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** Cora could be considered to bridge this and GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave. Consider that she was portrayed by Creator/RoseMcGowan in flashbacks.

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** Cora could be considered to bridge this and GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave.SilverVixen. Consider that she was portrayed by Creator/RoseMcGowan in flashbacks.

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** The ''Frozen'' arc in season 4 demonstrates that Anna has become proficient in swordplay. Four years later, ''Disney/FrozenII'' would give Anna an ice sword crafted by Elsa. ''Frozen II'' also involves an Enchanted Forest of a different kind.


** Wouldn't be the first time Raphael Sbarge has been the self appointed voice of conscience for [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Dark Lords (or Dark Ladies)]] and [[Franchise/MassEffect Shepards]].

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** Wouldn't be the first time Raphael Sbarge has been the self appointed voice of conscience for [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Dark Lords (or Dark Ladies)]] and [[Franchise/MassEffect Shepards]].


** Emma and Hook's relationship is born of love and trust and the best relationship on the show vs. their relationship is based on lies and deceit and the writers are happy to sacrifice anything to keep it going. The focus it gets also deserves mention ass some think it is a RomanticPlotTumor that gets too much attention at the cost of everyone else while others think it is natural the main leads relationship should get more attention.

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** Emma and Hook's relationship is born of love and trust and the best relationship on the show vs. their relationship is based on lies and deceit and the writers are happy to sacrifice anything to keep it going. The focus it gets also deserves mention ass some think it is a RomanticPlotTumor that gets too much attention at the cost of everyone else while others think it is natural the main leads lead's relationship should get more attention.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Just about every 2011 TV preview dismissed the series as just too weird and complex for viewers to get into and most predicted it would be gone by mid-season. Even the show's fans thought it would be lucky to get a second season renewal, let alone last seven years.


* CreatorsPet: The major "villain" characters on the show have all had this accusation thrown at them.

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* CreatorsPet: The major four mainstay "villain" characters on the show have all had this accusation thrown at them.them:



** Zelena is seen as this by part of the fandom too. While the fifth season gave Zelena her own redemption arc and did a decent job in fleshing her character out enough for more fans to feel sympathy for her, there were a number of fans who questioned if she was being forgiven ''too'' easily even by the standards of this show. She has at least expressed remorse for the things she did to Regina, but hasn't actually done the same for all the other people she wronged.[[spoiler: Since Zelena's crimes include: manipulating Neal into trading his life to resurrect Rumple, abducting Snow and David's infant son as soon as he was born to use in a magical ritual, potentially killing him, and murdering Robin's lost love Marian in order to masquerade as her, then having sex with Robin (which can be considered rape by fraud) thus producing their daughter -- it can be jarring for viewers to see how easily the group accepted Zelena's change without much fuss.]]

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** Following her promotion to regular status, Zelena is seen became viewed as this by part of the fandom fans too. While the fifth season gave Zelena her own redemption arc and did a decent job in fleshing her character out enough for more fans to feel sympathy for her, there were a number of fans who questioned if she was being forgiven ''too'' easily even by the standards of this show. She has at least expressed remorse for the things she did to Regina, but hasn't actually done the same for all the other people she wronged.[[spoiler: Since Zelena's crimes include: manipulating Neal into trading his life to resurrect Rumple, abducting Snow and David's infant son as soon as he was born to use in a magical ritual, potentially killing him, and murdering Robin's lost love Marian in order to masquerade as her, then having sex with Robin (which can be considered rape by fraud) thus producing their daughter -- it can be jarring for viewers to see how easily the group accepted Zelena's change without much fuss.]]


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** In term of the many [[BigBad Big Bads]] that the show has had, a plurality of viewers appear to feel like none of them that follow Robbie Kay's Peter Pan in the first half of Season 3 have managed to capture the same level of evil, menace and intrigue. Even the showrunners were made aware of this after he was voted "favorite villain" in a poll to commemorate the 100th episode, and they even brought him back for a brief cameo in the penultimate episode of the whole series.


* AnnoyingLaugh: Gold/Rumplestiltskin's little "tee-hee-hee" thing can get wearing after awhile.

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** When Emma starts showing signs of having magic in season 4, her magic is treated this way. Season 4A sees Elsa, [[PlotParallel who has largely accepted her powers]] at this point, help Emma accept hers as well. In ''Smash the Mirror, Pt.1'':
--->'''Elsa''': They accept us for who we are, and that's important, but it's not enough. It's on us too. You have to love yourself, Emma. The good and the bad. The only way to ever be truly in control of your powers is to embrace them. Because this... this is who you are.
** This trope comes back in season 5A with some UnfortunateImplications. After Emma becomes [[spoiler:the Dark One]] but before the plot gets [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot derailed]], much of the storyline consists of her family and friends trying to "fix" her darkness and get her back to the person they knew her as, while Emma insists that this is who she is and they need to accept her. We'd previously found out via {{Flashback}} that [[spoiler:Snow had a vision that Emma might turn out to be evil before she was born, so she and Charming [[GoodJobBreakingItHero tried to cast all the darkness out of her]] as a precaution]].


** Franchise/PeterPan, also Literature/ThePiedPiperOfHamelin, is a demon who has [[WouldHurtAChild children kidnapped]] and forced to become his eternal servants in Neverland. Having his shadow kill any who try to escape by removing their souls, Pan is also a hedonistic psychopath who tortures and breaks others, solely to amuse himself. Dying along with Neverland's magic, Pan plans to absorb the heart of a child, his own great-grandson, who is the truest believer in magic, making himself all-powerful and immortal, while the innocent child dies in his place. Also the AbusiveParent of Rumpelstiltskin, Pan abandoned his son for power, selfishly neglecting the responsibilities of adulthood. Killing his own supporter to complete a magical curse, Pan [[ItsAllAboutMe cares nothing for anyone but himself]] and tries to murder Rumpelstiltskin's family just to torment his son.

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** Franchise/PeterPan, also Malcolm, aka Franchise/PeterPan and Literature/ThePiedPiperOfHamelin, is a demon who has [[WouldHurtAChild children kidnapped]] and forced to become his eternal servants in Neverland. Having his shadow kill any who try to escape by removing their souls, Pan is also a hedonistic psychopath who tortures and breaks others, solely to amuse himself. Dying along with Neverland's magic, Pan plans to absorb the heart of a child, his own great-grandson, who is the truest believer in magic, making himself all-powerful and immortal, while the innocent child dies in his place. Also the AbusiveParent of Rumpelstiltskin, Pan abandoned his son for power, selfishly neglecting the responsibilities of adulthood. Killing his own supporter to complete a magical curse, Pan [[ItsAllAboutMe cares nothing for anyone but himself]] and tries to murder Rumpelstiltskin's family just to torment his son.


** [[AdaptationalVillainy Stripped of the redeeming qualities of his original counterpart]], Franchise/PeterPan is a demon who has [[WouldHurtAChild children kidnapped]] and forced to become his eternal servants in Neverland. Having his shadow kill any who try to escape by removing their souls, Pan is also a hedonistic psychopath who tortures and breaks others, solely to amuse himself. Dying along with Neverland's magic, Pan plans to absorb the heart of a child, his own great-grandson, who is the truest believer in magic, making himself all-powerful and immortal, while the innocent child dies in his place. Also the AbusiveParent of Rumpelstiltskin, Pan abandoned his son for power, selfishly neglecting the responsibilities of adulthood. Killing his own supporter to complete a magical curse, Pan [[ItsAllAboutMe cares nothing for anyone but himself]] and tries to murder Rumpelstiltskin's family just to torment his son.

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** [[AdaptationalVillainy Stripped of the redeeming qualities of his original counterpart]], Franchise/PeterPan Franchise/PeterPan, also Literature/ThePiedPiperOfHamelin, is a demon who has [[WouldHurtAChild children kidnapped]] and forced to become his eternal servants in Neverland. Having his shadow kill any who try to escape by removing their souls, Pan is also a hedonistic psychopath who tortures and breaks others, solely to amuse himself. Dying along with Neverland's magic, Pan plans to absorb the heart of a child, his own great-grandson, who is the truest believer in magic, making himself all-powerful and immortal, while the innocent child dies in his place. Also the AbusiveParent of Rumpelstiltskin, Pan abandoned his son for power, selfishly neglecting the responsibilities of adulthood. Killing his own supporter to complete a magical curse, Pan [[ItsAllAboutMe cares nothing for anyone but himself]] and tries to murder Rumpelstiltskin's family just to torment his son.

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** Jefferson/ Mad Hatter may have become a psychopath, but that was only after he was betrayed by Regina who chose to bring her father back from Wonderland instead of him (since only two people could leave, thus separating him from his beloved daughter (whom he desperately tried to help).


* GreatBigGayMetaphor:
** When Emma starts showing signs of having magic in season 4, her magic is treated this way. Season 4A sees Elsa, [[PlotParallel who has largely accepted her powers]] at this point, help Emma accept hers as well. In ''Smash the Mirror, Pt.1'':
--->'''Elsa''': They accept us for who we are, and that's important, but it's not enough. It's on us too. You have to love yourself, Emma. The good and the bad. The only way to ever be truly in control of your powers is to embrace them. Because this... this is who you are.
** This trope comes back in season 5A with some UnfortunateImplications. After Emma becomes [[spoiler:the Dark One]] but before the plot gets [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot derailed]], much of the storyline consists of her family and friends trying to "fix" her darkness and get her back to the person they knew her as, while Emma insists that this is who she is and they need to accept her. We'd previously found out via {{Flashback}} that [[spoiler:Snow had a vision that Emma might turn out to be evil before she was born, so she and Charming [[GoodJobBreakingItHero tried to cast all the darkness out of her]] as a precaution]].

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* GreatBigGayMetaphor:
** When Emma starts showing signs of having magic in season 4, her magic is treated this way. Season 4A sees Elsa, [[PlotParallel who has largely accepted her powers]] at this point, help Emma accept hers as well. In ''Smash the Mirror, Pt.1'':
--->'''Elsa''': They accept us for who we are, and that's important, but it's not enough. It's on us too. You have to love yourself, Emma. The good and the bad. The only way to ever be truly in control of your powers is to embrace them. Because this... this is who you are.
** This trope comes back in season 5A with some UnfortunateImplications. After Emma becomes [[spoiler:the Dark One]] but before the plot gets [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot derailed]], much of the storyline consists of her family and friends trying to "fix" her darkness and get her back to the person they knew her as, while Emma insists that this is who she is and they need to accept her. We'd previously found out via {{Flashback}} that [[spoiler:Snow had a vision that Emma might turn out to be evil before she was born, so she and Charming [[GoodJobBreakingItHero tried to cast all the darkness out of her]] as a precaution]].


* InternetBackdraft:
** While [[BrokenBase a good many enjoyed it due to Robert Carlyle's skill at playing evil]], Gold's regression into villainy in Season 4 did '''not''' go over well with the character's fanbase, especially [[spoiler: since it caused his relationship with Belle to crumble.]] By Season 5, it's become apparent that writers have no interest in having Gold make a permanent HeelFaceTurn - which makes all of his attempts of redemption and reconciliations with Belle tedious because it's just a cycle that keeps repeating with neither character either learning or growing from their experiences.
** The announcement that Jennifer Morrison, Ginnifer Goodwin, Josh Dallas, Jared Gilmore, Emilie de Ravin, and Rebecca Mader would not be returning for Season 7, really enraged the fandom who thought that with so many actors leaving the network should just end the show, especially since ABC decided to move it from Sunday to the FridayNightDeathSlot. The fact that Season 7 seems to be a retread of Season 1 with [[spoiler: an adult Henry having lost his memories and his daughter trying to restore them, and Hook, Regina, and Gold being cursed with new identities in a new city, makes it seem that the writers have finally run out of ideas.]] All the above actors did eventually return for their characters' closing episodes and the series finale however.


** Particularly when one considers that [[spoiler: as Frankenstein, his whole motivation was to defeat death, when David Anders' previous well-known role was an ''[[Series/{{Heroes}} immortal]]''.]]

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** Particularly when one considers that [[spoiler: as Frankenstein, his whole motivation was to defeat death, when David Anders' previous well-known role was an ''[[Series/{{Heroes}} immortal]]''. Technically one of his ''[[Series/{{iZombie}} current roles]]'' fits the bill too.]]

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