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* CompleteMonster: Wolf Haley, especially in "Tron Cat" and "AssMilk."


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* HoYay: In "Domo23", Tyler kisses Lucas to prove that he isn't really homophobic.
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** Listening to Goblin after you listen to Lone makes total sense, as the last words from Lone were death threats, and the first from Goblin were Dr. TC telling Tyler he wouldn't kill anybody.

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** '''WOLF GANG GOLF WANG FLOG GNAW'''

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* NightmareFuel: Earl Sweatshirt and Tyler, The Creator have some really dark lyrics

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* NeverLiveItDown: Criticism of Tyler's previous lyrical content has gotten to the point where pretty much every major paper review of Tyler's third album ''Wolf'' doted around the fact that he was still using the word "fag(got)".
* NightmareFuel: Earl Sweatshirt and Tyler, The the Creator have some really dark lyricslyrics.
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** Also from ''Wolf'', the track "Lone", which talks about the death of his grandmother and this awkwardness he faces when he's obliged to see her for the last time. He makes a last conversation with her in her hospital room, not even being able to maintain eye contact from the anxiousness he's feeling. Cue the beautiful string sample. [[spoiler:''"She died that night."'']]
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: I Smell Panties is the earliest release by the group. Talk about first impressions...
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* JerkassWoobie: Tyler, especially on/around the time of ''Wolf,'' when he is the most painfully aware and self-conscious about how he is perceived and the possibility Odd Future becoming a passing trend and fading back into obscurity, still failing to find his father, and his relationships slowly burning out. However, he is still just as loud, obnoxious, and abrasive as ever, and frequently [[DeadBabyComedy violent and misogynist for laughs.]]

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*** On ''Loiter Squad,'' most of the cast employ BadBadActing. In Mike G's case, it's ''[[DullSurprise Bad]] BadBadActing''. However, [[TheStoner his]] [[CloudCuckooLander personality]] just makes it even funnier, [[StraightMan especially since he's such a laid back guy]] in a group of {{Large Ham}}s.
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** In some sadly small portions of the fandom, Jet Age of Tomorrow and The Internet are well loved.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: I Smell Panties is the earliest release by the group. Talk about first impressions...


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* SoBadItsGood: Tyler, Jasper, Taco, Lionel, and Domo are absolute geniuses when it comes to invoking this.
** Left Brain's verse on "Swag Me Out"
** ''Loiter Squad''
** The beat to "Transylvania"
** I Smell Panties
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** Taco has vastly improved as a rapper. Compare his contributions in ''Tina'' and ''Swag Me Out'' to ''Real Bitch'' and ''Trashwang''. The difference is jarring. He could become a respectable rapper.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: ''Wolf'' is shaping up to be this for Tyler, along with the other members GrowingTheBeard on their appearances on it, Earl GrowingTheBeard even more and releasing new material in 2013, and Frank Ocean's explosion of acclaim following ''Channel Orange'', the whole group is seeming to do this over the course of 2013.


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* SignatureScene: Tyler eating the cockroach in the video for "Yonkers" was both his and the whole group's EstablishingCharacterMoment.
* SignatureSong: "Yonkers" for Tyler, "Thinkin' Bout You" for Frank Ocean, "Bitch Suck Dick" for Jasper and Taco, "Oldie" for the group as a whole, and "Earl" for Earl.
* SignatureStyle: Tyler is known to make heavy use of [[StylisticSuck deliberately cheap-sounding synthesizers and clunky beats,]] mixed with frequent, catchy uses of jazz chords and progressions, {{Minimalism}}, and elements of R&B and 90's HipHop in his production. Left Brain's production is often similar but DarkerAndEdgier and without the smooth jazz and R&B influences, but often more experimental.


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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: ''Wolf'' is reaching the same levels of acclaim as Tyler's debut, after the more lukewarm and [[BaseBreaker Base Breaking]] reception of ''Goblin''.

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* ArchivePanic: In four years' time, Odd Future have released more than 20 albums and mixtapes, along with numerous remixes, singles, and incomplete songs; furthermore, there are at least three more records planned for release in 2011 alone. This is not counting unofficial compilations (like ''The Lonny Breaux Collection'', chronicling Frank Ocean's early work) and even [[http://sibatmedia.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/the-odd-future-wolf-gang-bible/ more unreleased material that fans know exist]] [[http://www.oddfuturetalk.com/forums/topic/2938-the-jet-age-of-tomorrow-discography/ but don't actually have.]] One fan has apparently uncovered ''[[http://www.oddfuturetalk.com/forums/topic/2962-your-odd-future-libary/page__st__60 over 500 songs]].''

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* ArchivePanic: In their first four years' time, years, Odd Future have released more than 20 albums and mixtapes, along with numerous remixes, singles, and incomplete songs; furthermore, there are at least three more records planned for release in 2011 alone.songs. This is not counting unofficial compilations (like ''The Lonny Breaux Collection'', chronicling Frank Ocean's early work) and even [[http://sibatmedia.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/the-odd-future-wolf-gang-bible/ more unreleased material that fans know exist]] [[http://www.oddfuturetalk.com/forums/topic/2938-the-jet-age-of-tomorrow-discography/ but don't actually have.]] One fan has apparently uncovered ''[[http://www.oddfuturetalk.com/forums/topic/2962-your-odd-future-libary/page__st__60 over 500 songs]].''



** Domo slapping a woman in the "Rella" video hard enough to change her race from African-American to Asian.



**** The outpouring of good will for Frank in the wake of his coming out. Hip-hop and R&B took a big step forward.

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**** ** The outpouring of good will for Frank in the wake of his coming out. Hip-hop and R&B took a big step forward.



* FridgeBrilliance: Earl's rhyming and wordplay, especially post-Samoa, are often so complex and multi-layered that they seem like WordSaladLyrics at first, but they're not.

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* FridgeBrilliance: FridgeBrilliance / GeniusBonus: Earl's rhyming and wordplay, especially post-Samoa, are often so complex and multi-layered that they seem like WordSaladLyrics at first, but they're not.



** One can also make a case for Tyler on ''Wolf'', especially in the department of production, and similarly to Earl that his subject matter has (albeit far less so than Earl) drifted away from {{Gorn}} and BlackComedyRape.

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** One can also make a case for Tyler on ''Wolf'', especially in the department of production, and and, similarly to Earl that Earl, his subject matter has (albeit far less so than Earl) also drifted away from {{Gorn}} and BlackComedyRape.
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* MindScrew:
** [[spoiler: The ending of Goblin.]]
** Most of the group's music videos, but [[UpToEleven especially "Rella."]]
** Understanding some of Earl's lyrics after his return from Samoa may require notes to fully understand, often bringing boatloads of FridgeBrilliance. [[MomentOfAwesome Just look at all the references, wordplay, and allusions in the track "Chum" alone on Rap Genius.]]



* SerialEscalation: Earl's wordplay gets more and more complicated with every release, to the point where it reaches this level on "Woah" and "Chum."
* ShoutOut: The last verse/bridge of Frank's [[{{Coldplay}} "Strawberry Swing"]] throws some {{Superman}} at us.
-->Spaceships are lifting off, from a dying world
-->Millions are left behind, as the sky burns
-->There wasn't room for you and I...
-->Only you... Goodbye...



* UpToEleven: OFWGKTA's Camp Flog Gnaw tour ended with an OF carnival.
** [[TheRedStapler There was also a carnival in Cocaine...]]



* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Tyler plays himself on his albums as a violent psychopath with serious DaddyIssues, girl problems, loneliness, and depression. In one track he's lamenting his feelings and failures in life, and in the next he's lashing out, partying, killing people, and wreaking havoc. Goblin is at his most morbid and takes place chronologically at the end of the narrative.
* WordSaladLyrics: Earl [[SubvertedTrope subverts]] this.

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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Tyler plays himself on his albums as a violent psychopath with serious DaddyIssues, girl problems, loneliness, and depression. In one track he's lamenting his feelings and failures in life, and in the next he's lashing out, partying, killing people, and wreaking havoc. Goblin is at his most morbid and takes place chronologically at the end of the narrative.
* WordSaladLyrics: Earl [[SubvertedTrope subverts]] this.
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* TheScrappy: Tyler can be this to a lot of people, due to his constantly [[AttentionWhore over-the-top behavior,]] supposed lack-of-progression, self consciousness, and [[TakeThatCritics lashing out at virtually everyone]] [[{{Jerkass}} constantly.]] Domo tends to get this from being perceived as SoOkayItsAverage. Jasper, Taco, and Lucas often get this for being the TagAlongKid and[=/=]or not really contributing anything but StylisticSuck ([[CriticalResearchFailure which is untrue in the case of Lucas]]) The whole group is this [[YourMileageMayVary to some,]] mainly Rap purists, but some of their [[FanDumb rather infamous fans]] are this to nearly everyone, including much of the group themselves (See Mike's quote under MemeticMutation, and Tyler even has a whole track about it on ''Wolf''). Really, only Frank Ocean and Earl Sweatshirt are totally exempt from being this to any given person, [[LoveItOrHateIt hence the divisiveness of the group.]]

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* SoOkayItsAverage: Some of the members' technical skills often get this criticism from some Rap fans. One of the things that makes them TheScrappy to a lot of communities is their perceived [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks lack of progression]], though YourMileageMayVary heavily, as even on this very page, several of their members are listed under GrowingTheBeard trope. Their reputation as such seems to be fading as each member grows, though.

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* BrokenBase: ''Wolf'' is either JumpingTheShark or Tyler's MagnumOpus.
* ContestedSequel: Both ''Goblin'' and ''Wolf'' are this for Tyler, with opinions all over the place.

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* BrokenBase: ''Wolf'' is either JumpingTheShark or Tyler's MagnumOpus.
BaseBreaker: ''The OF Tape Volume 2,'' ''Goblin,'' ''Wolf,'' and sometimes Tyler himself.
* ContestedSequel: Both ''Goblin'' and ''Wolf'' are this for Tyler, with opinions all over the place.place, though they are both still mostly critically well-received.



* FirstInstallmentWins: Bastard, for Tyler.

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** Earl as well is the only other member besides Frank that seems to be universally loved and acclaimed.
* FanDumb: Infamously. Even the group themselves can't stand it.
* FirstInstallmentWins: Bastard, ''Bastard'' often gets this, for Tyler.



* HeCanReallyAct: Tyler's singing on some of the tracks on ''Wolf.'' (the ones that aren't StylisticSuck, anyway)

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*** Also, Hodgy's verse on "Jamba" is further evidence of his own improvement.
** Domo, on ''No Idols,'' his collaboration with producer The Alchemist.
* HeCanReallyAct: HeReallyCanAct: Tyler's singing on some of the tracks on ''Wolf.'' (the ones that aren't StylisticSuck, anyway)



* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: A common complaint from music reviewers about ''The OF Tape Vol. 2'' and some of the members' 2012 mixtapes and EPs.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Plenty of the group's oldest material has gotten lost after being removed from its original MediaShare and LimeLinx download pages. Did you know The Super 3 produced a song for Blak Tha Map called "Square"? No? Good luck finding it...

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* JerkassWoobie: Tyler, especially on/around the time of ''Wolf,'' when he is the most painfully aware and self-conscious about how he is perceived and the possibility Odd Future becoming a passing trend and fading back into obscurity, still failing to find his father, and his relationships slowly burning out. However, he is still just as loud, obnoxious, and abrasive as ever, and frequently [[DeadBabyComedy violent and misogynist for laughs.]]
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Plenty of the group's oldest material has gotten lost after being removed from its original MediaShare [=MediaShare=] and LimeLinx [=LimeLinx=] download pages. Did you know The Super 3 produced a song for Blak Tha Map called "Square"? No? Good luck finding it...it...
* LoveItOrHateIt: With the exception of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Frankie and Earl,]] the group is very polarizing to say the least.



* TheScrappy: The whole group is this [[YourMileageMayVary to some,]] mainly Rap purists, but some of their [[FanDumb rather infamous fans]] are this to nearly everyone, including much of the group themselves (Tyler even has a whole track about it on ''Wolf'').

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* TheScrappy: Tyler can be this to a lot of people, due to his constantly [[AttentionWhore over-the-top behavior,]] supposed lack-of-progression, self consciousness, and [[TakeThatCritics lashing out at virtually everyone]] [[{{Jerkass}} constantly.]] Domo tends to get this from being perceived as SoOkayItsAverage. Jasper, Taco, and Lucas often get this for being the TagAlongKid and[=/=]or not really contributing anything but StylisticSuck ([[CriticalResearchFailure which is untrue in the case of Lucas]]) The whole group is this [[YourMileageMayVary to some,]] mainly Rap purists, but some of their [[FanDumb rather infamous fans]] are this to nearly everyone, including much of the group themselves (Tyler (See Mike's quote under MemeticMutation, and Tyler even has a whole track about it on ''Wolf'').''Wolf''). Really, only Frank Ocean and Earl Sweatshirt are totally exempt from being this to any given person, [[LoveItOrHateIt hence the divisiveness of the group.]]



* {{Squick}}: Besides nearly all of Earl's and Tyler's lyrics before 2012, there's Lucas eating a melting ice cream cone and smashing it everywhere in Earl's "Woah" and Tyler infamously eating a cockroach and vomiting in the video for "Yonkers"



** Tyler's "Answer" from ''Wolf''. Holy shit. A few other tracks from the album as well, which seems to hint at some CreatorBreakdown along with some ArtistDisillusionment.

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* {{Wangst}}: Some have accused Tyler out on this.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Tyler plays himself on his albums as a violent psychopath with serious DaddyIssues, girl problems, loneliness, and depression. In one track he's lamenting his feelings and failures in life, and in the next he's lashing out, partying, killing people, and wreaking havoc. Goblin is at his most morbid and takes place chronologically at the end of the narrative.
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* BrokenBase: ''Wolf'' is either JumpingTheShark or Tyler's MagnumOpus.
* ContestedSequel: Both ''Goblin'' and ''Wolf'' are this for Tyler, with opinions all over the place.



** ''Earl'' has some of the best lines ever. And he's ''sixteen''.
*** ''Goblin'' also received a lot of praise.
**** ''channel ORANGE'' seems to be riding a wave of acclaim, much like its predecessor ''nostalgia, ULTRA'' a year before.

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** ''Earl'' has some of the best lines ever. And he's ''sixteen''.
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that was when he was ''sixteen.'' And ''then'' [[GrowingTheBeard he got back]] [[SerialEscalation from Samoa...]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Earl's rhyming and wordplay, especially post-Samoa, are often so complex and multi-layered that they seem like WordSaladLyrics at first, but they're not.



** One can also make a case for Tyler on ''Wolf'', especially in the department of production, and similarly to Earl that his subject matter has (albeit far less so than Earl) drifted away from {{Gorn}} and BlackComedyRape.



* MindScrew: [[spoiler: The ending of Goblin.]]

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[[spoiler: The ending of Goblin.]]]]
** Most of the group's music videos, but [[UpToEleven especially "Rella."]]
** Understanding some of Earl's lyrics after his return from Samoa may require notes to fully understand, often bringing boatloads of FridgeBrilliance. [[MomentOfAwesome Just look at all the references, wordplay, and allusions in the track "Chum" alone on Rap Genius.]]
* MisaimedFandom: ''Hooo boy...''



* TheScrappy: The whole group is this [[YourMileageMayVary to some,]] mainly Rap purists, but some of their [[FanDumb rather infamous fans]] are this to nearly everyone, including much of the group themselves (Tyler even has a whole track about it on ''Wolf'').
* SerialEscalation: Earl's wordplay gets more and more complicated with every release, to the point where it reaches this level on "Woah" and "Chum."



* SoOkayItsAverage: Some of the members' technical skills often get this criticism from some Rap fans. One of the things that makes them TheScrappy to a lot of communities is their perceived [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks lack of progression]], though YourMileageMayVary heavily, as even on this very page, several of their members are listed under GrowingTheBeard trope. Their reputation as such seems to be fading as each member grows, though.



** "Chum"



** [[TheRedStapler There was also a carnival in Cocaine...]]

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* WordSaladLyrics: Earl [[SubvertedTrope subverts]] this.
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* ShoutOut: The last verse/bridge of Frank's [[{{Coldplay}} "Strawberry Swing"]] throws some {{Superman}} at us.
-->Spaceships are lifting off, from a dying world
-->Millions are left behind, as the sky burns
-->There wasn't room for you and I...
-->Only you... Goodbye...
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* HilariousInHindsight: One line delivered by Tyler on Domo's album ''Rolling Papers'', is "Domo smoke, I heard your album sound like some shit a fake Wiz Khalifa papa wrote." Wiz would release his own album titled ''Rolling Papers'' only months later.
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* FanDumb: Among OF's fan base, two forms of this are frequently observed: "Yonkers Fans" and "Dickriders." Yonkers Fans are fans who jumped on the bandwagon only after OF received mainstream attention for the successful video for Tyler's "Yonkers," and tend to be ignorant of the collective's earlier work (and in some cases, members of OF who aren't Tyler) while overusing OF slogans like "Golf Wang" and "Fuck Steve Harvey." Dickriders are fans who are overly enthusiastic about OF to the point of indignantly defending the group from criticism, disregarding other hip hop acts and hating rappers just because said rappers have stated that they don't like OF or have dissed them in songs (they especially tend to hate Hopsin who briefly poked fun at Tyler in just one song/video, even though Tyler himself has acknowledged Hopsin's talent whilst criticizing the latter's alleged attempt to gain publicity through the diss). More level-headed OF fans tend not to blindly praise all of OF's output or mindlessly reiterate OF CatchPhrases, instead openly criticizing the group in some aspects and not having any qualms listening to rappers who have expressed distaste for Tyler. However, some critical fans cross the line between rationality and HateDumb or ItsPopularNowItSucks.
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: A common complaint from music reviewers about ''The OF Tape Vol. 2'' and some of the member's 2012 mixtapes and EPs.

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** Taco gets ''a lot'' of publicity despite, in his own words, "(not doing) a damn thing."


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* FanDumb: Among OF's fan base, two forms of this are frequently observed: "Yonkers Fans" and "Dickriders." Yonkers Fans are fans who jumped on the bandwagon only after OF received mainstream attention for the successful video for Tyler's "Yonkers," and tend to be ignorant of the collective's earlier work (and in some cases, members of OF who aren't Tyler) while overusing OF slogans like "Golf Wang" and "Fuck Steve Harvey." Dickriders are fans who are overly enthusiastic about OF to the point of indignantly defending the group from criticism, disregarding other hip hop acts and hating rappers just because said rappers have stated that they don't like OF or have dissed them in songs (they especially tend to hate Hopsin who briefly poked fun at Tyler in just one song/video, even though Tyler himself has acknowledged Hopsin's talent whilst criticizing his alleged attempt to gain publicity through the diss). More level-headed OF fans tend not to blindly praise all of OF's output or mindlessly reiterate OF CatchPhrases, instead openly criticizing the group in some aspects and not having any qualms listening to rappers who have expressed distaste for Tyler. However, some critical fans cross the line between rationality and HateDumb or ItsPopularNowItSucks.

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* FanDumb: Among OF's fan base, two forms of this are frequently observed: "Yonkers Fans" and "Dickriders." Yonkers Fans are fans who jumped on the bandwagon only after OF received mainstream attention for the successful video for Tyler's "Yonkers," and tend to be ignorant of the collective's earlier work (and in some cases, members of OF who aren't Tyler) while overusing OF slogans like "Golf Wang" and "Fuck Steve Harvey." Dickriders are fans who are overly enthusiastic about OF to the point of indignantly defending the group from criticism, disregarding other hip hop acts and hating rappers just because said rappers have stated that they don't like OF or have dissed them in songs (they especially tend to hate Hopsin who briefly poked fun at Tyler in just one song/video, even though Tyler himself has acknowledged Hopsin's talent whilst criticizing his the latter's alleged attempt to gain publicity through the diss). More level-headed OF fans tend not to blindly praise all of OF's output or mindlessly reiterate OF CatchPhrases, instead openly criticizing the group in some aspects and not having any qualms listening to rappers who have expressed distaste for Tyler. However, some critical fans cross the line between rationality and HateDumb or ItsPopularNowItSucks.
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* FanDumb: Among OF's fan base, two forms of this are frequently observed: "Yonkers Fans" and "Dickriders." Yonkers Fans are fans who jumped on the bandwagon only after OF received mainstream attention for the successful video for Tyler's "Yonkers," and tend to be ignorant of the collective's earlier work (and in some cases, members of OF who aren't Tyler) while overusing OF slogans like "Golf Wang" and "Fuck Steve Harvey." Dickriders are fans who are overly enthusiastic about OF to the point of indignantly defending the group from criticism, disregarding other hip hop acts and hating rappers just because said rappers have stated that they don't like OF or have dissed them in songs (they especially tend to hate Hopsin who briefly poked fun at Tyler in just one song/video, even though Tyler himself has acknowledged Hopsin's talent despite criticizing his alleged attempt to gain publicity through the diss). More level-headed OF fans are more level-headed, not blindly praising all of OF's output, openly criticizing the group in some aspects and not having any qualms listening to rappers who have expressed distaste for Tyler. However, some critical fans cross the line between rationality and HateDumb or ItsPopularNowItSucks.

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* FanDumb: Among OF's fan base, two forms of this are frequently observed: "Yonkers Fans" and "Dickriders." Yonkers Fans are fans who jumped on the bandwagon only after OF received mainstream attention for the successful video for Tyler's "Yonkers," and tend to be ignorant of the collective's earlier work (and in some cases, members of OF who aren't Tyler) while overusing OF slogans like "Golf Wang" and "Fuck Steve Harvey." Dickriders are fans who are overly enthusiastic about OF to the point of indignantly defending the group from criticism, disregarding other hip hop acts and hating rappers just because said rappers have stated that they don't like OF or have dissed them in songs (they especially tend to hate Hopsin who briefly poked fun at Tyler in just one song/video, even though Tyler himself has acknowledged Hopsin's talent despite whilst criticizing his alleged attempt to gain publicity through the diss). More level-headed OF fans are more level-headed, tend not to blindly praising praise all of OF's output, output or mindlessly reiterate OF CatchPhrases, instead openly criticizing the group in some aspects and not having any qualms listening to rappers who have expressed distaste for Tyler. However, some critical fans cross the line between rationality and HateDumb or ItsPopularNowItSucks.
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* FanDumb: Among OF's fan base, two forms of this are frequently observed: "Yonkers Fans" and "Dickriders." Yonkers Fans are fans who jumped on the bandwagon only after OF received mainstream attention for the successful video for Tyler's "Yonkers," and tend to be ignorant of the collective's earlier work (and in some cases, members of OF who aren't Tyler) while overusing OF slogans like "Golf Wang" and "Fuck Steve Harvey." Dickriders are fans who are overly enthusiastic about OF to the point of indignantly defending the group from criticism, disregarding other hip hop acts and hating rappers just because said rappers have stated that they don't like OF or have dissed them in songs (they especially tend to hate Hopsin who briefly poked fun at Tyler in just one song/video, even though Tyler himself has acknowledged Hopsin's talent despite criticizing his alleged attempt to gain publicity through the diss). More level-headed OF fans are more level-headed, not blindly praising all of OF's output, openly criticizing the group in some aspects and not having any qualms listening to rappers who have expressed distaste for Tyler. However, some critical fans cross the line between rationality and HateDumb or ItsPopularNowItSucks.
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* InternetBackdraft: Let's just say that bringing them up on hip-hop message boards can be a ''very'' risky proposition.
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** "EY YO IT'S JASPER, NOT EVEN A RAPPER"[[hottip:explanation:said site also has a "vanity house" subforum where members can post their own music. It's often not very good.]]

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*** By the time his verse comes up on Oldie, he actually sounds like he tried really hard to make his 9 bar sound as good as he could make it. it shows that if he got really serious about rapping, he could be pretty fuckin' good.

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*** By the time his verse comes up on Oldie, he actually sounds like he tried really hard to make his 9 bar sound as good as he could make it. it shows that if he got really serious about rapping, he could be pretty fuckin' good.good.
** Earl Sweatshirt. He already had hype way back when he was Sly Tendencies solely for the quality of his wordplay, but compare ''Earl'' to the more recent "Chum" and you find an artist who has grown both musically and as a person.
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** "I WISH ODDFUTURETALK FANS WOULD JUST....GIVE IT UP...GIVE UP ON ME...GIVE UP ON LIFE. I'VE HATED THE LOSERS ON OUR FORUMS SINCE DAY 1...BUY MY ALBUM GOLD WHEN IT DROPS" - KING MIKE[[hottip:explanation: Mike G is not fond of semi-official fansite OddFutureTalk.com. The phrase is now used on the site's forums whenever something particularly stupid happens, which is often.]]

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** "I WISH ODDFUTURETALK FANS WOULD JUST....GIVE IT UP...GIVE UP ON ME...GIVE UP ON LIFE. I'VE HATED THE LOSERS ON OUR FORUMS SINCE DAY 1...BUY MY ALBUM GOLD WHEN IT DROPS" - KING MIKE[[hottip:explanation: Mike G is not fond of semi-official fansite OddFutureTalk.com.com and tweeted his displeasure. The phrase is now used on the site's forums whenever something particularly stupid happens, which is often.]]

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