History YMMV / Persona4ArenaUltimax

* BrokenBase: "Do you think the [[VideoGame/Persona3 P3MC]] should be a playable character?" That question is something of a FandomBerserkButton that no one can agree on.

* TheScrappy: [[spoiler: Hi-no-Kagutsuchi]], arguably, for being [[spoiler: a [[AnticlimaxBoss really easy]] GenericDoomsdayVillain who's a blatant clone of Nyarlathotep]] at best.

** There is also a break in the fanbase regarding [[spoiler:Kagutsuchi. The main source of the break is not that he is there, it's that according to many he is a complete ripoff of Nyarlathotep instead of being an own character capable of standing on it's own merits. Some though prefer him over Nyarlathotep though, only because it fits better for the theme of Persona 3 and 4.]]

* MartyStu: Yu has been getting this a lot. While accusations have always been present, they became increasingly frequent after this game.

** Kanji hating Ken in the P4 route is this when he ends up becoming a BigBrotherMentor to him in ''VideoGame/PersonaQ'' and has a close relationship with each other.

* BrokenBase: "Do you think the [[{{Persona 3}} P3MC]] should be a playable character?" That question is something of a FandomBerserkButton that no one can agree on.

*** This can be {{Justified}} by the fact that the Shadows that appear in this game are not the cast's ''actual'' Shadows, but are instead murderous replicas designed to further the [[BigBad Big Bad's]] goal by fighting the heroes, and they're identified as "Fakes" rather than "Shadows" in story mode text. Plus, both the Investigation Team and the Shadow Operatives have already dealt with their issues and gone through {{Character Development}} in their [[VideoGame/{{Persona3}} previous]] [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} ordeals,]] so going back to that would probably end up as needless repetition. Some are still dissapointed in the lack of Yu facing his own Shadow in the game continuity ([[AdaptationExpansion he did in the anime]]), since it would have given him a much-needed flaw.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The strength of bonds has always been a theme of the series, but here ThePowerOfFriendship overcoming LonersAreFreaks is unsubtle as all get out.

* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: It's actually ''a real in-game function;'' you can have the AI fight for you in story mode if you want to enjoy the story. It doesn't help that the story itself is quite a BaseBreaker.

** The first line of the chorus to "Time To Make History" (The new battle theme from ''Persona 4 Golden'') being the Baseball terminology "Step on up to the plate" became this when Junpei was unveiled, dressed in a Baseball uniform & wielding a Baseball Bat as his weapon of choice. This was ramped up when "Time To Make History" replaced "Fog" as the Instant-Kill theme.

** The main antagonist, [[spoiler:Kagutsuchi]], get's pretty hard to take seriously when he is revealed to simply be a manifestation of those who want's to be alone and simply wants to destroy the world.

** Adachi in the Persona 3 storyline, who only makes one significant appearence, but that appearence is [[spoiler: single-handedly saves Mitsuru, Akihiko, Aigis and Teddie from a horde of Shadows.]]
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Ken's new design has been well received from some, though he's more or a BaseBreaker than fully rescued.

** The P4 side also takes shots at Ken's attitude.

* ThatOneLevel: The last five fights of the Golden Mode, no matter what difficulty, will be this. Not only will the enemy be etheir your level or higher, but they'll also have some really strong skills and will take forever to kill. If you end up with Minazuki as a final boss, you better be ready to have to go through it again, as his Awakened Special is virtually a OneHitKO due to his ridiculously strong it is, and how it's very hard to see coming.

*** This can be {{Justified}} by the fact that the Shadows that appear in this game are not the cast's ''actual'' Shadows, but are instead murderous replicas designed to further the [[BigBad Big Bad's]] goal by fighting the heroes. Plus, both the Investigation Team and the Shadow Operatives have already dealt with their issues and gone through {{Character Development}} in their [[VideoGame/{{Persona3}} previous]] [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} ordeals,]] so going back to that would probably end up as needless repetition. Some are still dissapointed in the lack of Yu facing his own Shadow in the game continuity ([[AdaptationExpansion he did in the anime]]), since it would have given him a much-needed flaw.

** In Japan, the two Shos are separated by naming the one without a Persona in kanji, and the one with a Persona in katakana. This obviously doesn't work in English, so Atlus instead opted to separate the two by having one operate on a FirstNameBasis (without Persona) and the other on a LastNameBasis (with Persona).

* TierInducedScrappy: Competitively the Shadow versions of the characters are not used as much. Mostly due to their gimmick, which while interesting, requires you to be at 100 SP to fully take advantage of, which is a situation that doesn't happen that often competitively. In addition to that, they use the Persona 4 Arena auto-combos as opposed to the new ones, so their comboing is not as good in some cases as the updated characters. Shadow Chie, Mitsuru and Naoto are exempt from this, due to having a pseudo touch of death for the first two and the Fate counter for an alternate win condition for Shadow Naoto.

* TierInducedScrappy: Competitively the Shadow versions of the characters are not used as much. Mostly due to their gimmick, which while interesting, requires you to be at 100 SP to fully take advantage of, which is a situation that doesn't happen that often competitively. In addition to that, they use the Persona 4 Arena movesets more then the new ones, so their comboing is not as good in some cases as the updated characters. Shadow Chie, Mitsuru and Naoto are exempt from this, due to having a pseudo touch of death for the first two and the Fate counter for an alternate win condition for Shadow Naoto.

** The fact that [[spoiler: Kagutsuchi originally wanted to use Teddie as the base of his vessel, which explains his determination to keep Teddie incapacitated and locked out of the events of ''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'' much better than that game did.]], is only treated as a side-note that is mentioned in passing and then quickly dismissed, when it could have made for an incredibly compelling subplot all on its own.

*** This can be {{Justified}} by the fact that the Shadows that appear in this game are not the cast's ''actual'' Shadows, but are instead murderous replicas designed to further the [[BigBad Big Bad's]] goal by fighting the heroes. Plus, both the Investigation Team and the Shadow Operatives have already dealt with their issues and gone through {{Character Development}} in their [[VideoGame/{{Persona3}} previous]] [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} ordeals,]] so going back to that would probably end up as needless repetition. Some are still dissapointed in the lack of Yu facing his own Shadow in the game continuity ([[AdaptationExpansion he did in the anime]]), since it would haave given him a much-needed flaw.

** The fact that [[spoiler: Kagutsuchi originally wanted to use Teddie as the base of his vessel, which explains his determination to keep Teddie incapacitated and locked out of the events of Persona4Arena much better than that game did.]], is only treated as a side-note that is mentioned in passing and then quickly dismissed, when it could have made for an incredibly compelling subplot all on its own.

** [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/FusionFall This isn't the first time when a]] BigBad [[VideoGame/FusionFall made those evil version of characters just to mess with them]]]]

* HoYay: [[ScrewYourself Minazuki and Sho]]. The two are very dependant on one another, Minazuki is ''very'' protective of Sho, and Sho nearly has a breakdown [[spoiler: when he realizes that Minazuki is gone]]. Seeing as how Minazuki is the only person Sho's ever had care about him since childhood and vice versa, this is unsurprising.

* FanonDiscontinuity: As far as some fans go, this game never happened.

** The fact that the P4 route the the canon route instead of the P3 route has earned some ire since the P3 route is often considered the superior one.

* TierInducedScrappy: Competitively the Shadow versions of the characters are not used as much. Mostly due to their gimmick, which while interesting, requires you to be at 100 SP to fully take advantage of, which is a situation that doesn't happen that often competitively. In addition to that, they use the Persona 4 Arena movesets more then the new ones, so their comboing is not as good in some cases as the updated characters. Shadow Chie and Naoto are exempt from this, due to having a pseudo touch of death and the Fate counter for an alternate win condition, respectively.

* {{Anvilicious}}: ThePowerOfFriendship overcoming LonersAreFreaks is unsubtle as all get out.