History YMMV / MidnightSuns

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and treating them like inexperienced children. This is ignoring the fact that Blade, like Wolverine, is OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and does not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others. Also, the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among the heroes.[[note]]It should be noted Hunter's role among the Midnight Suns is both as a leader and a peacekeeper between them and the Avengers, so blatantly taking one side over the other is ''meant'' to be polarizing due to breaching that expected neutrality.[[/note]]
** On the other side of the spectrum is Nico. While the other Midnight Suns have their problems with the Avengers barging into their sanctum and seeming to take over the whole operation, Nico is the most vocal about hating them and wanting them gone, even complaining about things like the Avengers setting up the Forge to help create new gear. She treats the team's situation more like a hipster band 'selling out' than the desperate "end of the world, we need all the help we can get" scenario it is. She even becomes colder and snappier towards people who are supposed to be her friends when they show any sort of positivity towards the Avengers. As well, the plotline involving Magik's birthday shows she has a similar tendency to Tony to assume she knows best even when people are telling her otherwise. In addition, when Nico does take charge and gets to try her plan to fight Lilith in the "The Not-So-Good Book" mission, [[spoiler:it fails and doesn't accomplish anything.]]

** Most of the Marvel cast generally keeps up a steady stream of Spider-man-esque wise-cracks and jokes throughout the game, even for stoic characters like Blade, constantly mocking the situation and their enemies and never taking a serious situation seriously for even a second. The Hunter has the option to [[LampshadeHanging complain about it to Captain Marvel in their first major conversation]], but it just causes a heavy loss of approval. Eventually, Captain Marvel herself justifies it by pointing out that the entire cast has [[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed already lived through multiple potential apocalypses]] and this attitude is how they cope.
* AnticlimaxBoss: Despite being hyped-up as an incredibly powerful character, [[spoiler:Corrupted Scarlet Witch]] is actually quite easy to defeat when you meet [[spoiler:her]] as a boss. Bonus points for the end-of-fight cutscene, which shows [[spoiler:her]] throwing your characters around and forcing them to flee, while you most likely defeated [[spoiler:her]] with ease just a few seconds before.
** [[spoiler:Cthon himself]]. Built up as an absolutely unstoppable apocalyptic threat, but once summoned just sort of chills out in the stage background just watching the fight, and is defeated over the course of a couple minutes by drawing some symbols on the ground.

** ''Spider-Man''. Is he strong? Listen, bud: in a game where actions are heavily limited and movement even moreso, his level 2 passive makes his first environmental every mission attack cost 0 heroism, and has a chance to refund any heroism spent on environmental attacks. Opportunist is an amazing card, as it grants additional moves that ''anyone'' can use and makes Spidey's next two environmental attacks free. His Legendary Card, Infernal Spider, makes your next three Spider-Man cards free, giving you massive amounts of flexibility. Combine that with the fact that he has several cards that knockback, a card that gives him immunity to damage and draws him more cards, and a way to disable enemies for a turn with bind, and Spider-Man is probably one of the most versatile damage dealers in the game.

** Likewise, Strange and Tony's incessant bickering but secretly respecting each other and being concerned for the other's well being is taken straight out of the SlapSlapKiss playbook.
** The two characters who take this the farthest with each other, by far, are Peter/Spider-Man and Robbie/Ghost Rider. As soon as Peter joins the team the two are inseparable and become best friends practically overnight, which is especially notable since it contrasts with the other Suns' exasperation at new members continually arriving. They're constantly paired up in cutscenes and pre-placed events, found their own club together, and a LOT of their dialogue references each other, even when talking with the Hunter. These conversations include them talking about gaming with each other up to plans to literally move in together. Even more damningly, one of the few times Robbie seems annoyed with Peter is when he talks about how Peter constantly talks to him about MJ, in a tone that definitely sounds more jealous than it should. Even the other characters seem to notice, with both the Hunter and Blade among others at various points sending Robbie to Peter either for advice or to calm down when Robbie gets too hot headed.

** Given the game emphasised dealing with enemies quickly characters with defensive abilities or a GatheringSteam playstyle tend to get passed over:

** Iron Man spends much of the game being condescending towards the Midnight Suns and treating them like inexperienced children. This is ignoring the fact that Blade, like Wolverine, is OlderThanTheyLook due to slowed aging and does not deserve to be treated that way regardless of Tony's feelings towards the others. Also, the Suns specialize in supernatural threats, making them much more knowledgeable about the nature of Lilith than Tony or most of the other Avengers, who are ''guests'' in the Abbey. Nico is far more outspoken than the others in not liking this and the game treats her and Tony as making equally-valid arguments, but it's hard ''not'' to take her side. And while you do get the opportunity to put Tony in his place, this is polarizing among the heroes.[[note]]It should be noted Hunter's role among the Midnight Suns is both as a leader and a peacekeeper between them and the Avengers, so blatantly taking one side over the other is ''meant'' to be polarizing due to breaching that expected neutrality.[[/note]]
** On the other side of the spectrum is Nico. While the other Midnight Suns have their problems with the Avengers barging into their sanctum and seeming to take over the whole operation, Nico is the most vocal about hating them and wanting them gone, even complaining about things like the Avengers setting up the Forge to help create new gear. She treats the team's situation more like a hipster band 'selling out' than the desperate "end of the world, we need all the help we can get" scenario it is. She even becomes colder and snappier towards people who are supposed to be her friends when they show any sort of positivity towards the Avengers. As well, the plotline involving Magik's birthday show she has a similar tendency to Tony to assume she knows best even when people are telling her otherwise. In addition, when Nico does take charge and gets to try her plan to fight Lilith in the "The Not-So-Good Book" mission, [[spoiler:it fails and doesn't accomplish anything.]]

*** Captain Marvel's powers are underwhelming outside of binary form, so you have to waste three actions using the base version of her abilities before they're proper effects and damage potential are unlocked, and Binary Form can be lost if she loses her block.

** [[Cthon himself]]. Built up as an absolutely unstoppable apocalyptic threat, but once summoned just sort of chills out in the stage background just watching the fight, and is defeated over the course of a couple minutes by drawing some symbols on the ground.

* ScrappyMechanic: Status Effects going through forms of damage mitigation or invulnerability. Logically speaking, you'd think that if you were immune to damage (such as through Spider-Man's Spider Sense ability or Magik's Darkchylde) status effects wouldn't apply, yes? Think again! Darkchylde can make you completely immune to damage but if the enemy's attack inflicts a status like Weak, Wounded, or worse, Dazed or Stunned, you'll essentially tank the attack but still get the status. An entirely separate stat called Resilience governs whether or not you resist a status effect... and it caps out at only 60%.

* ThatOneLevel: The Deadpool DLC mission, "They Only Come Out At Night", has to be played with only two characters, neither of which are Hunter, but Blade and Deadpool. The mission furthermore has a time-based mission where you have to eliminate all of the vampires before they can chow down on the nearby civilians. Unless you have been leveling up Deadpool and Blade's abilities to include multiple Chain instances, it is almost impossible to kill enough vampires to save the civilians. If you don't? Well, it's an automatic game over.

* ThatOneLevel: The Deadpool DLC "They Only Come Out At Night" has to be played with only two characters, neither of which are Hunter, but Blade and Deadpool. The mission furthermore has a time-based mission where you have to eliminate all of the vampires before they can chow down on the nearby civilians. Unless you have been leveling up Deadpool and Blade's abilities to include multiple Chain instances, it is almost impossible to kill enough vampires to save the civilians. If you don't? Well, it's an automatic game over.

* HarsherInHindsight: During a hangout, Peter Parker has the potential to mention a friend of his from Jersey City,
clearly intended as a MythologyGag reference to [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Kamala Khan]]. Less than half a year after the game released, [[spoiler:Kamala would be killed off in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderMan2022'']].

clearly intended as a MythologyGag reference to [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Kamala Khan]]. Less than half a year after the game released,[[spoiler:Kamala would be killed off in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderMan2022'']].

clearly intended as a MythologyGag reference to [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Kamala Khan]]. Less than half a year after the game released, [[spoiler:Kamala would be killed off in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderMan2022'']].

** Most of the Marvel cast generally keeps up a steady stream of Spider-man-esque wise-cracks and jokes throughout the game, even for stoic characters like Blade, constantly mocking the situation and their enemies and never taking a serious situation seriously for even a second. The Hunter has the option to [[LampshadeHanging complain about it to Captain Marvel in their first major conversation]], but it just causes a heavy loss of approval.

* ScrappyMechanic: Status Effects going through forms of damage mitigation or invulnerability. Logically speaking, you'd think that if you were immune to damage (such as through Spider-Man's Spider Sense ability or Magik's Darkchylde) status effects wouldn't apply, yes? Think again! Darkchylde can make you completely immune to damage but if the enemy's attack inflicts a status like Weak, Wounded, or worse, Dazed or Ztunned, you'll essentially tank the attack but still get the status. An entirely separate stat called Resilience governs whether or not you resist a status effect... and it caps out at only 60%.

** Scarlet Witch has a pretty severe case of LateCharacterSyndrome; she's intended to be a hybrid of support and damage that can't do either effectively. She can give Resist to other heroes but not herself, most of her damage is AOE and worse than single-target damage (and half of her AOE attacks are centered on ''herself'', in a game where character movement is a limited and precious resource) and her most effective attack, Hex Bolt, forces you to play the game counter to its design if you want to use it effectively; it gains further instances of Chain the more its played, but the game encourages you to finish encounters as quickly as possible so that your heroes don't end up with debilitating injuries. She doesn't have any built-in survivability without card mods either-- while other damage-dealing heroes like Blade, Spider-Man and Iron Man have ways to increase their staying power by sapping health, giving themselves immunity to damage, or giving themselves block, she doesn't get any of that. What's more, her Legendary Card, No More, is a SuicideAttack that consumes all of her health to deal that much damage, and the game ''penalizes you for using revives''. No More was also briefly the subject of a GameBreakingBug with the release of the Venom DLC, which earned Wanda exactly zero points in her favor.

* ScrappyMechanic: Status Effects going through forms of damage mitigation or invulnerability. Logically speaking, you'd think that if you were immune to damage (such as through Spider-Man's Spider Sense ability or Magik's Darkchylde) status effects wouldn't apply, yes? Think again! Darkchylde can make you completely immune to damage but if the enemy's attack inflicts a status like weak or worse, dazed or stunned, you'll essentially tank the attack but still get the status. An entirely separate stat called Resilience governs whether or not you resist a status effect... and it caps out at only 60%.

* HarsherInHindsight: During a hangout, Peter Parker has the potential to mention a friend of his from Jersey City, clearly intended as a MythologyGag reference to [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Kamala Khan]]. Less than half a year after the game released, [[spoiler:Kamala would be killed off in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderMan2022'']].

** Scarlet Witch has a pretty severe case of LateCharacterSyndrome; she's intended to be a hybrid of support and damage that can't do either effectively. She can give Resist to other heroes but not herself, most of her damage is AOE and worse than single-target damage, and her most effective attack, Hex Bolt, forces you to play the game counter to its design if you want to use it effectively; it gains further instances of Chain the more its played, but the game encourages you to finish encounters as quickly as possible so that your heroes don't end up with debilitating injuries. She doesn't have any built-in survivability without card mods either-- while other damage-dealing heroes like Blade, Spider-Man and Iron Man have ways to increase their staying power by sapping health, giving themselves immunity to damage, or giving themselves block, she doesn't get any of that. What's more, her Legendary Card, No More, is a SuicideAttack that consumes all of her health to deal that much damage, and the game ''penalizes you for using revives''. No More was also briefly the subject of a GameBreakingBug with the release of the Venom DLC, which earned Wanda exactly zero points in her favor.

** Scarlet Witch has a pretty severe case of LateCharacterSyndrome; she's intended to be a hybrid of support and damage that can't do either effectively. She can give Resist to other heroes but not herself, most of her damage is AOE and worse than single-target damage, and her most effective attack, Hex Bolt, forces you to play the game counter to its design if you want to use it effectively; it gains further instances of Chain the more its played, but the game encourages you to finish encounters as quickly as possible so that your heroes don't end up with debilitating injuries. She doesn't have any built-in survivability without card mods either-- while other Blade has lifesteal and Spider-Man can give himself resist, she doesn't get any of that. What's more, her Legendary Card, No More, is a SuicideAttack that consumes all of her health to deal that much damage, and the game ''penalizes you for using revives''. No More was also briefly the subject of a GameBreakingBug with the release of the Venom DLC, which earned Wanda exactly zero points in her favor.

* HarsherInHindsight: During a hangout, Peter Parker has the potential to mention a friend of his from Jersey City, clearly intended as a MythologyGag reference to [[ComicBook/MissMarvel Kamala Khan]]. Less than half a year after the game released, [[spoiler:Kamala would be killed off in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderMan2022'']].

* StrangledByTheRedString: Blade's infatuation with Captain Marvel takes up an entire subplot in the form of the Book Club; Captain Marvel is already a BaseBreakingCharacter thanks to her portrayal in the MCU and ComicBook/CivilWarII, and some have voiced the opinion that this plotline is Marvel-mandated CharacterShilling.