Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / LukeCage2016

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and seeing Jessica Jones take increasingly desperate (and morally questionable) actions to take down Killgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.

to:

** After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and seeing Jessica Jones take increasingly desperate (and morally questionable) actions to take down Killgrave, Kilgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.

Added: 285

Changed: 2

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Detective Scarfe, for being a great foil to Misty Knight, as well as being incredibly sassy. [[spoiler: Sadly, he's also a DirtyCop, but that just gives him excuse to Sass Cottonmouth as well.]]

to:

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Detective Scarfe, for being a great foil to Misty Knight, as well as being incredibly sassy. [[spoiler: Sadly, he's also a DirtyCop, but that just gives him excuse to Sass sass Cottonmouth as well.]]


Added DiffLines:

** [[spoiler:Diamondback's plan to frame Luke Cage (concealing his face with a hoodie, then killing a cop by punching him with a super-powered glove) is weird enough, but [[PaperThinDisguise the way he runs away yelling "I'M LUKE CAGE"]] really pushes it over the top into silliness]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Detective Scarfe, for being a great foil to Misty Knight, as well as being incredibly sassy. [[spoiler: Sadly, he's also a DirtyCop, but that just gives him excuse to Sass Cottonmouth as well.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* GeniusBonus: The show invokes numerous black historical figures, often without any explanation.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CounterpartComparison: Cottonmouth and Mariah are basically Wilson Fisk split into two people, the former the crime lord with numerous cops on his payroll and an unnerving HairTriggerTemper, and the latter the public face who does everything to help their city.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


--->'''Cheo Hodari Coker''': Luke, being bulletproof and walking through [redacted for spoilers] was really more influenced by Arnold Schwarzenegger’s invading the police station in Terminator. And we shot it that way. But when you see the images of a bulletproof black man in a hoodie walking forward…it just has like the symbolic meaning that I don’t think we even anticipated.

to:

--->'''Cheo Hodari Coker''': Luke, being bulletproof and walking through [redacted for spoilers] was really more influenced by Arnold Schwarzenegger’s Schwarzenegger's invading the police station in Terminator. And we shot it that way. But when you see the images of a bulletproof black man in a hoodie walking forward…it forward... it just has like the symbolic meaning that I don’t don't think we even anticipated.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Early reviews by sites like [[http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-s-luke-cage-is-the-unapologetically-black-superh-1786315815 Gizmodo]] state the series explicitly draws on issues like gentrification and racism, with Dillard running on a platform of “keep Harlem black".

to:

** Early reviews by sites like [[http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-s-luke-cage-is-the-unapologetically-black-superh-1786315815 Gizmodo]] state the series explicitly draws on issues like gentrification and racism, with Dillard running on a platform of “keep "keep Harlem black".

Added: 560

Changed: 894

Removed: 119

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and seeing Jessica Jones take increasingly desperate (and morally questionable) actions to take down Killgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.

to:

* CatharsisFactor: CatharsisFactor:
**
After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and seeing Jessica Jones take increasingly desperate (and morally questionable) actions to take down Killgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: It was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels to contemporary, highly publicized shootings of African Americans throughout the United States.
-->'''[[WordOfGod Executive Producer]] Cheo Hodari Coker:''' When I think about what's going on in the world right now, the world is ready for a bulletproof black man.

to:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical:
**
It was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels to contemporary, highly publicized shootings of African Americans throughout the United States.
-->'''[[WordOfGod --->'''[[WordOfGod Executive Producer]] Cheo Hodari Coker:''' When I think about what's going on in the world right now, the world is ready for a bulletproof black man.



** Even [[http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/07/luke-cage-netflix-black-lives-matter-comic-con Luke's costume]] of a hoodie and jeans can be interpreted as a reference to [[http://www.npr.org/2012/03/24/149245834/tragedy-gives-the-hoodie-a-whole-new-meaning Trayvon Martin]].
*** Mike Colter confirmed this in an interview, where he says the costume was a choice he made exactly for this reason.

to:

** Even [[http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/07/luke-cage-netflix-black-lives-matter-comic-con Luke's costume]] of a hoodie and jeans can be interpreted as a reference to [[http://www.npr.org/2012/03/24/149245834/tragedy-gives-the-hoodie-a-whole-new-meaning Trayvon Martin]].
***
Martin]]. Mike Colter confirmed this in an interview, where he says the costume was a choice he made exactly for this reason.



-->'''Cheo Hodari Coker''': Luke, being bulletproof and walking through [redacted for spoilers] was really more influenced by Arnold Schwarzenegger’s invading the police station in Terminator. And we shot it that way. But when you see the images of a bulletproof black man in a hoodie walking forward…it just has like the symbolic meaning that I don’t think we even anticipated.

to:

-->'''Cheo --->'''Cheo Hodari Coker''': Luke, being bulletproof and walking through [redacted for spoilers] was really more influenced by Arnold Schwarzenegger’s invading the police station in Terminator. And we shot it that way. But when you see the images of a bulletproof black man in a hoodie walking forward…it just has like the symbolic meaning that I don’t think we even anticipated.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SignatureScene: Luke plowing his way through numerous goons to rob Stokes' personal bank with [[Music/WuTangClan "Bring Da Ruckus"]] blasting on the soundtrack has gotten quite a bit of press for summing up everything great about the show.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** Mike Coulter confirmed this in an interview, where he says the costume was a choice he made exactly for this reason.

to:

*** Mike Coulter Colter confirmed this in an interview, where he says the costume was a choice he made exactly for this reason.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** Mike Coulter confirmed this in an interview, where he says the costume was a choice he made exactly for this reason.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Even [[http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/07/luke-cage-netflix-black-lives-matter-comic-con Luke's costume]] of a hoodie and jeans can be interpreted as a reference to [[http://www.npr.org/2012/03/24/149245834/tragedy-gives-the-hoodie-a-whole-new-meaning Trayvon Martin]].

to:

** Even [[http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/07/luke-cage-netflix-black-lives-matter-comic-con Luke's costume]] of a hoodie and jeans can be interpreted as a reference to [[http://www.npr.org/2012/03/24/149245834/tragedy-gives-the-hoodie-a-whole-new-meaning Trayvon Martin]].Martin]].
** When asked, Cheo Hodari Coker said that he wished we lived in a perfect world where those things could be seen as neutral storytelling elements, but in reality, we're living in a time where stories about racism, gentrification, police corruption, and people in hoodies being shot at are sadly all too relevant.
-->'''Cheo Hodari Coker''': Luke, being bulletproof and walking through [redacted for spoilers] was really more influenced by Arnold Schwarzenegger’s invading the police station in Terminator. And we shot it that way. But when you see the images of a bulletproof black man in a hoodie walking forward…it just has like the symbolic meaning that I don’t think we even anticipated.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.

to:

* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and seeing Jessica Jones take increasingly desperate (and morally questionable) actions to take down Killgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.

Added: 281

Changed: -4

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Early reviews by sites like [[http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-s-luke-cage-is-the-unapologetically-black-superh-1786315815 Gizmodo]] state the series explicitly draws on issues like gentrification and racism, with Dillard running on a platform of “keep Harlem black".

to:

** Early reviews by sites like [[http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-s-luke-cage-is-the-unapologetically-black-superh-1786315815 Gizmodo]] state the series explicitly draws on issues like gentrification and racism, with Dillard running on a platform of “keep Harlem black".black".
** Even [[http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/07/luke-cage-netflix-black-lives-matter-comic-con Luke's costume]] of a hoodie and jeans can be interpreted as a reference to [[http://www.npr.org/2012/03/24/149245834/tragedy-gives-the-hoodie-a-whole-new-meaning Trayvon Martin]].

Added: 144

Changed: 111

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** As mentioned below under WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical, a "bulletproof black man" is a pretty powerful sight in the era of Black Lives Matter.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Though Luke Cage existed as a character for ''44'' years before the 2016 premiere of his Netflix series, it was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels to the contemporary, highly publicized shootings of African Americans throughout the United States.

to:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Though Luke Cage existed as a character for ''44'' years before the 2016 premiere of his Netflix series, it It was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels to the contemporary, highly publicized shootings of African Americans throughout the United States.

Added: 512

Changed: 191

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: In addition to the use of "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" in the trailers, [[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/13/cheo-hodari-coker-compares-luke-cage-wire Adrian Younge and Ali Shaheed Muhammad's score]] has won significant praise.



* ToughActToFollow: Given the universal acclaim of [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} the]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 previous]] Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have ''very'' high expectations going in. Not helped in the least by Daredevil's second season airing earlier in the same year.

to:

* ToughActToFollow: Given the universal acclaim of [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} the]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 previous]] Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have ''very'' high expectations going in. Not helped in the least by Daredevil's second season airing earlier in the same year. Though if [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Cage_(TV_series)#Critical_response the early critical response]] is anything to go by, this series may actually ''surpass'' the previous ones.



-->'''[[WordOfGod Executive Producer]] Cheo Hodari Coker:''' When I think about what's going on in the world right now, the world is ready for a bulletproof black man.

to:

-->'''[[WordOfGod Executive Producer]] Cheo Hodari Coker:''' When I think about what's going on in the world right now, the world is ready for a bulletproof black man.man.
** Early reviews by sites like [[http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-s-luke-cage-is-the-unapologetically-black-superh-1786315815 Gizmodo]] state the series explicitly draws on issues like gentrification and racism, with Dillard running on a platform of “keep Harlem black".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Narm}}: Luke Cage takes out a group of thugs trying to extort money from an elderly couple who own a Chinese restaurant. He seems to inflict an unneeded amount of damage on the restaurant itself by smashing one guy through a window and throwing another into a mirror, shattering it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moral lows indicates low character. Jessica made desperate choices in order to save Hope and stop Kill grave, a distint difference.


* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and Jessica Jones stooping to moral lows to take out Kilgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.

to:

* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and Jessica Jones stooping to moral lows to take out Kilgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Squick}}: The slow motion close-up of a guy's hand shattering when he punches Luke in the face.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.

to:

* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, and Jessica Jones stooping to moral lows to take out Kilgrave, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good man taking out the trash.

to:

* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good (albeit jaded) man taking out the trash.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CatharsisFactor: After two seasons of the incredibly vulnerable and morally ambiguous Daredevil putting up with complex political and corporate schemes, there's a certain satisfaction that comes with a series about an indestructible, unquestionably good man taking out the trash.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Though Luke Cage existed as a character for ''44'' years before the 2016 premiere of his Netflix series, it was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels to the contemporary, highly publicized shootings of African Americans through out the United States.

to:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Though Luke Cage existed as a character for ''44'' years before the 2016 premiere of his Netflix series, it was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels to the contemporary, highly publicized shootings of African Americans through out throughout the United States.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Though Luke Cage existed as a character for ''44'' years before the 2016 premiere of his Netflix series, it was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels the contemporary and highly publicized shootings of African Americans through out the United States.

to:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Though Luke Cage existed as a character for ''44'' years before the 2016 premiere of his Netflix series, it was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels to the contemporary and contemporary, highly publicized shootings of African Americans through out the United States.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


-->'''[[WordOfGod Executive Producer Cheo Hodari Coker]]:''' When I think about what's going on in the world right now, the world is ready for a bulletproof black man.

to:

-->'''[[WordOfGod Executive Producer Producer]] Cheo Hodari Coker]]:''' Coker:''' When I think about what's going on in the world right now, the world is ready for a bulletproof black man.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ToughActToFollow: Given the universal acclaim of [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} the]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 previous]] Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have ''very'' high expectations going in. Not helped in the least by Daredevil's second season airing earlier in the same year.

to:

* ToughActToFollow: Given the universal acclaim of [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} the]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 previous]] Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have ''very'' high expectations going in. Not helped in the least by Daredevil's second season airing earlier in the same year.year.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Though Luke Cage existed as a character for ''44'' years before the 2016 premiere of his Netflix series, it was hard for even the creators to not draw parallels the contemporary and highly publicized shootings of African Americans through out the United States.
-->'''[[WordOfGod Executive Producer Cheo Hodari Coker]]:''' When I think about what's going on in the world right now, the world is ready for a bulletproof black man.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Authors Saving Throw is when a creator changes something, then changes it back because the change was unpopular. Not "Did something the fans like"


* AuthorsSavingThrow: The show's announced cast mostly consists of African-American actors and actresses. Needless to say, but more than a couple of MCU fans are glad that the black characters here won't be relegated to being a BlackBestFriend or a TokenMinority.
** Having multiple women in the main cast, including [[ActionGirl Detective Misty Knight]], a rare female villain in Mariah (who is played by highly respected Emmy winner Alfre Woodard), and Soledad Temple, who as the mother of Claire Temple will most likely result in Claire having more development within the story when she makes an appearance. And all of them are female characters of color, which is always nice given that actresses of color aren't often given main cast roles in a lot of TV shows, including Marvel in some cases.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AuthorsSavingThrow: The show's announced cast mostly consists of African-American actors and actresses. Needless to say, but more than a couple of MCU fans are glad that the black characters here won't be relegated to being a BlackBestFriend or a TokenMinority.
** Having multiple women in the main cast, including [[ActionGirl Detective Misty Knight]], a rare female villain in Mariah (who is played by highly respected Emmy winner Alfre Woodard), and Soledad Temple, who as the mother of Claire Temple will most likely result in Claire having more development within the story when she makes an appearance. And all of them are female characters of color, which is always nice given that actresses of color aren't often given main cast roles in a lot of TV shows, including Marvel in some cases.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ToughActToFollow: Given the universal acclaim of [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} the]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 previous]] Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have ''very'' high expectations going in.

to:

* ToughActToFollow: Given the universal acclaim of [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} the]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 previous]] Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have ''very'' high expectations going in. Not helped in the least by Daredevil's second season airing earlier in the same year.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ToughActToFollow: Given the universal acclaim of [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} the]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 previous]] Marvel Netflix entries, this show will have ''very'' high expectations going in.

Top