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** Sakura finally understanding why Kariya sacrificed himself for her back in ''Anime/FateZero''. And while she doesn't forgive Byakuya, she at least understand why he did what he did.

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** Sakura finally understanding why Kariya sacrificed himself for her back in ''Anime/FateZero''.''Literature/FateZero''. And while she doesn't forgive Byakuya, she at least understand why he did what he did.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The series is relentlessly grim, with nothing ever going well for anybody.



* TheWoobie: pretty much all the Matous except [[DirtyOldMan Zouken]] and [[SpoiledBrat Shinji]] qualify.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The series is relentlessly grim, with nothing ever going well for anybody.
* TheWoobie: pretty much all the Matous except [[DirtyOldMan Zouken]] and [[SpoiledBrat Shinji]] qualify.qualify.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: In the fic Byakuya cares about Shinji, despite being an aloof father. This contradicts the canon that he was a BitchInSheepsClothing that he pretended to care for his son until he found the truths of the Matou family. Years later, the ''Heaven's Feel'' manga was published, revealing that Byakuya ''did'' care about Shinji at some point.....or at least wanted him to have a normal life away from magecraft.

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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: In the fic Byakuya cares about Shinji, despite being an aloof father. This contradicts the canon that he was a BitchInSheepsClothing that he pretended to care for his son until he found the truths of the Matou family. Years later, the ''Heaven's Feel'' manga was published, revealing that Byakuya ''did'' care about Shinji at some point.....or at least wanted him to have a normal life away from magecraft.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Kariya doesn't seem to be too bothered about being raped by the crest worms every night. At least until he reaches puberty and starts being conscious of how wrong it is.



* HeartwarmingInHindsight: In the fic Byakuya cares about Shinji, despite being an aloof father. This contradicts the canon that he was a BitchInSheepsClothing that he pretended to care for his son until he found the truths of the Matou family. Years later, the ''Heaven's Feel'' manga was published, revealing that Byakuya ''did'' care about Shinji at some point.....or at least wanted him to have a normal life away from magecraft.



** After watching his wife eaten by the worms due to giving birth to a defective son, Byakuya spirals deep into depression and wants to die, wanting to get away from Zouken and all. The only reason he does not go through with it? Because Shinji will be left alone.



** Sakura finally understanding why Kariya sacrificed himself for her back in ''Anime/FateZero''.

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** Sakura finally understanding why Kariya sacrificed himself for her back in ''Anime/FateZero''. And while she doesn't forgive Byakuya, she at least understand why he did what he did.
** Finally, Sakura being consoled by Shirou and Rider as she reads the diary.



* TheScrappy: Shinji. He doesn't have too many appearances due to Byakuya locking him out of the loop of the family's secrets, but those times he shows up, he establishes himself as a spoiled brat, mocking his father's alcoholism and laughing at Sakura when she eats poisoned food at dinner. Makes you wonder why Byakuya wants to protect the little shit so much.

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* TheScrappy: Shinji. He doesn't have too many appearances due to Byakuya locking him out of the loop of the family's secrets, but those times he shows up, he establishes himself as a spoiled brat, mocking his father's alcoholism and laughing at Sakura when she eats poisoned food at dinner. Makes you wonder why Byakuya wants to protect the little shit so much.much.
* TheWoobie: pretty much all the Matous except [[DirtyOldMan Zouken]] and [[SpoiledBrat Shinji]] qualify.
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* TheScrappy: Shinji. He doesn't have too many appearances due to Byakuya locking him out of the loop of the family's secrets, but those times he shows up, he establishes himself as a spoiled brat, mocking his father's alcoholism and laughing at Sakura when she eats poisoned food at dinner. Makes you wonder why Byakuya is so obsessed with protecting him.

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* TheScrappy: Shinji. He doesn't have too many appearances due to Byakuya locking him out of the loop of the family's secrets, but those times he shows up, he establishes himself as a spoiled brat, mocking his father's alcoholism and laughing at Sakura when she eats poisoned food at dinner. Makes you wonder why Byakuya is wants to protect the little shit so obsessed with protecting him.much.
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** When Sakura finds Byakuya's diary, she realizes how much of a crappy life he had. The only positive thing? [[PapaWolf Watching his son grow up]].

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** When Sakura finds Byakuya's diary, she realizes how much of a crappy life he had. The only positive thing? thing written on it? [[PapaWolf Watching his son grow up]].

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* {{Adorkable}}: Kariya has his moments, as an innocent kid or whenever Aoi is around.



* TearJerker: Has its own page, for how depressing the series is.
* {{Wangst}}: Byakuya, who never stops whining about how unfair his life is, as he lets Zouken screw over people because he's too scared and apathetic to do anything.

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* TearJerker: Has its own page, SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
** 6-year old Byakuya consoling his baby brother after his night in the worm pit and continuing to do so
for years. Too bad it doesn't last.
** Kariya meeting Aoi for the first time as children.
** Despite his selfish desire for Kariya to stay in the Matou house forever, even Byakuya doesn't want Aoi to suffer to the worms, saying she's too good for that.
** Kariya getting his first camera and taking his first photo together with Aoi on spring.
** After watching his wife eaten by the worms due to giving birth to a defective son, Byakuya spirals deep into depression and wants to die, wanting to get away from Zouken and all. The only reason he does not go through with it? Because Shinji will be left alone.
** When Sakura finds Byakuya's diary, she realizes
how depressing much of a crappy life he had. The only positive thing? [[PapaWolf Watching his son grow up]].
** Despite all
the series is.
suffering the Matous went through ([[AssholeVictim some deserved]] and some not) at least Sakura gets a happy ending together with Shirou.
** Sakura finally understanding why Kariya sacrificed himself for her back in ''Anime/FateZero''.
* NightmareFuel: The worm pit and the crest worms. Such as when they rape a 3-year old Kariya (with Byakuya bitterly thinking how he's just a baby).
** The Matou brothers' mother being eaten alive in the first chapter. And Zouken forcing a toddler Byakuya to watch.
** Chapter 8, a detailed description of Sakura's first days with the Matous and how she became an emotionless little girl.
* {{Wangst}}: Byakuya, who never stops whining about how unfair his life is, as he lets Zouken screw over people because he's too scared and apathetic to do anything.anything.
* TheScrappy: Shinji. He doesn't have too many appearances due to Byakuya locking him out of the loop of the family's secrets, but those times he shows up, he establishes himself as a spoiled brat, mocking his father's alcoholism and laughing at Sakura when she eats poisoned food at dinner. Makes you wonder why Byakuya is so obsessed with protecting him.
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* TearJerker:
** When Zouken throws Byakuya's mother to the worm pit, forcing the young boy to watch her mother being assaulted, raped and eaten alive by the worms. Even worse as this happened months after Kariya was born.
** The situation that Kariya is in — after being chosen by Zouken as the new Matou heir, he trains him in the worm pit every night, where the poor kid is raped by the worms. Byakuya can't do anything but acclimating him to the worms and wash him after the training is done for the day.
*** Just to twist the knife even further, the description that [[JustAKid Byakuya has trouble carrying Kariya from the basement to the bathroom...]]
** Kariya telling his brother that he likes Aoi's long hair, making Byakuya realize that Kariya has never interacted with another female in his life, and he was too young to remember their mother.
** Just the way Kariya cries for Aoi when he's raped by the worms. To make things worse, he thinks of himself as unworthy of Aoi due to have been repeatedly violated through his life. This is part of why he decides to allow her to be happy with Tokiomi instead.
** Kariya leaving the Matou household the day after Aoi and Tokiomi's engagement party.
** Byakuya breaking down at the thought of Zouken throwing him to the worm pit now that Kariya is gone. Especially with the reveal he's still traumatized by his mother's death.
** Yuri being thrown to the worm pit after [[MuggleBornOfMages Shinji is revealed to be incapable of magecraft]]. Not to mention, Byakuya's apathetic reaction to it (compared to his mother's death), showing that he's starting to break at the pressure of how dysfunctional the Matous are. And the next chapter reveals he started drinking and is starting to blame Kariya for all the misery in his life....
** Byakuya is horrified when he finds out that Aoi's daughter, Sakura, was adopted by Zouken. When he tries to oppose to it, Zouken forces him to choose: leave Sakura at his mercy or else Shinji will be feed to the crest worms. [[ForegoneConclusion Byakuya chooses his son over Sakura.]]
*** And the worst part of it all for Byakuya? All was this was started by his desire to protect his son from Zouken and for him to live a life away from magecraft. What he hadn't counted on was that Shinji will become obsessed with becoming a magus in the future. Not to mention this happens in the ''Heaven's Feel'' timeline, where Shinji will be killed by Dark Sakura in the future. [[AllForNothing Making Byakuya's actions all for nothing]]. Talk about [[ShootTheShaggyDog shooting the shaggy dog]].
** Sakura crying for her parents and Rin in her first day at the worm pit.
** Even if you think he deserves it for his cowardice and his hand in Sakura's abuse, [[AssholeVictim Byakuya's death in the end]]. The night before he dies he has a nightmare with his mother, Kariya, Aoi and Yuri silently judging him for his cowardice. It concludes with him being thrown in the worm pit and eaten alive. Even though he was scared of the worms for years, he's been past the DespairEventHorizon to the point he's not afraid anymore, he welcomes it.
** Another kicker? Byakuya was left pondering about his mother's last words for years, wondering why she called out to her children in her last moment even though the worms were eating her alive. In his last moments he laments leaving Shinji (and Sakura) in the dysfunctional Matou family and muses about how he finally understands his mother...

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* TearJerker:
** When Zouken throws Byakuya's mother to
TearJerker: Has its own page, for how depressing the worm pit, forcing the young boy to watch her mother being assaulted, raped and eaten alive by the worms. Even worse as this happened months after Kariya was born.
** The situation that Kariya is in — after being chosen by Zouken as the new Matou heir, he trains him in the worm pit every night, where the poor kid is raped by the worms. Byakuya can't do anything but acclimating him to the worms and wash him after the training is done for the day.
*** Just to twist the knife even further, the description that [[JustAKid Byakuya has trouble carrying Kariya from the basement to the bathroom...]]
** Kariya telling his brother that he likes Aoi's long hair, making Byakuya realize that Kariya has never interacted with another female in his life, and he was too young to remember their mother.
** Just the way Kariya cries for Aoi when he's raped by the worms. To make things worse, he thinks of himself as unworthy of Aoi due to have been repeatedly violated through his life. This is part of why he decides to allow her to be happy with Tokiomi instead.
** Kariya leaving the Matou household the day after Aoi and Tokiomi's engagement party.
** Byakuya breaking down at the thought of Zouken throwing him to the worm pit now that Kariya is gone. Especially with the reveal he's still traumatized by his mother's death.
** Yuri being thrown to the worm pit after [[MuggleBornOfMages Shinji is revealed to be incapable of magecraft]]. Not to mention, Byakuya's apathetic reaction to it (compared to his mother's death), showing that he's starting to break at the pressure of how dysfunctional the Matous are. And the next chapter reveals he started drinking and is starting to blame Kariya for all the misery in his life....
** Byakuya is horrified when he finds out that Aoi's daughter, Sakura, was adopted by Zouken. When he tries to oppose to it, Zouken forces him to choose: leave Sakura at his mercy or else Shinji will be feed to the crest worms. [[ForegoneConclusion Byakuya chooses his son over Sakura.]]
*** And the worst part of it all for Byakuya? All was this was started by his desire to protect his son from Zouken and for him to live a life away from magecraft. What he hadn't counted on was that Shinji will become obsessed with becoming a magus in the future. Not to mention this happens in the ''Heaven's Feel'' timeline, where Shinji will be killed by Dark Sakura in the future. [[AllForNothing Making Byakuya's actions all for nothing]]. Talk about [[ShootTheShaggyDog shooting the shaggy dog]].
** Sakura crying for her parents and Rin in her first day at the worm pit.
** Even if you think he deserves it for his cowardice and his hand in Sakura's abuse, [[AssholeVictim Byakuya's death in the end]]. The night before he dies he has a nightmare with his mother, Kariya, Aoi and Yuri silently judging him for his cowardice. It concludes with him being thrown in the worm pit and eaten alive. Even though he was scared of the worms for years, he's been past the DespairEventHorizon to the point he's not afraid anymore, he welcomes it.
** Another kicker? Byakuya was left pondering about his mother's last words for years, wondering why she called out to her children in her last moment even though the worms were eating her alive. In his last moments he laments leaving Shinji (and Sakura) in the dysfunctional Matou family and muses about how he finally understands his mother...
series is.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The series is relentlessly grim, with nothing ever going well for anybody.



** Another kicker? Byakuya was left pondering about his mother's last words for years, wondering why she called out to her children in her last moment even though the worms were eating her alive. In his last moments he laments leaving Shinji (and Sakura) in the dysfunctional Matou family and muses about how he finally understands his mother...

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** Another kicker? Byakuya was left pondering about his mother's last words for years, wondering why she called out to her children in her last moment even though the worms were eating her alive. In his last moments he laments leaving Shinji (and Sakura) in the dysfunctional Matou family and muses about how he finally understands his mother...mother...
* {{Wangst}}: Byakuya, who never stops whining about how unfair his life is, as he lets Zouken screw over people because he's too scared and apathetic to do anything.

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*** Just to twist the knife even further, the description that Byakuya has trouble carrying Kariya from the basement to the bathroom...

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*** Just to twist the knife even further, the description that [[JustAKid Byakuya has trouble carrying Kariya from the basement to the bathroom...]]



*** And the worst part of it all for Byakuya? All was this was started by his desire to protect his son from Zouken and for him to live a life away from magecraft. What he hadn't counted on was that Shinji will become obsessed with becoming a magus in the future. Not to mention this happens in the ''Heaven's Feel'' timeline, where Shinji was killed by Dark Sakura. [[AllForNothing All of that was for nothing]]. Talk about [[ShootTheShaggyDog shooting the shaggy dog]].
** Sakura crying for her parents and Rin in her first day at the worm pit.

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*** And the worst part of it all for Byakuya? All was this was started by his desire to protect his son from Zouken and for him to live a life away from magecraft. What he hadn't counted on was that Shinji will become obsessed with becoming a magus in the future. Not to mention this happens in the ''Heaven's Feel'' timeline, where Shinji was will be killed by Dark Sakura. Sakura in the future. [[AllForNothing All of that was Making Byakuya's actions all for nothing]]. Talk about [[ShootTheShaggyDog shooting the shaggy dog]].
** Sakura crying for her parents and Rin in her first day at the worm pit.
** Even if you think he deserves it for his cowardice and his hand in Sakura's abuse, [[AssholeVictim Byakuya's death in the end]]. The night before he dies he has a nightmare with his mother, Kariya, Aoi and Yuri silently judging him for his cowardice. It concludes with him being thrown in the worm pit and eaten alive. Even though he was scared of the worms for years, he's been past the DespairEventHorizon to the point he's not afraid anymore, he welcomes it.
** Another kicker? Byakuya was left pondering about his mother's last words for years, wondering why she called out to her children in her last moment even though the worms were eating her alive. In his last moments he laments leaving Shinji (and Sakura) in the dysfunctional Matou family and muses about how he finally understands his mother...
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** Kariya leaving the Matou household the day after Aoi and Tokiomi's engagement party.

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** Kariya leaving the Matou household the day after Aoi and Tokiomi's engagement party.party.
** Byakuya breaking down at the thought of Zouken throwing him to the worm pit now that Kariya is gone. Especially with the reveal he's still traumatized by his mother's death.
** Yuri being thrown to the worm pit after [[MuggleBornOfMages Shinji is revealed to be incapable of magecraft]]. Not to mention, Byakuya's apathetic reaction to it (compared to his mother's death), showing that he's starting to break at the pressure of how dysfunctional the Matous are. And the next chapter reveals he started drinking and is starting to blame Kariya for all the misery in his life....
** Byakuya is horrified when he finds out that Aoi's daughter, Sakura, was adopted by Zouken. When he tries to oppose to it, Zouken forces him to choose: leave Sakura at his mercy or else Shinji will be feed to the crest worms. [[ForegoneConclusion Byakuya chooses his son over Sakura.]]
*** And the worst part of it all for Byakuya? All was this was started by his desire to protect his son from Zouken and for him to live a life away from magecraft. What he hadn't counted on was that Shinji will become obsessed with becoming a magus in the future. Not to mention this happens in the ''Heaven's Feel'' timeline, where Shinji was killed by Dark Sakura. [[AllForNothing All of that was for nothing]]. Talk about [[ShootTheShaggyDog shooting the shaggy dog]].
** Sakura crying for her parents and Rin in her first day at the worm pit.
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* TearJerker:
** When Zouken throws Byakuya's mother to the worm pit, forcing the young boy to watch her mother being assaulted, raped and eaten alive by the worms. Even worse as this happened months after Kariya was born.
** The situation that Kariya is in — after being chosen by Zouken as the new Matou heir, he trains him in the worm pit every night, where the poor kid is raped by the worms. Byakuya can't do anything but acclimating him to the worms and wash him after the training is done for the day.
*** Just to twist the knife even further, the description that Byakuya has trouble carrying Kariya from the basement to the bathroom...
** Kariya telling his brother that he likes Aoi's long hair, making Byakuya realize that Kariya has never interacted with another female in his life, and he was too young to remember their mother.
** Just the way Kariya cries for Aoi when he's raped by the worms. To make things worse, he thinks of himself as unworthy of Aoi due to have been repeatedly violated through his life. This is part of why he decides to allow her to be happy with Tokiomi instead.
** Kariya leaving the Matou household the day after Aoi and Tokiomi's engagement party.

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