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* {{Woolsyism}}: The dub having Erika's employees ban Ash from the Gym seemingly without her knowledge makes more sense than doing it herself, given that arbitrarily refusing a challenge could be considered a breach of contract for a Gym Leader.
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* {{Woolsyism}}: {{Woolseyism}}: The dub having Erika's employees ban Ash from the Gym seemingly without her knowledge makes more sense than doing it herself, given that arbitrarily refusing a challenge could be considered a breach of contract for a Gym Leader.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfume. The fact that none of them were called out on it or forced to apologize just adds more fuel to the flame.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfume. The fact that none of them were called out on it or forced to apologize just adds more fuel to the flame.flame.
* {{Woolsyism}}: The dub having Erika's employees ban Ash from the Gym seemingly without her knowledge makes more sense than doing it herself, given that arbitrarily refusing a challenge could be considered a breach of contract for a Gym Leader.
* {{Woolsyism}}: The dub having Erika's employees ban Ash from the Gym seemingly without her knowledge makes more sense than doing it herself, given that arbitrarily refusing a challenge could be considered a breach of contract for a Gym Leader.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfume. The fact that none of them were called out on it or forced to apologize just adds more fuel to the flame. Perhaps Team Rocket were right to attempt to burn down the Celadon Gym.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfume. The fact that none of them were called out on it or forced to apologize just adds more fuel to the flame. Perhaps Team Rocket were right to attempt to burn down the Celadon Gym.
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Scrappy only allows individuals not groups (unless small enough each member can be judged individually which isn't the case here).
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* TheScrappy: Erika's assistants are hated by a lot of viewers for how petty and bitchy they are towards Ash. It's one thing to kick someone out of your store for being mouthy and insulting the products that you've worked hard on, but it's another to ban him from a completely unrelated facility and smugly taunt him on top of that. The fact that they're never called out for it or forced to apologize doesn't help.
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* TheScrappy: Erika's assistants are hated by a lot of viewers for how petty and rude they are towards Ash. It's one thing to kick someone out of your store for being a mouthy asshole and insulting the products that you've worked hard on, but it's another to ban him from a completely unrelated facility and smugly taunt him on top of that. The fact that they're never called out for it or forced to apologize doesn't help.
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* TheScrappy: Erika's assistants are hated by a lot of viewers for how petty and rude bitchy they are towards Ash. It's one thing to kick someone out of your store for being a mouthy asshole and insulting the products that you've worked hard on, but it's another to ban him from a completely unrelated facility and smugly taunt him on top of that. The fact that they're never called out for it or forced to apologize doesn't help.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfume
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfumeperfume. The fact that none of them were called out on it or forced to apologize just adds more fuel to the flame. Perhaps Team Rocket were right to attempt to burn down the Celadon Gym.
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We feel more bad for Ash than everyone else.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ash considers using his freshly-caught Primeape against Erika, only to reconsider when he remembers just how violent he is. Considering that he'd be giving him away a few episodes later, one would think the writers would try to make the most of his limited screentime and give him at least one good showing in a Gym battle.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ash considers using his freshly-caught Primeape against Erika, only to reconsider when he remembers just how violent he is. Considering that he'd be giving him away a few episodes later, one would think the writers would try to make the most of his limited screentime and give him at least one good showing in a Gym battle.battle.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ash. While it was wrong for Ash to insult the city's perfume, everyone else, including his companions, went way too far in shaming him for it by banning him from ever entering the Celadon Gym and mocking him over it. As a result, many can't help but feel sorry for him.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfume
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ash. While it was wrong for Ash to insult the city's perfume, everyone else, including his companions, went way too far in shaming him for it by banning him from ever entering the Celadon Gym and mocking him over it. As a result, many can't help but feel sorry for him.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: EVERYONE (with the exception of Ash and Team Rocket). We're supposed to side with them because Ash insulted their perfume. However, they all brutally and excessively shaming Ash just because he doesn't like perfume
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In the original Japanese they mention Erika ordering him banned, this was removed from the English dub.
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* CommonKnowledge: It's widely misremembered that Erika banned Ash from the gym because he didn't like her perfume line. In truth, she only banned him from her store; it was her assistants who kept Ash from entering the gym out of petty revenge. Once Ash managed to sneak in, Erika was fine with battling him, even pointing out how Gym Leaders must accept challenges from trainers.
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* CommonKnowledge: It's In an odd case for the English dub that most of the American fandom is familiar with it's widely misremembered that Erika banned Ash from the gym because he didn't like her perfume line. In truth, she only banned him from her store; it was her assistants who kept Ash from entering the gym out of petty revenge. Once Ash managed to sneak in, Erika was fine with battling him, even pointing out how Gym Leaders must accept challenges from trainers. In the Japanese version it actually ''was'' Erika herself who gave the order.
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* TheScrappy: Erika's assistants are hated by a lot of viewers for how petty and rude they are towards Ash. It's one thing to kick someone out of your store for being a mouthy asshole and insulting the products that you've worked hard on, but it's another to ban him from a completely unrelated facility and smugly taunt him on top of that. The fact that they're never called out for it or forced to apologize doesn't help. Unfortunately, Erika tends to get lumped in with them despite not having any say in their decision.
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* TheScrappy: Erika's assistants are hated by a lot of viewers for how petty and rude they are towards Ash. It's one thing to kick someone out of your store for being a mouthy asshole and insulting the products that you've worked hard on, but it's another to ban him from a completely unrelated facility and smugly taunt him on top of that. The fact that they're never called out for it or forced to apologize doesn't help. Unfortunately, Erika tends to get lumped in with them despite not having any say in their decision.
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* AccidentalAesop: It's important to be mindful of what you say around others. Even unintentional comments can cause offense and potentially lead to trouble for yourself and those around you. In the particular instance of this episode, Ash's careless remark about perfume in a perfume store run by the Celadon City gym leader played a significant role in the events that followed.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Many fans (especially the LGBTFanbase) love Ash's female disguise of Ashley, even to the point of thinking her as a separate character and wishing for "her" return.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Many fans (especially the LGBTFanbase) love Ash's female disguise of Ashley, even to the point of thinking her as a separate character and wishing for "her" return. It helps that "she" served as an "awakening" for many trans women ''Pokémon'' fans in their childhoods.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Many fans love Ash's female disguise of Ashley, even to the point of thinking her as a separate character and wishing for "her" return.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Many fans (especially the LGBTFanbase) love Ash's female disguise of Ashley, even to the point of thinking her as a separate character and wishing for "her" return.
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* BrokenBase: Erika is yet another Gym Leader who gives Ash a badge despite him not beating her in combat. Did him putting his life on the line to save her Gloom from the Gym fire make up for it, [[RunningGag or is it yet another pity badge?]] Not helping his case is that unlike Brock or Misty who he at least had on the ropes, he wasn't able to come up with any kind of strategy to counter Gloom's overpowering stench before Team Rocket interfered.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Many fans love Ash's female disguise of Ashley, even to the point of thinking her as a separate character and wishing for "her" return.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Many fans love Ash's female disguise of Ashley, even to the point of thinking her as a separate character and wishing for "her" return.return.
* TheScrappy: Erika's assistants are hated by a lot of viewers for how petty and rude they are towards Ash. It's one thing to kick someone out of your store for being a mouthy asshole and insulting the products that you've worked hard on, but it's another to ban him from a completely unrelated facility and smugly taunt him on top of that. The fact that they're never called out for it or forced to apologize doesn't help. Unfortunately, Erika tends to get lumped in with them despite not having any say in their decision.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ash considers using his freshly-caught Primeape against Erika, only to reconsider when he remembers just how violent he is. Considering that he'd be giving him away a few episodes later, one would think the writers would try to make the most of his limited screentime and give him at least one good showing in a Gym battle.
* TheScrappy: Erika's assistants are hated by a lot of viewers for how petty and rude they are towards Ash. It's one thing to kick someone out of your store for being a mouthy asshole and insulting the products that you've worked hard on, but it's another to ban him from a completely unrelated facility and smugly taunt him on top of that. The fact that they're never called out for it or forced to apologize doesn't help. Unfortunately, Erika tends to get lumped in with them despite not having any say in their decision.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ash considers using his freshly-caught Primeape against Erika, only to reconsider when he remembers just how violent he is. Considering that he'd be giving him away a few episodes later, one would think the writers would try to make the most of his limited screentime and give him at least one good showing in a Gym battle.
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* CommonKnowledge: It's widely misremembered that Erika banned Ash from the gym because he didn't like her perfume line. In truth, she only banned him from her store; it was her assistants who kept Ash from entering the gym out of petty revenge. Once Ash managed to sneak in, Erika was fine with battling him, even pointing out how Gym Leaders must accept challenges from trainers.
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* BrokenBase: Ash winning his Rainbow Badge, another in the long line of so-called "pity badges" he is thought to have received not through a genuine test of skill as they're meant to be given out for, but for a test of character or his usual accidental heroism.
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* BrokenBase: Ash winning his Rainbow Badge, another in the long line of so-called "pity badges" he is thought to have received not through a genuine test of skill as they're meant to be given out for, but for a test of character or his usual accidental heroism.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Many fans love Ash's female disguise of Ashley, even to the point of thinking her as a separate character and wishing for "her" return.
