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* CultClassic: ''Nancy Drew'' was never the highest rated series on The CW, but it made it to four seasons due to a dedicated audience that supported the show and stuck with it. Up until its final season, [[https://tvline.com/rankings/ratings-2021-2022-tv-season-best-worst-cw-1234770908/ the series enjoyed the largest DVR bump in ratings of any series on the CW]], which meant the audience was indeed there, albeit not watching live.
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* NarmCharm: At the end of her JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind in the season 2 finale, [[spoiler:Nancy and her traumas embrace while the tree containing the wraith grows a bunch giant glowing pink flowers. Cheesy in the best way.]]
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** Or might she be a SinkOrSwimMentor herself, testing Bess's mettle to see how she responded to the situation?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: What were Diana Marvin's plans for Bess's meeting with Amaya Alston?
** Did she honestly expect such an abrasive and aggressively sexual executive to become a mentor to someone she immediately dismissed as a pretty socialite?
** Did she expect the two to begin a sexual relationship, business be damned?
*** If so, was she hoping for a more formal alliance between their houses, an ArrangedMarriage?
*** Or was it SexForServices, pimping out her estranged daughter's "impure" offspring in exchange for favorable business deals with Amaya, with Bess going along because of her desperation to be a Marvin?
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* GrowingTheBeard: The show has gone through a marked improvement since the first season (and it shows by audience reception, if reviews online can be counted). The season-long mystery aspect has been ditched, there has been a lot more character-focused episodes, and Nancy doesn't rely on help from ghosts to solve mysteries.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The show has gone through a marked improvement since the first season (and it shows by audience reception, if reviews online can be counted). The season-long mystery aspect has been ditched, there has been a lot more character-focused episodes, and Nancy doesn't rely on help from ghosts to solve mysteries.mysteries all the time.

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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: In Judgement of the Perilous Captive, Nancy and Gil [[spoiler: kidnap Everett Hudson, hold him hostage, and try to force a confession out of him for the murder of his wife, Cecilia, which Everett denies. Eventually, Ryan shows up, and beats up Everett for his mother's death. Only that it is later revealed that Everett, as evil as he is, actually is innocent, and had nothing to do with Cecilia's murder. But upon finding this out, Ryan and Nancy justify their actions after-the-fact on the grounds that Everett is a bad person who has still done several bad things. Later on, when Everett tells Detective Tamura that Nancy and Ryan kidnapped and tortured him, Detective Tamura claims that he has no reason to believe him, despite knowing that Everett is telling the truth, the bruises on Everett's face, and evidence of Everett's kidnapping.]]
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Nah, it would still happen. Also is a time period one to... the same time period? Either way, not an example.


* ValuesDissonance: Given the surge in recent years in support for Black Lives Matter, as well as pushback against PoliceBrutality and cover-ups, [[spoiler: Detective Tamura willfully ignoring Everett's claims that he was kidnapped and tortured by Nancy and Ryan, despite knowing it to be true, it being obviously evident with the injuries on Everett's face, and the evidence Tamura collected, falls under this.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: Given the surge in recent years in support for Black Lives Matter, as well as pushback against PoliceBrutality and cover-ups, [[spoiler: Detective Tamura willfully ignoring Everett's claims that he was kidnapped and tortured by Nancy and Ryan, despite knowing it to be true, it being obviously evident with the injuries on Everett's face, and the evidence Tamura collected.]]

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* ValuesDissonance: Given the surge in recent years in support for Black Lives Matter, as well as pushback against PoliceBrutality and cover-ups, [[spoiler: Detective Tamura willfully ignoring Everett's claims that he was kidnapped and tortured by Nancy and Ryan, despite knowing it to be true, it being obviously evident with the injuries on Everett's face, and the evidence Tamura collected.collected, falls under this.]]
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: In Judgement of the Perilous Captive, Nancy and Gil [[spoiler: kidnap Everett Hudson, hold him hostage, and try to force a confession out of him for the murder of his wife, Cecilia, which Everett denies. Eventually, Ryan shows up, and beats up Everett for his mother's death. Only that it is later revealed that Everett, as evil as he is, actually is innocent, and had nothing to do with Cecilia's murder. But upon finding this out, Ryan and Nancy justify their actions after-the-fact on the grounds that Everett is a bad person who has still done several bad things. Later on, when Everett tells Detective Tamura that Nancy and Ryan kidnapped and tortured him, Detective Tamura claims that he has no reason to believe him, despite knowing that Everett is telling the truth, the bruises on Everett's face, and evidence of Everett's kidnapping.]]


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* ValuesDissonance: Given the surge in recent years in support for Black Lives Matter, as well as pushback against PoliceBrutality and cover-ups, [[spoiler: Detective Tamura willfully ignoring Everett's claims that he was kidnapped and tortured by Nancy and Ryan, despite knowing it to be true, it being obviously evident with the injuries on Everett's face, and the evidence Tamura collected.]]
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* SeasonalRot: In contrast to some of the points noted above, the lack of an overall story has also negatively effected the story as several plotlines are juggled without rhyme or reason. And while there is more focus on the characters, there is little in the way of development. The ratings also reflect dropping interest; discounting the series premiere, the first season averaged around 656,000 viewers (high of 813,000, low of 489,000). By contrast the second season has average around 465,000 (high of 628,000, low of 376,000).
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** [[spoiler: Turns out he crossed it even before the aforementioned murders. Almost 20 years before that, [[CainAndAbel he murdered his own brother.]]]]
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** Ned Nickerson who went to prison and lost his chance to go to college due to being falsely mistaken for a murderer.

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** Ned Nickerson who went to prison and lost his chance to go to college due to being falsely mistaken for a murderer.accidentally causing someone's death in self defense.
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* GrowingTheBeard: The show has gone through a marked improvement since the first season (and it shows by audience reception, if ratings and reviews online can be counted). The season-long mystery aspect has been ditched, there has been a lot more character-focused episodes, and Nancy doesn't rely on help from ghosts to solve mysteries.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The show has gone through a marked improvement since the first season (and it shows by audience reception, if ratings and reviews online can be counted). The season-long mystery aspect has been ditched, there has been a lot more character-focused episodes, and Nancy doesn't rely on help from ghosts to solve mysteries.
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* GrowingTheBeard: The show has gone through a marked improvement since the first season (and it shows by audience reception, if ratings and reviews online can be counted). The season-long mystery aspect has been ditched, there has been a lot more character-focused episodes, and Nancy doesn't rely on help from ghosts to solve mysteries.
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** George has an irresponsible and negligent mother and has had to raise three younger sisters all by herself. She was also a social outcast at school. As she acknowledges, this has not made her the most pleasanr person.

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** George has an irresponsible and negligent mother and has had to raise three younger sisters all by herself. She was also a social outcast at school. As she acknowledges, this has not made her the most pleasanr pleasant person.

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** Ryan Hudson also is revealed to be this. Born into the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Hudson family]], his relationship with the girl he loved was broken up by his "parents" and while he was away at boarding school she is supposedly killed. Nineteen years later he is in a marriage he describes as a [[AwfulWeddedLife "business transaction"]], when she dies and he is pinned as one of the initial suspects. His former girlfriend begins to haunt him. He begins to delve into his family's misdeeds [[spoiler: and learns that his wife died by accident, he was the real target. The murderer, his former girlfriend's brother, believed he was responsible for her death. The final episodes of season one really then start to whale on him: he learns that his father was threatening his girlfriend to make her break off the relationship and her initial refusal was met with him spreading rumors about her being a slut. And when she couldn't take it anymore, even after breaking up with him, she committed suicide. The day after learning this, he discovers that she was pregnant and is led to believe that the baby died with her. He soon realizes though that his child survived and is a girl he has been rather nasty to at some points during the show and most of his attempts to try to reconcile are rebuffed.]] While he maybe closer to a JerkassWoobie, one can't deny that the poor guy needs a break.

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** Ryan Hudson also is revealed to be this. Born into the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Hudson family]], his relationship with the girl he loved was broken up by his "parents" and while he was away at boarding school she is supposedly killed. Nineteen years later he is in a marriage he describes as a [[AwfulWeddedLife "business transaction"]], when she dies and he is pinned as one of the initial suspects. His former girlfriend begins to haunt him. He begins to delve into his family's misdeeds [[spoiler: and learns that his wife died by accident, he was the real target. The murderer, his former girlfriend's brother, believed he was responsible for her death. The final episodes of season one really then start to whale on him: he learns that his father was threatening his girlfriend to make her break off the relationship and her initial refusal was met with him spreading rumors about her being a slut. And when she couldn't take it anymore, even after breaking up with him, she committed suicide. The day after learning this, he discovers that she was pregnant and is led to believe that the baby died with her. He soon realizes though that his child survived and is a girl he has been rather nasty to at some points during the show and most of his attempts to try to reconcile are rebuffed.]] While he maybe closer to a JerkassWoobie, one can't deny that the poor guy needs a break.
** Ned Nickerson who went to prison and lost his chance to go to college due to being falsely mistaken for a murderer.
** George has an irresponsible and negligent mother and has had to raise three younger sisters all by herself. She was also a social outcast at school. As she acknowledges, this has not made her the most pleasanr person.
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* JumpScare: ''Everywhere.'' Lucy in particular seems to enjoy using these.
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* JumpScare: ''Everywhere.'' Lucy in particular seems to enjoy using these.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Everett Hudson crossed it years ago, ''twice.''
** First, he covered up [[spoiler: the sinking of the ''Bonny Scot'', which killed 12 men and traumatized the only survivor, a refugee stowaway.]]
** Second, he [[spoiler: was responsible for Lucy’s death. He hated the fact she was dating his son, to the point where he destroyed her life and her family’s life by getting her mother fired from her job and spreading rumors that she was a slut. He also cut off communication between Ryan and Lucy, and ''threatened her unborn child’s life.'']]
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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]] Especially Nancy Drew.

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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]] Especially Nancy Drew.Drew.
** Ryan Hudson also is revealed to be this. Born into the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Hudson family]], his relationship with the girl he loved was broken up by his "parents" and while he was away at boarding school she is supposedly killed. Nineteen years later he is in a marriage he describes as a [[AwfulWeddedLife "business transaction"]], when she dies and he is pinned as one of the initial suspects. His former girlfriend begins to haunt him. He begins to delve into his family's misdeeds [[spoiler: and learns that his wife died by accident, he was the real target. The murderer, his former girlfriend's brother, believed he was responsible for her death. The final episodes of season one really then start to whale on him: he learns that his father was threatening his girlfriend to make her break off the relationship and her initial refusal was met with him spreading rumors about her being a slut. And when she couldn't take it anymore, even after breaking up with him, she committed suicide. The day after learning this, he discovers that she was pregnant and is led to believe that the baby died with her. He soon realizes though that his child survived and is a girl he has been rather nasty to at some points during the show and most of his attempts to try to reconcile are rebuffed.]] While he maybe closer to a JerkassWoobie, one can't deny that the poor guy needs a break.
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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]] Especially Nancy Drew.
* RealLifeRelative: Shiloh Ryn Smith Riley Smith's infant daughter made an two cameos as [[spoiler: Baby Lucy and Baby Nancy to highlight the strong StrongFamilyResemblance between the mother and daughter when they were both infants]]

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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]] Especially Nancy Drew.
* RealLifeRelative: Shiloh Ryn Smith Riley Smith's infant daughter made an two cameos as [[spoiler: Baby Lucy and Baby Nancy to highlight the strong StrongFamilyResemblance between the mother and daughter when they were both infants]]
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ZCE, didn't consult thread.


* CompleteMonster: Both of Ryan's parents.
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* CompleteMonster: Both of Ryan's parents.

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* CompleteMonster: Both of Ryan's parents.parents.
* RealLifeRelative: Shiloh Ryn Smith Riley Smith's infant daughter made an two cameos as [[spoiler: Baby Lucy and Baby Nancy to highlight the strong StrongFamilyResemblance between the mother and daughter when they were both infants]]
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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]] Especially Nancy Drew.

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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]] Especially Nancy Drew.Drew.
* CompleteMonster: Both of Ryan's parents.
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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]]

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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]]]] Especially Nancy Drew.
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* TheWoobie: The entire Drew family [[spoiler:once it's revealed that Lucy wanted the Drews to adopt her in order to prevent the Hudsons from finding out about Nancy's birth.]]

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