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** Cassidy has been very well received for her very friendly demeanor and for being the first friend Sean has made that’s around his age since he made his journey. [[spoiler:The stinger at the end of episode 2 that shows that she’ll be helping out the Diaz brothers in the next episode has only increased fan interest in her.]]
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** Examining Sean's message history with Lyla shows an exchange where they are terrified for the future of their country over whether "he" will win the election.

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** Examining Sean's message history with Lyla shows an exchange where they are terrified for the future of their country over whether "he" [[UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump "he"]] will win the election.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Sean and Lyla have gotten some traction due to their close relationship [[spoiler:and if Sean decides to call Lyla before he throws away his phone, they both are practically on the verge of crying.]]

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* FanPreferredCouple: Sean and Lyla have gotten some traction due to their close relationship despite, or perhaps because of, the lack of romantic undertones [[spoiler:and if Sean decides to call Lyla before he throws away his phone, they both are practically on the verge of crying.]]
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* FanPreferredCouple: Sean and Lyla have gotten some traction due to their close relationship [[spoiler:and if Sean decides to call Lyla before both of them throw away their phone, they are practically on the verge of crying.]]

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* FanPreferredCouple: Sean and Lyla have gotten some traction due to their close relationship [[spoiler:and if Sean decides to call Lyla before both of them throw he throws away their his phone, they both are practically on the verge of crying.]]
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* FanPreferredCouple: Sean and Lyla have gotten some traction due to their close relationship [[spoiler:and if Sean decides to call Lyla before both of them throw away their phone, they are practically on the verge of crying.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: One thing the first two games were criticized for was the heavy use of TotallyRadical dialogue. This was thankfully dialed back here.
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AccidentalAesop: The scene where Mr. Diaz is shot seems to be a straight example of PoliceBrutality, but it's also a good lesson about gun safety and the importance of proper training and temperament in those that wield them. The officer's panic and disregard for basic gun rules escalates a misunderstanding into a fatal accident, which would have been avoided f he'd obeyed proper rules and kept his finger off the trigger and away from people he didn't intend to kill.
{{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that, while the execution is blunt, the protagonists and the social environment lead to [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped,]] and that with the RunForTheBorder plot it would be impossible ''not'' to talk about how current politics would influence that.

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* AccidentalAesop: The scene where Mr. Diaz is shot seems to be a straight example of PoliceBrutality, but it's also a good lesson about gun safety and the importance of proper training and temperament in those that wield them. The officer's panic and disregard for basic gun rules escalates a misunderstanding into a fatal accident, which would have been avoided f if he'd obeyed proper gun safety rules and kept his finger off the trigger and away from people he didn't intend to kill.
* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that, while the execution is blunt, the protagonists and the social environment lead to [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped,]] and that with the RunForTheBorder plot it would be impossible ''not'' to talk about how current politics would influence that.
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* AccidentalAesop: The scene where Mr. Diaz is shot seems to be a straight example of PoliceBrutality, but it's also a good lesson about gun safety and the importance of proper training and temperament in those that wield them. The officer's panic and disregard for basic gun rules escalates a misunderstanding into a fatal accident, which would have been avoided f he'd obeyed proper rules and kept his finger off the trigger and away from people he didn't intend to kill.

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* AccidentalAesop: The scene where Mr. Diaz is shot seems to be a straight example of PoliceBrutality, but it's also a good lesson about gun safety and the importance of proper training and temperament in those that wield them. The officer's panic and disregard for basic gun rules escalates a misunderstanding into a fatal accident, which would have been avoided f he'd obeyed proper rules and kept his finger off the trigger and away from people he didn't intend to kill.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that, while the execution is blunt, the protagonists and the social environment lead to [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped.]]

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* AccidentalAesop: The scene where Mr. Diaz is shot seems to be a straight example of PoliceBrutality, but it's also a good lesson about gun safety and the importance of proper training and temperament in those that wield them. The officer's panic and disregard for basic gun rules escalates a misunderstanding into a fatal accident, which would have been avoided f he'd obeyed proper rules and kept his finger off the trigger and away from people he didn't intend to kill.
{{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that, while the execution is blunt, the protagonists and the social environment lead to [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped.]]dropped,]] and that with the RunForTheBorder plot it would be impossible ''not'' to talk about how current politics would influence that.
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** Examining Sean's message history with Lyla shows an exchange where they are terrified for the future of their country over whether "he" will win the election.
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Given the police brutality he just witnessed, I find it hard to imagine if Sean has any choice at all but to bring Daniel with him to the wild. And "his violent treatment of Sean" is in no way excusable as he's violent regardless of players' input, not to mention he also slapped Daniel to the ground.


* StrawmanHasAPoint: The openly racist, violent, pro-border wall Hank isn't exactly wrong when he says that Sean has endangered his little brother by taking him into the wild. His violent treatment of Sean is also excusable, given that the local news has likely painted the latter as potentially dangerous.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Much of the fandom has interpreted Officer Matthews as a racist cop and a searing criticism of contemporary American law enforcement. The game itself treats him more charitably, making a point out of showing how dire and threatening the situation looked from his perspective ([[NotWhatItLooksLike it wasn't actually either,]] but it certainly ''looked'' pretty bad). The player at one point gets to choose between having Sean blame Matthews or [[ItsAllMyFault blame himself,]] with the implication being that neither choice is entirely justified.

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Your Mileage May Vary is not and was never a trope. Never link to it. Ever. Its use here marks this as a textbook Justifying Edit. Repair Dont Respond.


* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that, while the execution is blunt, the protagonists and the social environment lead to [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that, while the execution is blunt, the protagonists and the social environment lead to [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]dropped.]]



** YourMileageMayVary in terms of how much (if any) of the physical abuse is justified. Some may find apprehending 'dangerous children' justified even to the point of knocking them out. Hank kicking Daniel when he's already tied up? That's crossing the line regardless.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that the protagonists and the social environment give credence to shades of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that that, while the execution is blunt, the protagonists and the social environment give credence lead to shades of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]].

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. Others argue that the protagonists and the social environment give credence to shades of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]


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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. However, some argue that the protagonists and the social environment give credence to shades of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election]]. However, some argue that the protagonists and the social environment give credence to shades of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]
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** YourMileageMayVary in terms of how much (if any) of the physical abuse is justified. Some may find apprehending 'dangerous children' justified even to the point of knocking them out. Hank kicking Daniel when he's already tied up? That's crossing the line regardless.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: The openly racist, violent, pro-border wall Hank isn't exactly wrong when he says that Sean has endangered his little brother by taking him into the wild. His violent treatment of Sean is also excusable, given that the local news has likely painted the latter as potentially dangerous.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The first game was turned down by several publishers who suggested them to change the lead to a male. For this sequel, DONTNOD decided to give the suggestion a try.
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* InternetBackdraft: Fans of the first two games are not very pleased that the sequel has male protagonists this time, accusing the creators of abandoning [[FeministFantasy what made the series special in the first place]], even calling them out for [[{{Irony}} doing what publishers before Square Enix wanted to see in the first game]] when they asked them to publish it.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is held hostage by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. sledgehammer. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is [[spoiler: held hostage captive by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election.election]]. However, some argue that the protagonists and the social environment give credence to shades of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped some anvils needing to be dropped]]
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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern American and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is held hostage by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern American America and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is held hostage by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election.
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* Anvilicious: The game takes several hot topics in modern American and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is held hostage by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election.

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* Anvilicious: {{Anvilicious}}: The game takes several hot topics in modern American and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is held hostage by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election.
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* Anvilicious: The game takes several hot topics in modern American and covers them with the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face. In the first episode alone, Mexican brothers Sean and Daniel face suspicion and discrimination at almost every turn, an incompetent trigger happy cop freaks out and shoots their father dead, and Sean is held hostage by a [[AcceptableTargets bigoted redneck]] spouting racial slurs who makes it very clear which way he voted in the 2016 election.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lyla is popular in the fandom for being an Asian female, for being best friends with Sean without any romantic undertones, and for her playful yet caring attitude to both Sean and Daniel.

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Lyla is popular in the fandom for being an Asian female, for being best friends with Sean without any romantic undertones, and for her playful yet caring attitude to both Sean and Daniel.Daniel.
** Brody quickly became a fan favourite for his odd but lovable nature, and the fact he goes out of his way to help the Diaz brothers without asking for anything in return. [[spoiler: He not only saves them from the racist gas station owner, he gives them money and supplies so they can continue their journey, along with buying them a motel room for the night.]]
* {{Moe}}: Daniel is an adorable nine year old boy who loves video games, animals, and being with his big brother. He's physically cute looking with big dark eyes and fluffy hair, and likes cuddling up to Sean. Daniel is especially sweet when it comes to him looking after his puppy, Mushroom.
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* ToyShip: Fans are already shipping Daniel with Chris, the protagonist of ''VideoGame/TheAwesomeAdventuresOfCaptainSpirit'' as he saves Chris from falling with his powers.

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* ToyShip: Fans are already shipping Daniel with Chris, the protagonist of ''VideoGame/TheAwesomeAdventuresOfCaptainSpirit'' as he saves Chris from falling with his powers.powers.
* WinTheCrowd: After fans had some reservations about there being a kid character having a significant role in the story, especially after the divisive reactions to Chris, the first episode saw a warmer reception to Daniel due to his likable character and relationship with Sean.

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* BrokenBase:
** The fact that ''Life is Strange 2'' will not be focusing on Max, Chloe, or anyone else from ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange''. Some fans were upset at the decision, especially since DONTNOD specifically stated that they had no interest in continuing Max and Chloe's story, while others were excited that the game was going to be focused around an entirely new cast.
** The new main character being male has not gone over well with some fans, who enjoyed the first game because it was so refreshing to be able to play as a female protagonist. Others are also upset because Sean appears to be straight, while Max being bisexual left her open to having a male or female love interest. But a lot of fans are excited to play as a Hispanic teenager, a demographic sorely unrepresented in video games, and aren't bothered about his sexual orientation.

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** The new main character being male has not gone over well with some fans, who enjoyed the first game because it was so refreshing to be able to play as a female protagonist. Others
any entries right now are also upset because Sean appears to be straight, while Max being bisexual left her open to having a male or female love interest. But a lot of fans are excited to play as a Hispanic teenager, a demographic sorely unrepresented in video games, and aren't bothered about his sexual orientation. kneejerk reactions.
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** The fact that ''Life is Strange 2'' will not be focusing on Max, Chloe, or anyone else from ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange''. Some fans were upset at the decision, especially since Don't Nod specially stated that they had no interest in continuing Max and Chloe's story, while others were excited that the game was going to be focused around an entirely new cast.

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** The fact that ''Life is Strange 2'' will not be focusing on Max, Chloe, or anyone else from ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange''. Some fans were upset at the decision, especially since Don't Nod specially DONTNOD specifically stated that they had no interest in continuing Max and Chloe's story, while others were excited that the game was going to be focused around an entirely new cast.
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* BrokenBase:
** The fact that ''Life is Strange 2'' will not be focusing on Max, Chloe, or anyone else from ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange''. Some fans were upset at the decision, especially since Don't Nod specially stated that they had no interest in continuing Max and Chloe's story, while others were excited that the game was going to be focused around an entirely new cast.
** The new main character being male has not gone over well with some fans, who enjoyed the first game because it was so refreshing to be able to play as a female protagonist. Others are also upset because Sean appears to be straight, while Max being bisexual left her open to having a male or female love interest. But a lot of fans are excited to play as a Hispanic teenager, a demographic sorely unrepresented in video games, and aren't bothered about his sexual orientation.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lyla is popular in the fandom for being an Asian female, for being best friends with Sean without any romantic undertones, and for her playful yet caring attitude to both Sean and Daniel.
* ToyShip: Fans are already shipping Daniel with Chris, the protagonist of ''VideoGame/TheAwesomeAdventuresOfCaptainSpirit'' as he saves Chris from falling with his powers.

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