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* HilariousInHindsight: The film is basically ComicBook/SpiderMan being mentored by (future) Marvel supervillains.
** Creator/ChrisCooper was eventually cast as ComicBook/NormanOsborn in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''. Even better is that Creator/TobeyMaguire's [[Film/SpiderMan1 previous film]] before this one has him fighting the character.
** Creator/JeffBridges playing was cast as Obadiah Stane in ''Film/IronMan1'', the film's BigBad. The titular ComicBook/IronMan would eventually mentor the Spider-Man of [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse that film's universe]].
** At one point, Red angrily mutters "This is something else…", a line Peter Parker also went on to say, albeit in a much happier tone, in ''Film/SpiderMan3'', which became one of the [[MemeticMutation memes of the movie]] about a decade later.
** Creator/ChrisCooper was eventually cast as ComicBook/NormanOsborn in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''. Even better is that Creator/TobeyMaguire's [[Film/SpiderMan1 previous film]] before this one has him fighting the character.
** Creator/JeffBridges playing was cast as Obadiah Stane in ''Film/IronMan1'', the film's BigBad. The titular ComicBook/IronMan would eventually mentor the Spider-Man of [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse that film's universe]].
** At one point, Red angrily mutters "This is something else…", a line Peter Parker also went on to say, albeit in a much happier tone, in ''Film/SpiderMan3'', which became one of the [[MemeticMutation memes of the movie]] about a decade later.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The film is basically Franchise/SpiderMan being mentored by (future) Marvel supervillains.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The film is basically Franchise/SpiderMan ComicBook/SpiderMan being mentored by (future) Marvel supervillains.
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** At one point, Red angrily mutters "This is something else…", a line Peter Parker also went on to say, albeit in a much happier tone, in ''Film/SpiderMan3'', which became one of the [[MemeticMutation memes of the movie]] about a decade later.
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*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.
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*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.time.
*** Several [[StuntDouble stunt doubles]] found this out the hard way. After just a few takes, most of them had quit because they thought it was just too dangerous. On short notice, they had to find several people who looked like jockeys, who were willing to act as jockeys for the race sequences. So ... [[ShapedLikeItself they hired jockeys]]. This is how renowned jockey Gary Stevens got the [[AscendedExtra prominent gig as George Woolf]].
*** Several [[StuntDouble stunt doubles]] found this out the hard way. After just a few takes, most of them had quit because they thought it was just too dangerous. On short notice, they had to find several people who looked like jockeys, who were willing to act as jockeys for the race sequences. So ... [[ShapedLikeItself they hired jockeys]]. This is how renowned jockey Gary Stevens got the [[AscendedExtra prominent gig as George Woolf]].
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*** This was especially bad for the real-life Red Pollard, who was extraordinarily tall at 5'7" (1.70 m). Most top jockeys are barely 5 feet (1.52 m), if that.
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*** This was especially bad for the real-life Red Pollard, who was extraordinarily tall for the job at 5'7" (1.70 m). Most top jockeys are barely 5 feet (1.52 m), if that.
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*** This was especially bad for the real-life Red Pollard, who was extraordinarily tall for a jockey at 5'7" (1.70 m). Most top jockeys are barely 5 feet (1.52 m), if that.
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*** This was especially bad for the real-life Red Pollard, who was extraordinarily tall for a jockey at 5'7" (1.70 m). Most top jockeys are barely 5 feet (1.52 m), if that.
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*** This was especially an issue for the real-life Red Pollard, who was extraordinarily tall for a jockey at 5'7" (1.70 m). Most top jockeys are barely 5 feet (1.52 m), if that.
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*** This was especially an issue bad for the real-life Red Pollard, who was extraordinarily tall for a jockey at 5'7" (1.70 m). Most top jockeys are barely 5 feet (1.52 m), if that.
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* HilariousInHindsight: This film is basically [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Peter Parker]] being mentored by [[Film/IronMan1 Obadiah Stane]] and ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Norman Osborn]]''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: This The film is basically [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Peter Parker]] Franchise/SpiderMan being mentored by [[Film/IronMan1 (future) Marvel supervillains.
** Creator/ChrisCooper was eventually cast as ComicBook/NormanOsborn in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''. Even better is that Creator/TobeyMaguire's [[Film/SpiderMan1 previous film]] before this one has him fighting the character.
** Creator/JeffBridges playing was cast as ObadiahStane]] and ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Norman Osborn]]''.Stane in ''Film/IronMan1'', the film's BigBad. The titular ComicBook/IronMan would eventually mentor the Spider-Man of [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse that film's universe]].
** Creator/ChrisCooper was eventually cast as ComicBook/NormanOsborn in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''. Even better is that Creator/TobeyMaguire's [[Film/SpiderMan1 previous film]] before this one has him fighting the character.
** Creator/JeffBridges playing was cast as Obadiah
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*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.
* WhamLine: There's a quiet, brutal gutpunch to the way the description of Seabiscuit's disastrous early career finally concludes.
--> ''When they finally did race him, he did just what they'd trained him to do. He lost.''
* WhamLine: There's a quiet, brutal gutpunch to the way the description of Seabiscuit's disastrous early career finally concludes.
--> ''When they finally did race him, he did just what they'd trained him to do. He lost.''
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*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.
* WhamLine: There's a quiet, brutal gutpunch to the way the description of Seabiscuit's disastrous early career finally concludes.
--> ''When they finally did race him, he did just what they'd trained him to do. He lost.''time.
* WhamLine: There's a quiet, brutal gutpunch to the way the description of Seabiscuit's disastrous early career finally concludes.
--> ''When they finally did race him, he did just what they'd trained him to do. He lost.''
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* HilariousInHindsight: This film is basically [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy Peter Parker]] being mentored by [[Film/IronMan1 Obadiah Stane]] and ''[[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Norman Osborn]]''.
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*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.
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*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.time.
*WhamLine: There's a quiet, brutal gutpunch to the way the description of Seabiscuit's disastrous early career finally concludes.
--> ''When they finally did race him, he did just what they'd trained him to do. He lost.''
*WhamLine: There's a quiet, brutal gutpunch to the way the description of Seabiscuit's disastrous early career finally concludes.
--> ''When they finally did race him, he did just what they'd trained him to do. He lost.''
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*** Red Pollard in particular had two horrifying wrecks. In February 1938, he and the filly Fair Knightess (also owned by Howard) fell during a race in heavy rain. His chest was crushed by the weight of the falling animal, and his ribs and arm were broken. He needed extensive surgery, and almost did not survive. In July of the same year, shortly before Seabiscuit's match race with War Admiral, he suffered a compound fracture in his right leg when a friend's horse spooked and bolted with him during a workout. Multiple surgeries later, he was told never to ride again, but [[{{Determinator}} that didn't stick]].
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*** Red Pollard in particular had two horrifying wrecks. In February 1938, he and the filly Fair Knightess (also owned by Howard) fell during a race in heavy rain. His chest was crushed by the weight of the falling animal, and his ribs and arm were broken. He needed extensive surgery, and almost did not survive. In July of the same year, shortly before Seabiscuit's match race with War Admiral, he suffered a compound fracture in his right leg when a friend's horse spooked and bolted with him during a workout. Multiple surgeries later, he was told never to ride again, but [[{{Determinator}} that didn't stick]].stick]].
*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.
*** George Woolf died from injuries suffered when he fell from his mount in a 1946 race. It's generally thought his diabetic condition caused him to faint at the worst possible time.
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** Reducing. Jockeys went to terrifying extremes to keep their weight down (miniscule caloric intake, vomiting, laxatives, ''tapeworms in pills'', excessive sweating, etc.) and Hillenbrand does not leave out the resulting damage to their bodies. Made ''so much worse'' by the fact that it's[[TruthInTelevision not remotely exaggerated]], and many modern jockeys still face the same dilemma and use some of the same methods of quick weight loss.
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** Reducing. Jockeys went to terrifying extremes to keep their weight down (miniscule caloric intake, vomiting, laxatives, ''tapeworms in pills'', excessive sweating, etc.) and Hillenbrand does not leave out the resulting damage to their bodies. Made ''so much worse'' by the fact that it's[[TruthInTelevision it's [[TruthInTelevision not remotely exaggerated]], and many modern jockeys still face the same dilemma and use some of the same methods of quick weight loss.
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*** It was also an issue for his colleague George Woolf, who was ''diabetic''—keep in mind that insulin wasn't even discovered until the 1920s, and diabetes treatment was naturally far cruder than it is today.
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*** It was also an equally large issue for his colleague George Woolf, who was ''diabetic''—keep in mind that insulin wasn't even discovered until the 1920s, and diabetes treatment was naturally far cruder than it is today.
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*** This was especially an issue for the real-life Red Pollard, who was extraordinarily tall for a jockey at 5'7" (1.70 m). Most top jockeys are barely 5 feet (1.52 m), if that.
*** It was also an issue for his colleague George Woolf, who was ''diabetic''—keep in mind that insulin wasn't even discovered until the 1920s, and diabetes treatment was naturally far cruder than it is today.
*** It was also an issue for his colleague George Woolf, who was ''diabetic''—keep in mind that insulin wasn't even discovered until the 1920s, and diabetes treatment was naturally far cruder than it is today.
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* NightmareFuel: The very detailed descriptions in the book of how hard this sport is on jockeys. Specific examples below.
** Reducing. Jockeys went to terrifying extremes to keep their weight down (miniscule caloric intake, vomiting, laxatives, ''tapeworms in pills'', excessive sweating, etc.) and Hillenbrand does not leave out the resulting damage to their bodies. Made ''so much worse'' by the fact that it's[[TruthInTelevision not remotely exaggerated]], and many modern jockeys still face the same dilemma and use some of the same methods of quick weight loss.
** Injuries. Jockeys being crushed to death under falling horses, shattering bones, being paralyzed. And naturally, health insurance wouldn't touch them, so many kept riding with severe injuries because they couldn't afford to lose any income. There is a reason people say, "It's not a question of ''if'' you'll get hurt. It's how often and how badly" when discussing this sport. And again, despite massive technological advances in safety equipment, this still happens. The Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund was incorporated in 2006.
*** Red Pollard in particular had two horrifying wrecks. In February 1938, he and the filly Fair Knightess (also owned by Howard) fell during a race in heavy rain. His chest was crushed by the weight of the falling animal, and his ribs and arm were broken. He needed extensive surgery, and almost did not survive. In July of the same year, shortly before Seabiscuit's match race with War Admiral, he suffered a compound fracture in his right leg when a friend's horse spooked and bolted with him during a workout. Multiple surgeries later, he was told never to ride again, but [[{{Determinator}} that didn't stick]].
** Reducing. Jockeys went to terrifying extremes to keep their weight down (miniscule caloric intake, vomiting, laxatives, ''tapeworms in pills'', excessive sweating, etc.) and Hillenbrand does not leave out the resulting damage to their bodies. Made ''so much worse'' by the fact that it's[[TruthInTelevision not remotely exaggerated]], and many modern jockeys still face the same dilemma and use some of the same methods of quick weight loss.
** Injuries. Jockeys being crushed to death under falling horses, shattering bones, being paralyzed. And naturally, health insurance wouldn't touch them, so many kept riding with severe injuries because they couldn't afford to lose any income. There is a reason people say, "It's not a question of ''if'' you'll get hurt. It's how often and how badly" when discussing this sport. And again, despite massive technological advances in safety equipment, this still happens. The Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund was incorporated in 2006.
*** Red Pollard in particular had two horrifying wrecks. In February 1938, he and the filly Fair Knightess (also owned by Howard) fell during a race in heavy rain. His chest was crushed by the weight of the falling animal, and his ribs and arm were broken. He needed extensive surgery, and almost did not survive. In July of the same year, shortly before Seabiscuit's match race with War Admiral, he suffered a compound fracture in his right leg when a friend's horse spooked and bolted with him during a workout. Multiple surgeries later, he was told never to ride again, but [[{{Determinator}} that didn't stick]].