cast), many of the characters look a bit ''off'' compared to their animated counterparts. For example, Shrek's blend of human facial features (such as smaller eyes) and ogre prosthetics can make him look less endearing than the film version. Human!Fiona also looks more made-up and less natural than her already slightly uncanny film incarnation, with a less flattering hairstyle.hairstyle.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The Dragon puppet in the National Tour--huge, movie accurate and really cool looking.
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* NightmareFuel: The dialogue leading up to "Donkey Pot Pie" is actually kind of disturbing, especially with lines like this...
-->'''Dragon:''' What's your name, pumpkin?\\
'''Donkey:''' [[IWantMyMommy MOMMY!]]\\
'''Dragon:''' (''as skeletons of her former victims come to life and apprehend Donkey'') What a coincidence! That was ''his'' name too! And his! And his! AND HIS! ''AND HIS!''
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* RainbowLens: It's easy to see "Freak Flag" as a Pride anthem, especially with lines like "It's not a choice you made, it's just the way you hatched!" and the overall theme of embracing who you are and being proud of it.

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* RainbowLens: It's easy to see "Freak Flag" as a Pride anthem, especially with lines like "It's not a choice you made, it's just the way you hatched!" hatched!", Pinocchio's closing message of [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything "I'm wood, I'm good, get used to it!"]] and the overall theme of [[BeYourself embracing who you are are]] and being proud of it.
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* RainbowLens: It's easy to see "Freak Flag" as a Pride anthem, especially with lines like "It's not a choice you made, it's just the way you hatched!" and the overall theme of embracing who you are and being proud of it.
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* {{Adorkable}}: Shrek comes off as adorably awkward in "When Words Fail", when he's trying to think of the right way to confess his love to Fiona, continually [[OpenMouthInsertFoot making mistakes]], [[DiggingYourselfDeeper digging himself deeper]], and generally rambling during an attempted romantic monologue. As the title implies, this ends up PlayedForDrama as he initially worries that his awkwardness will prevent him from being able to get his point across.
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* EarWorm:
** ''"I think I got you beat, I think I got you beat! Yea-ah! Yea-ah! Yea-ah!"''
** ''"Sing a song, yes a travel song, when ya' gotta go somewhere~"''
** ''"I know it's todaaaayyyy, I know it's TODAAAAYYYY!"''
** "You're gonna stay, you're gonna stay, you're gonna staaaayyyyyy forever, forever, forever..."



* UncannyValley: In some productions (including the original Broadway cast), many of the characters look a bit ''off'' compared to their animated counterparts. For example, Shrek's blend of human facial features (such as smaller eyes) and ogre prosthetics can make him look less endearing than the film version. Human!Fiona also looks more made-up and less natural than her already [[UncannyValley slightly uncanny]] film incarnation, with a less flattering hairstyle.

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* UncannyValley: In some productions (including the original Broadway cast), many of the characters look a bit ''off'' compared to their animated counterparts. For example, Shrek's blend of human facial features (such as smaller eyes) and ogre prosthetics can make him look less endearing than the film version. Human!Fiona also looks more made-up and less natural than her already [[UncannyValley slightly uncanny]] uncanny film incarnation, with a less flattering hairstyle.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** "Who I'd Be", the "[[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Defying Gravity]]" of ''Shrek''.
** The last verse of "I Know It's Today", which has Fiona singing tri-part harmony with her past selves.
** Most of the songs. The whole damn musical is show-stoppers everywhere.
** The Dragon's song, "Forever."



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Who I'd Be", the "[[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Defying Gravity]]" of ''Shrek''.
** The last verse of "I Know It's Today", which has Fiona singing tri-part harmony with her past selves.
** Most of the songs. The whole damn musical is show-stoppers everywhere.
** The Dragon's song, "Forever."
* EnsembleDarkHorse: Pinocchio. The mere fact that he was originally played by John Tartaglia may or may not have a lot to do with it.
* EarWorm: ''"I think I got you beat, I think I got you beat! Yea-ah! Yea-ah! Yea-ah!"''

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Who I'd Be", the "[[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Defying Gravity]]" of ''Shrek''.
EarWorm:
** The last verse of "I Know It's Today", which has Fiona singing tri-part harmony with her past selves.
** Most of the songs. The whole damn musical is show-stoppers everywhere.
** The Dragon's song, "Forever."
* EnsembleDarkHorse: Pinocchio. The mere fact that he was originally played by John Tartaglia may or may not have a lot to do with it.
* EarWorm:
''"I think I got you beat, I think I got you beat! Yea-ah! Yea-ah! Yea-ah!"''


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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Pinocchio. The mere fact that he was originally played by John Tartaglia may or may not have a lot to do with it.
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** The last verse of "I Know It's Today", which has Fiona singing tri-part harmony with her past selves.
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** "You're gonna stay, you're gonna stay, you're gonna staaaayyyyyy forever, forever, forever..."
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** The Dragon's song, "Forever."
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Fiona. Some people praise Sutton Foster's performance to be one of the best among the cast, and find that it, along with the character's [[AdaptationExpansion additional depth and backstory]], makes her a better character than her film counterpart. Others are turned off by Musical!Fiona's more {{camp}}y aesthetic and behavior and find that it makes her too much like the Disney princesses she was meant to parody, and prefer Movie!Fiona's more natural "girl-next-door" design and mannerisms.
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* BrokenBase: Fans are divided on how good the musical and its characters are as an adaptation of the source material; some consider it more charming and superior, while others (such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om49c8HpBPM Musical Hell]]) are gleeful to tear it to pieces.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The initial reaction to the song "Donkey Pot Pie" being replaced with "Forever." This has died down since then.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The initial reaction to the song "Donkey Pot Pie" being replaced with "Forever." This has died down since then.then.
* UncannyValley: In some productions (including the original Broadway cast), many of the characters look a bit ''off'' compared to their animated counterparts. For example, Shrek's blend of human facial features (such as smaller eyes) and ogre prosthetics can make him look less endearing than the film version. Human!Fiona also looks more made-up and less natural than her already [[UncannyValley slightly uncanny]] film incarnation, with a less flattering hairstyle.
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** Most of the songs. Just about the whole damn musical is show-stoppers everywhere.

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** Most of the songs. Just about the The whole damn musical is show-stoppers everywhere.
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* CrackPairing: Quite a few. And within the actual show no less!
** In earlier performances, the White Rabbit and the (female) Ugly Duckling were frequently seen together; in the finale, he'd propose to her.
** Even Pinocchio and the Shoemaker's Elf - and the Sugar Plum Fairy and Tweedle Dum later - were sometimes given [[LastMinuteHookup Last Minute Hookups]].
** Later, in one of the promotional materials, it was revealed that Gingy has a crush on the Elf.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Who I'd Be", the "[[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Defying Gravity]]" of ''Shrek''.
** Most of the songs. Just about the whole damn musical is show-stoppers everywhere.
* EnsembleDarkHorse: Pinocchio. The mere fact that he was originally played by John Tartaglia may or may not have a lot to do with it.
* EarWorm: ''"I think I got you beat, I think I got you beat! Yea-ah! Yea-ah! Yea-ah!"''
** ''"Sing a song, yes a travel song, when ya' gotta go somewhere~"''
** ''"I know it's todaaaayyyy, I know it's TODAAAAYYYY!"''
* HilariousInHindsight: It wasn't until a friend pointed it out that John Tartaglia, who has been a puppeteer most of his life, realized and appreciate the irony of playing Pinocchio, a literal puppet character.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The initial reaction to the song "Donkey Pot Pie" being replaced with "Forever." This has died down since then.

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