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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A justified example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades or behavior... {{Averted|Trope}} however with some of the students, such as Nadine Limon.



* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: [[spoiler: How much people did Daniel Saul let being brutalized, drugged, raped and killed by Hell.Com in order to find and save his son? Not that he could do much, mind you, but it's still jarring.]]
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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Seriously, Simon Saul, was it a good idea to drug yourself before a ''death match''??]]
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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his {{Jerkass}} attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that [[MoralEventHorizon he raped a girl years ago]] made some people [[EightDeadlyWords completely stop caring about him]], to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]
* DracoInLeatherPants: Bone, Chair, Chess, Maxime Lavoie, to name a few.

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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his {{Jerkass}} attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that [[MoralEventHorizon he raped a girl years ago]] ago made some people [[EightDeadlyWords completely stop caring about him]], to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]
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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A {{justified|Trope}} example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades or behavior... {{Averted|Trope}} however with some of the students, such as Nadine Limon.

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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A {{justified|Trope}} justified example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades or behavior... {{Averted|Trope}} however with some of the students, such as Nadine Limon.



* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Seriously, Simon Saul, was it a good idea to drug yourself before a ''death match''??]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Seriously, Simon Saul, was it a good idea to drug yourself before a ''death match''??]]match''??]]
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* EnesembleDarkhorse: If a character is a beacon of hope and general human decency in one of the darker Senécal books, they tend to become fan favorites for adding some much-needed levity.

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* EnesembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse: If a character is a beacon of hope and general human decency in one of the darker Senécal books, they tend to become fan favorites for adding some much-needed levity.
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* EnesembleDarkhorse: If a character is a beacon of hope and general human decency in one of the darker Senécal books, they tend to become fan favorites for adding some much-needed levity.
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: [[spoiler: How much people did Daniel Saul let being brutalized, drugged, raped and killed by Hell.Com in order to find and save his son?]]

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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: [[spoiler: How much people did Daniel Saul let being brutalized, drugged, raped and killed by Hell.Com in order to find and save his son?]]son? Not that he could do much, mind you, but it's still jarring.]]
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* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat suffering from {{Wangst}} who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler:he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"]]). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].

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* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat suffering from {{Wangst}} who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler:he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"]]). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment [[OutOfCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].
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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades or behavior... [[AvertedTrope Averted]] however with some of the students, such as Nadine Limon.

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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] {{justified|Trope}} example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades or behavior... [[AvertedTrope Averted]] {{Averted|Trope}} however with some of the students, such as Nadine Limon.



* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: A common criticism of ''Hell.Com'', as it is very close in style (and tone) to other grim, realistic stories written by him previously, such as ''Le vide'' and ''Les sept jours du talion''.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism of ''Hell.Com'', as it is very close in style (and tone) to other grim, realistic stories written by him previously, such as ''Le vide'' and ''Les sept jours du talion''.
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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his {{Jerkass}} attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that [[MoralEventHorizon he ''raped'' a girl years ago]] made some people [[EightDeadlyWords completely stop caring about him]], to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his {{Jerkass}} attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that [[MoralEventHorizon he ''raped'' raped a girl years ago]] made some people [[EightDeadlyWords completely stop caring about him]], to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]
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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his {{Jerkass}} attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that he ''raped'' a girl years ago made some people stop caring about him, to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his {{Jerkass}} attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that [[MoralEventHorizon he ''raped'' a girl years ago ago]] made some people [[EightDeadlyWords completely stop caring about him, him]], to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]



* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat suffering from {{Wangst}} who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler: he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"]]). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].

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* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat suffering from {{Wangst}} who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler: he ([[spoiler:he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"]]). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].
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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his Jerkass attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that he ''raped'' a girl years ago made some people stop caring about him, to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his Jerkass {{Jerkass}} attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that he ''raped'' a girl years ago made some people stop caring about him, to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]



* Narm: Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?

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* Narm: {{Narm}}: Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?



* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a Jerkass SpoiledBrat suffering from Wangst who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler: he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"]]). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].

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* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a Jerkass {{Jerkass}} SpoiledBrat suffering from Wangst {{Wangst}} who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler: he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"]]). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].
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* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a Jerkass SpoiledBrat suffering from Wangst who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler: he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].

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* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a Jerkass SpoiledBrat suffering from Wangst who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler: he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's").else's"]]). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: [[spoiler: How much people did Daniel Saul let being brutalized, drugged, raped and kiled by Hell.Com in order to find and save his son?]]

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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: [[spoiler: How much people did Daniel Saul let being brutalized, drugged, raped and kiled killed by Hell.Com in order to find and save his son?]]
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* [[Narm]]: Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?

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* ''Narm'': Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?

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* ''Narm'': [[Narm]]: Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?
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* Narm: Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?

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* Narm: ''Narm'': Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?
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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his [[Jerkass unlikeable]] and disgusting attitude for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that he ''raped'' a girl years ago made some people stop caring about him, to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his [[Jerkass unlikeable]] and disgusting Jerkass attitude and womanazing habits for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that he ''raped'' a girl years ago made some people stop caring about him, to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Daniel Saul from ''Hell.Com'' is considered this due to his [[Jerkass unlikeable]] and disgusting attitude for the first third of the book. [[spoiler: The fact that he ''raped'' a girl years ago made some people stop caring about him, to the point that some were ''happy'' that he got killed at the end of the book.]]



** It should be noted that Patrick Senécal's other writing style is "supernatural horror with hints of black comedy", which at least offers some levity compared to the thrillers, that feel a lot heavier by comparison.

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** It should be noted that Patrick Senécal's other writing style is "supernatural horror with hints of black comedy", which at least offers some levity compared to the thrillers, that feel a lot heavier by comparison.comparison.
* Narm: Are we supposed to find Simon Saul's tongue clacking ''[[NightmareRetardant scary]]''?
* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: [[spoiler: How much people did Daniel Saul let being brutalized, drugged, raped and kiled by Hell.Com in order to find and save his son?]]
* TheScrappy: Simon Saul from ''Hell.Com'' didn't get much sympathy for being a Jerkass SpoiledBrat suffering from Wangst who ''tortured and mugged someone'' on the streets (to the point that the street gang he was with [[EvenEvilHasStandards found him crazy and rejected him]] for doing that). [[spoiler: Even if Charron had a hand in it, he also killed someone for Hell.Com and had no remorse for doing that.]] He also drags himself in dangerous situations for idiotic reasons ([[spoiler: he went to participate in a ''caged death match in a pitiful state'' just because "he wanted to feel alive by taking someone else's"). It doesn't help that his "CharacterDevelopment" comes at the ''very end'' of the book and feels rushed, [[spoiler: as he feels sorrow for losing his dad due to his stupidity]], [[OutofCharacterMoment making it a 180° of what he was during the rest of the book]].
* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler: Seriously, Simon Saul, was it a good idea to drug yourself before a ''death match''??]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: One of Senécal's less famous books, ''Le passager'', was released in 1995, one year before the book Literature/FightClub. [[spoiler:Both have the same twist, although the version in ''Le Passager'' is nowhere nearly as intricate as the one in Chuck Palahnyuk's story and the film that was made afterwards.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: The ending of Le Vide is this, now that shootings have become more commonplace since 2012.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The ending of Le Vide is this, now that shootings have become more commonplace since 2012.2012.
* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: A common criticism of ''Hell.Com'', as it is very close in style (and tone) to other grim, realistic stories written by him previously, such as ''Le vide'' and ''Les sept jours du talion''.
** It should be noted that Patrick Senécal's other writing style is "supernatural horror with hints of black comedy", which at least offers some levity compared to the thrillers, that feel a lot heavier by comparison.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Bone, Chair, Chess, Maxime Lavoie, to name a few.

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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades, bad behavior...

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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades, bad behavior...grades or behavior... [[AvertedTrope Averted]] however with some of the students, such as Nadine Limon.



* CrossesTheLineTwice: Those moments of BlackComedy involve extreme violence or sex, and usually go so farm it goes into {{Narm}} territory.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Those moments of BlackComedy involve extreme violence or sex, and usually go so farm far, it goes into often reaches {{Narm}} territory.territory.
* HarsherInHindsight: The ending of Le Vide is this, now that shootings have become more commonplace since 2012.
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* CompleteMonster: Surprisingly averted in most cases, as almost all the villains from Patrick Senécal books have redeeming qualities. However, Rupert Archlax Senior has earned that title after all the revelations in Book 4 of the Malphas series.
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* CrazyAwesome: Truk and Malphas, mostly. The former is a 10 feet tall HumanoidAbomination that is nigh-indestructible, [[TheJuggernaut unstoppable]] and outright disgusting... The latter is the crow-demon himself, who grants protection, has a ton of powers, and appears on the school field during the climax of the Malphas series as a giant head and torso made of crows, picks up the BigBad and eats him - moe like ripping him apart - and then disappearing yet again.
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* CrazyAwesome: Truk CreepyAwesome: Chess, Bone and Malphas, mostly. The former is a 10 feet tall HumanoidAbomination that is nigh-indestructible, [[TheJuggernaut unstoppable]] Chair, and outright disgusting... The latter is the crow-demon himself, who grants protection, has a ton many more.
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* AcceptableTargets: College students, if the Malphas series is any indication. The four-part series loves to portray them in a negative light, especially when it comes to intelligence levels. A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example, as the story outright states that the students at Malphas college are the students who couldn't go to any other college due to bad grades, bad behavior...
* CompleteMonster: Surprisingly averted in most cases, as almost all the villains from Patrick Senécal books have redeeming qualities. However, Rupert Archlax Senior has earned that title after all the revelations in Book 4 of the Malphas series.
* CrazyAwesome: Truk and Malphas, mostly. The former is a 10 feet tall HumanoidAbomination that is nigh-indestructible, [[TheJuggernaut unstoppable]] and outright disgusting... The latter is the crow-demon himself, who grants protection, has a ton of powers, and appears on the school field during the climax of the Malphas series as a giant head and torso made of crows, picks up the BigBad and eats him - moe like ripping him apart - and then disappearing yet again.
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